ATCeeya
12-24-2010, 04:40 AM
This thread is much longer than I had intended. I ranted a bit so please forgive me.
So I bought a house a little over 2 years ago in a nice area. The house on the right is set back further than my house just so that his "parking lot" (massive stoned driveway with no garage just all stone and mud, only non paved street on the block!) is in complete view when in my back yard. It didnt take long at all for me to be sickened with looking at a fleet of cars when I went into my backyard. He is sort of a bum, doesnt take care of his home or property and im super into up keep of mine. There is always a bunch of random people showing up and living there, its a duplex, again, probably the only on the entire street,,,which wouldnt be a problem if he had some decent tenants and not so many. Last year he started to map out a pole barn just 3 foot off the property line in my direct line of site with dimensions of said garage larger than my house. Needless to say the town canned his idea and personally I dont think he has any money to pay for one considering the house has half the siding falling off and looks very shabby...Anyways, I planted 10 Norway Spruce trees to aid in blocking the parking lot from my view.
Soon after, we adopted 2 pitpull puppies. They are super friendly by the way. Anyways, we put up a 10 x 10 kennel complete with drainage, roof, astroturf floor. Its pretty rad. So when I went out the to kennel everyday to let my pups hang out i could still see through the trees and personally I didnt trust him to not poison them or something as i heard he was calling me an A-hole to people for not condoning the monster garage he wanted to build. So behind the Norways I had room, so I put up about 50 foot long 6foot tall "neighbor hater" fence. I must say, life is good since then.
Now my neighbor on the left hand side is an old guy with his wife, his neghbor on his left, another old guy, has a chain link fence around his yard for their now diseased dog. My Old man neighbor hates it, hates fences in general. Has made a point since I moved in to let me know that. Almost had a heartattack when I first mentioned wanting to fence in the yard. Him and his wife tag-teamed me with "its not neighborly". Now me and Old man neighbor have a really good repor. Talk frequently, Ive done some work for him already. Recently, he asked me to do some more work (snowplow his driveway for the winter)..I gave a plenty fair estimate and he bugged out about it. Like I was trying to rip him..he made me feel guilty but my old lady got pissed and told me he was an old fart for complaining and had no right. Well, he tells me to just "forget about it" and that his son was going to snowblow it instead. he played the poor-card which is hilarious since he has a sweet pension and buys a brand new car every 2 years and gives the old one to his son free, plus foots the bill for ballar family vacations. 2 days later we get a huge storm, I was out all night plowing and when I get home I do my driveway and go inside. He calls my phone for hours and when I finally talk to him he asks why I havent done his driveway? I laugh to myself and tell him, "well, you told me not to and you said your son was going to do it", well apparently he changed his tune when we got hit with over 30'' of snow in 2 days and asked me to do it then come in the house after. So I go out and plow him, go inside his house afterwards and he LOWBALLS me on price. WTF...anyways, I accept to be nice and smooth it over, plus im in his house and this is awkward now enough as I hate bickering over money with old neigbors. But after doing it it wasnt working out for me so I kindly gave him his money back and found him someone else.
Now back to the point of all this...We are basically tired of having to keep our dogs either in their kennel or in the house. They have so much energy and we dont always have time to take them on long walks. So if we could have them run freely around the yard, they will have plenty of room to burn off some steam. We already had the one dog run like crazy and take off in the road forcing cars to stop when he got away from my old lady as she was getting him from the kennel and we have deer and turkey and the other tenant side neighbor has a dog as well ,,and our other pup likes to chase other animals. So we want to fence in the entire yard now. I feel like its going to totally freek out my Old man neighbor. My old lady doesnt care a bit, she wants me to not worry about anybody else and just do what we want since were the ones paying 1200 a month mortage and not anybody else. She makes a valid arguement. But she isnt all chummy with the old man like I am. Although since he got all wierd about the snowplowing $$, I feel less bad about doing so.
