'84 200X. Time to rebuild

[M.Pargiello]

After seeing this 200X being hoarded at the dealer,

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG-20120804-WA0001.jpg

My search began the following Tuesday. Picked this up on Thursday. $450, '84 200X, runs & drives perfect. Zero smoke, needs very little. Already have spacers and a new adjustable pull front brake lever/mc being shipped in. Still need 20" rears, new clutch lever (just for symmetry, original works fine), maybe a 14t front, we will see how it feels with 20's. New handle bars (originals fine also), carrier bearings, and all new plastic and seat. Maybe extended shrouds also. I took it to the trails on Saturday to see how I like it. And I must say, this is my new favorite trail machine! Great overall, now its time to freshen it up.


http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120809_203942.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120809_203540.jpg

At the trails with my brother

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_115222.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_120933.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_125521.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_130546.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_150212.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120811_153419.jpg

If someone has the parts I'm looking for since I can't get to the ads yet, message me please. I also want a 6 pack rack

[tri again]

Nice pix.

Thanks for the mini vacation.
You should be able to access the classifieds.

I'm not good at ebay but lately I've been getting parts trikes for the prices of
the parts I'm looking for.

Well, up until the last few months.
Trikes seem to be going up in price.

I wonder if there's a new movie that re made them popular again.

[M.Pargiello]

Got these in at work today..

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120813_142123.jpg

Hub-centric 1" spacers. Feels a little better.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120813_184505.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120813_192427.jpg

Still need the 20's for the rear, and got a 14t front sprocket on order. Front brake mc should be here soon. Then more parts :)

[M.Pargiello]

Got more done. My adjustable brake lever and mc came, new bars & grips, 200X desert hi flite, and 6 pack rack. Just need to clean it more and get a few more parts. Have an msr aof clutch lever, DG RCM alloy exhaust, some rear tires, super scoops, and some newer rear plastic coming. Then we will see what else needs to be done :) Maintenance items include oil change, rear axle bearings and seals, carb cleaning, and other things. Some may think it looks weird, but that's fine :) I like it.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120830_191718.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120830_191838.jpg

Also got some riding videos last weekend

A couple pulls up a sand hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvIybruiYv4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

a quick run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FkqTpILgA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[archman]

cool trike. you have got a lot more done than me. but looking great.

[yaegerb]

Flip that camera to your helmet or on the front of the bike. Can't hear anything but exhaust and all I see is dust.

[M.Pargiello]

Its my phone, don't really have mounts for it. But a go pro is coming soon.

[M.Pargiello]

Got more done, extended tank shrouds, tires, functioning brake and tail light, rear axle bearings etc
154118
154119
154120
154117

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRoIDzq4vI

My wife ran into me once and the stock tail was blocked by the rack and didn't work anyway so I put that unit on

[M.Pargiello]

Got some pictures in the light, still needs a good cleaning, some paint, and a heavy thumb :)

154150
154151
154152

[STiForester]

If you need anything sandblasted and/or powdercoated let me know. I'm fast and can sen you pics of my work.

[M.Pargiello]

If you need anything sandblasted and/or powdercoated let me know. I'm fast and can sen you pics of my work.

I will be sure to take you up on that, the 200X and the TR200 are coming apart for powder coating within the year.

Got another video. I put my camera on my helmet this time, and the quality sucks......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEJFi3DYDIg

So I picked this up the next day.

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20120923_213940_zps598f861a.jpg

Can't wait to use it

[STiForester]

Ok I'm always Availible and have a fast turn around. And cheap lol I'm a fellow enthusiast. I've done quite a few 250sx and reacted rebuilds and restos.

[Slog58]

Nice trike. Ive got a real similar 200x thats been around the farm for years. Where do you get your parts from?

My Pa traded some work on a guys windrower for a rebuild on it. Runs damn good and drives nice. Only problem I have with it is the rear spring is old and gettin weak from having me (260 lbs) riding around on it. It bottoms out when coming down of a jump and just sits real low when Im on it. Do any of you know where I can get a heavier duty spring for it? Or do they even do that?

[yaegerb]

Nice trike. Ive got a real similar 200x thats been around the farm for years. Where do you get your parts from?

My Pa traded some work on a guys windrower for a rebuild on it. Runs damn good and drives nice. Only problem I have with it is the rear spring is old and gettin weak from having me (260 lbs) riding around on it. It bottoms out when coming down of a jump and just sits real low when Im on it. Do any of you know where I can get a heavier duty spring for it? Or do they even do that?

Take a look at my build thread. I just got a heavy duty spring for mine. Also, take a look at the link below, it is a stock shock with the progressive baja spring on it (you can tell because the spring is even at both ends and is not wound tight at the top). I bought one just like this and just used the spring.

