What to get, what to get?

[The Goat]

I'm at a serious toss up. Do I go with a 2010 Polaris sportsman 800...or the suzuki KQ 750. The zuki seems more reliable by far.

[puggerton03]

Go with the Sportsman XP. Its an 850 right?

[LT80]

Suzuki IMO. Like mentioned..Reliability.
I had a zuki 4x4. In 2500 miles it was trouble free.

[factoryX]

LOL, the Polaris walks all over it though.

[dirtbiken]

first of all you guys obvisouly dont read and just post. he said he dont know what do get a polaris 800 or a suzuki king quad 750. puggerton he never said anything about a xp 850. he siad a 800. and factory maybe the polaris would walks all over it as you put it. but obvisouly stated he dont want it to walks all over everything. he wants the KQ becuase it is reliable. I would pick the 750 to if it was me.

[factoryX]

Well I can personally state that Polaris is reliable as well, My friend owning a sports man 700 for 4 years riding it hard and not one problem. And another friend on 800 with no problems. I wonder how the xp sportsman handles.

[dirtbiken]

My cousin has the xp and seems to really love it. I drove it, its pretty powerfull but not what I am looking for. I want to buy a 2010 yfz-450 SE.

[puggerton03]

Dirtbiken, No, he didnt mention the xp850. I simply gave my opinion. IMO, the XP is alot better than a regular Sportsman. OP, either machine is nice, wish I had your dilemma.

[dirtbiken]

well he wasnt really asking for your opioion and he wasnt talking about a xp so why bring it up?

[puggerton03]

LOL, aaaayyyyy, Because I wanted to bring it up.

[haggard 2hundie]

woa forum fight settle down guys we r all friends here

[southtexas250r]

Why are some people so standoffish??? i mean who cares what he asked no harm no fowl for stating your opinion... persoally i would not buy either #1 both of em you have to get a dealer to wor on cause there so packed and hard to work on... they all break... #2 yamaha is always been the best and always will be... i watched a stock 700 grizly eat both them bikes up in a drag race soo its all in which one your more comfortable with.. Are you going to be pulling a goose neck trailer with it??? why do you need such a big displacement atv... if your gona get that big you might as well get a rhino or ranger or sumthin like that???? just my opinion DIRTBIKEN

[LT80]

Someone mentioned the dealer. An important aspect. I'd get a lesser machine if I thought the dealer was better. Dealer support means alot.
Seeins we're giving opinions,(LOL), I will mention that my neighbor has a Arctic Cat 400 4x4. He plows in the winter virtually comercially. It's rode every day. It's 4 years old and he put a starter in it this last winter. I'd have to look at a AC if I was going to go 4x4 again.

Why does Polaris make so many models?? Still trying to make a good one..j/k
Funny joke for a guy that's getting a Polaris 450MXR eh..HAHAHA

[The Goat]

Easy guys easy. There's a method to my madness I promise.

1) I'd like to get a razr, but I'm not justifying 10k on another offroad vehicle.
2) I'd like to get a grizzly 700, they are reliable, put out decent hp and have a nice following with good aftermarket. Problem? Almost 9k out the door down here from most dealers.
3) I have a GREAT Artic Cat dealer right up the road who has a 2008 650 h1 trv, but won't come down off his 7400$ price tag.
4) The 850xp polaris really suits me (I'm big...it's big, great torque and power)... but reliability has been suffering. These big utilities are getting to the point where they have more suspension travel than most sports quads. Not to mention that polaris has unfortunately put tons of parts from China on this one. Wheel bearings failing at 300 miles isn't my cup of tea. Price tag....7300 OTD.
5) Polaris 500 is a great bike at a comparably low price 4500 OTD. But the power is lacking for something quite so heavy.
6) Brute Force 750 honestly isn't a bad bike, but at the price, you shouldn't have to change a bunch of little things right off the floor to make it a truly reliable machine. I know me...I'd eat a belt.
7) The Polaris 800 is a twin cylinder 760 cc motor with 50hp and nearly 50 ft/lbs of torque. It can tow just about ANYTHING in stock form. Reliability on the motor is unquestionable. They will run after being dunked time and time again. How Polaris managed to do that is completely beyond me. Very good aftermarket. Built in storage box from the front from the factory. Stealth snorkel systems available. I even like the color. Oh yeah....and 6500 OTD with a 4 year warranty from a GREAT dealer. Some people have some belt slippage issues from the factory, and some people have some issues with the belt housing leaking after a long time.
8) The suzuki 750... a late entry into this little contest. 49.6 hp.... a little over 40 on the torque. Naturally it's not going to have the torque of a big twin. BUT... I haven't been able to find a single issue with these bikes. The 750s seem to be utterly FLAWLESS in their mechanics. They are ugly as hell...BUT if you cough up a little cash and get the white one...they honestly don't look too bad. Tons of performance parts. Snorkel I can either make or get the triangle boys to make one. 5999 plus tax... from the same dealer I was gonna get the POPO from.