Also, they always come into our yard to play with our dogs through the kennel,,and we have other neighborhood kids who ride ATVS in our back trails and they are always blowing through my yard which doenst bother me really but the old lady DOESNT like it at all and im sick of hearing her complain. Now with the dogs she is over protective and doesnt want people in our yard, Period. Plus the deer crap in my yard and the dogs eat it (sick) as well as the long boring conversations we constantly get stuck in when we go to get our dogs from the kennel the old neighbors flock and can easily eat up 30 minutes when you just want to go about your business and not be bothered. I know they are all retired but some of us work 10 hour days and then have other obligations after work to tend to and these convos really drag on especially when they talk about the SAME THING..
Ok so Im almost to the point of all this...We want to competely fence in the back yard. I know a 6 foot fence is going to completely freek the old man out. He likes it all open so his grandson can bomb around my yard daily on their lawn mower too. We want Privacy, for us, and the dogs. Keep the deer (and their crap) out. Keep kids, neighbors etc out and keep the dogs in allowing them to run freely and burn up some energy. They are just nuts at night and need more excersize and we definately have the yard for it.
So what do I do? 6 foot fence totally burning up the old man? Do a chain link which will not ruffle as many feathers however the dogs will bark at neighbors like crazy and they will be playing with them through fence. And that offers no privacy either. 4 foot wooden fence? Less high yet solid for dogs to not see through. I personally would love me some 6 foot wooden fence but I can settle for 4 foot or maybe even a 6 foot lattice then down to 4 foot a ways down the yard. I just dont know and hoping that typing all this out and getting opinions will help. Sorry so long.
This is the Tenant side neighbor. This is an old pic, I added more trees, the fence behind the trees and the dog kennel since this pic was taken. But you can see what Im talking about there. All that area behind the trees is where he parks cars and his junk.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3852/1001166f.jpg
Here is a pic right when we moved in of my backyard pointing towards the back of my house, the left side is where I have the trees, fence, and kennel now. The dark brown house on the right is the old man. The Corral-style fencing pictured is mine also and was there when I bought the place and is still there. We would fence in the whole area just in front of those pines a few feet ahead of where I pictured.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3692/1000780n.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3483/1000781s.jpg
So what would you guys do, just do as YOU want and go with whatever fence suits you best or take neighbors into consideration and go with less agressive fence? Old lady says 6 foot but im "on the fence" about it. lol
So I bought a house a little over 2 years ago in a nice area. The house on the right is set back further than my house just so that his "parking lot" (massive stoned driveway with no garage just all stone and mud, only non paved street on the block!) is in complete view when in my back yard. It didnt take long at all for me to be sickened with looking at a fleet of cars when I went into my backyard. He is sort of a bum, doesnt take care of his home or property and im super into up keep of mine. There is always a bunch of random people showing up and living there, its a duplex, again, probably the only on the entire street,,,which wouldnt be a problem if he had some decent tenants and not so many. Last year he started to map out a pole barn just 3 foot off the property line in my direct line of site with dimensions of said garage larger than my house. Needless to say the town canned his idea and personally I dont think he has any money to pay for one considering the house has half the siding falling off and looks very shabby...Anyways, I planted 10 Norway Spruce trees to aid in blocking the parking lot from my view.
Soon after, we adopted 2 pitpull puppies. They are super friendly by the way. Anyways, we put up a 10 x 10 kennel complete with drainage, roof, astroturf floor. Its pretty rad. So when I went out the to kennel everyday to let my pups hang out i could still see through the trees and personally I didnt trust him to not poison them or something as i heard he was calling me an A-hole to people for not condoning the monster garage he wanted to build. So behind the Norways I had room, so I put up about 50 foot long 6foot tall "neighbor hater" fence. I must say, life is good since then.
