Here it is-250R in the crate!!! let see if anyone has the money to back up the talk.

[blue27]

Posting to help the auction, I would LOVE to have but I do not have the money, but some one will,lol This is a real collectable in the ATC world.

Good Luck K10

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Honda-ATC-250R-NOS-parts-OEM-crate-USED-/110593078762?pt=ATVs&hash=item19bfdc75ea

[Shorty]

I couldn't stand leaving it in the crate. I would assemble it, break it in and show it. I mean what in the world is the point of having a trike you can't roll??:lol::lol:

[dcreel]

Andy, I hope you the best in this endeavor, although a bummer to see it leave your protection. Hopefully whoever wins the auction will continue to keep it in the crate. A piece of history for sure.

[ATCT]

Amazing! The fact one is still around like that really is incredible.

[ATCeeya]

this will be interesting to say the least to see just how much this puppy will get bid up to. He put it up for sale at the right place thats for sure.

[Cuztom Racing]

Wow!! Unbelieveable!

[whyzee]

IDK, Why does it say the bike is used? Is it possible to put together an almost NOS bike and put it into a crate and make $8,000 or so ....??, possibly ! The 86 model does share a few parts with the TRX250R
I would love to hear from an expert like Mike from VMS. Either way , worth $10k-$20k to the right person, esp. with the worldwide shipping.

[vintagemotorsports]

I just saw the 250r, Im guessing Andy is saying used as a legal action , Honda is very strickt about not letting dealers sell any of there products unassembled in the crate ,although people do all the time , also the liability of selling a "NEW" 3 wheeler. I would not worry about any of that who ever buys this will do what needs to be done with it and preserve it forever . I already put some calls in to 2 of my big player customers they will be game for this bike. wish i had the cash myself but realistically 20k is not out of the question even in these times. he must be sad to see it go but like all things the hunt and purchase is the best part sometimes I thought i would never sell my brand new 87 250sx but there comes a time . good luck Andy !!

[yooperman]

I hear there shorty I would ride the heck out of it. Rare or not, I could handle it just being a show piece. Plus the urge would kill me. But I hate to see how much it goes for gonna have to keep a eye one it. My wife would kill me if I even tried to buy it but way to rich for my blood.

[Cuztom Racing]

Bidding is up to $12,100 and reserve not met?!

[whyzee]

I just saw the 250r, Im guessing Andy is saying used as a legal action , Honda is very strickt about not letting dealers sell any of there products unassembled in the crate ,although people do all the time , also the liability of selling a "NEW" 3 wheeler. I would not worry about any of that who ever buys this will do what needs to be done with it and preserve it forever . I already put some calls in to 2 of my big player customers they will be game for this bike. wish i had the cash myself but realistically 20k is not out of the question even in these times. he must be sad to see it go but like all things the hunt and purchase is the best part sometimes I thought i would never sell my brand new 87 250sx but there comes a time . good luck Andy !!

Thanks for the lesson ! Going to be fun to watch ! My bet is that it sells way before the auction ends ! Good luck seller!

[whyzee]

if the seller checks in here , you gotta post the page views and watchers for us !

[ATCT]

What do people think, $35K for this? There's 9 days left. There has to be some bidders out there who use the logical, last seconds bidding. At $12,600 right now.

[whyzee]

no way $35k . I am betting $15K is the magic # :)
Until the reserve is met by someone, I don't even pay attention or believe the bids .

[Orangecnty250r]

Love it!!!! Good luck.......what a gem!!!!

[cbx1170]

Not to change the subject but kinda on the same note did you see the TWO to a crate Special 86 Chrome Honda Z50's get to $56,000 a few years back? Didn't make reserve even. I printed copies of the EBAY auction to document it. MONEY $$$$

[NINJA]

Goodluck on this one Andy! I'm not even going to speculate what this could go for. It is the only known crated R in existence. Believe me, there are people out there that have been looking exactly for this for years. You are definitely going to make some good money off this one man. This is very exciting!

[HoldOnTrike84]

I love it and would definitely put it together!

[vintagemotorsports]

If I were to quess, i would say the number would be between 20-23K, I have done several 15K 86 250r restorations and to have one new in the crate with all the correct stuff just imagine , correct color plastic , correct stamped tires, new tank ,stuff that is just extinct this is the best of the best , best model ATC made and new in the crate this will break records for sure .

[Billy Golightly]

Wow! What an amazing opportunity for someone, geeze!

[atc007]

Saw them, Same seller had a very nice 86 X. It had been setup and rode around the yard,,,literally. He sold it with the original DUST on it! For real,did not wash it off! It went,$8200,I believe. The Z's are still in Jersey as far as I know.

[atc500x]

I know where there is 2 of those 250r crated,sitting in a garage,stored since 1986.The owner was a mecanic at a Honda dealer and buy it,put it in is garage and they sit here since....

[Xpress]

I'd get that thing in a heartbeat if i had the cash.

Spend a month putting it together, then carefully place it in my living room inside a display case. Charge $200 admission :lol:

[Cuztom Racing]

I know where there is 2 of those 250r crated,sitting in a garage,stored since 1986.The owner was a mecanic at a Honda dealer and buy it,put it in is garage and they sit here since....

Come on now?!?! We need pics!

[D-dub]

over $15k now.

[Cuztom Racing]

no way $35k . I am betting $15K is the magic # :)
Until the reserve is met by someone, I don't even pay attention or believe the bids .

$15,600 with 9 days left! This think is going way over 15k! Probably over $30k when it's said and done!

[Vealmonkey]

And we'll see who backs out too.

[yj350]

The addition on the house or this :naughty::naughty::naughty:??? Oh wait I would not be able to afford this plus the divorce.

[NINJA]

I know where there is 2 of those 250r crated,sitting in a garage,stored since 1986.The owner was a mecanic at a Honda dealer and buy it,put it in is garage and they sit here since....

You are being sarcastic correct?
Everytime a thread starts about this R somebody comes in here and claims something like this. Then the same old routine, we ask for pics or verification, guy who said it never responds. It's like one of those urban legends, that miraculously spreads around the internet, then you start getting those emails from your annoying friends that like to forward chit like this to you, but never have anything meaningful to share. Then a bunch of people believe it, then it shows up on Mythbusters a year later.

[Buster Brown]

At work hiding in my tractor (smart phone).
Grining along with you guys! Can't say too much,..... but this is exciting & fun! We'll see.......????? Enjoy!

[dcreel]

Andy, You are making history right now. Definitely can't wait to see the outcome.

[cbx1170]

Hope it turns well. NICE TRYKE. Wish i had one in the box! Watching.....

[whyzee]

I remember when you bought this B Brown. Smart move to put it on ebay. Best of luck !! from what I remember you paying for it , you are on the + side , and the auction just began :)

[atc500x]

Sorry like everytime no picture,the guys don't want to sell it,I know they are there because he said I was a big fan of 3 wheeler,but he don't want everybody in the world know what he have in is garage.I have his phone number,if maybe I go back in his area I will try another time.....

[trikeman78]

Over $16,000 now. Reserve still not meet. Im guessing it will sell for around $25,000. There are plenty of deep pocket collectors out there.
I love it. Now I get to show all the naysayers that yes trikes are a collectable and valued machine. It takes something to be over 25 years old to really start gaining "classic" status. Just check out the NADA book value on a US90. Upwords of $2,000.
But as far as this 250r in crate, its better I cant afford it. Every day I would stare at it and want to put it together and ride it. Torture for sure.

[dksix]

This is just rumors but there is a family who owns several motorcycle dealer ships in north east TN, started in the 60's. One of my friends knows them well, his father was a mechanic for them for years and they sponsored my friend and his father in 3 wheeler racing for several years. I've heard stories that they have kept many last models of various bikes unopened in the crate for investments. I haven't seen them and I have never heard either the father (who started the dealerships) or the son (who now runs them) own up to this but if there are people out there who would have had the access and the means to do such a things, they could have. With all that being said, I do know of 2 Honda Superawks (305's I believe) that suddenly showed up in the show room, a matching pair neither showed any miles I think these were like 67 models and this would have been in the mid 90's. The story was that they had just been taken out of the crates and put on display and I have saw a boxed bike that was 12+ years old once when he let my go upstairs to look for a tire once (there were other boxed bikes up there but they were behind the one I saw and I didn't want to nose around since he was being nice enough to let me look around for something I needed). Please understand, I'm not saying this is true or that they would have bothered with 3 wheelers but this is a family who, like I said would have had the means to put them back and access to such. Either way, good luck with the sell B Brown. I don't think I could handle the pressure of owning such a rare piece of history. I'd do something stupid, like ride it-lol.

[rdlsz24]

At work hiding in my tractor (smart phone).
Grining along with you guys! Can't say too much,..... but this is exciting & fun! We'll see.......????? Enjoy!

Andy do you care to share why you are selling?? It was just in Dirt Wheels this month!!

Rob

[Dirtcrasher]

IDK about EBAY though........ You lose 15% between Paypal and final value/listing fees and everyone will see it.

You would think thats a good thing but some dealer probably got a credit from Honda and were to destroy it.

I wouldn't want Honda to see the auction, I just would have called Mike and asked him if he had any buyers........

Just my thoughts.....

[puggerton03]

Good point ^^^^^ or it might go back to Japan.

[Orangecnty250r]

Andy do you care to share why you are selling?? It was just in Dirt Wheels this month!!

Rob


Talk about marketing!!!!

[trikemessiah]

AMAZING...if i had the money i would buy it and stare at it all day lol....buy why does it say in the ebay post that this machine is NOT TO BE ASSEMBLED?

[rasorroad250r]

If it were assembled it would lose all of what makes it so neat. it would no longer be in the crate and then just becomes a really nice unused 86R. I can't believe someone would pay so much for it though, even in the crate. But good luck on the sale and good luck to all the bidders.

[Twilight]

I know that some dealers were trying to push out 250rs in the crate for 1600 in the late 80's
If they could see this now!

[AJZ_200X]

simply amazing...i saw the topic when Andy purchased it and was stunned at the find. Sad to see it up for sale, i hope whoever buys it keeps it in the box

[Billy Golightly]

I just hope someone from here ends up with it. I realize there is a large, upscale base of buyers and collectors that don't frequent here too much...but I'd love to see regular or atleast someone that pops in from time to time end up with it.

[thestud25]

I just hope someone from here ends up with it. I realize there is a large, upscale base of buyers and collectors that don't frequent here too much...but I'd love to see regular or atleast someone that pops in from time to time end up with it.

Billy, put up a poll to have everyone cast there vote for how much it will go for!! I say $32,500!

[Cuztom Racing]

Bidding at $16,100 and reserve not made? I mean damn its a very rare item but it aint the Holy Grail..

[vintagemotorsports]

as far as ATCs go it is the holy grail , none better in my opinion . look what people spend on other hobbies i have seen guitars go for hundreds of thousands of dollars , why should this be any different 16k is nothing wait till you see what happens when the real bidding begins the big guys wont show until the last minute

[swampthang]

anyone ever hear anymore about this 86 Tri-z still in the crate?http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?92013-Check-this-sh*t-out!-86-Tri-z-still-in-crate-new.&highlight=86+triz+crate I believe that theres more out there. There has to be. There was also a rumored 87 t3 in a crate tohttp://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?58017-1987-tecate-3-in-the-crate-opened-up&highlight=87+tecate+crate Look how many 350x crate engines are around. There has to be a 350 in a crate somewhere.

[Cuztom Racing]

as far as ATCs go it is the holy grail , none better in my opinion . look what people spend on other hobbies i have seen guitars go for hundreds of thousands of dollars , why should this be any different 16k is nothing wait till you see what happens when the real bidding begins the big guys wont show until the last minute

Good point. I guess what i was trying to say is i hope this guy dont have a unreal stupid high reserve price..

[Cuztom Racing]

anyone ever hear anymore about this 86 Tri-z still in the crate?http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?92013-Check-this-sh*t-out!-86-Tri-z-still-in-crate-new.&highlight=86+triz+crate I believe that theres more out there. There has to be. There was also a rumored 87 t3 in a crate tohttp://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?58017-1987-tecate-3-in-the-crate-opened-up&highlight=87+tecate+crate Look how many 350x crate engines are around. There has to be a 350 in a crate somewhere.

Oh no doubt this aint the last ATC in the create. With the enonomy in the gutter and people hurting for money you will start seeing them pop up. Its definitely a buyers market right now.

[yooperman]

Big money whooa!! Wish I had that kind money to spend. But like vintage said the big dawgs will come out the very end. So I think its in for a show at the very end.

[Billy Golightly]

Poll added. Feel free to speculate :)

[oldgun]

Good luck Andy !!! I hope it goes well beyond $30,000.00 .

[code200k]

i will be watching this auction..hey Andy how come you didnt post this up yourself?

[tundrawillie]

I never thought I'd see one of these for sale on ebay. Reminds me of the movie 'Needful Things'. It bothers me to think what I would actually do to own it. Let alone one of Marty Hart's or Mike Coe's factory race trikes. Thou shalt not covet, thou shalt not covet...

[Buster Brown]

i will be watching this auction..hey Andy how come you didnt post this up yourself?

Not sure what you mean?? Do you mean why did I not post it here on 3WW first?? This isn't an auction site and I believe this item really belongs at auction. Maybe not on a simple and questionable eBay auction, but something like Barret Jackson or Christie's! Unfortunately Barret Jackson and Christie's cost way more than $23.50 to hammer and may not care to handle a three wheeler due to it's inherit possible legal issues. I really should just keep quiet till this pans out, but hope to have no sad or ill feelings with anyone here. Sooner or later all good things come to an end. If this R sells it will be truly missed, but has given me great joy to have owned!

[code200k]

Andy i didnt mean anything except i wanted to know why you didnt post up that you were selling the trike. good luck with the sale

[Buster Brown]

Sometimes things are just simpler this way, I knew it would be found out soon enough. No worries!

[KASEY]

anyone ever hear anymore about this 86 Tri-z still in the crate?http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?92013-Check-this-sh*t-out!-86-Tri-z-still-in-crate-new.&highlight=86+triz+crate I believe that theres more out there. There has to be. There was also a rumored 87 t3 in a crate tohttp://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?58017-1987-tecate-3-in-the-crate-opened-up&highlight=87+tecate+crate Look how many 350x crate engines are around. There has to be a 350 in a crate somewhere.

i know for a fact there are 2 87 tecates in the crates in florida,,,, i have seen them with my own eyes!! i sold a bunch of parts for a early RM370 to a guy back east several years ago,, when the transport company DIRT-N-DUNE PICKED IT UP.. in the trailer there were over 100 motorcycles . the trailer was double stacked,, there in the back corner was 2 87 tecates still in the crates.. i asked if i could take a pict,,, he said it was not possible and there were also 30 rd 350 and 400's from a private collection,, they do exist ,,,

[dcreel]

Can you imagine what an 87 Tecate in a crate would go for? They are fairly rare in good condition.

[mudbogger]

16,600 and still going.I bid on it and was shocked to see I got outbid in minutes-WOW.Good luck to the seller, he is a member here.It appears he either owns/owned a dealer or is a hardcore collector-which ever he must be sick to sell this.He is liquidating all the stuff he has? It appears he has quite a large amount of rides in the garage.

[luke]

He is liquidating all the stuff he has?



He only has one item listed, where you get this inside info ??

[jeopardy98]

I believe he meant "Is he liquidating all his stuff" because he put a question mark at the end.

[mudbogger]

I believe he meant "Is he liquidating all his stuff" because he put a question mark at the end.

CORRECT-my spelling issues persist.I meant "is he liquidating?"

[jays375]

My guess is it will sell before the auction ends.It won't be long and he will be offered a crazy amount of money.Most of the rare stuff that hits ebay ends that way.I always mark stuff like that and it is usually gone quick and you never know what it goes for.Either a rich collector or if it is a made in Japan machine it goes back there.They buy them back for there museum.Can't wait to see what it goes for.It would fund alot of projects in the future.Hope it doesn't have to be sold because of money problems.That would be awful to lose something like that for that reason.

[Greiver430x]

That looks like the same Honda from page 6 from november dirt wheels. HHHHHMMMMM??????? Am I right, or did someone already mention....

[jeopardy98]

That looks like the same Honda from page 6 from november dirt wheels. HHHHHMMMMM??????? Am I right, or did someone already mention....

It has been mentioned several times. It seems you didn't even read this thread.

[Eric250R]

First let me say I did not read this entire thread, so if this has been said I apologize. But I can't stress enough that this R should stay in the crate. I know, some of you say you couldn't stand to see it and not ride it. But this is history. Let's say you had the cash to buy it. You bring it home, uncrate it, fill it up with fluids and take off. Yeah, it's awesome, your very own brand new R. But guess what ? That brand new R you just paid $20k for is now worth about $5k. A few more rides ? Nothing more than a really nice R. You can buy cherry Rs all day long. But this is a story.....This is history. Example: I have a red 84 T-3 sitting in my shop right now. It belongs to a friend of mine. It is 100% original, factory tires, chain, brakes, right down to the antifreeze in the radiator. It is mint. People love to look at it, and it always is a conversation starter. But imagine if it were still in the crate. People would drool over and offer ridiculous money for it.....see my point ?

[Cuztom Racing]

I totally agree. keep it in the create. Its a frozed piece of time that you will never get back once put together. I hope a big named honda shop gets it or someone that will just put it on display.

[RacerRichie]

History in a capsule....... very nice ! wunder how many watchers on the auction?

[thestud25]

Billy, looks like several people agree with my price range!:lol:

[Billy Golightly]

I voted between 35 and 50k but it looks like I'm out numbered

[thestud25]

Let's hope for Andy you are right! Looks like the poll has taken off!

[rdlsz24]

Andy I won't ask what you paid for it, but are you hoping to turn a profit or just get your money back?

Rob

[oldskool83]

$35-50K, 7 days left at $17K already....double it. somone posted that on here last year i think if i remeber right. it should stay in the crate, better yet it should be incased in glass.

i am sure reserve is not under $20K

[Cuztom Racing]

History in a capsule....... very nice ! wunder how many watchers on the auction?

Im one....!

[Buster Brown]

498 watcher's. The views counter in not showing for me either currently???
I'm not looking to break even. To date this is still the only one known, and will most likely be the only one I'll ever own, so it needs to pop pretty good to sell. Enjoy!

[yooperman]

I'm on the list also. I wanna see what this bad boy goes for. One heck of a lucky guy to have owned it. if it was mine would have to be on stilts because of my drooling.

[blue27]

of course I am watching, and I can say I was the first bidder, but I will not be the last, I am not that big of a collector,lol. Good Luck!!

[wisconsinite]

498 watcher's. The views counter in not showing for me either currently???
4828 hits as of 6:30 tonight. i can tell you a few are mine. good luck getting your price :)

[D-dub]

498 watcher's. The views counter in not showing for me either currently???
I'm not looking to break even. To date this is still the only one known, and will most likely be the only one I'll ever own, so it needs to pop pretty good to sell. Enjoy!

cool! thanks for the inside info

[Greiver430x]

It has been mentioned several times. It seems you didn't even read this thread.
Easy man no I didnt read the WHOLE thread I was skimming. Didnt think I would upset anyone by asking......:rolleyes:

[inv3ctiv3]

This is crazy, once it sells Buster you gotta tell us if you made a profit ;) hahaha

[yooperman]

This is crazy!! 20k whoa

[honda200x1987]

I am totally stunned, wow!

[honda200x1987]

unbeleivable.....

[whyzee]

498 watcher's. The views counter in not showing for me either currently???
I'm not looking to break even. To date this is still the only one known, and will most likely be the only one I'll ever own, so it needs to pop pretty good to sell. Enjoy!

Thanks for the update B Brown !

[JayBone]

Buster is going to make a profit if he hasn't already as of 10:53 EST $20,153.00

[oldskool83]

i think its safe to say reserve is prob around 25K. im stick with that.

[JayBone]

25k was my guess also.

[oldgun]

I am thinking 25k also. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[82300R]

I know i looked at it earlier an it was 75 thousand. W.T.H.? Then i looked at again an it was back down again. Must have canceled the bid. Very interesting auction. Hope it doesn't end with some b.s.

[hell on wheels]

I saw it too upto $75,000!! And still the reserve had not been met! I think its all for entertainment now unfortunatly.

[portland250r]

holy crap why do all the nice trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro sell when i have no money?
when i got money and keep it theres nothing nice or collectable but as soon as i run out something has to pop up.

[portland250r]

it best be someone on here who buys it!
it would suck if it just went to someone who dont know about us.

[UndefinedT]

$35,100 current bid

11:38PM Pacific time, Tuesday October 5th, 2010.

[Billy Golightly]

Well its went higher quicker than I anticipated...

[JayBone]

I have my 85 200x for sale on ebay and i can't get 700 bucks. geez
It's out of control. Who was the guy who voted it would go over 100,000K ha ha!

I saw the 75k and thought you were gonna win the vote.

[hell on wheels]

75k and reserve not met! This Buster is fishing for big fish!! Now I see a lowered reserve. Hmmmm. is anyone going to take the bait now??? Remind you of the Z50 Chrome Specials?

[Buster Brown]

Just thought I'd share...... 9450 Views, & 790 watchers as of 9:30am WI.time
I lowered the reserve to a point that if it's met I will have seller's remorse.:eek::drool::cry::beer
The prospects of selling this are becoming as much of an amotional roller coaster ride as buying it was!
I really had no thought of it getting this high.
-Andy

[JayBone]

After this sale and the word spreads of the price you get. You will actually see how many are actually out there then.

[Buster Brown]

Jay Bone, I have had the same thoughts, and am thinking take the $$ before the possible flud comes (LOL)

Hell On Wheels, I know your displeasure and agree it looks fishy. In my opinion the Z50 & '88 TRX R auctions were definitively fixed and had shrill bids from "helpers". I have had a little bird even confirm this notion. But to nulify any possible slanderus coments here, these are just my opinions.
I have instructed all my family and friends to absolutely let this thing go it's own way with NO help. Believe me or don't. In the end I'll be able to sleep well, even if this all falls through!
Boy... the haters come out when things get good for someone else. I'm not referring to you Hell On Wheels, no worries bud! I totally understand where you're coming from. To the point that this is starting to bother me. My integrity is now coming into question over the "appeared" success of this auction. I don't know who these bidders are??? They may all be full of $n!+ for all I know. This is crazy to me too. Hope you all can give me the benefit of the doubt here. I'm an honest guy. I was recently over payed at UPS and now I'm returning a $3600 over payment from payroll. I turned myself in. Anyway, we'll see if this all comes true?? Ebay is so corrupt and easily massaged, so I'll never be able to prove to you guys I did this honestly. Enough said.

[whyzee]

Buster, having held the previous record for the highest sale price of a 250R on ebay and selling many, many beautiful ones. I would like to offer a little bit of my experiences when the bidding gets really high and you become uncomfortable yourself with the price. If you have a serious buyer who is calling you and speaking directly to you, ready to buy, I have had the best success with ending the auction early and selling it to someone ready and willing.
You could wind up with a deadbeat bidder in the end, and in that situation , when you relist, people become very very leary. I am sure Mike from VMS will back me up on this. You don't see any of his bikes on Ebay.
Wait until there are about 2-3 days left in the auction and then end it to a real buyer.
Or at the very least cancel all bids from people with less than 10 feedback or have them fax you how they plan on paying for it . You don't go into a Barret Jackson auction without a letter of credit from your bank with how much you are prequalified to spend
. If they really want it, they will pay up for it, but there becomes a point when the smart money knows they are being taken, and they walk away or offer half of what they were going too. Somebody already messed with the auction by finding out your reserve. In this case, take none of the bids serious until the reserve is met
Just my .02 cents

[oldskool83]

how is it that the highest bidder has 0 feedback....thats a huge red flag!

[Lord Letto 20]

i voted Between $50 and $100k due to it currently being at US $35,400.00 and reserve is still not met! currently showing 47 bids and 09772 Views on the counter on the bottom! 5 Days Left People! All i can say is HOLY trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro :w00t::w00t::w00t::drool::drool::drool:

[inv3ctiv3]

Yea unfortunately I believe that a lot of the bidding is people trying to see where the reserve is and/or will back out. Buster I bet you'd make more and have a more reliable seller outside of ebay.

[JayBone]

Who would ever think selling something would get so complicated. The last few posts bring up good points. I would stick with it at this point only because i'd be curious to see where it goes. If a serious buyer does contact you and can show they have money then unload it.

It's just an item. Can't get attached to it. You won't be attached to the money when it goes to whatever your plans are.

I think this is great to watch and it being so rare to see something like this makes my work day so much better. Plus if it really does sell it says people have money. Bank accounts are filling up and people are getting ichy to spend like they use too even though it's pretty bad out there for many people.

[Buster Brown]

how is it that the highest bidder has 0 feedback....thats a huge red flag!

I agree with you. Without getting to specific out of respect for the potential buyer, he or she's profile says they're from: United Arab Emirates and have been a member since 10/02/10. I thought of making members with a rating less than 10 prequalify, but this may shy them away as well, being hassled or insulted. I've had people call as far as Dubai. I'm amazed at the interest, but will wait to see who really has honest true intentions at the end. I may simply just keep this thing if my reserve is met and the winning bidder fails to fallow through. Just sit on it and ponder......then weed through the many calls of interest down the road. Who knows. I think my mind is getting the better of me here and I should sit back, calm down and enjoy the ride. I'll try to keep my comments brief and few here until this is over. Again, hope the many good people here can understand.
Thanks for all the kind words of congrats and helpful advise!
-Andy

[nd4speed]

For $35,000 + could one go locally where the bidder lives and file a lawsuit for breach of contract? Say you went to Southeby's auction and bid on everything, I think you would still be responsible for the debt or at least damages for the inconvenience. But, the reserve is not met yet?

Anyway, wow is that thing expensive! You could buy a house and a car in Michigan for that much.

[vintagemotorsports]

Hey Andy,
FYI that guy from Dubai if its the guy i have sold too is the real deal he is buying up all the nos 250r parts and paying all the money for them, take him seriously a buddy of mine just sold him a bike he had it shipped cost thousands of dollars to ship the guy didnt even flinch. I would imagine if someone is going to pull the trigger on this bike they will contact you directley . Good luck Im watching it !!! Mike

[Buster Brown]

Thanks, Mike. I really appreciate your heads up. I thought of calling you in regards to that gentleman, but well...... This is my battle to deal with and I didn't want to bother you. If this auction gets real ugly I may pull the plug. The big players will have saved my phone #. I have that guy's info from Dubai saved too. He was a treat to talk with. Again, thanks for the help! This is getting a bit overwhelming for a nubie seller of this caliber.

[vintagemotorsports]

your welcome . yea its a little overwhelming sometimes with this stuff and im sure you know by now all the haters will come out , alot of people out there dont like to see other people be succesfull at something and they want to express it . your right the people interested have your number bidding or no bidding they will contact you , a 7 day auction might have been better also to end it faster , you will be good .

take care Mike

[200x350xtriz250]

I think this is great!!! Its been cool to watch unfold and I am glad you put it up where we can all see it happen or not. I can't believe it is up that far, but good for you. As for the haters - just think there are probably 10 of us that are thrilled for you for every 1 hater. Good luck and thanx!!!!!

[skippy]

Andy, I have a friend in Dubai. He can also check into you buyer if you wish. He has all the necessary means! LOL PM me if you need a hand

[fabiodriven]

I just hope the guy doesn't put it together and ride it.

[thestud25]

I just hope the guy doesn't put it together and ride it.

Have you seen some of the cars they wreck and just walk away from? Unfortunately the 250r would be just a drop in the bucket to some of those oil tycoons!

[dksix]

I think this is awesome. I hope you make a great profit and can fund some killer builds with part of the proceeds. I'm glad that it was brought to our attention here so we could watch and speculate on the outcome. I'm sure that anyone who has that kind of money to spend will do more than just send an email and once you talk to them I'm sure your gut will tell you if you're dealing with a dreamer or someone who can't back up the bid. I've heard of some gun sales going to men in Aribd nations that was 2x what they would have brought in the US ( some of those guys like rare western guns as well ). I feel that just by watching the auction, I'm witnessing history in the making. It's not something I would buy, even if I had the money. I'm not a collector but it still excites me to see. I'm one of the watchers but I couldn't even dream of being a bidder. Once again, I wish you the best of luck and I hope it brings $100K.

[atc007]

Was gonna keep my mouth shut,and watch. Andy,,don't know ya,but what I have seen you have handled this in a VERY professional matter. Not easy to do ,,,as I am SURE you are finding out!! I am SOOOO happy to see this kind of money on this, My guess as to it's FINAL price was WAAAY off! I was sure I would own it,had NO doubt in my mind!! WOW, was I wrong!! I LOVE IT!! To see people be able to appreciate this,,,but to be able to put CASH where there heart is,is something I thought this great hobby woud not see in my lifetime, I know it will come,,but didn't know when . Anyhow,Good luck!! And keep your comments heavily edited! As you know! Thanx for the ride!

[factoryX]

35.5k!!! holy crap!

[UndefinedT]

Lot of money involved, cool item..but if I had the cash in hand, I wouldn't buy it.


I know alot of other people would, but dam I could do a hell lot more with $35k then 1 thing...that's just me though.


Sweet thread though, and to the guy who has it listed, GOODLUCK WITH EVERYTHING!

[cobrazilla]

I guess this auction is bringing our more gems

check these two babies up for sale now on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-and-1989-honda-250r-brand-new-never-used-/160490386447?pt=ATVs&hash=item255df8f40f#ht_500wt_1182

[factoryX]

I guess this auction is bringing our more gems

check these two babies up for sale now on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-and-1989-honda-250r-brand-new-never-used-/160490386447?pt=ATVs&hash=item255df8f40f#ht_500wt_1182

Good F***ing Luck....

[Mosh]

I guess this auction is bringing our more gems

check these two babies up for sale now on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-and-1989-honda-250r-brand-new-never-used-/160490386447?pt=ATVs&hash=item255df8f40f#ht_500wt_1182

Those are nice. But the one does not even have a chain on it?
For 85K you would think he would have more pics up. I dont think he really cares if he sells them.

I dont see those bringing even half that amount.

And a question for the R gurus..I thought ONLY the 89 had a key switch..Did the 88 have that too?

[D-dub]

Id rather give 85k for Busters ATC

[2Tim215]

I think without a doubt ATC history with this auction will be the talk of collectors, riders, etc. for years to come! Very interesting Auction. Also bet it will increase the interest in the hobby. I wish you well with this auction, glad to be able to see the photos etc.!!!

[factoryX]

there is a problem when a quad with less technology cost's 8 times as much as a new quad. The trike I could understand, but it is still ridiculous when 25 years ago these where 3-5 grand and with the trx250r being the all time atv(was the quad of choice from 1986 to 2003-5) and as many of them that sold I highly doubt that they are that rare yet. Maybe in new condition but not rare as a whole.


I think without a doubt ATC history with this auction will be the talk of collectors, riders, etc. for years to come! Very interesting Auction. Also bet it will increase the interest in the hobby. I wish you well with this auction, glad to be able to see the photos etc.!!!

This will drive the market price up thats for sure, which is good and bad.

[whyzee]

haha, those quads are 10 miles from my house. He wanted 10K for one of them when I talked to him. I posted it about a 1 1/2 yrs ago.

[Cuztom Racing]

Over 37k on the R and reserve not met?! WOW!

[Cuztom Racing]

haha, those quads are 10 miles from my house. He wanted 10K for one of them when I talked to him. I posted it about a 1 1/2 yrs ago.

If the bikes are what they say they are, they will bring 10k a piece easy but not 85k for both. He really is dreaming! It seems fishy because he didnt post hardly anything in the description or on there history or how he came about having them. And only 4 pics?! WTF

[Red Rider]

And a question for the R gurus..I thought ONLY the 89 had a key switch..Did the 88 have that too?Yep, it sure did!

[whyzee]

If the bikes are what they say they are, they will bring 10k a piece easy but not 85k for both. He really is dreaming! It seems fishy because he didnt post hardly anything in the description or on there history or how he came about having them. And only 4 pics?! WTF
Even when the market was HOT , i couldn't presell them for $12000 to try and make a few bucks. The guy used to own a Honda dealership and loved the trx's.

[crashcbr900rr]

85 Thousand?????? !!! I almost choked to death reading that. Some people are really getting nuts with this stuff. If he thinks they are THAT special, maybe he should see about putting them on Barrett Jackson. LOL :lol:

[tecat-z]

Those are nice. But the one does not even have a chain on it?
For 85K you would think he would have more pics up. I dont think he really cares if he sells them.

I dont see those bringing even half that amount.

And a question for the R gurus..I thought ONLY the 89 had a key switch..Did the 88 have that too?

Rob, the 87 TRX was the first to have a key to my knowledge. I had a beautiful all original 87 years ago. I hope this atc does get into the record books for sold value. You can be sure it will be kept in a time capsule forever for this kind of money. I wish you the best of luck in the sale, and keep us informed a bit on the purchaser, unless of course they choose to remain anonymous.

[Billy Golightly]

The TRX I had and completely thrashed was nicer than that one for 85k...you guys thought I was joking when I said I would put that trike together and ride it if I owned it....:lol:

[yj350]

Even when the market was HOT , i couldn't presell them for $12000 to try and make a few bucks. The guy used to own a Honda dealership and loved the trx's.

whyzee was the guys name Gus. If so I know the machines I have been up to his place before.

[falloutboy]

so apparently the reserve is in the neighborhood of $75k

[whyzee]

whyzee was the guys name Gus. If so I know the machines I have been up to his place before.

yes, that's him :)

[fabiodriven]

After reading some of the Q & A, I must applaud your patience Andy. I can say with the utmost confidence that my answers to these people would not be half as kind or thought-out as yours. I have no idea how you do it, but bravo my friend. Good luck with the auction.

[devilman]

After reading some of the Q & A, I must applaud your patience Andy. I can say with the utmost confidence that my answers to these people would not be half as kind or thought-out as yours. I have no idea how you do it, but bravo my friend. Good luck with the auction.

especially the guy that asked for the VIN to make sure it isn't stolen. what the hell. i was hoping you put this on to see what it would bring $ wise and to see what else might be out there. goodluck with it.

[Buster Brown]

Thanks for the props guys! I really apreciate the support!
The reserve is much less than 75K. The bidding is currently in the same decade. Hows that! I'm starting to crack............
I had it at 75K to start only to allow time and room to think things over. The new reserve will not be lowered. If it's not met, I'll keep the bike or sell it "off" ebay to someone for substantially more than what I am willing to let it go for on ebay. I don't know if the big players read posts here, but THEY SHOULD! Hope this drives a little more attention & traffic to this great site! Thanks to Billy, Mike @ VM and all the other kind administrators & members here! That all said, PLEASE still do not shill bid to "help this auction !!!!! Lets let nature take it's course.
I have incurred a great deal of debt in acquiring this crated R. I just had my third child, and as you may guess I feel guilty squandering away my family's future each time I look into my children's eyes. My wife has been a real trooper, but I need to see the big picture and not be too selfish. The sale of this trike will honestly go to paying off a lot of credit card debt and home equity credit. Those whom I've bought from know my spending gets the better of me at times! (LOL) Crap.... It still does. I put $777.77 on that CAL Fab the other night. Shame on me, need some serious help!


As for the '88 &'89 TRXs that have sprung up......
I have bought 2 Rs from Scott Jolicoeur (Lapeer, MI) aka "sajcorvette". He was one of the first to tell me I was out of my mind to pay 25K for the crated R. (now I'm really cracking!) Anyway... So now he is all hot and bothered and is following my lead. He claims to now have 10 new in the crate Banshees. Hmmm... Now that's an original idea. I wish him all the best with the Banshees.
Now after seeing all my fan fair on ebay he is flashing his jewelry to the world. Again, more power to him. The only issues I have are... One, someone's kind of ridding my coattails (bla bla..big deal) and two, he's misrepresenting what he has. I guess I should be flattered to have inspired him, but he should come clean on the details of these two TRX 250Rs.

The below statements are my true and honest beliefs, but are also my personal OPINIONS. I should be the bigger person here and take the high road, but I can't stand fibbers!

Two years ago I drove 8hrs one way to buy 2 TRX 250Rs from Scott (an'87 & an'89). Two close friends wanted to SEE the claimed "new" '88 &'89 250Rs, so they tagged along for the 16 hr ride. I was on a real drag that day coming off a 10hr shift driving the UPS semi all night. I picked up my two tag along buddies at 3:30am and drove straight all day to Lapeer,MI. My tag alongs were suppose to help drive, but instead got a case of beer at a truck stop when I got fuel. (great guys..huh??). We arrived early afternoon, and BS'ed with Scott for awhile, after inspecting & loading the TRXs I bought. Before we left I said we needed to see the "new" Rs or we would have to jump him. (just kidding of coarse). He grinned, and took us down to his basement. There they were in all their glory. We all were impressed to say the least, but as a builder I new right away they were not "new", bought from a dealer as he claimed. They are in my opinion very very nice "builds". Built during the years when a person could get ALMOST every part NEW still from a dealer. Scott has good connections with a dealership in MI from what he told me. I say ALMOST every part because he left tale tell signs of used parts on the bikes upon close inspection. For instance, the rear brake master cylinder on the '88 was worn from boot heel rubs and had signs of powder coating on certain parts. All very very NICE mind you, but not truly Honda factory new. The '89 had a seat with the stenciling worn slightly form what again he couldn't explain. If you notice from his posted pictures, the tires have stickers on them. Hmmm, I've bought a couple new ATVs before, but neither had stickered rubber. Those are part # foil stickers. Again top notch build job, but not assembled at the factory. He will say most likely that he replaced the tires due to old dry cracking. I can tell you first hand, the crated ATC 250R that I have has no dry cracking on the tires, even after 25years.... And this is no lie... He even went as far as to tell me and my two drunk friends that this particular '89 was the very last ever produced TRX250R to come off the assembly line at Honda. I know now you all are just thinking I'm being a jealous little girl, but I'm telling you the absolute truth. I just want people to know... Less anyone think these two Rs are brand spank'n new from Honda without ever having gas run in them. Not in my opinion. They are bar none the NICEST set of '88 & '89 TRX 250Rs I've ever laid eyes on, but were built with every part available from Honda at that time, with no expense spared. I suppose after spending a great deal of effort & $$ to build the machine of everyone's dreams it would be very tempting to call them new when 98% of the parts used in the builds were NOS. Just my .02 cents. Beware, he is a true salesman!
Incidentally, I found a couple hidden "fixes" and flaws on the two TRXs I bought that day, but they were good enough for restoration purposes. To Scott's credit, I brought my discovered issues with the bikes to his attention and he maid good on both accounts. I thought good of that , but wished my detective work hadn't pressured him into honesty. I could see the "Oh, $n!+" look in his eyes when confronted.
Sorry to be so long winded here. I hope I'm not coming off as a real douche bag. I guess I just needed to vent. Please someone buy those two R's so he will have bragging rights for eternity! After all, he is self proclaimed "the250Rgod" . The ego is too funny!
I also mentioned in an earlier post that a "little bird" had fessed to me that the Z50 auctions were a bit fixed. Scott sings like a canary! (LOL)
Scott, if you or your friends (helpers) read this I'm sorry to spill the beans. Just can't deal with the charades.

The End

[fabiodriven]

Wow. Interesting story to say the least.

All of that aside, I'm just going to say that I can't see a TRX getting near that money. They just don't have the nostalgia that an ATC does in my opinion. Again, that's just my opinion. Maybe there are some die-hard TRX guys out there that would disagree with me.

[Mosh]

Andy^^^ I wont quote you becuase it is just too much.

I KNEW the TRX's were not what he was stating.
I rember him rounding up parts for those and assembling them a few years ago.

They are "restorations" Not NEW NEVER RIDDEN.
I just didnt want to be the guy to spill the beans..lol

[Buster Brown]

Yes, I'll be burning a bridge over these last posts, but that's fine. I don't want any affiliation with their poor business practices.
Once you get a bad reputation in a small community it's extremely hard to win people's respect and trust again.
Thanks!

[inv3ctiv3]

Wow thanks for the backstory on those TRX's, I think I am just as excited as you too see where this auction goes! I was always curious what you paid too! I was hoping it was like $5,000 cause that would just be the ultimate right haha? I really hope you get the 75k you were originally hoping for, this is so cool and I hope people don't bid just to bid or back out.

[JayBone]

I'd figure for 85k on those quads you would get atleast free shiping. Cheapazz. haha j/k

I'd have very little emotion to such a toy with this kind of possible money on the line.

In 3 days 00 hrs you may or may not be the cool guy with the crated 250r. If it sells you will be just a plain old trike guy again, but who can sleep at night and has a really good story. That's still pretty cool.

[Dirtcrasher]

Great stuff Andy, I truly HATE anyone who claims NOS and it ends up being restored. Some restorations like yourself and Vintage Mike do along with many custom builds are fantastic; But to the collector, nothing but NOTHING is worth a trike in it's original crate and untouched. Imagine that as the centerpiece in someone's collection!!??

Untouched, unassembled and nothing newer in sight. There may be a few more, most of us are just ordinary hard working guys; We don't have the cash to shave a 25K machine in a corner but others can. Many entrepreneurs have the cash to do that, but not your typical 3WW member.

I hope you double your money or more and whoever sold it for what I "think" you paid for it, sold himself a bit short. But 1000$ and 10,000$ to different people are the same thing; We all live differently!

Good luck Andy!!

[oldskool83]

id like it but im not going to blow my savings on it...how ever i do have the funds for it yet. i do hope it goes to somone who really like these things not just hey look at me, my dad bought me this wanna touch it!

[whyzee]

Andy, your a good man !

[Meat-BoX]

I wonder how much that Tri-Z in that crate in Germany would go for? Or is it out of the crate now?:wondering Hagens?

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?92013-Check-this-sh*t-out!-86-Tri-z-still-in-crate-new.&highlight=hagen

[rdlsz24]

Good luck with the sale Andy. Good choice choosing family over toys. A couple years back I sold a car that said I never would sell as we had our first on the way and the money could be used for better things.

Rob

[taz]

man some body has some deep pockets that bike is over $42000 now

[1985ATC250R#155]

Yes, I'll be burning a bridge over these last posts, but that's fine. I don't want any affiliation with their poor business practices.
Once you get a bad reputation in a small community it's extremely hard to win people's respect and trust again.
Thanks!

Whats funny k10, is I remember hearing this story about you and your friends driving 8 hours, from him when I was trying to buy a "mint" low hour 88 250r. The steering stem was bent, the grab bar and rear frame was tweaked bad. The rear tires were holesots, not ohtsu's. These were just some of the Fishy signs that steered me away. The pics he sent of those 250rs looked awesome, and im sad to hear they arent what he said they are. Fishy for sure. Sounds like your a straight up dude. I got to tell you after reading that post about me on exriders I was pissed big time. I did respond, it isnt kind and I apologize.

[Slingblade]

This is just too cool. I remember as a kid seeing these crates in shelves at the dealership the day I got my 200x. My only hope- other than hitting the lottery before 10-11 at 12:00 pdt- is that the next guy that ends up with this is as good a person as Andy seems to be. Good Luck!

[Buster Brown]

Whats funny k10, is I remember hearing this story about you and your friends driving 8 hours, from him when I was trying to buy a "mint" low hour 88 250r. The steering stem was bent, the grab bar and rear frame was tweaked bad. The rear tires were holesots, not ohtsu's. These were just some of the Fishy signs that steered me away. The pics he sent of those 250rs looked awesome, and im sad to hear they arent what he said they are. Fishy for sure. Sounds like your a straight up dude. I got to tell you after reading that post about me on exriders I was pissed big time. I did respond, it isnt kind and I apologize.


The feelings mutual. I was being a bit of a pansy yesterday here and especially over at exriders.
I'm sorry for the strike on your good name and my jumping to conclusions. Water under the bridge as they say. (I hope)
I'm glad you put me in my place. Everyone needs to get knocked down at times. Maybe my head was getting too big. Can't wait till this is all over!
Wow... I'm glad you shared you experience, and had the smarts unlike me to walkaway. Thanks James!
Please except my apology as well !

[whyzee]

wow , this is getting ugly

[dcreel]

$49,975 now.. The reserve has been met. Go get 'em Andy.. Awesome...

[Buster Brown]

Well now now, I'm not feeling so bad about yesterday!(LOL)
OMG this has got me laugh'n! Noth'n better than a good argument when your not the one involved.
The heat's off me...................... Wahoo.
No, seirously. Lets all get along. (still laughing......)
No winners or loosers here just all hav'n fun I hope!
I think you two are kidding??? Hope so???
Anyway I don't know if it's the six pack here or just a good round of poking fun at one another. Too funny!

Really How could you be serious minty. I mean... Mike has done museum stuff.
Don't know what to say........
I know when I saw his work I knew I had to step up my game. Not to be in competition, (cuz nobody calls me for a full on restos, just some PC stuff on occasion), but for my personal projects and satisfaction! Mike is the guy to call for #1 grade A restoration. I could never do what he's done! Been tempted to use his services on a couple things for my bikes.

Like yesterday I was wrongly accusing someone in the open. Not cool. PM mike if you have a beef with him. Learn from my mistake.
Just came in for a beer.
Later, guys.

[Buster Brown]

.............Say what..... Reserve met???
Checking.........................

HOT DAM!!!!!
Well I'll get two beers!
Let the games begin.
Kinda sad all at the same time. Gana tie one on tonight.

I'll be :drool: in the morning! (that's not drool)

[RacerRichie]

yup reserve met..
Honey!!!!! check the balance in the home equity line.............
hahahaahahahah

[82300R]

How many more days till this fiasco is over?

[Billy Golightly]

I'm not gonna litter andy's thread with a discussion of what is and isn't the holy grail. look in the open forum for that thread.

[Buster Brown]

off to the open forum we go...........................

[mxnick]

"holy grail" is up to each and every person who is a fan of these little motorbikes. This 250r is certainly close to the "holy grail" for those who collect the finest examples of ATC history.

For some, it might be a Selvy 200r, for others, it might be a roached out 200s or atc 110.

Money spent on these items is an emotional spend -what pushes your buttons? Those who have it are free to spend it as they please, and free to buy up whatever vestiges of the past they want to...I think this auction is great, and establishes a precedent for the upper end collection market for ATC's, which is a fairly loose.

The more this bike sells for, the better. And for all those folks who seem upset or "just dont get it", then dont worry about it!

This isnt a bike that you need to think or worry about...but i am glad to see such strong interest towards this.

It will be interesting to see the final price, as well as whatever else comes out of the woodwork. I would guess there are others out there, but they are likely in the hands of folks who dont give a rats ass about ATC's (and thus done read this forum or travel in these social circles), but perhaps used to own a dealership or have some tie to the motorcycle business.

Good luck luck buster brown! I hope you kill it!

[dksix]

.............Say what..... Reserve met???
Checking.........................

HOT DAM!!!!!
Well I'll get two beers!
Let the games begin.
Kinda sad all at the same time. Gana tie one on tonight.

I'll be :drool: in the morning! (that's not drool)

Congrat's BB, I hope the last minutes of the auction produces a double up in the current bid. I've never seen anything like this or this kind of $$$ but I've seen many that went crazy in the final minutes and I hope this on does too.

[yooperman]

HOLY COW BATMAN!!! thats more then i paid for my house! big money is in this auction. way to go BB!! should help out the money situation for sure. i know i could use it lol. That rocks that you got to have part of history in your possesion.

[Lord Letto 20]

Time left: 17h 51m 27s
Bid history: 71 bids
Current bid: US $50,075.00

and i had voted 50-100K when it was around 35K!

[dcreel]

Somebody retracted their bid, or Andy retracted it for them.

[saladboy]

$50000 for trike,i love them as much as the next guy but that nutz!Is the guy selling this a member 3WW,after reading some of his Q&A on the bay seems kinda rude IMO.I would be concerned if i was buying it that its the real deal.

[dcreel]

$50000 for trike,i love them as much as the next guy but that nutz!Is the guy selling this a member 3WW,after reading some of his Q&A on the bay seems kinda rude IMO.I would be concerned if i was buying it that its the real deal.

He's a member, it's the real deal.. and Andy is a stand up guy. No worries there.

[Buster Brown]

$50000 for trike,i love them as much as the next guy but that nutz!Is the guy selling this a member 3WW,after reading some of his Q&A on the bay seems kinda rude IMO.I would be concerned if i was buying it that its the real deal.

Saladboy

Sorry if I'm coming off rude with the Q & As. Maybe I'm just getting burnt out here. Trying to stay humorous about this with a hint of sarcasm. I think you'd understand if you had to reply to some of these questions. Yha, I know....... Wine wine..... 50K I should just be humble. I SHOULD! And I am really, but just trying to make it a little fun to read. Many have said this has been half the fun of the auction??????
Sorry bud!

[Buster Brown]

He's a member, it's the real deal.. and Andy is a stand up guy. No worries there.

Thanks,man!
Appreciate the props!!

[trikeman78]

I took the day off work today just to watch the auction end. My guess is it will hit $60,000. Good luck Andy. The roller coaster ride is almost over. Did you sleep out in the garage with it last night? I would have.:D

[Buster Brown]

Ha Ha, no... I didn't sleep out there, but I really didn't sleep much at all. Finally gave up answering ebay messages and emails at midnight, and my kids woke me up here at about 8:00. I guess that's not too bad for a nights sleep, but I feel wasted here...... Maybe the emotions and sellers remorse is setting in. A spike in price would ease my pain, but please just leave this one be (on it's own).
Keep'n my fingers crossed! Glad the auction's almost over.

[yooperman]

I wouldn't even go in the house lol. I would eat,sleep, talk to it lol. I would cry when it leaves then smile when I had the money. There would be armed gaurds gaurding the garage if it was in mine lol. You gotta be a wreck BB I would be but I give you lots of respect, because your doing every thing for a honorable reason.

[rdlsz24]

I took the day off work today just to watch the auction end.

Are you kidding me? lol

Rob

[ForeverThreeWhe]

Good luck from Australia too Andy. We're watching it closely over here aswell mate.

[whyzee]

I just pray the bidders have the cash and are not going to ruin a great auction at the last minute ! so far the high bidder has ALOT of great feedback and seems serious. GO BBROWN !!!!

[harryredtrike]

with 4 hrs to go ,it's the most exciting time.still at 50,000 we will see how high it goes.i hope it all pans out with a legitimate buyer.

[82300R]

I am watching it too. Little over an hour to go.

[whyzee]

I am watching it too. Little over an hour to go.

crunch time coming !!!

[Buster Brown]

I was just telling this bit of disappointing news to DC.
The current high bidder wants out! He messaged me about 2 hours ago and claims since he was out bid for a little while (before the last retraction) he moved on in his mind and invested his money in "gold". WTF!! Sound like BS to me .....GOLD???
So..... I told him what ever, "OK, I guess??" What the hell......
Regardless, I won't be selling this to anyone who all of a sudden doesn't want it. I may want to beat them like a red headed step child, but I don't want this gem in the hands of anyone who is less than THRILLED to be the winner. I'm not going to remove him though, because everyone will cry fowl and ebay may see this as an attempt to elude reserve fees. I just hope it jumps up at the end!

Funny how the pole here has made a slight swing......UP!
Also wondering how many snipes might be waiting in the weeds til the last few seconds. I guess if you have the 50K to spend a little snipe fee is nothing. (LOL)
Give me a beer!..UG!

[trikeman78]

Yep. Sure did. I got a cold beer in hand.:p 45 min. to go. This is better than watching the ball drop in Times Square on New Years!

[tommerp]

I'd hold his feet to the fire.. a bid is a bid...

[Buster Brown]

OMG, funny.
Seriously, on on my second one. Just need to relax the nerves. Can't take this..........

[82300R]

I'd hold his feet to the fire.. a bid is a bid...

So true!..........

[Buster Brown]

I'd hold his feet to the fire.. a bid is a bid...

With ebay, how do ya do that? I mean I'm not going to hire a lawyer & try to make a guy buy something I cherish, that he no longer wants.
I'll bet he too has huge dreams like many and just had a reality check. COLD FEET!
I'll just keep it before I FORCE someone to pay up. If they really care about this like they should they'll gladly hand over the greenbacks!
I'm not going to let it go like that. I'll get a bunch of peanut butter, jelly, bread, macaroni& cheese...... you get the picture!:D

[Buster Brown]

I'm going to cancel the top bidder who wants out. here are the names of all that retracted and the latest to bail. I can't completely lash out at this Norm guy. He has a point kinda?? Anyway Ebay reserve fees are insane and I don't want to hassle with them after the fact. Just hop'n like hell it spikes here in the last seconds!

norm-6828 ( 247Feedback score is 100 to 499)
foxwoodop ( private )
hobbys4all ( 1016Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
printconnections ( 1 )
thump4863 ( 267Feedback score is 100 to 499)

[thestud25]

Best of Luck!!!! I am eagerly watching the countdown. I hope it hits 80k!!

[thestud25]

You need to post on here everyone that has backed out or jacked the price and withdrew!!!!

[snakpacs]

Yep. Sure did. I got a cold beer in hand.:p 45 min. to go. This is better than watching the ball drop in Times Square on New Years!

so true! were all watching at work.

[ATCT]

It lost bids and is now under the reserve with 8 min left.

[andrew j hyman]

You need to post on here everyone that has backed out or jacked the price and withdrew!!!!

He should

[tommerp]

Dude... that sux

Are you sure you aren't getting played by frill bidders working together?

[snakpacs]

4 min, think someones gonna take it at the last second?

[Mosh]

I'm going to cancel the top bidder who wants out. here are the names of all that retracted and the latest to bail. I can't completely lash out at this Norm guy. He has a point kinda?? Anyway Ebay reserve fees are insane and I don't want to hassle with them after the fact. Just hop'n like hell it spikes here in the last seconds!
I call total stinking BS on that crap..

My response would be "yeah I wll pull your bid. Right after you paypal me 100$ for the trouble"

Seriously. What kind of a moron do you have to be to throw down 50K$ bids and then have second thoughts?
But to be talking numbers this high, you would have to 100% sure before you hit the submit bid button.

I could see someone doing this at the 1000$ auction, just because you will have more people bidding which would invite more questionable people in.


Does this guy go to Vegas, bet 20K on the craps table then pull out, when the dice are floating thru the air?

I would report that crap!

[Buster Brown]

He should

I did look above.

