1987 honda 250r

[Donzi26zx]

Here is a guy selling a 1987 Honda 250R, claims he got it out of Canada. I think he is smoking some serious crack!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150521103374&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[rdlsz24]

Grabbing my popcorn now, and will watch how this plays out lol

Rob

[Dirtcrasher]

I sent him a message explaining what a real 87 would be worth in terms of his time and effort. We'll see if he replies or posts my message. I imagine MAIER made both the shrouds and headlight in white or they are merely painted. Trikes may still have sold in Canada in 1987 but I'll bet it was an 86 that a dealer was happy to sell off. We shall see as if it were a true 87 there would be far more pictures and partial serial numbers in the auction. I explained to him in the message a few of the proper parts an 87 250R would have in a nice, friendly way............. But, I also explained that they need proof by serial numbers and that just because it was sold in 87 means nothing. We wanna see the 87 "A".

Glad he changed it to "race plastic" :lol:

[Donzi26zx]

He responded to me and said it would be false advertising if it wasn't a 1987 and I asked for more pictures and got none. I also asked him for the serial # off the motor and he had no response andclaims he has 50 of the same emails. Amazing!

[thestud25]

I sent him this email:
Does it have a keyed ignition? If not what happened to it? Can you get a pick of the VIN Badge on the neck? It should have the VIN, date of Manufacturing, as well as the exact model. Did you recover the seat? Not to be a pain, just need to have these questions answered before I bid.

[tri-z987]

why is the gastank white...more i look at it everything looks painted...frame, swinger, plastic, radiator guards...if it was an "'87" is as about worthless now...well as good as an '85/86 R

[fabiodriven]

I have gone back and forth with him a couple of times. He has no idea what he's talking about. I was very nice and cordial with him and he got nasty. I think we may be upsetting him.

[thestud25]

I just ran the VIN he gave me and it comes up 1986 Unknown Honda Atc. Check for yourselves boys!!!

jh3tbo7o5gc504408

[fabiodriven]

Yup, I just did the same thing.

[Fungo Wizard]

Cut to the chase and ask for a pic of the keyed ignition!

[Donzi26zx]

Yeah I saw the Vin as well, that bike is crap, he is an idiot!

[tri-z987]

i ran the vin # & it came back as an '86...



"hahahahaha lmao yea right.then i guess the dmv is wrong right.I have the paper in hand says what it is.so whatever.nice try...i wouldnt advertise something that it is not...But i call and confirm again.But i dont belive there mistaken,thanx"

[thestud25]

His Reply:

Dear thestud25,

I bought trike in a mess.
he plastic was cracked and faded.the vin on the frame says...jh3tbo705gc504408..the stickers and all was missing when i found it in quebec.it sat in a storage unit for sometime.so i put it together and took it to the dmv here in az.and the state it is in fact a 1987 250r.and gave me a notorised bill of sale.so thats what the title will say.It is missing some parts like key switch and a feww other things.the guy i bought from has two of these bikes.but i think the other one is a 85.but we will see..

[Fungo Wizard]

Okay, so under this guys idea of an 87 250R, I have a red 87 250R for sale now. Everything on it appears to be an 86, but Stud notorized a piece of toilet paper saying it is an 87! I will start the bidding at 1 Billion dollars!!!!!

[250esbigredNY]

that bike is piece of trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro and it's fake, no REAL 1987 250R model either at all!! what a joke! I sold my two mint 1987 ATC200x & 1987 ATC250sx.

[thestud25]

Garry, I will notorize a squirrel pelt if you cut me in on the billion dollars.

[TrickyDickII]

Garry, I will notorize a squirrel pelt if you cut me in on the billion dollars.

And I'll witness for another cut. :)

[Fungo Wizard]

If it truly is an 87, he should change his rare title to one-of-a-kind. I bet it is a piece also. Just look at it and then no close up pics? Awful suspicious!

[cbx1170]

8 th Digit from last in Vin is an "h" in Ebay listing somehow?????? mysteriously changed to "g" in his responses. h = 87 nonexistent g = 86 lots of them. Do I detect an attempt to "mask" the truth? HmMMMMMM.....