Now my neighbor on the left hand side is an old guy with his wife, his neghbor on his left, another old guy, has a chain link fence around his yard for their now diseased dog. My Old man neighbor hates it, hates fences in general. Has made a point since I moved in to let me know that. Almost had a heartattack when I first mentioned wanting to fence in the yard. Him and his wife tag-teamed me with "its not neighborly". Now me and Old man neighbor have a really good repor. Talk frequently, Ive done some work for him already. Recently, he asked me to do some more work (snowplow his driveway for the winter)..I gave a plenty fair estimate and he bugged out about it. Like I was trying to rip him..he made me feel guilty but my old lady got pissed and told me he was an old fart for complaining and had no right. Well, he tells me to just "forget about it" and that his son was going to snowblow it instead. he played the poor-card which is hilarious since he has a sweet pension and buys a brand new car every 2 years and gives the old one to his son free, plus foots the bill for ballar family vacations. 2 days later we get a huge storm, I was out all night plowing and when I get home I do my driveway and go inside. He calls my phone for hours and when I finally talk to him he asks why I havent done his driveway? I laugh to myself and tell him, "well, you told me not to and you said your son was going to do it", well apparently he changed his tune when we got hit with over 30'' of snow in 2 days and asked me to do it then come in the house after. So I go out and plow him, go inside his house afterwards and he LOWBALLS me on price. WTF...anyways, I accept to be nice and smooth it over, plus im in his house and this is awkward now enough as I hate bickering over money with old neigbors. But after doing it it wasnt working out for me so I kindly gave him his money back and found him someone else.
Now back to the point of all this...We are basically tired of having to keep our dogs either in their kennel or in the house. They have so much energy and we dont always have time to take them on long walks. So if we could have them run freely around the yard, they will have plenty of room to burn off some steam. We already had the one dog run like crazy and take off in the road forcing cars to stop when he got away from my old lady as she was getting him from the kennel and we have deer and turkey and the other tenant side neighbor has a dog as well ,,and our other pup likes to chase other animals. So we want to fence in the entire yard now. I feel like its going to totally freek out my Old man neighbor. My old lady doesnt care a bit, she wants me to not worry about anybody else and just do what we want since were the ones paying 1200 a month mortage and not anybody else. She makes a valid arguement. But she isnt all chummy with the old man like I am. Although since he got all wierd about the snowplowing $$, I feel less bad about doing so.
Also, they always come into our yard to play with our dogs through the kennel,,and we have other neighborhood kids who ride ATVS in our back trails and they are always blowing through my yard which doenst bother me really but the old lady DOESNT like it at all and im sick of hearing her complain. Now with the dogs she is over protective and doesnt want people in our yard, Period. Plus the deer crap in my yard and the dogs eat it (sick) as well as the long boring conversations we constantly get stuck in when we go to get our dogs from the kennel the old neighbors flock and can easily eat up 30 minutes when you just want to go about your business and not be bothered. I know they are all retired but some of us work 10 hour days and then have other obligations after work to tend to and these convos really drag on especially when they talk about the SAME THING..
Ok so Im almost to the point of all this...We want to competely fence in the back yard. I know a 6 foot fence is going to completely freek the old man out. He likes it all open so his grandson can bomb around my yard daily on their lawn mower too. We want Privacy, for us, and the dogs. Keep the deer (and their crap) out. Keep kids, neighbors etc out and keep the dogs in allowing them to run freely and burn up some energy. They are just nuts at night and need more excersize and we definately have the yard for it.
So what do I do? 6 foot fence totally burning up the old man? Do a chain link which will not ruffle as many feathers however the dogs will bark at neighbors like crazy and they will be playing with them through fence. And that offers no privacy either. 4 foot wooden fence? Less high yet solid for dogs to not see through. I personally would love me some 6 foot wooden fence but I can settle for 4 foot or maybe even a 6 foot lattice then down to 4 foot a ways down the yard. I just dont know and hoping that typing all this out and getting opinions will help. Sorry so long.
This is the Tenant side neighbor. This is an old pic, I added more trees, the fence behind the trees and the dog kennel since this pic was taken. But you can see what Im talking about there. All that area behind the trees is where he parks cars and his junk.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3852/1001166f.jpg
Here is a pic right when we moved in of my backyard pointing towards the back of my house, the left side is where I have the trees, fence, and kennel now. The dark brown house on the right is the old man. The Corral-style fencing pictured is mine also and was there when I bought the place and is still there. We would fence in the whole area just in front of those pines a few feet ahead of where I pictured.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3692/1000780n.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3483/1000781s.jpg
So what would you guys do, just do as YOU want and go with whatever fence suits you best or take neighbors into consideration and go with less agressive fence? Old lady says 6 foot but im "on the fence" about it. lol