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Adam L
10-15-2011, 06:47 PM
Since I am a big truck junkie more than trikes, who is with me for next years rodeo. If I can shoehorn the KT in the narrow hood I might be able to
have some fun with these guys.

http://youtu.be/BVh3nueHzCo

dcreel
10-15-2011, 07:01 PM
I'm a big truck junkie too. I've been to some rodeos in California. Mostly timed course driving. I've owned Freightliners and Pete's.. I'm a Peterbilt guy for life...

Adam L
10-15-2011, 07:06 PM
Sweet.. I restored a 62KW and love it. Have been looking for a narrow hood pete to maybe play around with but havent found any yet.

KASEY
10-15-2011, 08:16 PM
KT= HEAVY AND SLOW... i have a c-18 cat motor in the shop right now,, its 900 hp and has a warranty ,, thats at 1800 rpm,, balanced up i have seen these motors turn 2600 rpm,,,, 1500 hp is pretty easy to reach too....

dcreel
10-15-2011, 10:00 PM
My Freightliner had a Cummins and my Pete had a 425 Cat, and the Caterpillar motor was twice the motor my Cummins was.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-15-2011, 10:40 PM
KT= HEAVY AND SLOW... i have a c-18 cat motor in the shop right now,, its 900 hp and has a warranty ,, thats at 1800 rpm,, balanced up i have seen these motors turn 2600 rpm,,,, 1500 hp is pretty easy to reach too....

Dang Kasey! IS there ANYTHING you dont go big with??!! LOL! :beer


Those boys are putting down some serious ponies! Looks like they are probably pulling near 100k on the decks of those doubles....

Stonewall
10-15-2011, 10:47 PM
Big trucks are my favorite! We have 4 mid 80's trucks that we use to haul grain, 2 extended hood Pete's, one standard Pete, and a KW W900. All were origionally equipped with sleepers; which we removed a few years ago and shortened the frames. All four of them have 3406 Cat engines and Eaton 15 speeds. That 3406 is a damn fine engine. They'll pull a 90,000lb + trailer load of beans out of a soft field at idle. Not to mention nothin' beats the sound of a 8" straight pipe on a diesel.:D

Nothin' beats a Pete.

KASEY
10-15-2011, 10:49 PM
i work with BIG equipment.. so naturally everything is BIGGER ... we use to have 3412 cats but we bought the last 5 mechanical governor engines avalible,,, these were right at 1000 hp. so now we have to deal with the new series motors,, the c-18 is a 6 cylinder vs the 3412 v 12 ,, half as many cylinders and the same power???? think it is going to last as long?? 25,000 hours?/ HELL NO .... so now we have a 3456 twin turboed 6 cylinder 950 hp.... i have one with 6000 hours and its already showing bad signs in the oil samples,,,,, looks like cat is going backwards on dependability and realiability.... we are currently looking at cummins newest generation motors ,,,,,,,,,,,

Stonewall
10-15-2011, 10:51 PM
Since I am a big truck junkie more than trikes, who is with me for next years rodeo. If I can shoehorn the KT in the narrow hood I might be able to
have some fun with these guys.

http://youtu.be/BVh3nueHzCo

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a KT?

dcreel
10-15-2011, 11:14 PM
Cummins KT600 motor

My uncle had a Cummins Big Cam 400 with KT parts Making over 700 hp in his '80 Pete

He had a switch on the dash that would change his cam timing. Black smoke/no smoke so he could run in California

My first truck ('85 Freightliner)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/cabover.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/brazil.jpg

2nd truck ('86 Pete Extended Hood 425 Cat 15 over)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/Pete2.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/rtside.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/front.jpg

My uncles '80 Pete (He laid it over in MO after being hit by 3 time drunk driver, It's now a dump truck in MO)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/wallys.jpg

Downtown Chicago

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/chicago.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/Cars%20and%20Trucks/rearview.jpg

KASEY
10-15-2011, 11:30 PM
THE ONLY PARTS INTERCHANGABLE BETWEEN A BIG CAM AND A KT IS THE FUEL PUMP!! and all you have to do is setup a different cpl number in the pump to make hp! 600 hp in a big cam is pretty easy,,

KASEY
10-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what's a KT?

th k-line engines were a larger industrial engine big cam motors were 855 ci.. whereas the kt was 1150 ci. the kt has 6 individual heads and is much larger,,, some did infact make it into trucks,, but in states like arizona they were so heavy you could be overweight on the front axle without a load,,,, but man did they have alot of torque!!!