[Fungo Wizard]

Deal! Both of you are in, now we just need a sucker, I mean buyer!!!

[fabiodriven]

8 th Digit from last in Vin is an "h" in Ebay listing somehow?????? mysteriously changed to "g" in his responses. h = 87 nonexistent g = 86 lots of them. Do I detect an attempt to "mask" the truth? HmMMMMMM.....

Did he really do that? What a scumbag...

[dksix]

That's an awesome find. A documented 87 250R with all the upgrades you would want, if you were lucky enough to own a documented 87R. Read the add: RACE PLASTIC, got rid of that low end OEM stuff. AFTER MARKET wheels, I know you guys always put after market wheels on your trikes cause the OEM's are weak and bend. Best of all it's got an keyed iginion delete. Who wants a keyed ignition on a race trike???? Keys just get lost. I'll bet it was done right too. I'd even bet you couldn't find where the plug was on the wiring harness for the keyed ignition. You all are just hating on him cause he's got a documented 87R and you don't.

[thestud25]

That's an awesome find. A documented 87 250R with all the upgrades you would want, if you were lucky enough to own a documented 87R. Read the add: RACE PLASTIC, got rid of that low end OEM stuff. AFTER MARKET wheels, I know you guys always put after market wheels on your trikes cause the OEM's are weak and bend. Best of all it's got an keyed iginion delete. Who wants a keyed ignition on a race trike???? Keys just get lost. I'll bet it was done right too. I'd even bet you couldn't find where the plug was on the wiring harness for the keyed ignition. You all are just hating on him cause he's got a documented 87R and you don't.

No, I have an 87R as well. They are popping up everywhere. Mine came in some silly wooden box with a cardboard Honda covering. It sure was a pain in the ass to put it all together. I got a deal from the guy since it was un-assembled. The shrink wrap on the plastics and what not was hard to take off. I kept the keyed ignition on mine though. I like the security it brings.

I am also getting a 87 350x as well. I will be parting it immediately because I have no use for it......


I cannot believe some of these idiots!

[MonroeMike]

8 th Digit from last in Vin is an "h" in Ebay listing somehow?????? mysteriously changed to "g" in his responses. h = 87 nonexistent g = 86 lots of them. Do I detect an attempt to "mask" the truth? HmMMMMMM.....

Revision summary for item #150521103374
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=150521103374

[thestud25]

Revision summary for item #150521103374
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=150521103374

So he originally had it as 86 Vin then changed it to 87?

[tri-z987]

he sent me this about 2hours ago..

"Well i called the dmv.and now they tell me they made a mistake on the vin number so heres the right vin number sorry about that,so now i have run down to the dmv again and get the proper paper work now. so run this number and let me know..sorry...jh3tbo705hc504408"

[Dirtcrasher]

I've gone back and forth with him, this was the latest:

Dear bighair838383,

The hell with the DMV. If you know it's worth $$$$$$$$$$$ then add the critical pictures/serial numbers and people will bid. I'd think you'd already have them on EBAY unless it's not an 87? Otherwise, your probably looking at 1500$ or so. False advertising just means a long battle and a refund...... You aren't gonna get bids based on the DMV, IMHO....... Good luck!

Why can he not just post some engine numbers/pictures of broken plastic - anything??

1986 for the 200th time in the last 20 years :lol:

[Honda250ES]

Dude's I don't want to start a WAr on here but In CANADa we did get the 250R in 1987 I know I rode my friends in the pits many time and his bros had a 350x but not sure on the year of the 350x
but Im 100% sure that we got many 250R in 1987

[thestud25]

Dude's I don't want to start a WAr on here but In CANADa we did get the 250R in 1987 I know I rode my friends in the pits many time and his bros had a 350x but not sure on the year of the 350x
but Im 100% sure that we got many 250R in 1987

This comment means nothing without PICS to prove it. There have been soooo many claims that people have owned, riden, seen, whatever 87 250R's and 350X's. At the end of the day there is no proof other than what people claim. There are tons of Canadian members on here and no one has been able to come up with proof. If there were "many 250r in1987" like you claim something would have come up by now with pics or documents to prove it.

