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Dirtcrasher
05-22-2010, 01:18 PM
If your gonna dig down 5000 FEET!! You had better have 100% foolproof safety devices implemented!!

No?? Or am I ignorant? Plenty of people insist on the need for fossil fuel as we reach (or have reached) overpopulation and fine, if it's needed, have at it.

Supposedly there is a check valve that SHOULD HAVE stopped the leak when the platform blew up, but this is BS!!

I just watched a live shot of crude oil entering the ocean at an alarming rate.

Can't ANY STUPID ARSE ENGINEER find a way to stop this?? Whats it been 2,3, 4 weeks now??

I know Goat is in Louisiana and I guess it's headed that way.

If Katrina didn't get ya now the oil spill will.

A tanker hitting something is one thing, but this opening is just dumping oil like MAD!!

IDK about you guys but it's got me steamin.

There was a show on Geographic channel today about life in 2100 (thats if the Mayans calender is wrong) and it's one hell of a change from life as we know it.

jonathandexter
05-22-2010, 01:35 PM
They are really Pathetic!!! So much for the movies and those deep sea salvage rescues huh? My clams are steamed so bad theyre dry, and turning black. I just give up!!! How is it we can't save ourselves, but we have to go out there in other countries and save every body else. This country spends more money on other people, other countries, than whole countries have!!! And the other countries hate us in many cases, and don't even want our help. But when we have a crisis here in our own turf, everyone is at the Movies.
IT's So freaking embarrasing quite frankly!!!
UHHGG!

SWIGIN
05-22-2010, 02:16 PM
Don't worry guys, Kevin Cosner (spelling?) the dude that was in water world is going to save the day.

And I'm not kidding....google it.

Dirtcrasher
05-22-2010, 03:09 PM
They are really Pathetic!!! So much for the movies and those deep sea salvage rescues huh? My clams are steamed so bad theyre dry, and turning black. I just give up!!! How is it we can't save ourselves, but we have to go out there in other countries and save every body else. This country spends more money on other people, other countries, than whole countries have!!! And the other countries hate us in many cases, and don't even want our help. But when we have a crisis here in our own turf, everyone is at the Movies.
IT's So freaking embarrasing quite frankly!!!
UHHGG!


I am right with you bud!!

factoryX
05-22-2010, 03:31 PM
If we did actual "on land" drilling this would not be and issue, oil tankers are actually safe for transport. Also, did anyone see where there is 3 hours of missing data from the black box right before the explosion ?

SWIGIN
05-22-2010, 03:38 PM
water world to the rescue!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/kevin-costner-machine-bp-oil-clean/story?id=10689928

oldskool83
05-22-2010, 05:44 PM
it sucks but i heard somthing come out that one crew member knew there was a problem and said dont worry about it. heard it on the radio but cant confirm that. either way i hope the water world idea works. that would be great.

Dirtcrasher
05-22-2010, 05:55 PM
WOW, just wow.............

I hope the younger members understand what this can do to an already crippled economy.

A 4" pipe, THANKS SO MUCH BP!! capturing 30-40% of the crude oil.

How about a 12" pipe guys?? Or was that too expensive. I didn't realize but my mom said today that it had been nearly a month now..........

Lets hope the "centrifuge" captures most of the existing oil but there's allot out there thats already in Louisiana (Where are ya GOAT!!)

Has BP ever explained why TWO safety valves failed?? I bet they weren't even working so that the flow wouldn't be restricted.

The disaster by the EXXON Valdez is STILL impacting that area and that was what? 20 years ago??

SICKENING!

Mosh
05-22-2010, 09:12 PM
It is a conspiracy IMO..
Now in about three months, you will see a judicial/congressional panel implement some new law out of this, that raises fuel prices, and enacts new taxes and enviromental laws that will further spiral the common man on down the ladder.

You expect me to believe we can build nuclear bombs, or put men in space, and we cant plug a damn hole in the ocean that we drilled?
Yeah Right!

And why isnt the Govt fining them like 1mil a day for the leak?

Cuz it is all planned.

Name Brand
05-22-2010, 09:14 PM
The disaster by the EXXON Valdez is STILL impacting that area and that was what? 20 years ago??

SICKENING!


Exxon told us that disaster was finally done when the court cases got settled; it was in the paper last year.

http://www.sqwalk.com/blog2008/AnchorageDailyNews-ExxonValdes-26Jun2008.jpg

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for natural resource development, but it has to be done with safety and responsibility. This is a disaster that will not go away for decades.

