mudmike
06-18-2013, 03:00 PM
Well folks I have found your site very helpful in the past when I have had a problem with the atc but I finally found a problem that I couldn't find already answered. So I finally joined.
Ok, I have an 82 atc that I got earlier this year (jan? feb?) I got the joy of riding it once and submarined it blowing the head gasket and bending a valve. I finally got this thing back together and changed the clutches as I already had a set I was gonna put in the 185. Now I have a shift problem. To be honest it seems like I have a veague memory of it being there before but remembering one ride three months ago is kinda ....Fuzzy.
Anyway the meat and potatoes. This thing absolutely hates shifting into neutral. It will go sometimes but usually I have to kill the engine and it will drop as the engine dies (as it slows down but before it is dead). Also every once in a while it just will not shift out for example say it wont go from 1st to 2nd if it does it while up shifting it feels like you are trying to upshift when already in 5th. Other times It does it while downshifting and I get the same feeling (except pressing up). Either way if I try to shift opposite it will shift then I can come back thru and continue. Example: Trying to go from 2 to 3 it wont go but if I slow down go to 1st then back to 2 it will usually go to 3 (also works going down).
I have a few other symptoms but don't know if they are related.
1) The thing creeps in 1st at idle, my 185 would just sit but this thing will creep about 2mph. My friend said my idle was too fast but it is about the same as the 185. So not sure if is symptom or if my idle is too fast.
2) This thing also seems to have excessive play in the shift lever. It will move freely about 2 1/2 or 3 inches and sits at the bottom of the free play. This could be a symptom or bad adjustmet on the clutch. I adjusted the clutch by the screw and jam nut near the dip stick. I turned it right until I got free play. Then left until it lightly seated then back right 1/4 turn. This did not help the amount of free play. Before I adjusted it I had to use my finger to make it swing both up and down. After adjusting it I could take one finger and flip it up and it would fall right back down on its own. The amount of travel is still the same though.
edit: things I forgot yesterday
This thing also does a torque wheelie when you put it into first it will pull the front end about 3-4 inches off the ground.
Though I thought I was being careful is there something that I could have assembled wrong? Could this could cause the creep, excess free play, and the wheelie?
For the it just wont shift gears problem am I looking at shift forks?
Is there one item that could cause all the above? Just not thrilled about having to split the case but I do have a 185 to steal the forks out of (the bike had a bad top end then fell out my truck and down a levy while I was doing 45-40 so is pretty much dead)
Ok, I have an 82 atc that I got earlier this year (jan? feb?) I got the joy of riding it once and submarined it blowing the head gasket and bending a valve. I finally got this thing back together and changed the clutches as I already had a set I was gonna put in the 185. Now I have a shift problem. To be honest it seems like I have a veague memory of it being there before but remembering one ride three months ago is kinda ....Fuzzy.
Anyway the meat and potatoes. This thing absolutely hates shifting into neutral. It will go sometimes but usually I have to kill the engine and it will drop as the engine dies (as it slows down but before it is dead). Also every once in a while it just will not shift out for example say it wont go from 1st to 2nd if it does it while up shifting it feels like you are trying to upshift when already in 5th. Other times It does it while downshifting and I get the same feeling (except pressing up). Either way if I try to shift opposite it will shift then I can come back thru and continue. Example: Trying to go from 2 to 3 it wont go but if I slow down go to 1st then back to 2 it will usually go to 3 (also works going down).
I have a few other symptoms but don't know if they are related.
1) The thing creeps in 1st at idle, my 185 would just sit but this thing will creep about 2mph. My friend said my idle was too fast but it is about the same as the 185. So not sure if is symptom or if my idle is too fast.
2) This thing also seems to have excessive play in the shift lever. It will move freely about 2 1/2 or 3 inches and sits at the bottom of the free play. This could be a symptom or bad adjustmet on the clutch. I adjusted the clutch by the screw and jam nut near the dip stick. I turned it right until I got free play. Then left until it lightly seated then back right 1/4 turn. This did not help the amount of free play. Before I adjusted it I had to use my finger to make it swing both up and down. After adjusting it I could take one finger and flip it up and it would fall right back down on its own. The amount of travel is still the same though.
edit: things I forgot yesterday
This thing also does a torque wheelie when you put it into first it will pull the front end about 3-4 inches off the ground.
Though I thought I was being careful is there something that I could have assembled wrong? Could this could cause the creep, excess free play, and the wheelie?
For the it just wont shift gears problem am I looking at shift forks?
Is there one item that could cause all the above? Just not thrilled about having to split the case but I do have a 185 to steal the forks out of (the bike had a bad top end then fell out my truck and down a levy while I was doing 45-40 so is pretty much dead)