[BGP]

Picked up an '85 250R from a french redneck north of Montreal a couple of weekends ago. This guy had 2 TRX250R, 3 Banshees (one of 'em with CPI block on it) , a 350X and 2 85 250Rs. He says: "too bad you didin come lass year. I ad real clean 87 250 ar. Guy from de US showed up wit turdy five undred and diden even try the bike. EE load it up and go ome right away!"

87 hunh? I reply.

"YA, funny, I still ad the keyes for it too!"

Woah, what else? he discribed it as a long rod unit, red tank, white plastics, keyed ignition....etc,etc.

I asked for pictures but, alas, his girlfriend erased them by mistake (sure...). Said he'd look for some older prints and take pics of them.

Lastly, I asked if he new about this site or .org site to which he said "wah?!"

Still waiting.

Before leaving I told him that If he wanted his 15minutes of fame on the net, he should find those pics. I explained that he would be the first to have proof of any 87 having been sold... He scoffed and mumbled "Calisse, chu pas tuseul a nawere eu un!" (I'm not the only guy to have had one) : [

[Dirtcrasher]

Dude's I don't want to start a WAr on here but In CANADa we did get the 250R in 1987 I know I rode my friends in the pits many time and his bros had a 350x but not sure on the year of the 350x
but Im 100% sure that we got many 250R in 1987

Then WHY in 25 years can we find MINT/.untouched/barely ridden 86 250R's but no 87's? I guess everyone was so happy they beat the snot out of them and there all gone?? Not one single item aside from a questionable seat has ever shown up in all this time. Nothing/nada/zilch......

Photo's? Bills of sale? The closest we ever came was oversees but IDT that wasn't an 87 either.

All these prestine 86's and no 87's in pieces or otherwise.

Just like a crime scene, it takes EVIDENCE....................

Plenty of other 87's though. Does it make sense to anyone but me? Even Honda had an 86
built for them by VMS. NOT an 87.............

My god, how many times do we have to go through this? Scumbag changed the VIN in the listing.

I hope dksix was kidding.

[thestud25]

Then WHY in 25 years can we find MINT/.untouched/barely ridden 86 250R's but no 87's? I guess everyone was so happy they beat the snot out of them and there all gone?? Not one single item aside from a questionable seat has ever shown up in all this time. Nothing/nada/zilch......

Photo's? Bills of sale? The closest we ever came was oversees but IDT that was an 87 either.

All these prestine 86's and no 87's in pieces or otherwise.

Just like a crime scene, it takes EVIDENCE....................



Precisely!

[jeopardy98]

Sitting with my popcorn as well...

[cbx1170]

I'm in PHX area and emailed him to come look at it which prolly is a waste of time.
I'm gonna go out and make an offer. PROVE to me that it/there is a 1987 HONDA ATC250R OEM 2 stroke machine and NOT some backwoods DMV made up 87 TITLE. Which some DMV's screw up and do. And ...... I'll send ya $100 UN HUNDAY. PAYPAL, CASH? Cashiers Checkie. Whatever. Capiche. Anybody can title anything almost any year if they try hard enuff. Show me the VIN and/or Engine #. See the thing is WE want to see one. YOU want to sell one for big bucks. Why not?
To me this is all like the movie GHOST 1990 you can almost smell it, you can almost get a whiff of it, you can almost hear it, you can see the smoke and mirrors happening. Pennies moving on their own DONT count. But ya can't actually SEE it, pic it, pic the vin, put yer hands on it.
So.......................

[dirtwheels]

I live right near where this bike is. I'm not even sure its worth my time to go look at it to prove the obvious but it may be worth the amusement. Funny, it is not on craigslist over here. You would think he would have tried that first before ebay. Like everyone else on here has said...if it were real, then why not parade serial numbers and hi-res pics of specific areas for all to witness.

