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atcpunk107
07-29-2003, 05:04 PM
Ihave a 351W i got with a truck i just bought and it needs a complete rebuild.Iwas wondering how much it would ruffly cost and if it would be worth it.The motor is all their.Should i just say to heck with it and get another motor like a 302 or posssibly a 351W.Also how much would a good running Ford V8 cost doesnt matter the size.Oh by the way its all carburated.
Billy Golightly
07-29-2003, 11:06 PM
If you want ANY kind of power...forget the 302 and work on rebuilding the 351w. Even if its a mid-late 70's model with all the smog and emissions crap on it, its still better then a 302...heck I'd almost consider a bicycle better then a 302.
ATC crazy
07-29-2003, 11:15 PM
Heck, drop a built 460 in there :twisted:
KXT
07-30-2003, 12:00 PM
hey be a little different, get a 390 run that or throw a 429 crank in it & it will be a 410. make it interesting! good luck.
atcpunk107
07-30-2003, 03:31 PM
You guys have to consider that I dont have a whole lotta money and I am outting the engine in a lil 84 ranger xlt with a dual rear end and i really dont want to kill myself this is my first vehical.
200x Basket
07-30-2003, 08:57 PM
the most simple thing would be to get a $400 kit from summit and follow the guidlines in any haynes manual.
Honda300ex
08-01-2003, 12:21 AM
I rebuilt my 351w with a rering kit from Northernautoparts.com.. alot cheaper than summit but its bacicly stock replace ments.. but i didnt buy the right size bearing since my crank had been turned down some :rolleyes:
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 12:24 AM
Thanks how much did it cost and was it somewhat easy to put in and hassel free from the company.Any probs with the kit or engine afterwords.
Honda300ex
08-01-2003, 10:55 AM
I have never had any problems with buying from Northern. The kit is $84 for a rering kit for 75-76 (what mine was) Go to www.Northernautoparts.com and get a catlog. It was very easy to put in the rering kit and i dont see why the master would be any hard expect haveing to take the cam out.. But be sure if you buy a rering kit buy a timing chain set and a oil pump becasue i dought you want to tear it apart to change them once they go bad.. The main thing i had a problem with was the vavle guide seals my tool was old and broke.. IT would of been alot better with the right tool.. Good luck.. I have not ran the motor much yet beacuse i orderd stock size bearings for it and the crank has been turned down and i didnt know it.. But for the whole 4mins i drove it it felt pretty heathy.. We are ordering more stuff from norhern soon and i am gonna get bearings and a timing chain set for mine since i had it apart to put a new oil pump in it but the pushrods where cloged :rolleyes: .... We tryed to rebuild it as cheap has we could but i quess you get what you payed for... But the northern kit is a good deal and product. We just didnt buy the other stuff we should of.. OR you could just buy the master kit that comes with every thing..
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:03 AM
Ya I alredy ordered the catolog.I am not sure if i should get the master or rering kit.Iwill talk it over with my uncle thought.Thanks alot.If i get the master you will be saving me lots of money seems how wherever eles I go the master kits are alot more expensive.

P.S. I am not crazy for putting a 351W in a little ford ranger am I.I mean I kno it is tight squeesz but it will do alot of favers during the winter becaus i know the dually rearend will get grip.I know i am crazy already but not for that reason right.
Honda300ex
08-01-2003, 11:05 AM
351w would make that little ranger pretty quick ;)
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:08 AM
The 302 that was in wold make the front end come up on it so i think the 351W might be a bit scary when jumping on the gas.
Honda300ex
08-01-2003, 11:15 AM
Hehe.. sounds like fun.. Make sure to put some headers and maybe a intake and carb on it to get the most power out of it.. ;)
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:43 AM
I am trying o get some shorty headers off an uncle.I am thinking about getting a shaker hoodscoop for it.You wouldnt happen to know a place for that would ya.
Honda300ex
08-01-2003, 11:45 AM
I am not sure where to get a shaker but Usbody.com has some nice looking scoops and cowl induction hoods
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:50 AM
the best thing about the ranger is that they are so easy to get parts for.The parts are a dime a dozen
J.D.
08-01-2003, 09:57 PM
I just don't understand why people say 302's are gutless. My 302 hauls exactly 2,687.5 pounds, and I can hardly notice any engine strain. It hauls even 4,000 pounds before a fair amount of strain comes on. THe rear springs may be about to bust with that weight, but the engine can handle it. (86 F150 Ford 1/2ton)
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:41 PM
I agree Goku.Another thing is that how people say that all 6 cylinders are gutless to but i highly dissagree.The ford inline 300 has the most CI per cylinder in its class and they are awesome motors.
200x Basket
08-01-2003, 11:46 PM
I just don't understand why people say 302's are gutless. My 302 hauls exactly 2,687.5 pounds, and I can hardly notice any engine strain. It hauls even 4,000 pounds before a fair amount of strain comes on. THe rear springs may be about to bust with that weight, but the engine can handle it. (86 F150 Ford 1/2ton)

