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Canucker
07-02-2013, 09:06 PM
So I bought a trike a few years ago for exploring, I wanted a 2 stroke, I love 2 strokes, and I was going to get a dirt bike or something but then in my searching I came across trikes and was like OH MY GOD I always wanted one of these.

They are super dangerous death machines you say? PERFECT. That's right up my alley.

Anyway, I had a chance to buy a 250R for 950$ and I have since found out that it was a steal of a deal and I was stupid for passing up on it but c'est la vie.

I found a yellow Yamaha that had been on a farm for years and bought it for 350$ It started right up, worked amazingly, I drove it on a couple trips and dropped it off to a buds to store for me. Well the battery tray collapsed from rust and the battery ripped out and the Yamaha got parked in a field for a year and a half while I was doing other stuff IRL.

So I went to get it last week expecting it to be in tip top shape, and instead it had been sitting for a long time. Which sucked. So I took it home, dicked around with it a bunch and got it to fire up again, took it out this weekend and ripped around on it all weekend.

Had a blast, rolled it a few times and got thrown off when the front wheel dug in while I was getting pulled after the battery died and the pull start cord snapped. But it doesn't idle, just stalls.

So now I'm hooked. It is just so much fun that now I want to put some money into it, get it working beautifully and maybe even pull it apart, get the frame powder coated and whatnot and fix all the rust.

The farmers didn't give me any ownership or anything like that, just a cash deal. They told me it was a 200. I cleaned it today (first time I had ever seen it clean cause I bought it all muddy) and found some info on it. The engine stamp and steering column both say 24W 106563, and the steering column says manufacture date 7/83.

http://i.imgur.com/Cu0NC1z.jpg
Here she is, I pulled the seat off, I need to re-upholster it, it's trashed. On the edges of the yellow plastic on the seat are some black plastic mud guards sticking out, they are trashed too. Can I buy them somewhere?

http://i.imgur.com/NnjoTlW.jpg
Rusty Glory!

http://i.imgur.com/4HlDQjb.jpg
The bush bars got all mangled and I've bounced on them a few times to bend them more or less back to where they should be

http://i.imgur.com/hE0rbi8.jpg
mangled foot rests and I was jumping on the rear brake pedal trying to un seize it and it bent too.

http://i.imgur.com/87dVKFO.jpg
engine stamp

http://i.imgur.com/Xa8e22x.jpg
steering column sticker

http://i.imgur.com/r5KwAeh.jpg
what is that black plastic rectangle for?

http://i.imgur.com/wdzIise.jpg
What is this lever on the engine for?

So first, what the hell kind of trike is it? I downloaded the YTM200 manual and it has parts about chain and no electric start. This is shaft driven with electric start.

The rear brakes are completely seized, hand control is going to need a new cable and cable housing, i can probably unseize the footbrake with a torch and get the linkage all smooth again.
Can I buy a rebuild kit for the rear brake? Do I need to take the drum all apart and have a look before I even start bothering with it? I don't much care about rear brakes, the shifter provides all the engine braking you really need (well at least for my having fun style of riding.)

Where can I buy these cables from or do I need to make custom ones?

The black plastic mud guards around the seat, I wouldn't mind new ones.

I think it won't idle from the carb being gunked up from sitting. I messed around with the adjustment screw while it was running and all the way in and all the way out had no effect. A buddy told me there was probably a grain of sand in the jet or blocking the affect of the adjustment screw. I'm reading through this, http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/articles/CARB_REBUILD_HELP.pdf, was just planning on taking it all apart, documenting the way everything went together and cleaning the snot out of it and putting it back together.

You can't really buy the greatest cleaning product in the history of the world anymore, carb cleaner, well not in canada. Where can i order some from or what works as well?

I was going to weld patches onto the holes in the exhaust, pretty sure that should add a bit more power with the proper back pressure. Any reason why I shouldn't do that? Hell I could probably get away with just muffler cement.

The shifter shifts with minimal throttle from 1st 2nd and 3rd, but you need to be on the throttle hard to get it to shift to 4th or 5th, and by the end of the weekend it was taking a bit of effort to get it to shift. Could that just be because of a dead battery, or do I need to do something to the transmission?

How do I drain the oil?

What kind of oil can I put in it? it said 20w40 in the YTM manual but nowhere sells that oil.

The fork seals are blown, they still bounce but have leaked grease all over the forks. Do I need new forks or can I buy a rebuild kit for them?

The master control on the handlebars just has a big hole where there is supposed to be a RUN/OFF switch. Is there some after market control thing I could buy and switch in there. The handlebars got bent when it got dragged, where do I get handlebars from? I would like larger wider handlebars as I am a large guy.

And I think that's everything, what other cool stuff is out there for this trike? Any aftermarket stuff?

Thanks for reading!

Canucker
07-03-2013, 02:00 PM
So the first part I'm going to need is the pull start ring and pull start cord. I can probably whip the cord together, the service manual will probably tell me the length of cord required once I figure out if it is a YTM 200 or not.

http://i.imgur.com/iCCXIxp.jpg
you can see where it cracked, where can I get a new one of these from?

http://i.imgur.com/TfWXNvh.jpg
This I will probably just torch and bend back to shape with a vice and hammers, but if I can get one for super cheap maybe I'll just buy a replacement

sp8twn
07-03-2013, 03:22 PM
Black box is a tool box and the lever is decompressor push it foward and pull start it!!!