[Donzi26zx]

can you do us all a favor and go look at it and take some pictures so we can all get a good laugh out of this.......or maybe you will get the first 87 Honda 250R :)

[BigSky200X]

I live right near where this bike is. I'm not even sure its worth my time to go look at it to prove the obvious but it may be worth the amusement. Funny, it is not on craigslist over here. You would think he would have tried that first before ebay. Like everyone else on here has said...if it were real, then why not parade serial numbers and hi-res pics of specific areas for all to witness.

Go look at it. Take a pic of the badge on the neck for us.

[Xfile]

You guys got him all wrong! it comes with a notarized bill of "sal" not sale. If Sal says it's an 87....then dammit....it's gotta be an 87!:wondering

[dirtwheels]

I'm sure cbx1170 will go look at it for us if the guy allows him. If not, I wouldn't be able to go till Saturday unless we want pics in the dark.

[hang&rattle]

I'm really enjoying this.:twisted::twisted: I know it's wrong, but I didn't even have to stir the pot on this one. I'm not a good person, lol.

[BigSky200X]

I'm sure cbx1170 will go look at it for us if the guy allows him. If not, I wouldn't be able to go till Saturday unless we want pics in the dark.

I'm way up in Montana or I'd go and look. I think we need to at least try and get pics of the neck badge, maybe an engine number to prove it. If he lets us, like was said.

[Dirtcrasher]

It's over, just got this:

Dear dirtcrasher,

oh ok well to be honest it may be sold already I have a guy coming from phx,thanks again..again run the vin givin.there was a mistake before.


- bighair838383

[BigSky200X]

I smell a rat.
I emailed him and asked what he actually wants for it. He said make an offer. I told him I was just curious because if it is indeed an 87 250R its worth more than I can afford right now. Waiting for reply.

[BigSky200X]

Also, I have a High School friend and my Bio dad who are both in Canada. One in Alberta and one in BC, looking and asking around about the 87 250R and 350X for me. I'll let you guys know what they find.

[BigSky200X]

I'm really enjoying this.:twisted::twisted: I know it's wrong, but I didn't even have to stir the pot on this one. I'm not a good person, lol.

Why? You are Bighair838383? lol j/k

[KASEY]

no worries!!! i live less than 10 miles from him... i sent him an email wanting to see it in person,,,, so i will solve the mistery!!! jh3tbo705hc504408 he must have changed the vin in the auction here is what i copied from it ,, you see he has changed the "G" TO AN "H" LOL TOOOOOO FUNNY... will see if he lets me look at it... and all the people in his feedback are tied together and all are no longer ebay users!!! its bull,,,,,

[BigSky200X]

no worries!!! i live less than 10 miles from him... i sent him an email wanting to see it in person,,,, so i will solve the mistery!!! jh3tbo705hc504408 he must have changed the vin in the auction here is what i copied from it ,, you see he has changed the "G" TO AN "H" LOL TOOOOOO FUNNY... will see if he lets me look at it... and all the people in his feedback are tied together and all are no longer ebay users!!! its bull,,,,,

Ok cool. Will be nice to know.

[greenhuman]

There are plenty of 87 250R's in Australia.
I saw Elvis riding one just the other day.....

[cbx1170]

He wont let me see it. He sez he has a "collector" or "gentleman" coming to look at it today. KASEY, possibly this "person", is a "collector" or "gentleman" i guess. He also said Today, Wednesday, is last day of listing. I sent him nice email wanting to come look at and he blew me off................
Oh and I love all the spelling mistakes in the ad. noterised stiker anser mad recive. Elvis is my uncle by the way.
Dear bighair838383,

I live in Glendale can I come look at it? Mike 623-60X-XXXX

- cbx1170

Dear cbx1170,

Im sorry today will be the last day of auction.I have a gentleman with cash to see it today.He is a collector.