Ebay link to 200x Baja spring: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Honda-ATC-200X-Rear-Shock-/320987439540?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4abc57a1b4&vxp=mtr

[M.Pargiello]

I find alot of my parts online, Craigslist, ebay, forums. I still need ALOT more to be complete, but its all in the search!


it is a stock shock with the progressive baja spring on it (you can tell because the spring is even at both ends and is not wound tight at the top).

Never knew that about the rear springs, but I believe you have your spring definitions backwards..An even wound spring (Like the baja one posted) will be a linear rate.

154799

[yaegerb]

I find alot of my parts online, Craigslist, ebay, forums. I still need ALOT more to be complete, but its all in the search!



Never knew that about the rear springs, but I believe you have your spring definitions backwards..An even wound spring (Like the baja one posted) will be a linear rate.

154799



You are correct in your spring terminology, however, I was referring to the "Progressive" spring manufacturing company. Yes its a linear spring and was manufactured by Progressive and after much research found out it was entitled the "Baja". :)

Take a look at them online, link below. Progressive doesn't make the "Baja" spring anymore, but they still make the progressive front springs for the 83-85 200x.

http://www.progressivesuspension.com/prodSearchResults.aspx?yearID=1985&makeID=32&modelID=299

[Firsttrike]

Very nice! I'd say you stole that for $450! Great job.

[M.Pargiello]

Thanks for the info yaegerb! I plan on rebuilding the suspension on it as well. I would like to swap to 350X front forks, and use the 200X forks and disc on the TR200.

Yeah firsttrike, that's why I jumped on it! :)

[Slog58]

Sorry to get off topic of this thread, but yaegerb that thing is awesome. That spring on Ebay is a heavy duty spring? Just wondering cause it doesnt say anything on the sale page about it

[yaegerb]

Sorry to get off topic of this thread, but yaegerb that thing is awesome. That spring on Ebay is a heavy duty spring? Just wondering cause it doesnt say anything on the sale page about it

The spring I pointed out on EBAY is a Heavy Duty Progressive Mfg. "baja" spring on a OEM 200x shock body. Thanks for the sentiments. Sorry for the derail Matt :)

[M.Pargiello]

No worries, but Matt is my brother :) I am Mike. You arent the first to call me Matt on here though, don't know where it came from haha

[yaegerb]

Sorry Mike

[M.Pargiello]

Haha, don't even worry about it

[JacobM]

nice 200x! makes me want to find one!

[belly]

Coming along nice! How do you like the 1" wheel spacers?

[M.Pargiello]

Coming along nice! How do you like the 1" wheel spacers?

I would definitely prefer an extended axle, but they do their job. And they better for about $60 for the set!

[M.Pargiello]

Couple overdue updates..

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121206_212730.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121206_210608.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121206_204646.jpg

New bars, chain, sprockets, brakes, bearings, etc.. Lots more done than pictured, but no need to fill this with words.

Got a DG RCM, all new Maier plastics, 200X rear and 3rd gen 250R front, Cables, Galfer stainless lines, 300EX hubs and some other goodies coming soon :) Very dirty in these pictures, but rest assured it is clean and put away until next time

[M.Pargiello]

More. Didn't like the metal mulisha grips either. Here are some new pics with fresh maiers and Renthal grips. Fork seal covers, 350X light, clutch cable, 250R front, 200X rears, and a full DG RCM

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121225_162809.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121225_162736.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121225_170847.jpg
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG_20121225_171008.jpg

As usual, more to come :)

[M.Pargiello]

Forgot these for certain occasions

http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/96RedCav/IMG-20121215-WA0001.jpg

[jsmay]

That looks real good man! I like the new seat too! I'm thinking of redoing my x for trails instead of flat track.

[crjanow]

nice 200x, loved the fatcat

[M.Pargiello]

Thanks guys! Jsmay, I mainly ride wooded trails up here in MI, but I love throwing this little guy sideways!

[Hippie459MN]

Looking good. Is there any way you can get a close up of your front brake lever and MC? I was thinking of doing the same deal with a remote MC as mine is about shot. Looks like its going to fall apart if I take the cover off of it. lol

Also, what lever did you use?

[M.Pargiello]

It was some cheapie from ebay. It is gone in the most recent pictures because it was junk. I got a standard mx mc coming. It was always soft and leaked a little so I tossed it.

[M.Pargiello]

Well, tore the engine out today. Getting ported and a larger main jet for sure and possibly a bigger cam. Going to refinish the engine and frame while its apart as well.

160418
160419

I rode the P3 around before tearing into it and can't figure out why I don't ride it more! I love that thing

[M.Pargiello]

And the teardown begins... Doing the engine in the mechanical room of my place. Much warmer than a Michigan shop in january :)
160420

One of the CDI cover screws snapped off while removing it. Fun fun.... No biggie. If I can't get it out I will just replace the plate. Other than that, it is coming apart easily for it's age.

