atc 250r Questions

[william16339]

i am restoring my 250r frame, i need help on wich color to powdercoat. red. blue, or black

[william16339]

i have a duralbue +4 axle, should i put 2 inch wheel spacers on it too? i trail ride but i like it wide

[william16339]

i changed my bearings and put a new axle on the 85 250r, why does it still have play back and forth? new carier?

[william16339]

some times my thumb throttle on my 250r is hard, then its easy to push on...why is it doing that? lol

[william16339]

i do not beat on my 85 250r, but it was cracked twice, by exhaust port then cradle, why might it crack?

[lazybiker79]

Did it have any rust around it?

[william16339]

is that a good idea/?

[lazybiker79]

Are you keeping red fenders?

[william16339]

not at all, i bought it with cradle cracked,,,but the top cracked when i rode it

[william16339]

im buying red maier fenders

[lazybiker79]

Yup it looks Bad A##!!!
:D

[william16339]

i have a brand new clutch cableon my 250r, but the clutch lever is still hard to pull in....maby thats how a 20 something year old machine is suposed to be like?

[lazybiker79]

Do some photo shop with a pic of your bike.. my vote is for RED

[william16339]

ik i saw it on your 500r, i was like awsome! but how does it go on? like the light with the rubber?

[william16339]

alright thanks mike, i like the black on yours...but if i do the 500r build my bike will look to much like yours LOL with the plastic and number plate now black framelol ...ill prob do red lol

[lazybiker79]

I dont know, your bike could have had a hard life.. I've never had a frame crack.

[william16339]

how hard is it to rebuild them?

[william16339]

mabe :( i dont beat on it so i dont understand why one of the strongest parts of the frame cracked

[william16339]

does any one even run one without an air box? if i do what do i have to watch out for besides puddles?

[lazybiker79]

mine is a old vintage Maier one. It has mounts for the forks with plastic screws that screw to the plate.

[william16339]

what do you guys run?

[william16339]

oh looks good!i found a few on ebay thanks

[RIDE-RED 250r]

13/39 (stock)

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Filter will get dirty faster.

[lazybiker79]

Thanks dude.. it will definitely change how your bike looks. Ive always liked how a racing 3wheeler looks.. so thats what I was going for..

[william16339]

thats what i run, thanks

[william16339]

i see, thanks

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Unless you are the person who bought it brand new in '85 then you really don't know it's entire 27 year history and what it's been through. Steel gets fatigued over years of use and sometimes cracks can occur.

[lazybiker79]

Yeah it does get dirty faster.. but you get more power :w00t:

[william16339]

yeah exactly,,i dont llike the light .....i like my 250r wide low and with a number plate lol...(not like super low like 2 inches lower than stock or less)

[william16339]

yeah my guess also

[lazybiker79]

you may parts inside it going bad.. open it up and check it out.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

But it's not a huge difference, and if you ride in any kind of wet conditions at all it's not worth the trouble. Engines don't like their fuel/air mix with a shot of water.... Great for dunes and dry condtitions though! :beer

What I have done is kind of a blend of both approaches.... I removed the snorkel pipe that connects the airbox to the main frame backbone. While it does pose a little more risk of water ingestion, it does open up the airflow alot while providing most of the protection of running the full airbox. Had to jet up 2 sizes when I removed that snorkel pipe.

That might be a better alternative for you if you want better airflow without running a full airbox eliminator setup.

[william16339]

really? i didnt know that i thought the engine just breathes beter...but it would efect jetting right

[william16339]

i oiled it and it was better but still a little hard

[lazybiker79]

I was a world of difference on mine just taking the air box lid off..
But it's not a huge difference, and if you ride in any kind of wet conditions at all it's not worth the trouble. Engines don't like their fuel/air mix with a shot of water.... Great for dunes and dry condtitions though! :beer

[lazybiker79]

really? i didnt know that i thought the engine just breathes beter...but it would efect jetting right
check your plug after and go from there.

[lazybiker79]

Did you lube the cable?

[william16339]

plug chops

[lazybiker79]

plug chops
The color of the plug.. it will show the way you need to go with jetting.

[lazybiker79]

NO check youtube..

[william16339]

yes i did cable is fine

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Really not hard at all if you are mechanically able.

We are glad to help here at 3WW, but some topics have been covered quite thoroughly and a little time searching certain topics (like fork rebuilding) should net you plenty of results. Give it a try and check back.

[william16339]

yes ride it wo then check it

[william16339]

no? what does that mean

[RIDE-RED 250r]

WOT (main jet), then midrange (slide needle position), then 1/4 throttle or less (pilot jet)....

[william16339]

ok thanks ride red

[william16339]

yup yes sir thankyou

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I'm a traditionalist, so I vote RED as well!! :beer

[william16339]

yeah same..thanks again ride red long time no see lol

[RIDE-RED 250r]

You running a shorty lever??? If yes, switch to a full length clutch lever. That will make the clutch easier to pull.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Is the play between the carrier and swingarm, or between the axle and carrier?

Are you sure you aren't mistaking bad swingarm pivot bearings for play in the axle??

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I also have the Durablue +4 on mine. I also have ITP rims with more offset than the stock R rims making my R a total of 6" wider than stock.

I rarely "trail ride" my R. I ride almost exclusively on seasonal gravel roads in Lewis County (Tug Hill) where there are long straights and sweeping curves. I absolutely LOVE how my R handles with that wide rear-end!

[200x350xtriz250]

Hey there and welcome to the site. I see you have started 10 different threads with questions you have about your 250r - for future reference it is generally better to put all your questions in 1 thread if they are about the same bike even if it is different topics....much less clutter.

[william16339]

its the long

[william16339]

yeah i put 10 just to open up the sight lol

[william16339]

yeah mines a 6 to with rims

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Get used to the heavy clutch then!! LOL!

It really is a matter of perspective...... To person A, a clutch may seem very heavy, but to person B it may seem fine.

It could also have heavy duty clutch springs in it. That would make the clutch harder to work. Only fix would be to switch to standard clutch springs.

[lazybiker79]

Then it has to be the way its routed.

yes i did cable is fine

[lazybiker79]

no? what does that mean
It's not hard at all..

[william16339]

i dont mind it,,i was just wondering if its normal lol

[william16339]

there are no sharp turns or kinks

[william16339]

oh, you said you needed a fork seal driver though corect?

[200x350xtriz250]

yeah i put 10 just to open up the sight lol

Well enjoy your time here...can't say I didn't try lol lol

[william16339]

i just changed the swingarm bearings......hmmmmmm im not sure ill put it on the jack tomarrow and see....but im pretty sure its carier...bc mine is all beat up,,,,,but if i put new bearings in it,,shouldnt it be fine?

[RIDE-RED 250r]

If the carrier itself is worn to the point there is slop between the outer race of the new axle bearings and the inside bore of the carrier then a new carrier is in order. Sometimes people will keep on riding on a bad set of axle bearings, and then at some point the bearings will grenade and the sprocket and/or brake rotor hub will make contact with the carrier housing ruining the carrier. I have seen it more times than I care to count.

Find out exactly where the slop is and go from there..

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I used a piece of PVC pipe I just happened to have laying around that happened to be the perfect size.

It needs to slide over the fork and contact the seal without dragging in the lower fork housing.

[william16339]

thankyou alot

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I use a shorty lever with no issues, to some people my lever pulls pretty hard.

[Xowner]

I just combined 10 of your threads together..... Please keep like topics together.

[headache044]

I like black frames, because they match with almost any color plastics, jmo.

[j68nm9]

I did mine in red and was very happy with the results.

[JacobM]

Same here. I went with Red. turned out great.