- bighair838383

[jmax857]

This comment means nothing without PICS to prove it. There have been soooo many claims that people have owned, riden, seen, whatever 87 250R's and 350X's. At the end of the day there is no proof other than what people claim. There are tons of Canadian members on here and no one has been able to come up with proof. If there were "many 250r in1987" like you claim something would have come up by now with pics or documents to prove it.

when you say stuff like this all you do is pretty much call everyone who said they have seen one a liar, yea sure there are lots of 14 year olds that say the stupidest things like "ï have one in my basement but my mom wont let me show it too anybody", or "my buddy had one and i rode it, it was fast, then we sold it for scrap metal" or something absolutely rediculous. besides, no pics to prove it? as far as i know here in canada the bikes made it as far as the dealer, the ban came around and they werent allowed to sell them to the public. how many people take a picture of every bike on a dealers floor? and still have it in 23 years? i understand some people are not credible, but what about everyone else who has seen one are they all "liars?"

[fabiodriven]

when you say stuff like this all you do is pretty much call everyone who said they have seen one a liar, yea sure there are lots of 14 year olds that say the stupidest things like "ï have one in my basement but my mom wont let me show it too anybody", or "my buddy had one and i rode it, it was fast, then we sold it for scrap metal" or something absolutely rediculous. besides, no pics to prove it? as far as i know here in canada the bikes made it as far as the dealer, the ban came around and they werent allowed to sell them to the public. how many people take a picture of every bike on a dealers floor? and still have it in 23 years? i understand some people are not credible, but what about everyone else who has seen one are they all "liars?"

Until there is proof, they do not exist.

[jmax857]

Until there is proof, they do not exist.

all i can say is, do you believe dean kirsten is a liar?

[thestud25]

when you say stuff like this all you do is pretty much call everyone who said they have seen one a liar, yea sure there are lots of 14 year olds that say the stupidest things like "ï have one in my basement but my mom wont let me show it too anybody", or "my buddy had one and i rode it, it was fast, then we sold it for scrap metal" or something absolutely rediculous. besides, no pics to prove it? as far as i know here in canada the bikes made it as far as the dealer, the ban came around and they werent allowed to sell them to the public. how many people take a picture of every bike on a dealers floor? and still have it in 23 years? i understand some people are not credible, but what about everyone else who has seen one are they all "liars?"

Well Jmax, the proof is in the pudding. So far no one has pudding! These sitings are nothing more that folk lore and fairy tails. I have been searching for years and others on here have searched for decades. I currently own a 1987 Big Red, and I have owned a 87 200x and 250sx. We know these models are out obviously. No one, I mean no one has been able to come up with anything other than " my brother's cousin's uncle's sister's daughter twice removed boyfriend's best friend saw one one time, but it was covered by a tarp and the guy didn't want to take the tarp off" stories.

I am not calling these people liars, just greatly uninformed, or blinded by the thought that they came across the Holy Grail! Let me be the first to say that if one of the accounts can come up with pics I will apologize in every forum they have posted on!
X owner X owner X owner

[scooterroo]

well i emailed the guy also asking for pics of the id badge and vin number on the neck, and perhaps some better pics of the thing, also inquired about the keyed ignition and asked why it has a white tank on it instead of red, what happened to the original plastics and if he still had them, and if he still had the decals that were supposedly powerwashed off of the shrouds and the reply i got was, "get a life! it is an 87 and if i dont believe the ad, then dont bid." and alls i asked for was a few pics of credible items that would clearly show it is in fact an 87. i am raising the bullsh!t flag in honor of everyone who agrees with me.

[cbx1170]

10:15 AM He sez he sold it. And he expects it to be sold again. Prolly tired of people calling him out. Bet a dollar he has a white 86 250r sitting in his yard.

[fabiodriven]

all i can say is, do you believe dean kirsten is a liar?

I'm sorry, I take it back. Let me change what I meant to say-

OK guys, it's official! Some guy on the internet told me that he met a guy that thinks he once saw an 87 250R so that's it. Case closed.

THE 250R MYSTERY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN SOLVED THANKS TO jmax. EVERYBODY BE SURE TO REMEMBER HIS NAME FOR SOLVING THIS MYSTERY WHICH THE REST OF US THREE WHEELER ENTHUSIASTS HAVE BEEN UNABLE SOLVE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. THANK YOU jmax!