[M.Pargiello]

No pics, but I sent off the head for porting today. Should be back within the week. Then it goes back together with fresh paint and an XR200 cam. Along with some other tricks this thing should really wake up

[M.Pargiello]

Didn't get the frame powder coated, but I don't care. If it was going to be fully restored I would, but it's a rider so I left it as is and just did the engine. Got one picture of it on the stand in the shop and a quick clip of it idling today. Going tomorrow to get the carb set. It bogs a little in the last 1/4 of throttle, shouldn't be hard to fix. Also have my jeswinehart number plate on now too :)

161321

[yaegerb]

Looking good!

[M.Pargiello]

Messed up on posting the clip. It feels alot better now with the engine work I did, it will wheelie just with a quick throttle punch :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azK7_yE9rBs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[M.Pargiello]

Messed with the carb today, took it to a local shop run by a friend (same guy who did my port job) ended up with a 125 main jet and the top end bog is gone :) Feels quite a bit more powerful than before, still needs fine tuning to be 100%

[M.Pargiello]

Ok, now that I am thinking about it, I can assume that I will be better off running the XR200 carb and jetting that accordingly? Velocity may drop a bit in the bottom end but once the engine is spinning this won't be an issue. Along with a lightened flywheel and XR200 piston this should squeeze a bit more out from what I understand. Not looking to build a crazy racer, just a snappy trail machine that will keep up on the track. Thanks for any input!

[yaegerb]

Ok, now that I am thinking about it, I can assume that I will be better off running the XR200 carb and jetting that accordingly? Velocity may drop a bit in the bottom end but once the engine is spinning this won't be an issue. Along with a lightened flywheel and XR200 piston this should squeeze a bit more out from what I understand. Not looking to build a crazy racer, just a snappy trail machine that will keep up on the track. Thanks for any input!

Hey Mike, go to my profile page and in my albums sections there is an article on what carb and manifold to use for that XR200 swap. All the information you need to know is there besides the jetting. That should get you pointed in the right direction.

[M.Pargiello]

Thanks for the info! I will definitely be doing all the little things that I can while keeping it reliable and fun to rip on. I plan on running it in mx this year at TF so as long as I can keep up and manage a decent position, I'll be happy

here is a quick pic after ripping in the snow earlier :) and some of the damage I found that made me rebuild the engine. Spotted this while adjusting the valves so I stopped right there and pulled the engine. Im glad I did because now it is better than ever
161612
161613

Long story short, I found my rocker adjustment stud and lock nut sitting in the top end. The bike had some clickity clack so I went to adjust it and found that. Not good, but all is well now and it runs strong :)

[CodyRosa]

Nice looking trike Mike! Hey what are those boots on the forks? Where the rubber boots normally are.

[M.Pargiello]

Thanks, they are a set of Pro Line seal covers. They are pretty fun to wrestle on, but they keep dirt off the seals and wipe the tubes when they compress. Worth every bit of the $5 they cost. I just got sick of one of my boots being ripped and didn't want to replace them with more boots. I did buy a set of boots for the TR200 when I rebuilt it and I love those as well

[CodyRosa]

When you get the chance could you maybe send the link to find them? With both my wheelers I got them with nice boots with no tears.. first week and they get tears. lol how that's possible is beyond me. Do they come in other colors than black?
Thanks

[M.Pargiello]

I will see if I can find it. My dad took it out one weekend when I first got it. Somehow he ended up on his side with a small tree on the forks between the fender and tire. Split one of the perfect boots :( still don't know how he managed that

[M.Pargiello]

An updated picture

161790

Going to be in the shop in a week or so to get the Magura hydraulic clutch fitted. Need to modify it a little. Also more carb tuning. She pulls hard in the middle but loses it up top.

[CodyRosa]

Looking good! I finally bought my bearings so maybe I can get mine to look this good =)
Good luck with the rest of it!

[clmeue37]

Looking good!
Quick question for ya Mike. Since you ride our beautiful Michigan trails are you going to figure out how to get a spark arrester on the RCM? Only reason I'm asking is because I have the RCM exhaust on my quad and am still searching for a USFS approved screen that fits nicely.

[M.Pargiello]

That is in the works :)

I will definitely post up what one fits when I find it. Shouldn't be hard, I need to watch out for sound levels mainly. There are some loud ass quads where I ride, but this already draws attention just being an ATC :) DNR hasn't poked around it too much yet

[clmeue37]

I'll try and remember to post up some pics of the end-cap I made for mine.