As for the 800 polaris walking all over the KQ...eh...it's got a ltitle more torque, and it is a little faster in a drag in stock form. As for a stock grizzly eating both of their lunches in a drag race... Negative. A stock grizzly is actually a fairly impressive ride. It's got enough oomph to put a helluva smile on your face. But power wise it isn't built to compete with either of these bikes. It's built to blow anything that honda has clean out of the water and be DEAD RELIABLE. Which it does quite well.

The Polaris 800 has better power, better suspension, better ride, better looks and better aftermarket. The KQ has better reliability. It's currently a toss up.

Should you want a fire breathing monster, coop mods to the 750 with a vdi...and it's throwing down the same HP as the new xp on a bike that weighs 160 pounds less.

[Mr_RPM]

what about the Can-Am 800? id rather have that then the polaris, but for me and utility 4x4s id stick with anything honda, yamaha, suzuki, or kawasaki. the can-am outlander is pretty awesome though. ALOT of power and a good alround machine.
thing is anything new will due

[The Goat]

Unfortunately the canam has a frame that was designed by a fairy... and a pricetag that thinks a little too highly of itself.

I need something the size of a 2 up so me and the gf can ride comfortably. The old 300 I got just isn't enough when riding in the mud. The 2 inches of suspension travel is just enough to tip you over when creeping and leaning to get traction.

The bike must be able to cruise comfortably at 50.

Another unfortunate thing is that most of these new bikes can't hold their weight after a short period of time. which is really quite sad.

[Mr_RPM]

I think that KQ you were talking about will do just that.

[Tri-Z 250]

Unfortunately the canam has a frame that was designed by a fairy...which is really quite sad.

now now, G-man the term is FAG...lets not confuse our newbies. Gay men don't have wings and Tinkerbell works with lost junk.

[The Goat]

That's a term I typically don't use. Partly becuase I'm not a homophobe who has issues with his manhood.

When I said it looked like it was designed by a fairy... I did indeed mean the little winged creature that flys around. The manufacturer forgot that most riders are men. Men don't look for ways around or over things, we get in em or go through em.

The Polaris frames are miles above any other manufacturer when talking durability. Prolly why their bikes wall weigh 700+.

[Tri-Z 250]

[QUOTE=The Goat;877369]That's a term I typically don't use. Partly becuase I'm not a homophobe who has issues with his manhood.

When I said it looked like it was designed by a fairy... I did indeed mean the little winged creature that flys around. QUOTE]

10-4 and agree I'm not pobic to calling any gay man a fag either. Even if he does work for Polairs and wears wings on the ASSembly line.:lol:

[old honda dealr]

Maybe most of you guys will disagree with me on this one, but I would say look into the Rincon 680. Honda is known much better then anything else for reliability and there transmission is second to none. Gonna be down on power from the v-twins but the price is where you want it. Ride quality is there and it will handle 2 people and the speed you want to maintain with no issues what so ever. just my .02 cents

[The Goat]

Lol that's a negative on the rinny.

35 hp out of a 680cc engine is disgusting. Suspension is crap. Rear end is weak. It's a Honda so that means no dealership will warranty it when I break something.

The only good hondas are old hondas. Too many mods required to be competitive. My old 300 can spin 28s in anything and is basically stock. That rinny isn't doing that.

[Thorpe]

My buddy has a CanAm Outlander, and that thing is tough as whale bone... He has done nothing but pound the pooh out of that thing, and it always start, and always goes... IF I were going to buy a 4x4, I would have to give a CanAm some serious consideration... (Just my opinion)

[dirtbiken]

we could care less about your opioion

[Thorpe]

We? Do you have a turd in your pocket?

[The Goat]

lol seems you 3wheeler guys have some serious angst when it comes to discussing 4x4s.

Thorpe man, I thought about a canam as I like the rotax motor...but the frame just isn't going to hold up down here. Not to mention the bike is just small to me.

[Thorpe]

How big are you? My bud stands 6'3" and weighs 350... Pounds the dog snot out of that thing... Funniest thing ever to see a dude that big, jump that big of a wheeler... He has 27" Mudlite XLs on it...

[SWIGIN]

Hey Goat, I know a dude who was sponcered by can-am and I know the super secret ''factory'' frame mod to get them to hold up better....



Think 2 5 feet long pipes and a sledge hammer......no lie.

[Mr_RPM]

out of all the new quads of any make and any class i have never heard of the frame being the weak spot of the atv, frames now of days are over looked because they arnt a problem. Can-Am even makes a 2 person setup and im guessing the frames design is super similar just longer. when buying an atv the frames wouldn't be a worry for me. also idk why people seem to think hondas suck now days. while they may be under equipped, but everything they makes works. out of all the new bikes that leave my dads work honda customers always seem to end up the happiest.
the Original thread maker was stuck between the polaris and suzuki, most said dont get the polaris yet its still getting brought up. i think deep down Goat want the polaris and just wants to hear others agree to that and support. I think anything new will be fine, even the polaris. i have felt the same about wanting a 12 gauge yet majority says 20. comes down to what i want and thats a 12. =) get what you want goat not what we want. new for new they all due what job you assign with some to spare.

[The Goat]

The frames ARE a problem... once you start looking for issues, it's amazing how many people have had their frames replaced under warranty.

When the money comes, my first step is to call the guy up the road and offer him 6500 flat for the 2008 artic cat 650 trv. If he says good, I'm getting that one. If he says nope, I'm driving 120 miles to atv zone in roseland, la and handing scott a check for him to order me an 800 popo. The more I'm looking at them, if I get anything else I'll be getting less bike for the money.

I sent in a price request on the popo 800 to a closer dealer, and now he's constantly emailing and calling trying to sell me an 09 800r canam. I explained I have ZERO interested in a 10k offroad machine. He keeps calling. Idiot.

Honda's are for people who don't expect a lot out of their machines. It's even getting to the point where the new ones can't do farm work... valve seals are MELTING even with aftermarket oil coolers. The 650h1 is first choice. The 800 popo is second. Hopefully I know something this week.

[Mr_RPM]

let us know how you like your machine, whatever it may be.

[The Goat]

instead of getting it asap...I have to wait until the end of freaking august due to financial constraints. BLAH.

Had cash in hand and put it on bills and buying stuff for the new place... acting like a grownup SUCKS

[dirtjunkie85]

I do hear great things about the Can Am. Personally I'm not a polaris fan. they have crappy engineering IMO. they just seem to make things more complicated than they need to be. I would snatch up the can am if you can get it at a decent price. the suzuki's are nice too.

[The Goat]

I don't know if I ever posted anything about this... but I made my decision...and was able to get what I wanted a little earlier than expected!

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/roundheya/687f294a.jpg

55hp... it's actually pretty quick for a big bike. But where it really impresses me is the ride on trails... going over small logs and ruts...you don't feel a THING.

Since I'm at a dealership now, I'm prolly gonna try to get a set of Elkas for it in the future...it should really ride like a dream then.

[The Goat]

Just thought I'd update this. One year in I've changed only fluids and filters. Put some aftermarket bumpers on too. Atv-guru is the man to contact. Also put a 3k viper winch with synthetic line (also zero issues, unlike ahitty warn that's sitting in the shed).

As the manufacturer suggests, I only use high when going above 15, I've had zero belt wear.

I stopped using bikes as a submarine as well, this one has never seen water over the floorboards.

Top speed is 66 with stock tires and cutout.

If anyone is looking for a trail or utility bike, I can't recommend this unit highly enough. Torque is unreal. I drug a 14x12 shed off of it's blocks and a few hundred yards to a new resting place, if I wouldn't have looked back, I would have sworn nothing was there.

The only thing I will say is that if you have never ridden a Polaris, it's quite disconcerting to hear the clunking coming from the driveline upon deceleration. Worrisome until you look at it and understand how it works. It's an ingenious design that should actually improve longevity. Looking at it I would assume much better oiling than if the setup was very tight.

It has zero wet clutch so it's not as forgiving as the yamaha belt system, BUT it handles high load applications better.

The only issue I had was my fiancee had her foot resting on the foot brake while we were riding at 40-60mph. Because of the belt drive, I honestly wasn't able to notice until it roasted my rear pads, however it highlighted a defect in a stainless line by causing a burst. Totally our fault, which I told the dealer, it was replaced under warranty, no charges at all. Didn't have a trailer to tow it home, so I rode the 36 miles on the hwy with Taylor following me with the flashers on.

Almost got a ticket for speeding, other than that all was well.

If I had to do it again, rzr. Same motor in a side by side. Well worth 6300 and Scott at atvzone in roseland is THE man to see about buying a polaris.