[luke]

I emailed asking for the vin last night at 7.42pm (evening, UK time)

This is the reply i got -

jh3tbo705gc504408

This reply came at 7.44pm (US time, i think)

I'm not sure of the time diference but right now in the UK it's 5.15 pm (evening)
So can anyone work out if he sent me the original 'G' vin, after he told you all and changed the add, to 'H' ???
Means nothing, other than proving him a total liar :naughty:

IMO he thought he could fool someone, anyone, into thinking he had the rarest bike in the world, and got massively stung himself :crazy:

[Fungo Wizard]

I have noticed it is not on ebay anymore, but he does have an 86 on there now. Did it sell, or did the "collector" come buy it?

[tommerp]

Why does it seem like it's Scooby and Shaggy snooping around here.... LOL!! I'm sure this dude had no clue how called out he was going to be......

[dksix]

I hope dksix was kidding.

Twas sarcasm sir. I'd love to see a real 87R but I'm sure there will be much more fan fair than 2 crappy cell phone pics in an ebay auction if it does.

[Macs]

I have been communicating back and forth with the guy for awhile. From talking to him I do believe he sold it, for a pretty penny I must add. His story has not changed one bit which tells me he is a good/ bold liar, believes his own story or telling the truth. He is suppose to be forwarding the buyers contact info in the morning. I might be gullible, but it seems that always gets me the rare stuff. Even though this is very unlikely, I will follow up on it.

If someone here bought it, pm me.

And when he said it would be sold again. He was talking about me.

[Macs]

Let me ad, his story hasn't changed with me.

[KASEY]

well i offered big money to try to see if he still has it, so we will see.... if he really sold it he will be sick at what i offered!!!!!!

[Macs]

Same boat here. If he still had it he would have jumped all over it. He said that he sold it to a collector for 8k. No one I know would have paid that for an 86. It really has me thinking. I am glad you swiped in kasey, I was thinking to myself that it was sitting in your garage.

[KASEY]

ITS not AN 87!!!! IF IT WAS HE WOULD HAVE POSTED PICTURES OF THE VIN!!!! its just another idiot trying to scam someone.. he just emailed me and said a collector in flagstaff bought it for $8000 ... but he would not tell me the collectors name or number .. its all crap!!! it was always crap ... its only 1 hour from me and i would gladly drive up to see it,,, but he won't tell me? because its a SCAM,,,

[KASEY]

macs don't get excited..... THERE ARE NO 87 250R'S!!! just scammers...

[Macs]

I do believe they are out there. I also believe In ghost and aliens....I am by no means getting my hopes up but my last two buys were from people on this site that didn't believe the story the we told. The 200 took 3 weeks to get to see a pic. But I just got done talking to him and I honestly feel he has split personality. Really a fun guy.

[cox]

i live in alberta, ad i have been looking high and low for any trike thats an 87. i cant find any 87 trike up here let alone an R or X. But if i do find something i can assure you it will be posted here first.Lol, IF it ever come up.....

[mymint87]

.. THERE ARE NO 87 250R'S!!! ...
I know 1987 250R seller stunk from the get go, but i gotta chime in and this is not so much directed personally at you Rev.....

That mindset is so 3wheelerinternetcommunity10yearsago....several team racer have said to have riden one so I guess you know where the pecking order of authority lays in my book....I guess the blabble will continue until ThrillBilly can official endorse one with pics and documentation....maybe even start a blog about it as 3WW officially endorsed....these internet forums are THE LAST PLACE I look for authority.....many online are just a bunch of flunks in a vacuum

ya know, my wordpad is filled with copies of links that are nothing more than I TOLD YA SO threads.....I honestly think this vomit of a thread gets posted just ta piss me off or get under my skin......and somehow like an idiot I BITE...instead of just ignoring the mindless

never, ever existed?....what a freaking joke of denial............time will tell and time is on my side.......I'll make a prediction, when a 87 is finally shoved in your ignorant faces.....it wont be like the brochure....it will be blue, like the 87 trx

[Macs]

Don't tell me that you are holding out on us Minty with a blue 87r. I am glad to see you around. I think I am saying the same as you, just not in a " in your face" type way.