The Goat
05-22-2010, 09:35 PM
Steve check out the spill in 79...it went on for seven months and dropped over 11million barrels of oil...yeah. bad.

This one is pretty bad, but the way I look at it, they're just gonna amp up drilling on shore now.

I'm fine with that.

Escanabajosh
05-29-2010, 12:31 PM
Hemp oil yeilds per acre: ~ 40 gallons / acre-year (http://journeytofore...esel_yield.html)
US Oil Consumption: ~ 20 million barrels / day, or 300 million gallons/year (http://www.eia.doe.g...s/quickoil.html)


At full production, then, about 7 million acres of hemp would be required to produce enough hemp oil to equal current petroleum consumption.

Total US crop-producing farmland: ~400 million acres (http://www.ers.usda....atefacts/us.htm)

So oil-producing hemp would need to be about 2% (7 million / 400 million) of current crop acreage.



HEMP IS THE CURE to this madness, henry ford had a hemp farm just down the road from my town , back in like the 40's he made a car outta hemp that ran on hemp oil.

The left over scraps can be used for there fibers or for bio fuel for power plants! we need to start farming this again, america has so much history with hemp yet we dont grow it because it LOOKS like marijuana! you can smoke 3 pounds of hemp and all you'll get is a head ach. we need to start getting our gov. to let our farmers grow this NOW!

Dirtcrasher
05-29-2010, 12:37 PM
I'm down with hemp but BP should be shut down after this catastrophe!!

Did they PLUG the F^&%$#@!* thing yet??

Maybe they could plug it with Gary Coleman?? :rolleyes: Cruel joke, I know..........

Some reporter said they wanted to try and FILL IT WITH GARBAGE!!

Can you F-N believe that??!!

I am so sorry for you people along the coast line, but this will affect all of us long past our own demise.....................

Escanabajosh
05-29-2010, 03:14 PM
gary coleman,lol

ya i think right now there trying to do the "junk shot" where they fill it with golf balls and chunks of tires and other crap then there trying to add stuff called mud that is thicker then oil to back force the oil down so they can fill it with cement! i think there on day 4 of applying the mud!

there trying to drill two holes to relive the preasure of the leaking pipe, they figure about 6 months to get them done!

once hurican season comes that oil is going to be everywhere!

i just seen that yesterday they found a plum of oil that was bigger (3x) then the main one they found and then now they found a even bigger one, so big they couldn't find the end of it. they sent a sub under it and when it came up it was full of oil!

i think the east coast will be seeing it soon.

300rman
05-29-2010, 04:04 PM
I dont understand how it isnt floating to the surface.

regardless, get some tankers out there with pumps, drop hoses into the crap, and suck it up. after it is recovered, it can still be used.

puggerton03
05-29-2010, 07:02 PM
I cant wait to see the gas prices in another 6 months or so. We're going to be paying for thier fu*k up.

Escanabajosh
05-29-2010, 07:49 PM
get some tankers out there with pumps, drop hoses into the crap, and suck it up. after it is recovered, it can still be used.


i seen on msn or cnn that there was a spill in the arabian sea where they did that, they had 4-5 super tankers doing laps thru it sucking it up and when they were full they would take it to shore where it would be filtered, they should have been doing that from the start.

Escanabajosh
05-29-2010, 07:55 PM
I cant wait to see the gas prices in another 6 months or so. We're going to be paying for thier fu*k up.

they just said on the radio that gas has been going down the past 22 days! i think there just trying to lube us up before they make the big price jump.

a buddy of mine that follows stuff on "the hill" said somthing about a bill that says BP should pay like 30% of the cost or something along them lines! i dont think the tax payers should have to drop a cent on the clean up......they should have had the saftey devices in place.


did yas here that the saftey guys where on crystal meth and that most of there computers were full of porn.....just porn! they were also getting paid under the table to ignore stuff! not sure how true all this is but i wouldnt be suprised......how long have we been drilling for and nothing as bad as this has happen.

GROW HEMP,lol.