RIDE-RED 250r
10-15-2011, 11:39 PM
i work with BIG equipment.. so naturally everything is BIGGER ... we use to have 3412 cats but we bought the last 5 mechanical governor engines avalible,,, these were right at 1000 hp. so now we have to deal with the new series motors,, the c-18 is a 6 cylinder vs the 3412 v 12 ,, half as many cylinders and the same power???? think it is going to last as long?? 25,000 hours?/ HELL NO .... so now we have a 3456 twin turboed 6 cylinder 950 hp.... i have one with 6000 hours and its already showing bad signs in the oil samples,,,,, looks like cat is going backwards on dependability and realiability.... we are currently looking at cummins newest generation motors ,,,,,,,,,,,

I hear what you are saying. Not to mention all the EPA garbage costing ALOT of money industry wide in down time, repairs and parts.... Guess thats why Cat got out of the on-highway business.

If you dont mind my asking, what is it you are working on that runs those big engines?? Industrial size generators???

I saw a custom 359 Pete once that had a twin turbo Cat, 950hp v-12. It is one C.L. Werner's show trucks. (Founder and CEO of Werner Enterprise)

dcreel
10-15-2011, 11:44 PM
THE ONLY PARTS INTERCHANGABLE BETWEEN A BIG CAM AND A KT IS THE FUEL PUMP!! and all you have to do is setup a different cpl number in the pump to make hp! 600 hp in a big cam is pretty easy,,

Yeah, you caught me. I lied... :rolleyes: UGHHHH... You can have your thread back..

I should have capitalized that for more visual impact..

KASEY
10-16-2011, 12:00 AM
atcually cat is getting into the on-hiway big.. google ct-660 caterpillars new highway truck its in the testing phase for the class 8 truck,, but i have seen one at our cat dealer,,, they are having issues with epa controls right now ,,, but i think next year they will be out on the highways around the world,,, of course the proto type is YELLOW!!!

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71622&stc=1&d=1291398788

Stonewall
10-16-2011, 12:35 AM
Thanks for the clarificaton on the KT!

Those are some good looking trucks, Dcreel... 379 extended hood Pete is IMO the most beautiful truck on the road.
Ours aren't very pretty, a couple of them have over 2 million miles (we buy used...), but they get the job done. We like the 3406's because they're easy to work on and get parts for, and they're all we really need.

dcreel
10-16-2011, 02:13 AM
I agree, they aren't the most aerodynamic for sure. But I love the look of a big hood. I liked my Cummins mostly for the rattle the jake would make with 6" straight pipes. Other drivers would have me hit the jake next to them so they could hear it again. The Cat was relatively quiet with 6" straights and no muffler. I was an owner operator for 5 years, it was great. But too many tickets and being home 10 times in a year takes a toll on you after a while. I may be getting back in a big truck soon. Looking forward to it, pulling a rock bucket around again.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-16-2011, 08:55 AM
Ya know Kasey, I had heard recently that Cat was possibly going to buy out International and keep it as their on-highway division. Cat did get out of on-highway 2 or 3 years ago. My brother works at an International dealership, he is the one who told me that. The Cat proto you posted looks alot like a International Pro-star. Looks like there is some truth to that rumor.