[shadowmike]

hi i like the work you have done to your 200x.i live in lowell and plan to bring my 200x into my michigan winter workshop (basement) and tear into the motor.i hoping its just the top end.could you tell me where you take your parts for work to be done or suggest a good place.thanks

[M.Pargiello]

I do almost all my own work, even machine work. I took the head from my 200X to a good friend who runs a small shop simply because I trust his work, haven't had anything done by him before, and it freed up some time on my end for the rest of the build. I have ridden many bikes he has built and can vouch for it, as well as many from local mx tracks. I have done my own port work in the past on other machines and my own project cars. If you want you can contact me and I can set you up with Dave who runs ASR in Grandville. Small hole in the wall place, so no website or anything. Great guy and quality work. If you are just looking to rebuild and don't feel comfortable doing it, you can bring it to me and I will do it no problem. Just get the parts and drop it all off at my shop.

[shadowmike]

thanks for the reply. the motor is seized up so im gonna get into it and see what i can find. i have never worked on a 4 stroke but i guess its a good time to learn.i just hope things arent too ugly when i tear it open.i dont know if it was run without oil or what happened to it.this looks like a real good site so im gonna read up till i get the motor inside.i know its its gonna need some cylinder work done.ill send you a PM when i get a look at it if thats ok.

[M.Pargiello]

Fine with me

[M.Pargiello]

Wow, long time no update. Not sure really what's been done since February on the 200X. Mainly been focused on riding and the building 250R's.

Well, here is a picture from getting the solid rear link and tubes dropped to check the setup for ice.

175813

And no pictures until I get back to the shop but the +4 swinger is done :) I know some of you might have comments on the length vs. power, I like hillclimbing, I don't like rolling backwards onto my bars, controls and plastics. It would cost me a lot of money if I tried shooting every hill I see since you can only ride so far forward on the tank. I had to stop in this picture. Front kept coming up, can't keep hitting the clutch either. Lose too much speed.

175817

Ill be back, hill. You just wait.

[M.Pargiello]

Cleaned up and shot with some white. The rattle can silver just doesn't seem to match the original well enough for me

175838

I might cut it up more and build an adjustable linkage, but it's fine for now

[belly]

Hill climbing with the 200x can be frustrating. The lack of torque can leave you hanging out like your one picture. I've had many hills where i've had to walk the bike back down due to just not enough power. I went down 1 tooth on the front sprocket and it did help a little. A +4 swing arm would definately help you out. The trike is looking great btw.

[M.Pargiello]

Yeah, you have to find a good groove and try to go as fast as you can for as far as you can :)

[Cornholio]

Ive never had problems going up any hills on my 200x! Hit it hard and fast! ;)

[honda200xguy]

Ive never had problems going up any hills on my 200x! Hit it hard and fast! ;). Yeah....x's have a good amount of torque...

[irishfan84n]

Looking great man, I just got a 200x from my uncle for helping him build a small shed. Didn't expect anything for helping family, but the 200x was a nice bonus! Not sure if its and '84 '85' or '86, how do you tell? is there a spot on the trike that says a year? Thanks! Keep up the great work!

[M.Pargiello]

Look right behind the headlight, there should be a tag. If not, easiest way is this

83-tubular swing arm, black seat, etc..
84-box swing arm, black sent, etc...
85-blue seat, bare forks, blue boots, red white and blue tank decals, etc..

Theres other small differences, but this should give you the year providing it is still original

[irishfan84n]

Thanks for the info. The trike is still at my uncle's house, so I will check when I pick it up on Saturday!

[Bird76Mojo]

Wow, you've got that 200 looking pretty darned good!

[M.Pargiello]

Got another update

Swinger is on! I think it looks great, now to get it back together and really give it hell

176037

176038

[Hippie459MN]

Looks awesome!

[irishfan84n]

Very Nice!

[M.Pargiello]

300ex hubs, 82 250R axle, and suspension is on, it's pretty gnarly.

176061

I put a chain on it and beat it around a bit. Not sure if I like the +4, if not there is 2 more I can play with

[Hippie459MN]

I love that stance!!!! Looks awesome. Its it tough to wheelie now? What about the 4+ dont you like?

[M.Pargiello]

Yeah, you really have to pull it up to wheelie now. I'm sure I will adjust, im just used to the stock one

[M.Pargiello]

Trike has been running great. Small changes here and there, but nothing worth documenting really. Ride it alot, and have had it out with some members from time to time.

190652
190653

Had a mishap a month or so ago, Damn strap broke and it fell out of the truck. Bent and twisted the rear upper section of the frame and my grab bar, and nothing else. Not even any scratches. Thankfully I have another good frame and that allows me to go through it for the 3rd time. Go me.

190651

[rg97]

Hey Mike, I see the powroll sticker, anything specifically from them on the bike? I love that place with all my heart (and cash!) lol