Escanabajosh
05-29-2010, 07:59 PM
just seen this on yahoo, sounds like there latest effort to plug it aint gunna work! back to the drawing board......6 weeks and 40 million gallons later!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

Escanabajosh
05-30-2010, 01:10 PM
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0525/oil-inspector-crystal-meth-letting-companies-fill-audits-report/

Yamahondaman
05-30-2010, 01:49 PM
HA HA ... Let's Train Somebody OVER SEA'S TO FLY AN LET THEM blow up some building's in NY.. AND THEN .... "Let's go and drill for oil so we don't have to depend on there oil to cut cost" ... and then SCREW IT UP !! HA HA ......... DUMMIE AMERICAN'S !!!!!

Mr_RPM
05-30-2010, 02:11 PM
There was a show on Geographic channel today about life in 2100 (thats if the Mayans calender is wrong) and it's one hell of a change from life as we know it.
i saw this too. Its got me thinking and i believe something major is going to change within the next 50ish years. kinda weird to think about.

Dirtcrasher
05-30-2010, 02:34 PM
HA HA ... Let's Train Somebody OVER SEA'S TO FLY AN LET THEM blow up some building's in NY.. AND THEN .... "Let's go and drill for oil so we don't have to depend on there oil to cut cost" ... and then SCREW IT UP !! HA HA ......... DUMMIE AMERICAN'S !!!!!

:lol: Right on Ronnie!! :beer Yeah, maybe they can fly a plane fast enough into the leak that it will plug it?; Then they just have to clean up the jet fuel.......... At the very least it will be very good target practice for them :rolleyes: They're probably laughing there arse off over this one!

300rman
05-30-2010, 03:13 PM
they just said on the radio that gas has been going down the past 22 days! i think there just trying to lube us up before they make the big price jump.





yep....2.35 and falling around here...i am shocked it isnt rocketing upwards. i hope they make it 15 dollars a gallon so the economy crashes, then maybe the conservatives will wake up and DEAL with the liberals.....BOOM HEADSHOT!

Dirtcrasher
05-30-2010, 03:42 PM
I feel like the economy HAS crashed but it can get much much worse I'm sure!!

Just add another terrorist attack to ice the cake, if you are reading this Mr. Suicide Bomber.... Then you can have your virgins :rolleyes: even if you smell like a camel...

ilmoakw
05-30-2010, 08:44 PM
BP could stop the leak tomorrow. All they have to do is put some explosives down the whole and it will collapse in on itself. The problem is, if they were to do that, the lose the rights to that little chunk of land the actual pipe is sitting on. They don't even want to think of that option...

Dirtcrasher
05-30-2010, 11:26 PM
^ It's all about the $$, there billions of dollars of a HALF_ARASE" clean up will merely result in higher gas prices form US!!

My personal feeling, is that our world SUKS, it's all about GREEED!! Terrible shame........................................

Yamahondaman
06-01-2010, 10:16 PM
: They're probably laughing there arse off over this one!
YES !!!.......... Wait Till "They" Open up on the next Super Bowl Crowd or the BIGGEST DAM in the U.S.
NASTY to think of but "we" can't do NOTHING about it .... TOO LATE

1grindking
06-02-2010, 12:00 AM
i cant say much cuz i drive a truck that dont even get 15mpg but if every1 that was just comuting in big cities used electric cars & got there power from wind turbines or even ppl that have room for that sort of thing it would lower the demand but the pay off of savings is so long term nobody wants to get it all started & i dont have a wind mill but would love 1 & as far as the oil spill goes we dont need that much fuel just for semis & train & our old whlrs, sleds & motorcycles 90% of our cars should be electric...

3wheelmecca
06-02-2010, 12:30 AM
IMO, I think these disasters are coming to 2012, nostradamus predicted it, Michealangelo quoted "The big eyed monster will make the collapse. The gov't, the omniscent eye, it all seems to add up. I need to get some sleep or its really happening, I love fuel, but this is ridiculous.

jensenracing77
06-02-2010, 05:41 AM
this would not be an issue if the environmental wack jobs didn't push them out farther. now the same people wonder why or how this could happen. now Obama wants to prosecute people, well he should start with the left wing environmentalest.

Name Brand
06-02-2010, 04:31 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/M.Wiseman,FL.obamavsbp.jpg

jensenracing77
06-02-2010, 09:33 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/M.Wiseman,FL.obamavsbp.jpg

now that's funny

DixiePlowboy
06-05-2010, 01:26 AM
Can't help but feel that there is a reason the president is partying while the gulf dies.

Escanabajosh
06-05-2010, 06:25 AM
this pres is a dip trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro.....first pres to not go to arlington on memorial day in how long.......must not care cause it aint even his country!

