How do u know shaft is locked up

[jeigsk]

when 3 wheeler is not runnig i put it in gear will not move foward but moves back freely is not right i could not get it start it an old tri was not running for 3 or 4 year a least i pulled it behind truck to bump start it started but tires did not move freely and when put back in Neutral it dies

[El Camexican]

Recommend you open up the cases to see what sort of shrapnel is in there and brush up on the grammar before posting what you find if you are still looking for help.

[tripowersport]

It might be the bottom-end, He told me he pulled it with a truck 20mph and put it in 1st gear.

[El Camexican]

It might be the bottom-end, He told me he pulled it with a truck 20mph and put it in 1st gear.

OMG, I hope it was on loose gravel and not pavement:rolleyes:

[tripowersport]

I think He told me, but I couldn't understand him. he cleaned the carb, but the only ways to start it is to compression start it and when he stops it dies, crank seals?

[jeigsk]

i was trying to get help not grammar lessons it was not 20 i just said cause u were being rude and it was on gravel this is not my fist try at this my dad has been mechanic his whole life so know my way around a shop and tools i have never had a shaft driven atv. ive all was had chain driven this 3 wheeler is in ruff shape it fixer upper so if u have had any thing this happen let me thanks by it not grammar it im bad with key board

[jeigsk]

key boarding skill if that make more sense

[jeigsk]

ok when 3 wheeler is in gear it does not move forward but moves backwards freely is this right. it is shaft driven and yes cleaned the carb do u think the shaft is locked up or is this normal. when i pulled it be hide the truck i got it to start but the tires were locking up. is there any reason y it would do this. im trying to get answer sorry about the grammar im really getting up set with this project. sorry i was not watching what i was typing.but when u answer with half baked answer and u do not understand what one is asking that does not help so u do not understand what some one is asking maybe u should keep your answers to your self thank for the help

[El Camexican]

Having read your posts (a number of times) I am convinced that the best thing for you, your "tri" and the well-being of the three wheeler world in general is that you part it out and get a quad, preferably one that is running. Best regards.

[jeigsk]

that not what advise i was looking for already have have honda 200 x that is like brand new the three wheeler can be fixed it not that bad i will keep looking for advise thank

[jeigsk]

have you ever fixed one that had not been running or has not been running for couple or years

[muthey]

first off a shaft driven yamaha has a ton of torque in first gear and it will lock the tires up when trying to bump start it you should always try to bump start in third or fourth gear. Also yes it will not move forward in first, but freely in reverse, as the clutch is centrifugal and only engages when spinning the right way. Now on to why it won't run, I will give you a check list of things to do, and after that then check back with us.

change oil and oil filter, and check for metal shavings
clean carb thoroughly
clean fuel tank and petcock
do a compression, and leak down test
check spark, and look for bad connections
after all that and everything is good, but it still won't stay running, I want you to take the carb back off and clean it again, this time be even more thorough, if you need I have a link to a repair manual that can show you all the parts to the carb including some jets and o-rings that are really tucked away and can give you a major migraine.

[jeigsk]

you sound more like a rider then mechanic do u know and mechanic i can talk to

[jeigsk]

thank u some who know what they are talking about ive done alot that on your check list the spark is blue instead of white im working on that

[jeigsk]

new spark plug connection all good beside the shut off switch has been removed by some else wire were cut underneath check with meter to make was same wire that were in the switch all other connection were good i will be taking carb back apart it normal thing for me to do. i like to keep them clean i might be replacing the floats the they looked like they had burn marks on the float

[jeigsk]

changed oil and checked for metal shaving it was good i might have to rebuild carb thank u for your help :twisted: the throttle housing was broke had to make own throttle cable it might be short it a twist type so will also be redoing that ive got more work those other guy did not know what they were really talk about thank u so much i almost gave up on this web page

[jeigsk]

i know im on the right track. the rolling back wards was scaring me but now i knowing it what suppose to do that work they tell me take case off i was think they might be :crazy: thank again

[tripowersport]

Having read your posts (a number of times) I am convinced that the best thing for you, your "tri" and the well-being of the three wheeler world in general is that you part it out and get a quad, preferably one that is running. Best regards. I agree You have 105 views and 2 people trying to help......:wondering Good luck tho.

[jeigsk]

i got the help i need thank tho i think u might think twice before putting your two cent in again the reason for 105 view is the grammar thank for that you come as very rude and not much help

[tripowersport]

that not what advise i was looking for already have have honda 200 x that is like brand new the three wheeler can be fixed it not that bad i will keep looking for advise thank who is rude, some one was helping you.

[tripowersport]

have you ever fixed one that had not been running or has not been running for couple or years who is rude, some one was helping you.

[tripowersport]

who is rude. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/145178-yamaha-200e-moves-in-reverse-freely-when-gear-why

[tripowersport]

Oh, I still wish you good luck anyway.

[jeigsk]

if you want to call the advise you give help and yes you were rude telling some to check there grammar instead of asking what they mean is rude you do not tell some one on three wheeler world to part out there 3 wheeler and get a four wheeler that just dumb

[tripowersport]

That wasn't me, but i did quote "Having read your posts (a number of times) I am convinced that the best thing for you, your "tri" and the well-being of the three wheeler world in general is that you part it out and get a quad, preferably one that is running. Best regards." , sorry.?.

[jeigsk]

your right i thought i was talking to mex sorry but it all good do you know how i can change the topic of the page or do i just have to start a new page

[tripowersport]

I think new page.

[jeigsk]

does any know were to get manual for carb on this 200e i want to make sure it a there

[tripowersport]

ytm200. http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/

[jeigsk]

i it will not load the page

[tripowersport]

huh, I tried it 3 times it worked for me idk sorry.

[jeigsk]

that ok thank the page come up but when click on the next step pull up blank page

[tripowersport]

it takes a long time to load, i'm down loading it now and ill try to copy and paste it for you.

[tripowersport]

I have it now but I cant paste it in here, pm private message me your email and i will email it to you.

[muthey]

the oscarmayer page loads for me and if you right click on the link to the manual, you can download it which will be easier to use than trying to load the manual on the net every time, also here is a link to the carb disassembled for you http://www.hondapartshouse.net/pages/OemParts?aribrand=HOM#/Yamaha/YTM200EK_-_1983/CARBURETOR/YTM200EK_%281983_ALL_TERRAIN_VEHICLE%29/CARBURETOR_%28YTM200EK_-_1983%29
or http://www.hondapartshouse.net/pages/OemParts?aribrand=HOM#/Yamaha/YTM200K_-_1983/CARBURETOR_YTM200K/YTM200K_%281983_ALL_TERRAIN_VEHICLE%29/CARBURETOR_YTM200K_%28YTM200K_-_1983%29
depending on which carb you have

[tripowersport]

I think he has a 84ytm200e, I sent him the ytm200 one. Thanks for helping tho.

[tripowersport]

Where did you find that on the honda site?

[tripowersport]

lol, never mind wrong page.

[tripowersport]

http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/yamaha-parts.aspx?aribrand=YAM#/Yamaha/YTM200EL_-_1984/CARBURETOR/YTM200EL_(1984_ALL_TERRAIN_VEHICLE)/CARBURETOR_(YTM200EL_-_1984) 84ytm200el.

[jeigsk]

that ok i have honda 200x as well my hat off to both of u hAVE been alot help got all back together but still can not get it to start with rope cleaned carb realy good wire carb cleaner i thinK spark plug problems might be the case have new spark plug but spark is blue it shouLd be white right

[Greenthumb]

Check your spark timing. Also could be you sheared a flywheel key when bump starting or jumped out of time even. Use a rubber ended air hose to blow out the carb better when cleaning. Is the plug wet after your failed attempts to start it?

[tripowersport]

No blue is good.

[jeigsk]

what plug are speaking of

[jeigsk]

i got it spark plug ill check that next time i try thx and air hose one of the jet was plug i got it unplug with carb cleaner can see through it now could not before

[jeigsk]

if spark plug is not wet then what

[tripowersport]

No fuel, Re clean the carb. You wont believe how many times I had to, the jets keep blocking up. I cleaned the gas tank and putt on a LOT of new paper fuel filter till it was clean, then put on a new one. 4 of my dx's did it I was SO p-off but that worked for me, I wasted a lot on the filters tho. Good luck.

[muthey]

there is a jet in the float bowl called the starter jet, it can be the bane of your existence if it is plugged, also it is a pain to get out. look on the carb diagram that I linked for you and you will see where it is, if you cant get it out run a torch tip file in it till it is unplugged, and blow compressed air through it, also, check the float height you might not be getting enough fuel in the carb to get it to start. These mikuni carbs can be a major pain, but in the end once you have figured out all the quirks they are not all that bad.

[tripowersport]

there is a jet in the float bowl called the starter jet, it can be the bane of your existence if it is plugged, also it is a pain to get out. look on the carb diagram that I linked for you and you will see where it is, if you cant get it out run a torch tip file in it till it is unplugged, and blow compressed air through it, also, check the float height you might not be getting enough fuel in the carb to get it to start. These mikuni carbs can be a major pain, but in the end once you have figured out all the quirks they are not all that bad. Thank you I always wanted to know what a starter jet was, I could never figure it out lol. thanks.