[scooterroo]

hahahahaa, i just love how the mention or talk of the infamous 87r gets everyones tailfeathers all in a tizzy. HEY, PASS ME SOME FRIGGIN POPCORN ALREADY!!!!

[Iprefer3]

Has anyone tried to communicate with Honda directly before??? It seems if anyone would know 100% for sure it would be the maker.

[Macs]

Yes and no. At least not a straight answer.

[Iprefer3]

Maybe you have to ask in Japanese:lol:

[aldochina]

they made red and blue trx's in 86-87

[BigSky200X]

Has anyone tried to communicate with Honda directly before??? It seems if anyone would know 100% for sure it would be the maker.

I'm going to call Mr. Honda and ask.

[cbx1170]

Original Soichiro Honda, I/E THE MAN, passed 10-15-20 years ago. Son maybe around tho.

[Iprefer3]

Hey bigsky200x while your at it. Can you get ahold of Mr. Tiger to ask when there going to start reproducing them again?:lol:

[cbx1170]

I've been emailing back and forth all day long on the white "87" tryke.

Yesterday it was " i am pulling it down tomorow" this AM it was a guy is coming to look at it. 10:30 AM sold to a fella from Flagstaff. Over and over again "I am stating just as I put in Ebay Ad that VIN is correct "h". "

To me he/she/it said "You are calling me a liar... I wont show it to someone who calls me a liar" I said "Hmmmmm look at it my way.....you are calling the tens and hundreds of people emailing/contacting you that... please prove its an 87 --- Liars" And I said I know of NO ONE who leaves money on the table for a RARE item in todays world. explain those two to me.......

in sequence
them
Im sorry today will be the last day of auction.I have a gentleman with cash to see it today.He is a collector.
me
does this "gentleman" or "collector" know that he is going to buy a 1986 atc250r honda. and do you know that?
them
Well lets just put it this way.He works for the dmv so im sure he knows what hes getting.It has been proven to be a 87 so all the questions that blew up on my email.all those lost out.Sorry but i do understand 100%
me
the dmv can title it any year they want its the manufacturer vin that states actual year. 8th digit from last # if its "G" then its 86, if its "H" then it is 87. Your Ebay auction and emails say both. which is it? $100 sez its a "G" . Hope "your" DMV guy knows this. otherwise it proves why he works there. Have a Nice Day.....
them
why dont you look at the vin i gave .it is a h ...i have showed that several times.what it with you people.And its the teth digit by the way.Im not worried on bit about what people think it is already sold this afternoon.thank you...
me
WAIT problem here he said earlier sold this morning 10:30AM I have email NOW it sold this afternoon HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMM........
me
if it is a "H" its worth 10X more at least!!. NO ONE in USA or CANADA has ever properly documented one..... how can yours be the ONLY one.??? there are hundreds of ATC 3 wheel ONLY people watching & wanting a 1987 250R......they will keep emailing till they all find out.
them
i have the engine number as well and it is sold now sorry..I understand.It will get resold again im sure..
me
I (cbx) kinda lost it here P/C and all....
me
look man sorry to bust your chops but NO ONE has ever documented a 87 250r. I have a nice 2009 white Ford Pinto for sale. really right here i have the vin #. See what I mean. The 3wheeling websites are smokin with your info and all across the nation they are lookin for you. one of our buyers may have been there. no pics of VIN# or eng ser # then its a 86 250R with a DMV title of any year you want to call it. I'll let everyone know so they wont bother you with your 86 atc250r.
them
well its already sold.The one of a kind trike is gone......I dont care what anyone says.why put a vin out there so someone can screw me.The guy that bought it can't belive it...nor does anyone else.see yah..sorry i wouldnt have sold it to anyone who said i was a liar....the vins says it all sorry.
me
without pic of vin it means nothing man sorry. my 2009 Ford Pinto has a vin on it too so there.
them
its all good man.I understand and respect your opinion.its gone and the guy who bought lives in flagstaff and paid cash.after doing a vin check and stolen check.So im not worried one bit one it.
me
This is NOT good by me (cbx) as a 3wheelerworld member, but I did it (I sorry)
me
not opinion-fact. as far as liar bit all the people that emailed you. you are calling them all a liar thats tens or hundreds of people vs you. kinda one sided dont you think. why cant you just tell the truth? its not the end of the world. also i know of no one in todays world who would sell something for less than its worth. also what happens if you really do sell it to someone and they find out the truth? kinda bad on you isn't it? we talk to all 3 wheeler owners we are the 3 wheeler thought police. who ever has it will talk to us sooner or later. we watch all the Ebay and Craigslist and local ads.
me
PSYCHO CBX got out.
them
whatever this has gone to far already..wow