The Goat
06-07-2010, 08:51 PM
I took a ride down to the LA coastline a few days ago.

Completely deserted except for the army presence doing what they best...whatever they can.

Beaches were cleaned up. Not a single tar ball out there. No dead animals or fish. I hit a couple of golf balls while watching the young army guys try to catch fish barehanded (with huge chemical gloves on cause they were scared of them). BP hasn't done trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro. The Army cleaned up Grand Isle a ridiculous amount in less than one week. I have pictures from the week before I went and tar balls were everywhere.

Only one big issue down there. NO BUDWEISER OR BUDLIGHT. Sat down at a restaurant...ordered a beer, and the lady says "we don't have budweiser right now. We have coors light and miller lite" one of the worst decisions I've ever had to make in my life. Took a few sips of the salty piss that is miller lite...and ate my meal beverage free. lol

Russell 350X
06-13-2010, 11:42 PM
I have been following on this somewhat. All they have to do is set a large charge on the bottom and collapse it on itself, to plug it. But! if they do that, they loose the rights to the lease..which to me makes no sense, they have already lost that well...and they are losing money as we speak, SO PLUG THE F$@KIN THING!!!! I am in the gas field, I do not deal with oil fields, but what happened should not have ever happened. As big and "professional" as BP claims to be, every blowout preventer ( I believe there was 7 on that well) and check valves should have been checked and rechecked very often, especially a well that pushes that much PSI. Were I work, if someone finds a bad check valve, or pop-off(or relief valve, whatever you want to call it) The site is SHUT DOWN until the problem is taken care of. BP could give a rats ass about the environment, all they care about is keeping that lease.

djberg
06-14-2010, 12:05 AM
Hemp oil yeilds per acre: ~ 40 gallons / acre-year (http://journeytofore...esel_yield.html)
US Oil Consumption: ~ 20 million barrels / day, or 300 million gallons/year (http://www.eia.doe.g...s/quickoil.html)


At full production, then, about 7 million acres of hemp would be required to produce enough hemp oil to equal current petroleum consumption.

Total US crop-producing farmland: ~400 million acres (http://www.ers.usda....atefacts/us.htm)

So oil-producing hemp would need to be about 2% (7 million / 400 million) of current crop acreage.



HEMP IS THE CURE to this madness, henry ford had a hemp farm just down the road from my town , back in like the 40's he made a car outta hemp that ran on hemp oil.

The left over scraps can be used for there fibers or for bio fuel for power plants! we need to start farming this again, america has so much history with hemp yet we dont grow it because it LOOKS like marijuana! you can smoke 3 pounds of hemp and all you'll get is a head ach. we need to start getting our gov. to let our farmers grow this NOW!

LOL!!!! sprock start plantin the weed! screw soy beans just imagine how much money the bush binladin family would give you at each harvesting!!!!

but back on subject not cool... greed on the corporate level needs to be harnessed some how.

and i am no republican and nor am i a democrat, but man mr. obama wtf?!?!!??!! now any corporation can lobby as much money to what ever candidate they want????? we really are screwed

jeffatc250r
06-14-2010, 12:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSujCHfvTb0&feature=player_embedded :lol:

jeffatc250r
06-14-2010, 12:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM&feature=player_embedded :lol::lol::lol:

SeaBass8
06-14-2010, 09:19 AM
Funny and sad at the same time.

Mosh
06-14-2010, 12:40 PM
That second vid was hillarious!

jeffatc250r
06-17-2010, 02:04 PM
http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/skunkhunter/aquaman.jpg

Tri-Z 250
06-17-2010, 04:07 PM
What you really don't understand is, this is an entire SNOWJOB.

What if I told you this is way worse than they are leading on....Why not just cap the well?
Why can BP not contain the blow out and stuff the hole already?

Imagine a huge ZiT(it was an oil pocket/normal) under the earth under the water....BP pushes down
along any drilling you hit Natural Gas Pockets...this adds pressure which aids in the recovery of the oil
and becomes seperated on the surface or burned off. If I told you they are letting this leak because to cork this
MONSTER might just cause an Explosion the size of Mt St Helen's proportion...The fumes alone would most likely be toxic and travel the GLOBE.
The Suenomie(sp)...big freaking wave traveling at 400mph would make Katrina, look tiny flood.

This one worries me...just pray I'm completely off my rocker:crazy: