I can't sleep

[hillbilly 200x]

Every night for the passed three weeks it is the same thing I can't trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro sleep:mad:. I am tired but I can't close my eyes I just lay there and roll around like a fish out of water. What do all of you do to fall asleep at night. This really sucks!! Thanks I just needed to vent. Aaron

[tri again]

3ww for sure.
What I do is eliminate any aggravation whenever I can.

Might be as simple as turning off the phone ringers since I'm good
for nothin' without sleep.
Keep other peoples bs OUT of my head.

I just try to eliminate a bunch of tiny little things that bother me.
May not seem like much individually but they do add up.

On the chemical front, nothing really helps that doesn't have a payback.
Melatonin is a naturally occuring hormone that tells your body/brain
that it's dark out and time to sleep.
It's real cheap and avail at any grocery store and not a sedative in any sense of the word.
It just tells your brain it's dark out and ok to sleep now
but may have a side effect of repeating one's self.

Just kidding.

[jordan_muirhead]

i can never sleep, before i got laid off, i was working overtime everyday, worked 16 hours one day (really several days), came home, and was still up till midnight, i just cant sleep...so i get on 3WW

[Bustos82]

if i cant sleep i drink some budweisers.... lol

[NINJA]

Whatever you do, do not take too many Tylenol or Advil PM. You will have the worst hallucinations and lost time experiences in your life! I frequently have insomnia and it really sucks. In my case it is because chronic pain caused by muscle death due to a leg injury years ago. Dr. Joe is right, melatonin works pretty well. I've also found that a couple Benadryl combined with a beer will usually get me knocked out when I really need it. But don't overdue it as I warned earlier, too much diphenhydramine (benydryl) is a terrifying experience.

[tri again]

Whatever you do, do not take too many Tylenol or Advil PM. You will have the worst hallucinations and lost time experiences in your life! I frequently have insomnia and it really sucks. In my case it is because chronic pain caused by muscle death due to a leg injury years ago. Dr. Joe is right, melatonin works pretty well. I've also found that a couple Benadryl combined with a beer will usually get me knocked out when I really need it. But don't overdue it as I warned earlier, too much diphenhydramine (benydryl) is a terrifying experience.

oooh ouch.
Sorry for your muscle pain.
Even with actual destruction, there can be phantom pain in body parts that don't even exist anymore.

Hate to say it but tylenol is the #1 cause of liver failure in the usa
so good call Ninja.
They mix it in EVERYthing so they can sell more.
Vicodin has it, percocette, darvo etc etc so the rx's can be refilled
with a phone call.

It may sound funny but keeping the sleeping area free from 'reality conversations'
that belong outside, $$ talks, even mail doesn't belong anywhere near the sleep zone.

I may just go look up some other tricks and tips.
Hey, maybe that will keep me awake AND put me to sleep at the same time!

medscape.com is a good reference place.
Free education credits too.
Now Those will put Anyone to sleep.

[hillbilly 200x]

Thanks guys I took one tylenol after i started this thread and with 5min was sleeping :). I think I may go see my doctor about tyring to get some typ of sleeping med. Thanks Aaron

[bkm]

I rotate from midnights to days every 28 days. I work 6am to 6pm so my internal clock is all jacked up. At first I tried everything but Ambien seemed to work the best. I used it for about two years and then became dependant on it. I used more than my insurance would refill so I had no choice but to go cold turkey for about a month. The first two weeks were hell and then all of a sudden someone flipped a switch. I have been off any type of sleep meds for almost a year now and I can even sleep during the day when I'm on nights.

I have found that taking a hot bath or shower before bed really relaxes me and helps me sleep.

[Mr_RPM]

use your sleeping area for sleeping only. if you start hanging out in your room, watching tv, using it as a area for day time activities it can make it harder to sleep. I experienced this when i broke my back and spent most my time in my room during the day.
make sure your comfortable, i use a fan pointed strait at me, this way i can use blankets (i like the weight of blankets on me) and its a good source of white noise which i really need.

Another problem i have is sleeping in too late. once i can't sleep till 5am, i start over by getting up very early and going to bed at 10-11. then i slowly stay up later and later till i force myself to restart and wake up super early again. right now i have been up till 4-6am lately and getting up at 12-1pm...summer time parties lol
Tylenol PM works horrible for me, gives me restless legs

also, if im stressed about not being able to sleep, i wont be able to sleep. I som,etimes have to give up and turn on a movie, once im not worried about sleeping I usually pass out.

[Dirtcrasher]

I take 1 Ambien and 2 Lorezapams, gets me a solid 6-7 hours. Nothing else works, my mind never stops, it tries solving the mysteries of evolution (and shop/buisness issues) all night long. Without them, I get a couple hours, even 3 days of that I get next to no sleep.

Turn the clock away; And the TV on super low with the sleep timer on works great with my meds..............

[bkm]

DC, I'm the same way. My mind just won't quit. It thinks about every damn thing under the sun, sometimes good, sometimes bad. If I have a new project in mind, I'll lay there and won't be able to fall asleep because I'm already modifying the hell out of it.