Adam L
10-16-2011, 12:03 PM
very cool pics of those old school large cars. Agreed that the KT is heavy but they can handle much more power than the new E motors. I have some buddies that are laying down big numbers with K,s that cat guys can get close to but dont stay together. Were talking around 3000hp, Sigma pumps and 4 snails the size of five gallon buckets. There were some dudes from Aussie that built a truck with An E Model cat and converted it to Mechanical. The end result was nasty but they had over 150K in the build.

Adam L
10-16-2011, 12:18 PM
My truck. 62KW 925. 6x4 with OD on both sticks but baby motor...335

133585

dcreel
10-16-2011, 12:28 PM
Wow.. Very nice.. Pulling a rock bucket.. even better.. Awesome

fabiodriven
10-16-2011, 06:53 PM
I've been a truck driver for over 10 years now. The only one I ever owned was my Deuce-

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/fabiodriven/deuce/P5220361.jpg

It had a multi-fuel so it ran on anything. I ran it on straight waste oil. A regular Deuce mill is 130 HP. This truck had a bigger motor swapped in from a 5-ton and was 190 HP. They're supposed to run at 8-10 PSI boost. This truck ran at close to 20. I absolutely loved it. I wish I still had it. :cry:


atcually cat is getting into the on-hiway big.. google ct-660 caterpillars new highway truck its in the testing phase for the class 8 truck,, but i have seen one at our cat dealer,,, they are having issues with epa controls right now ,,, but i think next year they will be out on the highways around the world,,, of course the proto type is YELLOW!!!

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71622&stc=1&d=1291398788

I've been hearing about this truck for over a year now and this is the first picture I have seen of it. I must say that is a huge disappointment in the styling department. Caterpillar is so big now in every aspect, not even just equipment. Every day you see people wearing CAT shirts, Cat stickers on people's cars, CAT everything. That truck is not going to stand out from the crowd one bit. If they had done it right it could have been a truck that you saw coming and watched it go by. That thing just looks like a base line KW ant-eater or a Sterling or something. Gay.

myles
10-16-2011, 07:31 PM
133600 This is the only Cat Truck north of the border, being tested up here in Toronto, looks a little better than that yellow one.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-16-2011, 10:40 PM
I've been a truck driver for over 10 years now. The only one I ever owned was my Deuce-



It had a multi-fuel so it ran on anything. I ran it on straight waste oil. A regular Deuce mill is 130 HP. This truck had a bigger motor swapped in from a 5-ton and was 190 HP. They're supposed to run at 8-10 PSI boost. This truck ran at close to 20. I absolutely loved it. I wish I still had it. :cry:



I've been hearing about this truck for over a year now and this is the first picture I have seen of it. I must say that is a huge disappointment in the styling department. Caterpillar is so big now in every aspect, not even just equipment. Every day you see people wearing CAT shirts, Cat stickers on people's cars, CAT everything. That truck is not going to stand out from the crowd one bit. If they had done it right it could have been a truck that you saw coming and watched it go by. That thing just looks like a base line KW ant-eater or a Sterling or something. Gay.

Like I said earlier. Rumors going round about Cat buying out International and keeping them going as Cat's on-highway division. Cat quit making on-highway engines about 3 years ago. That yellow truck Kasey posted is an International Pro-Star with Cat emblems on it.

Chazz of Blades
10-17-2011, 02:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLzhRJcjJwk&feature=related


Now this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the world is SUPPOSED to work. :P

fabiodriven
10-17-2011, 08:35 AM
Like I said earlier. Rumors going round about Cat buying out International and keeping them going as Cat's on-highway division. Cat quit making on-highway engines about 3 years ago. That yellow truck Kasey posted is an International Pro-Star with Cat emblems on it.

I knew that looked familiar. That makes sense. Still gay though.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLzhRJcjJwk&feature=related


Now this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the world is SUPPOSED to work. :P

That was friggin awesome.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-17-2011, 08:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLzhRJcjJwk&feature=related


Now this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the world is SUPPOSED to work. :P

Its amazing what a difference it makes having that steer axle pulling too!