[thestud25]

How many watchers??

[tommerp]

Ok.. at least your reserve is still back on... :)

[tommerp]

Booooooooooooo!!!!

[thestud25]

Damn too Bad!

[jeopardy98]

Well that was anti-climactic...

[chrisand4]

I can't believe how many people pulled out, I really thought it was going to sell...

[luke]

Truely Gutted

[harryredtrike]

what a bummer,all that for not.very anticlimactic

[JayBone]

lol yeahs it was. i was hoping for several bids the last second

[rdlsz24]

So now what? I'm guessing you will get offers outside feeBay?

Rob

[spoon]

i watched. Looks like she's a keeper. I wonder how many post auction offers you get now.

[thestud25]

Now all the splender is over. At the end of the day, you still have the rarest trike I have ever seen. "Pauses and waits for a certain someone to chime in and berate me for my opinion!"

[saladboy]

Why would you accept a bid retraction with 12min to go,I would not have.Sorry you did get a sale,I was hoping it would have gone over 75k.

[trikeman78]

Wow! Not the way I thought it was going to end. But thats good ol e-bay for ya. If you ask me, the winner is YOU Andy! You get to keep it. And now you know the market value.
Cheers!!! And heres to you. Great show

[saladboy]

Well if you sell outside the bay look at all the savings in fees.

[82300R]

Well if i ever hit the powerball i'll give ya 50k! Hey you never know! lol!!!!!

[Mr_RPM]

44,600.00 and the reserve is not met? dayum! lol

[Buster Brown]

She's a keeper! Well my phone is already ringing, but WHAT EVER! They all had a crack at 50K. I'm actually happy. Yes, my wife is bummed, but now she too knows we have a good investment. I think I'm going to take a few days to ponder before entertaining any off ebay offers. The worst way this could have gone in my eyes was to have just made reserve and that's it. I now appreciate even more what I have. Granted I'd been happy to get a financial bailout so to speak, but it just wasn't meant to be. I can pull the nose up on this deal, just need you all to help me.... Please don't sell anything to me anymore! Block my ebay name on all your accounts! LOL HA Ha ha!
No more purchases!

[tommerp]

It's definitely better than Gold, Andy. As far as we know, it's a One-Off. I figured its value way above 50K anyway. Keep it in the plywood box and look at it every 5 years or so.... LOL

[2Tim215]

As a buyer and seller of Gold and Silver myself I can honestly say I really doubt this bidder chose Gold over this investment. Look at what you paid and where it went and the time frame involved. Gold is at an all time record breaking high! $1352.77 an ounce right now!!! That is no time to buy, that is time to sell! Gold jumped approx. 100.00 in the last 30 days, I hope it does go higher but I wouldn't buy at this current trend. At least Andy this gives you a pretty good idea that you did very well on your investment! Hope all turns out well for you and your family. Bidders have been blocked on my eBay account!

[atc007]

This thread"anyone got the MONEY to back it up?" I didn't think there was,but was def caught up in the ride! Actually THINKING our very RARE machines would actually be wanted by others.. Thanx again for the ride!

[jeffatc250r]

Not how i thought it would of panned out, i really thought it would hit 60k plus.
I wouldnt be too bummed, atleast you know you can double your money on it if you absolutely had to sell it, the longer it sits in your garage, the more it will be worth in the future.

[whyzee]

i was afraid of ebay bidders, but I have a feeling you will get a really decent offer off Ebay. An offer too good to refuse from your original investment ;)

[hell on wheels]

As a buyer and seller of Gold and Silver myself I can honestly say I really doubt this bidder chose Gold over this investment. Look at what you paid and where it went and the time frame involved. Gold is at an all time record breaking high! $1352.77 an ounce right now!!! That is no time to buy, that is time to sell! Gold jumped approx. 100.00 in the last 30 days, I hope it does go higher but I wouldn't buy at this current trend. At least Andy this gives you a pretty good idea that you did very well on your investment! Hope all turns out well for you and your family. Bidders have been blocked on my eBay account!

Hell For 50 Grand! You can probably have a 250r 24k gold plated!! Now there you go! Custom! How many troy ounces would that take?

[Buster Brown]

Thanks guys. Off ebay offers will have to be as you said YZ "too good to refuse", after all this craziness. They all had their fare chance at it.

Boy, this thing really $n!+ the bed at the end..........
Just to clear up any confusion here's how things spiraled down. The bidder at $50,075. pulled his bids by his own retraction yesterday. This left the underlying bidder at $49,975. the exposed new high bidder, and the only bidder left to have made a bid that broke the reserve threshold. He messaged me through ebay and my email today saying after he was outbid at just under 50K he gave up and moved on. He and is brother have supposedly invested in gold (OK???). I told him I wasn't going to remove his bids. After some thought I figured trying to get my final value fees recouped from ebay might be an uphill battle if he was left as the final bidder, and we didn't complete the sale. I think that would've been about $1650.00 (@3.3%). Please correct me if I'm wrong. So I at 20min. left decided to cancel his bids to play it safe. Anyway, regardless of his excuse, if he doesn't want it, I want it. I'm not THAT hungry for money that I'm going to force him or sue to get the cash. I think we all want to see this bike in friendly hands and not immediately pawned yet again. I do wish ebay would overhaul their bid retraction poilicy, though. I really though it would've spiked a few bids at the very last minute. This hole thing had many hard decisions, but in the end I am thrilled to still be the owner.
I'll get off my soapbox now and take a breath.

[crazyflights]

I think If you can make do with out the money u invested and hold onto it for another 10 years, try again.. You will make some bank on it. Side note, I and friends have really enjoyed this auction and discussing outcome and how crazy it all is, 1 friend of mine said his dad and brother bought some new and had them in crates but off course the were taken out to get used, kinda funny thoe if they woulda known.

[Orangecnty250r]

Man I have to say that was a disappointing and anticlimatic ending!!!! Glad you still have it Andy but I'm sure offers will roll in. That is one machine someone will "just have to have" .....just apparently not the two guys that got cold feet.

[Dirtcrasher]

Why would you accept a bid retraction with 12min to go,I would not have.Sorry you did get a sale,I was hoping it would have gone over 75k.

All the bidder has to do is cry to EBAY, the bid and Andys fees would remain yet the bidder would back out of the "Ebay" contract. Ebay just wants their money.......

Better yet he could pay the fees and a lawyer to handle this but I've seen it in business and loans; the man would claim "I can only pay 10$ a month......"

It was better to cut him loose at his request than sweat out the next few days/emails etc; IMHO

[oldskool83]

try again in 10 years...id bet it would easy hit 75K then.

[dcreel]

Honestly Andy, I'm glad it's still in your hands. If you choose to sell outside of Ebay you will have a much better chance of ensuring its future.

[tundrawillie]

So typical. People bidding on a $50,000 item that couldn't afford $50.00. Alas, the golden calf remains in the tabernacle.

[Eric250R]

I have to agree with Dcreel, I'm sorry you didn't get your money, but just the same I"m really glad you still have it. My worst fear was that some really rich douche would end up with it only to open it and ride it. I really want to see this stay in the crate. If you do sell it in the future, I hope it's to someone who will appreciate it for what it is.

[mxnick]

Well, if you makes you feel any better, that guy selling the TRX quads now has them listed at $125,000 fXXXing thousand dollars.

I am sure he will get that price...any...day...now...

bahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah

Really?

[ceaserthethird]

She's a keeper! Well my phone is already ringing, but WHAT EVER! They all had a crack at 50K. I'm actually happy. Yes, my wife is bummed, but now she too knows we have a good investment. I think I'm going to take a few days to ponder before entertaining any off ebay offers. The worst way this could have gone in my eyes was to have just made reserve and that's it. I now appreciate even more what I have. Granted I'd been happy to get a financial bailout so to speak, but it just wasn't meant to be. I can pull the nose up on this deal, just need you all to help me.... Please don't sell anything to me anymore! Block my ebay name on all your accounts! LOL HA Ha ha!
No more purchases!

About Time you stop hoarding all the rare part's, I might have a chance to buy a Nice Swing Arm !

Did you get the 250R Cal Fab Swing Arm in ? ? ? ( Nice Snag )

[rdlsz24]

I plan on winning the lottery mega millions soon; I will give you your asking price then :naughty:

Rob

[atc007]

I emailed that douche bag about his SOOOOOOO blatantly USED quads... he said they never came out of the crate with a chain on them. While he MIGHT be correct on the TRX's,I KNOW better on all the ATC"S and motorcycles.. I thought I heard somewhere he was a former Honda dealer??? !!! Some dealer he must have been? All of these chains are endless,not to say that the dealers didn't have to do them. But I am 99.99% sure they were on from Honda.. Completely pointless anyhow.. Anyone that has been around these, takes ONE glance at those machines ,,KNOWS they are NOT new!! Period. Very nice and def worth somewhere in the $10000 range for the pair. Or maybe I"M wrong and my 87 ATC's are worth hundreds of thousands!! I have stickers from new Hondas I can hang on the bars!! Takes ALL kinds.

[factoryX]

so random.......