Canucker
07-03-2013, 04:09 PM
awesome, thanks for the advice :)

no wonder the bloody pullcord snapped. I just thought it was so hard to turn over because it was old, but as I'm sure you can tell I'm no expert.

my wife and buddy who came with me couldn't even pull on it, but I was just like HERCULES time and ripped on it and it started right up.

Ghostv2
07-03-2013, 04:23 PM
Looks to me to be a 225dx. As for parts, check ebay for some.
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1983-yamaha-tri-moto-225dx-ytm225dxk/o/m147057 For OEM parts.
Yes you can rebuild the forks.
If you really want to just put your own kill switch on there.

Canucker
07-03-2013, 04:27 PM
Looks to me to be a 225dx. As for parts, check ebay for some.
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1983-yamaha-tri-moto-225dx-ytm225dxk/o/m147057 For OEM parts.
Yes you can rebuild the forks.
If you really want to just put your own kill switch on there.

225DX eh? i emailed yamaha the VIN and they told me it was a YTM200!

that exclamation mark was what they sent me in the email. The YTM200 manual seems fishy with it's talk of chain drive and whatnot, so I'd really like to figure this out.

The Vin is 24W 106563 and 7/83 manufacture date.

Jason125m
07-03-2013, 04:52 PM
So first, what the hell kind of trike is it? I downloaded the YTM200 manual and it has parts about chain and no electric start. This is shaft driven with electric start.

It is a YTM 200ek

Can I buy a rebuild kit for the rear brake? Do I need to take the drum all apart and have a look before I even start bothering with it? I don't much care about rear brakes, the shifter provides all the engine braking you really need (well at least for my having fun style of riding.)

You can buy new shoes from any atv shop.

Where can I buy these cables from or do I need to make custom ones?

You can buy them from any atv shop. They all sell motion pro cables.

I think it won't idle from the carb being gunked up from sitting.
Yup! Clean her up and you're good as new.

You can't really buy the greatest cleaning product in the history of the world anymore, carb cleaner, well not in canada. Where can i order some from or what works as well?
Canadian tire sells carb cleaner.

I was going to weld patches onto the holes in the exhaust, pretty sure that should add a bit more power with the proper back pressure. Any reason why I shouldn't do that? Hell I could probably get away with just muffler cement.
Weld patches, a little slow bike does not need to be loud. Less back pressure will make it run lean.

The shifter shifts with minimal throttle from 1st 2nd and 3rd, but you need to be on the throttle hard to get it to shift to 4th or 5th, and by the end of the weekend it was taking a bit of effort to get it to shift. Could that just be because of a dead battery, or do I need to do something to the transmission?

Change your oil and it will be good as new.

How do I drain the oil?

17mm cap on the left side of the engine. There is a little spring and a little metal filter in there too so be careful.

What kind of oil can I put in it? it said 20w40 in the YTM manual but nowhere sells that oil.
I run 10w30 wet clutch oil in all my machines

The fork seals are blown, they still bounce but have leaked grease all over the forks. Do I need new forks or can I buy a rebuild kit for them?
Look on ebay for a rebuild kit

And I think that's everything, what other cool stuff is out there for this trike? Any aftermarket stuff?
There isn't very many aftermarket parts for this model. There is not very many left.

Damn, I just wrote a novel. LOL. Hopefully it helps. Welcome from a fellow ontarian.

Canucker
07-03-2013, 09:33 PM
Looks to me to be a 225dx. As for parts, check ebay for some.
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/1983-yamaha-tri-moto-225dx-ytm225dxk/o/m147057 For OEM parts.
Yes you can rebuild the forks.
If you really want to just put your own kill switch on there.

225DX eh? i emailed yamaha the VIN and they told me it was a YTM200!

Ok, I think you are right! thanks for the awesome advice, I found the right service manual and right parts manual and have already learned a boatload. Found a whole pullstart assembly on ebay for 50bucks, sweet deal

that exclamation mark was what they sent me in the email. The YTM200 manual seems fishy with it's talk of chain drive and whatnot, so I'd really like to figure this out.

The Vin is 24W 106563 and 7/83 manufacture date.

emmie357
07-21-2013, 11:16 PM
It's definitely a YTM200, 225 had a back shock and different gas tank.
If it's shaft drive it's a 200e.

Most 200 parts will fit except the rear end and bottom half of the engine. I have one of each and haven't found anything else that I can't swap... even many of the 225's non-engine parts will work.

I found a link to a Clymer's manual on here... it has instructions for both models. http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/

Canucker
07-28-2013, 07:13 PM
awesome thanks for all the help guys, got the oil changed and carb cleaned, works great now. A couple patches on the muffler and she should be right as rain. Man was there some nasty oil in the poor girl.