I will say this though, I have many times been frustrated with a project, try to go to sleep, and while laying there I'll solve the problems that have been giving me fits all day. Go out there the next day and everything falls into place. Its seems to make up for the lack of sleep the night before.

[hillbilly 200x]

use your sleeping area for sleeping only. if you start hanging out in your room, watching tv, using it as a area for day time activities it can make it harder to sleep. I experienced this when i broke my back and spent most my time in my room during the day.
make sure your comfortable, i use a fan pointed strait at me, this way i can use blankets (i like the weight of blankets on me) and its a good source of white noise which i really need.

Another problem i have is sleeping in too late. once i can't sleep till 5am, i start over by getting up very early and going to bed at 10-11. then i slowly stay up later and later till i force myself to restart and wake up super early again. right now i have been up till 4-6am lately and getting up at 12-1pm...summer time parties lol
Tylenol PM works horrible for me, gives me restless legs

also, if im stressed about not being able to sleep, i wont be able to sleep. I som,etimes have to give up and turn on a movie, once im not worried about sleeping I usually pass out. lol like this 128571 I am going to trike trike porn and tylenol tonight lol :w00t:

[yooperman]

i usual surf the net 3WW, facebook, ebay ECT, most of the time when i cant sleep. like the rest of you guys said not being able to sleep REALLY BL0WS the bites the big one, especially when ya use to sleep like a rock, heck a tornado could wipe out my house right around me and i would still not wake up back when i use to sleep good. The cause of mine aint medical though mines in my head, because up until i would say it was about 3/4's of the way through my deployment when not being able to sleep started. Well thats when i really started noticing it anyways, it wasnt to bad at that time was just waking up an hour or two earlier and tossing and turning more then usual. And it has just been down hill since then now i average about around four hours sleep now give or take some and constantly tossing and turning and waking up and going back to sleep right away.

I get really bad stretches every now and then that i dont get hardly any sleep, when these stretch's hit me i either get no sleep at all or i get like under any hour. What i have notice though when these stretches hit me they dont last to long they usually last from around 2 to 5 days then i go back to my usual sleep schedule around four hours a nite. i pretty much know what to expect when these stretches hit me i keep track of them in a log book with like how long they last when they hit me, how long it was since the last one ect. it usual hits on average between once a month or once every couple months, it REALLY sucks when you want to sleep and you just cant.

I wont take sleeping meds or aid's to make or help me sleep because i dont want to get dependent on them for sleep. I know people that take them they get depend on them to where they cant sleep at all with out them, and i dont want to take that chance of getting dependent on them and lose what sleep i get if i dont have the sleeping meds. So i just buck it and take it as it comes, because just like the great joe dirt said " you gotta keep on keepin on" lol or another one he said is "lifes a garden dig it "lol.

[jordan_muirhead]

DC, I'm the same way. My mind just won't quit. It thinks about every damn thing under the sun, sometimes good, sometimes bad. If I have a new project in mind, I'll lay there and won't be able to fall asleep because I'm already modifying the hell out of it.

i know exactly what you mean, normally with vehicles tho lol


I will say this though, I have many times been frustrated with a project, try to go to sleep, and while laying there I'll solve the problems that have been giving me fits all day. Go out there the next day and everything falls into place. Its seems to make up for the lack of sleep the night before.

this happens to me quite a bit also, its kinda weird, and then i end up frustrated with something else 10 minutes later...

[Mr_RPM]

Its 2am and i cant sleep. my whole schedule is outta wack. lol so 3ww it is hahaha

[hillbilly 200x]

3ww is always what seem to put me in a sleepy mood it must be the love for trike. lol

[NOSBIGSHOT]

Beat it till it bleeds then beat it for bleeding !!!



Every night for the passed three weeks it is the same thing I can't trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro sleep:mad:. I am tired but I can't close my eyes I just lay there and roll around like a fish out of water. What do all of you do to fall asleep at night. This really sucks!! Thanks I just needed to vent. Aaron

[hillbilly 200x]

^^^^ ahahahahaha lmfao

[bigworm626]

I've had sleep apnea for more then 6 years now, I'm getting to the point were i'm only getting 3hr of sleep. I think eventually I'll just drop sleeping at all. That way I'll have more time to do other things. Like the villian said in the 007 movie dia another day, "you can sleep all you want when you dead." I believe.

[jordan_muirhead]

everybody tells me to get melatonin pills...but id rather spend money on my trike:D

[badass350x]

Just 3 night caps of JD and its a great night every night!!!

[jordan_muirhead]

lol, i get on here every night.....its the only thing to do that keeps my attention...im easily distracted

[Tri-Z 250]

I truely feel for guys like BKM who are forced to work swing shifts...been there and had difficulties coming home at 6am as the sun is coming up. I began drinking and found myself getting rutted into a pattern just to sleep. It's good to hear you found a way out of your rut. Now for me it's the twins, 3yrs of waking up in the middle of the night. Juice,water,wetbed, I'm scared...it's been ruff but we've turned the corner in just the last month or 2. We switched over our daycare person, who won't let them sleep-in or take naps after 3pm, NO TV outside all day. This helps the evening ruteen out much better. As for me I still wake up and I'm always the last to lock the door and shut the house down. I'm looking forward to a solid 8hrs soon to be had. Not that I haven't had a few here and there...its weird those few times I woke up feeling like I just put my head down. The past few years there are times I've just flat out passed out from pure lack of sleep. I know about the mind in high gear and nights of wondering about things. I don't like pills and the days of drinking every night are long gone for me...wish you all a restful slumber. GOODNIGHT!