my 302 ran a 12.00 at 117 mph in the 1/4 mile. that aint gutless :shock:
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:50 PM
What was the 302 in 200x
200x Basket
08-01-2003, 11:56 PM
it was in a 88 mustang
atcpunk107
08-01-2003, 11:58 PM
sweet efi or carb
Billy Golightly
08-02-2003, 12:29 AM
I just don't understand why people say 302's are gutless. My 302 hauls exactly 2,687.5 pounds, and I can hardly notice any engine strain. It hauls even 4,000 pounds before a fair amount of strain comes on. THe rear springs may be about to bust with that weight, but the engine can handle it. (86 F150 Ford 1/2ton)

Drive my 460 for a little bit, or my Dads 7.3L deisel for a while and then hop into a 302 and you'll understand...the friggen thing has gotta downshift when going on an overpass, thats jut retarded. The 89 truck its in only has 115k, its not wore out.
J.D.
08-02-2003, 01:09 AM
I drove a 460 once, in an 88 F350 supercab. It felt weaker than my 302, had less pickup than my 302, I dunno maybe it was a bad motor, it only had 80K miles on it(no odometer turning). If your talking about downshifting over an overpass, it's probably the AOD tranny. They sucks balls, we've blown 3 of them not even working them. They always loose 3rd and OD. POS's....
atcpunk107
08-02-2003, 12:06 PM
Another thing you should understand is what the motors were built for.The 460 was not built to go fast it was built to do work and it is basicly a workhorse.The 302 was originally built for speed and nothing but.It originally came out in the boss 302 for the trans am races.They tried to run it in nascar but they were told to not bring it back.Therefore the 460 may be alot bigger but it was designed for work.Lets put in a way with examples the 302 is a 250r and the 460 is a 250es.
'86X
08-02-2003, 06:05 PM
I have one for sale on eBay right now!! Check it out! 8)
ATC crazy
08-02-2003, 09:30 PM
I agree Goku.Another thing is that how people say that all 6 cylinders are gutless to but i highly dissagree.The ford inline 300 has the most CI per cylinder in its class and they are awesome motors.

You got that right....our Ford Aerostar has the 4.0 V6 in it which has about 240HP. At half throttle she would peel out while leaving an intersection just about every time. And you can hardly tell when its pulling a trailer with 2 tons of mulch on it. Don't believe me.....you'd better.
atcpunk107
08-03-2003, 11:05 AM
That 4.0 is not the 300 thought and yes they are powerful the 300 is a inline 6
Honda300ex
08-03-2003, 11:23 AM
Our yard truck has a 230 6cl in it pretty good motor.. it sat around for 10 years out side, we put it in the truck and it started right up.. :D Thats a ford for you. then that dang buick motor locked up siting for a month....
'86X
08-04-2003, 09:37 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! 240 HP 4.0!!!!! Yeah with a 150 HP nitrous kit! I am a Ford guy but 4.0's are DOGS!
samster143
08-06-2003, 06:15 PM
You might need a hood scoop because the 351 has a higher deck height than a 302
Honda300ex
08-06-2003, 07:56 PM
its not much taller.. I got one in my F-100 it had a 302 in it.. I have a a 6" tall airbreather on it and it was like a 1" from the hood now with the 351w its like 1/2:..
200x Basket
08-06-2003, 08:57 PM
sweet efi or carb EFi holley system max intake and AFR 185 heads with a .572 lift cam.
kyle
08-07-2003, 12:22 AM
I rebuilt a 292 Y block out of a 1964 Ford F-100 with a 3 on the tree, that motor was a torque monster! I also owned a 1979 Ford F-100 with a 4.9 Inline 6cyl, it only had 81k original miles on it! Now i own a 2001 Ford F-150 4x4 with a 4.2 in it with a 5sp. It's a powerful 6cyl. I wish i still had my 79, but i had to have 4wd, can't live with out it around here.