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hondatrx250r
07-29-2009, 08:50 PM
I was just wondering if anybody had any info on honda developing a trx500 to compete with the LT500 back in the 80's. Any if would be great. Thanks!

oldskool83
09-11-2009, 12:55 PM
in this months issue of dirtwheels it said they didnt wanna do it cuz the market went down hill. they tested cr500 motors in them in 1987

lndy650
09-11-2009, 09:29 PM
would have been awesome

300rman
09-13-2009, 12:33 AM
you can build one easily enough........

i think its funny how these high-HP machines stopped selling well back then, and nowadays something like that would sell like hotcakes.

deathman53
09-14-2009, 10:41 PM
didn't honda have a atc500r to be released in 85? It made photo's, manual and owner manual, but none have been seen. The only thing ever heard about it was from Mike Coe and how they modified their atc250r's to mimic the chassis. I think I read it had a shorter swingarm and the front end was +1 forward, also the gas tank and radiator mounts were +1 forward. It went along the same line as the atc480r, atc200r, atc500x and who knows what else honda did and nobody knows about. I think honda was gonna release a atc200r in 85 or 86.

3Razors
09-15-2009, 12:13 AM
Something like that would never come out in todays world because of all the lawsuits in america. We are our own worst enemy

300rman
09-15-2009, 12:36 AM
Something like that would never come out in todays world because of all the lawsuits in america. We are our own worst enemy

uh.....they have those 450 quads......remember the banshee? seriously detuned, easy to get big HP from......

RedRider_AK
09-15-2009, 05:14 AM
uh.....they have those 450 quads......remember the banshee? seriously detuned, easy to get big HP from......

The 450 quads are, to the best of my knowledge, supposed to stay on the track, so any off-track use voids your ability to sue the manufacturer.

The Banshee was released way back in the 80's, so citing it as a counter-example to "these modern times" is sort of incorrect. Also, they stopped making it.

factoryX
09-15-2009, 05:48 AM
wrong, they are still being made in Canada, Mexico, Europe, etc. Even though I hate the geometry of the banshee frame and I think even though it is outdated from the 80's I still think it whoops the 450's on motor design, handling, and most important potential to be something better with little amount of funds being thrown at it. The reason for it not being on the market here in the USA is because liberals/democrats have convinced people that 2 strokes are bad and destroy the environment. There was a website posted that 2 stroke pollute more than cars do on 1 tank of gas than the car driving 400miles. Now the general public have bailed completely off the 2 stroke because the 5 valve motors are some how more powerful when if they had put the money and time in the 2 stroke design It would dominate the market.

RedRider_AK
09-15-2009, 06:16 AM
There was a website posted that 2 stroke pollute more than cars do on 1 tank of gas than the car driving 400miles. Now the general public have bailed completely off the 2 stroke because the 5 valve motors are some how more powerful when if they had put the money and time in the 2 stroke design It would dominate the market.

"1 tank of gas" is a totally factless argument, and so is "car driving 400 miles". Exact models and fuel amounts would be nice.

Also, ever read up on Evinrude/Ski-Doo's E-Tech direct-inject two-strokes? I suggest you do. If they ever made a dirt bike/quad/etc with that tech, you can bet it would whoop up on everything. But I don't see it happening because of the inherent profit the major manufacturers make from the new 4-strokes.

factoryX
09-15-2009, 07:03 AM
yes I have read it, and I know that the site is bs.

factoryX
09-15-2009, 07:05 AM
But I don't see it happening because of the inherent profit the major manufacturers make from the new 4-strokes.

lol top end job for 450 is around $1200 or more.

siderbox
10-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Here's what a TRX500R could look like today.
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http://i39.tinypic.com/dboy21.jpg

redneck08814
10-29-2009, 07:58 PM
idk but imo the rotax powered tiger 500 was the meanest trike back in the day and it was American made yeeehaaaww!!!!

daniel_250r
11-03-2009, 10:48 PM
my coworker has been riding his 05 trx 450 since new and hasnt touched the top end at all maybe just luck?

RideRed250R
11-03-2009, 11:58 PM
just wait... the 450's are ticking time bombs

RedRider_AK
11-04-2009, 04:03 AM
idk but imo the rotax powered tiger 500 was the meanest trike back in the day and it was American made yeeehaaaww!!!!

Ummm what? :wondering

super90
11-15-2009, 12:05 AM
just wait... the 450's are ticking time bombs

Still running the stock cylinder and piston in my 04 yfz... The year that was suppose to grenade all the time. They are not time bombs if you're not half retarded and know how to maintain an engine. Hatch marks from the factory are still in the cylinder too. And 1200 for a top end job? Maybe 500, I can get the cylinder replated, piston and valves all replaced for much less than 1200.

300rman
11-29-2009, 01:17 AM
Still running the stock cylinder and piston in my 04 yfz... The year that was suppose to grenade all the time. They are not time bombs if you're not half retarded and know how to maintain an engine. Hatch marks from the factory are still in the cylinder too. And 1200 for a top end job? Maybe 500, I can get the cylinder replated, piston and valves all replaced for much less than 1200.


well, I JUST had my cr250 cylinder plated, and it was 300 dollars, including shipping to and from and the bigger the cylinder, the more $$.......so wherever your finding a piston kit, gaskets, valves, etc. for another measly 200, let me know so i can buy and re-sell a crate of the stuff.