Jordyraye
07-28-2013, 10:10 PM
I have an 84 200 shaft with electric start. The thing is bulletproof, I recently ordered a motiin pro brake cable off of eBay for 15 bucks, tons of parts there. Just type ytm 200 in the search bar. You could almost build a whole trike from what they have there. I have big tires on it right now 25x13x9's and it pretty much floats across any slough. Riding with new quads and their 30 inch mud tires I get hung up in the ruts a lot. I'm considering putting really aggressive tires on the back, these trikes are geared super low so I should have no trouble turning them. Your friends will be amazed at what that thing can go through.

Worden18
07-29-2013, 12:36 AM
I also have an 84 YTM 200EL. Shaft drive, etc. Got mine going after it sat in a barn for 10 years. I love it, it's really a nice machine. In case you didn't know, your machine also has an oil filter on the right side (as you're sitting on it). You can get new ones thru Rocky Mountain ATV Parts

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/?gclid=CKTVjdic1bUCFexaMgodv3QAVQ

Don't forget to check the oil in the final drive. Probably needs to be changed after all this time. Take the time to read thru the whole manual, it will help a lot.

Oh and hey, don't jump on any rusty parts LOL. Use a 50/50 mix of tranny fluid and acetone; it will loosen any rusted part.

Canucker
08-06-2013, 10:46 AM
Just had the old girl out dancing all weekend, I just can not believe how capable of a machine it is. Took it river crawling, mud bogging, trailblazing. Carried hundreds of pounds of gear strapped to the rear racks into deep and very steep bush. Finally starting to really get the hang of the machine and not being quite so reckless and rolling it so much.


Going up a hill that must have been 70 degrees with 3 giant timber sections strapped to the racks maxed it out, poor engine didn't have any more guts to give. But other than that carried my 220 lbs and my 130lb fiancee all over the place.

Going down insanely steep hills wasn't two bad once i figured out how to drive down them like a snake, with the engine providing all the braking, but i bet some rear brakes will help a ton more so i'm going to rebuild them.

Smashed the bush bars and bent them back so many times they are probably going to snap off and need to be welded back on, broke the rear brake lever on the handlebars, twisted the front brake lever like a pretzel. I think i am going to weld some hand guards onto the handlebars, maybe some bars underneath the bushbars, my foot slipped through and caught on the ground and almost snapped.

tommerp
08-06-2013, 10:51 AM
I love those foot guards! Are those stock!!! LOL

Canucker
08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
I also have an 84 YTM 200EL. Shaft drive, etc. Got mine going after it sat in a barn for 10 years. I love it, it's really a nice machine. In case you didn't know, your machine also has an oil filter on the right side (as you're sitting on it). You can get new ones thru Rocky Mountain ATV Parts

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/?gclid=CKTVjdic1bUCFexaMgodv3QAVQ

Don't forget to check the oil in the final drive. Probably needs to be changed after all this time. Take the time to read thru the whole manual, it will help a lot.

Oh and hey, don't jump on any rusty parts LOL. Use a 50/50 mix of tranny fluid and acetone; it will loosen any rusted part.

I brought the final drive oil and never bothered changing it, oops. Next time. I tried the 50/50 mix of atf and acetone last year, didn't find it to work that well.

Oh man and I forgot to talk about the muffler pulled the muffler off and it was a disaster. Flange, gasket and engine had all rusted into one solid mass. I had to die grind out the exhaust hole and then weld the muffler right to the cylinder head. I was terrified to weld onto it because it was full of high octane gasoline but it ended up working very well. Spent about 10 hours welding the snot out of the muffler, but it runs great now.

So before it stalled out as soon as I let off the gas, this time it idled nicely for about 5-60 seconds before stalling out. With the electric start this was no problem. Only got 2 tanks of gas through it (Holy christ i thought it would use way more gas, ended up bringing 30 litres back to toronto)


But holy smokes do I ever love this trike

Canucker
08-06-2013, 11:04 AM
I love those foot guards! Are those stock!!! LOL
It came with them when I bought it, but i believe they were an aftermarket thing.


I would consider them absolutely mandatory, the amount of times i have smashed them and bent them back is ridiculous, i don't think i'd feel safe riding the thing without them at all. They attach to a skid plate which covers up about 1/2 the bottom of the trike, also very important.

When I got done rivercrawling there were a couple nice gouges in that skidplate, probably would have been really easy cracking open the crankcase without that armour underneath.

Also I learned the trike handles incredibly well if you lean really sharply during high speed turns, absolutely ludicrous how fast you can take corners on the thing.

I've driven alot of quads, and will probably buy a nice quad for the misses but for a workhorse on your property I can't imagine anything beating the trike. Going to me moving granite with it next time I go up, so that'll really beat the snot out of it.

What can I start doing to get more power out of it? Some sort of racing carb to give the engine more fuel and air?

Canucker
08-06-2013, 12:10 PM
welding the muffler right to the engine
http://i.imgur.com/uOartyG.jpg

nasty exhaust port before getting reamed out like crazy
http://i.imgur.com/0Ih9XV9.jpg

patching the muffler
http://i.imgur.com/5VITaVt.jpg

muffler all patched up
http://i.imgur.com/c9q6jCD.jpg