[bkm]

What sucks about my shift is that just as I get used to nights or days, I'm right back to the next shift. 28 days just isn't long enough to get used to one or the other. When I first started we rotated every 6 weeks, so your body got used to a certain shift a little better. It has been nice being pill free though and it seems that I only need about 5-6 hours of sleep anymore though. Any longer and my body starts to ache.

[Vealmonkey]

I feel your pain. I work a rotating shift and my shift changes every week!!! Then I get to deal with whatever the company works on the weekend. People on here who know me also know how crazy my life is. On the weekend, I may work anywhere from an 8 hour to an 18 hour day. I don't sleep well at all. I often get a couple hour sleep here and there. Crazy stuff.

[bkm]

Damn Veal. I can't even begin to imagine that. I thought mine was bad, hell I don't hold a candle to that.

[Vealmonkey]

It pays the bills. I've worked these shifts for so long now, that I really don't know any other way. I don't think I could work a regular Monday thru Friday job and work all daylights and have weekends off. It's whacky that a person can deal with it, if you call what I do or how I live dealing with it. Sometimes I work from 8am Saturday morning until 2 or 3am Sunday morning and have to be back at work at 8pm Sunday night for the beginning of the night shift rotation. My social life sucks and my love life....What love life!!!! LOL If I get reallly sleep deprived, I'm even a bigger horses butt than I usually am! LOL Needless to say I really value my time off and my vacations. My one big luxury....I have a guy that mows my yard. It's so nice not to have to cut my grass when I get some time off, that you just wouldn't believe it. My schedule is also the reason alot of times that my projects often poke along, cause it's hard to get any consecutive time to work on things. Thanks goodness for good friends who have more skills at alot of things than I do and have helped me in so many ways.

[fabiodriven]

People are too reliant on drugs for everything. Drugs are bad, legal or not. They are chemicals that otherwise wouldn't be in your body.

Simple solution- Exercise. Burn yourself out. The only other thing I might do is blaze a little chronic.

Pills are not the solution people. Your government wants everybody hooked on pills. Refuse, resist.

[thestud25]

I mostly agree with Fabio. Work out, stretch, don't eat real late and close your eyes.

[hadar]

I use a noise machine. Seems to help me. It has a thunderstorm setting that puts me right out. White noise or a fan helps for some folks as well.

[Tri-Z 250]

Hadar I've heard of those units....Think there loud enough to cover up my wife's snoring...maybe a hurrican setting?:lol:

[tri again]

Whatever we're going thru, people have been doing it for millions of years,
beyond religion and philosophy, of course.

In one line of work, I have seen every conceivable combination of every
possible chemical known to man.
Most problems come with mixing chemicals.
If someone is trying to gain a certain effect, sleep, awake or states in between,
there are infinitely less problems with single exposures.

That being said, zoloft and proZAK etc were wonder drugs of the 90's.
Then people took years to taper down and get off them.
Now they are implicated in Major childhood defects...and these people thought they were depressed before!
Celebrex is also a wonder drug for those of us in chronic pain, but it's
also great at producing heart conduction problems.

Opioids are getting more popular after thousands of years but people
and drug companies love them too much.
Generally, your liver understands those compounds and they are less toxic
than coffee but they mix them with toxic doses of tylenol, the #1 cause of liver failure
in the USA
Just remember the stories of anyone trying to quit anything.
Most crap only works for a short time, at best anyway but can be a stepping stone to
balance and should be regarded., feared and appreciated as such.

Middle o' winter, our receptionist said that 90% of patient calls were for depression
and all it's related issues.

I like the last few entries.

Balance the day.
Fix something, break something (creative destruction/ remodel projest type stuff)
, look forward to something.
Plan a vacation, even if it seems you can't go right now.

Get your heart rate up for a few minutes even of you have to run in place.
It changes all sorts of body and brain chemistry.
The biggest thing is be creative.
Not crossword puzzles or fixing regular impossible things, altho those activities help
but real creativity.
Goofy country music lyrics. Heck, someone just might buy them.
Pick up a music instrument even of you can't play.

What did our ancestors do? How did our psyches' evolve enough for us to survive?
They survived by being creative every day.

One new thing I heard recently is that most states have lotto or some form of legal gambling. scratch its etc
There is usually an 800 number for free counseling.
All you gotta do is mention gambling scares you or MAY be an issue (real or imagined)
and you can qualify for $150/hr sessions...and then talk about ANYthing you want
from marriage and family, to $ to kids and on and on.

There is also a new support group for people who can't stop talking.
It's called on and on anon.