[Donzi26zx]

I have to say that the bikes are new and I have seen them in person. He might have taken the chains off so nothing rubs I am not sure. The 89 was the last one produced from Honda and he has a letter from the tech at Honda stating it was the last one ever built. These bikes are definately worth some cash, not saying they are worth the asking price but he figures that if a crate hits $50K then these bikes are worth more. Andy knows this guy as well and bought his 250TRX's from him. I want to see someone buy the 1986 crate bike and put it in a museum where it belongs.

[Buster Brown]

Nope I mist out on the CAL FAB. Sniped it at $777.77 (wasn't such a lucky #) My snipe never had a chance. I did get the SELVY pipe and silencer though.

[Buster Brown]

I have to say that the bikes are new and I have seen them in person. He might have taken the chains off so nothing rubs I am not sure. The 89 was the last one produced from Honda and he has a letter from the tech at Honda stating it was the last one ever built. These bikes are definately worth some cash, not saying they are worth the asking price but he figures that if a crate hits $50K then these bikes are worth more. Andy knows this guy as well and bought his 250TRX's from him. I want to see someone buy the 1986 crate bike and put it in a museum where it belongs.

Hey, Don. Don't know if you get to exriders much, but Scott was discussed a bit over there too. You seem like a nice guy, and I don't mean to offend or slam you. Take this as my honest true opinions and judge for yourself.
Those bikes are extremely nice, but are in no way actually straight from the dealer new. Unless you consider an entire bike bought through a close family dealership's parts department in the 90's, then assembled at someone's home, to be the last ever produced "NEW" TRX 250R ever built. That's what he has there. I've seen them in person too. New bikes come with chains and don't come with stickered tires, worn paint, and scuffed seats. They were built by the best bull $h!t artist on the planet with no expense spared. BUT, they are simply awesome builds, with a false story. The supposed paper work I saw at Scott's was something anyone with a lot of time on their hands could print up, kinda similar to the reprinted brochures and decals available on ebay today. You know how good some of these reproductions are being made now'a days (very hard to distinguish) Well, official looking Honda letters can be made as well. The tech that assembled the R's is Scott, and he fabed the Honda memos too! Scott can weave a tall tale. Don't feel bad, they look real good, but you can trip Scott up if your on your game. Believe me this is not jeliousy comming out , but just the truth as I believe it to be. He has the nicest and closest to being NOS '88 &'89 TRX 250Rs I've EVER seen!
During this auction an ebay member has messaged me twice in regards to sending pictures of his claimed '89 TRX 250R in the crate. Hope to see it some day! But till then Scott's two are my favorites! Just wish he was more honest.

[Buster Brown]

Sorry for being a post whore here today, but thought some of you might enjoy this late message entry in my ebay mailbox.

More sewage from the cesspool of ebay. Here is a pasted quote from a lovely gentleman whom didn't care for the R auction. I have only edited his curse words. Below it then was my reply. Sorry if this is to negative or just plain boring, but this is a prime example of what I had to deal with during the auction. I'll be adding 386theresa to my block list. (oops! I meant to say "melted down over 20 years ago" in my reply)


Dear k10seibel,

"Yeah to all you brain dead ATC 250r f**k heads out there, that say they know 250r's, if you know so much, why is a 1986 atc 250r engine black. Only 1985 250r engines are black. Take a closer look at the pic and you'll see what i'm talking about.

P.S. Someone that has a product this long, should have the title too."

- 386theresa





Dear 386theresa,

Fist off, no need for foul remarks potty mouth!
Second the pictures show "if YOU look close" a grey metallic '86 ATC engine. I should know the color, as I own it, regardless of the poor lighting in the photos! And Why do you think there's no title Sherlock. It was not suppose to "exist". They chopped all remaining ATC Rs up in 87. How do you expect to have a paper trail of something that should of been chopped up, scraped, and melted down over 210 years ago! Ya dope! I'll post your wise remarks on the various message boards with your ebay name for others to judge or "BLOCK". Good Day!

- k10seibel

[rdlsz24]

lol what a tool. Do you have any more you can post? I'm sure your inbox was flooded during this adventure

Rob

[thestud25]

I'll post your wise remarks on the various message boards with your ebay name for others to judge or "BLOCK". Good Day!

- k10seibel

People like this need to be blocked. He had no reason to message that. Just pure jealousy!!

[Jerm1179]

I SAID GOOD DAY! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJROW6cuEM&feature=related

[Fungo Wizard]

BB,

I don't personally know you, but I do feel bad for you that you had to deal with all the morons during this process. It is obvious you have a very unique, sought after item, and clearly some people can't seem to handle it. I am glad you have kept a sense of humor through this all, and wish you the best of luck with what ever you do with it. When I hit the powerball tomorrow night, I will be driving up to pick it up with 100,000 in my hand for you. Keep your fingers crossed I hit the powerball! LOL!

[thestud25]

BB,

I don't personally know you, but I do feel bad for you that you had to deal with all the morons during this process. It is obvious you have a very unique, sought after item, and clearly some people can't seem to handle it. I am glad you have kept a sense of humor through this all, and wish you the best of luck with what ever you do with it. When I hit the powerball tomorrow night, I will be driving up to pick it up with 100,000 in my hand for you. Keep your fingers crossed I hit the powerball! LOL!
Ha you wish! I am winning the P-Ball and Mega-Millions!!!

If you win, maybe you can pay someone to teach you how to ride!!

[Fungo Wizard]

Ha you wish! I am winning the P-Ball and Mega-Millions!!!

If you win, maybe you can pay someone to teach you how to ride!!

I am not going to have to know how to ride, cause I will be sitting in my living room staring at a crated 250R!!!!!!

[thestud25]

HAHA, when we going to ride my new place?

[Fungo Wizard]

Soon, I need to get the carb on the R cleaned and get her running and take her out.

[Xpress]

Good thing you kept it. Save it for another 20 years, then relist it when ebays bid retraction system isn't all jacked up.

[atc007]

Hey, Don. Don't know if you get to exriders much, but Scott was discussed a bit over there too. You seem like a nice guy, and I don't mean to offend or slam you. Take this as my honest true opinions and judge for yourself.
Those bikes are extremely nice, but are in no way actually straight from the dealer new. Unless you consider an entire bike bought through a close family dealership's parts department in the 90's, then assembled at someone's home, to be the last ever produced "NEW" TRX 250R ever built. That's what he has there. I've seen them in person too. New bikes come with chains and don't come with stickered tires, worn paint, and scuffed seats. They were built by the best bull $h!t artist on the planet with no expense spared. BUT, they are simply awesome builds, with a false story. The supposed paper work I saw at Scott's was something anyone with a lot of time on their hands could print up, kinda similar to the reprinted brochures and decals available on ebay today. You know how good some of these reproductions are being made now'a days (very hard to distinguish) Well, official looking Honda letters can be made as well. The tech that assembled the R's is Scott, and he fabed the Honda memos too! Scott can weave a tall tale. Don't feel bad, they look real good, but you can trip Scott up if your on your game. Believe me this is not jeliousy comming out , but just the truth as I believe it to be. He has the nicest and closest to being NOS '88 &'89 TRX 250Rs I've EVER seen!
During this auction an ebay member has messaged me twice in regards to sending pictures of his claimed '89 TRX 250R in the crate. Hope to see it some day! But till then Scott's two are my favorites! Just wish he was more honest.

While I am overwhelmed with family these days.... I must confess to collecting these for absolutely NOTHING!! But the Love I have for the days when my Dad,Brother and I would go to the dealers and pick out our HARD earned prizes. We sweat blood for what we have and I have an eye that astounds most.. ONE glance at those bikes,,,B O T H OF THEM . They WERE NOT assembled at the Factory,,,or the crates were dropped in water and Quickly dried out. Anyhow,i've seen Andy's story about this ,and absolutely BELIEVE EVERY word that's came out of his mouth. SO if you've seen them in person Donzi..... I'm trying to remain respectful here,,but for you to come on here and try and tell me their legit,,,when I can spot them a MILE away,,With those pi$$ pour pics..... You must not have looked to closely. Were the shockwears factory,or does he just like the looks of them covering the beautiful bright red springs and shiny virgin chrome?... Give me a break!

[blue27]

I emailed that douche bag about his SOOOOOOO blatantly USED quads... he said they never came out of the crate with a chain on them. While he MIGHT be correct on the TRX's,I KNOW better on all the ATC"S and motorcycles.. I thought I heard somewhere he was a former Honda dealer??? !!! Some dealer he must have been? All of these chains are endless,not to say that the dealers didn't have to do them. But I am 99.99% sure they were on from Honda.. Completely pointless anyhow.. Anyone that has been around these, takes ONE glance at those machines ,,KNOWS they are NOT new!! Period. Very nice and def worth somewhere in the $10000 range for the pair. Or maybe I"M wrong and my 87 ATC's are worth hundreds of thousands!! I have stickers from new Hondas I can hang on the bars!! Takes ALL kinds.

I have the set up manual for the 88 and 89 TRX250R ( i worked at a Dealer for 6 years)and it came with a chain on the bike, I can scan pics if needed

alot of the bikes came with endless chains, but the TRX250r may not have, they are showing a masterlink on the parts diagram.

[atc007]

All of them we saw/ worked on were endless. 86 thru 89. Dead horse at this point. This guy is advertising BRAND NEW machines. I hope some sheek buys them ,,then shows him the realities of lying! Ship emall the way over there,, only to find out what he REALLY bought! Nuff said