me
this morning 6:58AM i sent this:
i got one of those out of Quebec also. wanna race sometime? i think mine is faster!! i put racing reeds in it and a hotter spark plug. whats your name? Ted
them
Dont waste my time....With games..Im sorry today will be the last day of auction.I have a gentleman with cash to see it today.He is a collector.Thank you


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[fmnrd]

guys why is it if the bike is from Canada it is showing up in the US DMV System? this guy needs to be reported to ebay .As he lists future bike with crazy claims report it to ebay .I am sure he will be rolling out a 87 350x next

[Iprefer3]

I reported this guy to ebay even before I became a member on here.

[Fungo Wizard]

This is hilarious. Are you guys busting his bubble on the 86 he has listed on ebay right now? Maybe it is an 87 also that he did not put the racing plastics on!

[jmax857]

Until there is proof, they do not exist.

is an eye witness testimony, viable in court?

[Lord Letto 20]

is an eye witness testimony, viable in court?
IMO it is unless there is lies/contradictions in it.

[fmnrd]

Minty why do you think the 87 would have blue plastics? Are you insinuating a Christmas special 87 250r atc because I talked to bighair and he claims he has one of those too! lol lol .
As far as did Honda make any 87 250r's well lets see there is a color Brochure that has surfaced that along with the 87 250r has other models that actually made the showroom floor .So Honda did make at least one 87 250r for the photo's .I have a hard time believing that they would have set up a plastic injection mold machine only to run 1 WHITE fender set and headlight Shroud ,set up a silk screen to run 1 special seat and did all the special art work for the decals only to run one set .I think the keyed ignition was probably the same as the 87 200x . So being a manufacturing guy I think they would have run more than one of these special to "87" items .That is not to say that everything was destroyed shortly after and is now buried in some landfill. I think the threat of more lawsuits forced Honda to destroy all the High Performance models and only release the Recreation or farm type models.

[Auto_Demon]

I sent him this email:
Does it have a keyed ignition? If not what happened to it? Can you get a pick of the VIN Badge on the neck? It should have the VIN, date of Manufacturing, as well as the exact model. Did you recover the seat? Not to be a pain, just need to have these questions answered before I bid.

it says the vin in the description and i went on a vin decoder for honda 3 wheelers and it says its a 1987 unknown atc model!

[thestud25]

it says the vin in the description and i went on a vin decoder for honda 3 wheelers and it says its a 1987 unknown atc model!

Dude, it is not a 87! Did you read the whole thread?

[bkm]

Dude, it is not a 87! Did you read the whole thread?
Isn't it easier to just start with the last page and make an educated guess as to what the fist 5 pages had to say.:lol:

[dcreel]

Isn't it easier to just start with the last page and make an educated guess as to what the fist 5 pages had to say.:lol:

You'd be surprised to find out how many times that happens on a 1 page thread.

[fabiodriven]

Somebody lock this thread! For the love of Pete!

[fmnrd]

no lets keep it going for trikebuilder /bighairs next rare trike ,It has been a month the 87 350x should be ready to unvail:lol:

[thestud25]

no lets keep it going for trikebuilder /bighairs next rare trike ,It has been a month the 87 350x should be ready to unvail:lol:

No, I bought the 87 350x and cut it up for scrap!

[fmnrd]

well he still has a 87 500r prototype that is next to ebay .

[Donzi26zx]

I will save it it for Bighair, she could use it on the 87 Honda 350X!