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Pitbilly
02-21-2014, 10:26 PM
Hi guys
My stock tires are in need of replacement. I'm looking for your feedback on tire recommendations...I ride this bike minimally in packed clay and sand. I'm leaning towards ohtsu mr501s. Also see these goldspeed tires on eBay that look nice but are 6 ply....I don't want to lug it down with heavy tires...what do you guys recommend?
Thx

dougspcs
02-21-2014, 11:26 PM
I have two sets of rear tires I trade off depending on where I'm riding because I can't chose just one!

1st is the a set of Mud Lites..perfect for mixed trail, mud, water, rocky and gravel terrain.

2nd is the ever popular Holeshot..good on loose ground(sand, dirt, gravel) and hard surface riding.

There is so much out there now that never existed 25 years ago..don't be afraid to experiment or pick more than one. It doesn't cost that much more for a second set of rims so you can do quick wheel swaps.

Do you own just one pair of footwear??

barnett468
02-22-2014, 05:01 AM
Hello;


Both the ohtsu 501's and goldspeed's are 4 ply. the goldspeeds come in different hardnesses. if you buy those i would get medium or hard compound. the soft one will not bite into hard packed clay as well. i might buy the goldspeeds instead of the ohtsus bit hard to say.


Ok in addition to the info from dougspcs, there is a ton of info and links to pictures of tires in the link below that will probably just confuse you, lol.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/165046-Trying-to-find-the-perfect-sand-dirt-tire-for-my-200x?highlight=hawaiirider


Yeah 6 plies are a bit heavy but it depends what you use them for. I think 2 plies are too soft for most apps.

There are 2 model of mud lites, below is a photo of the XL-ITP. It’s a 6 ply.

http://www.itptires.com/tires/utility-atv/mud-lite-xl


mud lite XTR-ITP radial 6 ply

http://www.itptires.com/tires/utility-atv/mud-lite-xtr


heres a Carlisle 3 ply with similar tread design. Carlisle is like goodyear, they make xlnt tires.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Product/carlisle-a-c-t-radial-front-rear-tire/337-560408.aspx


kenda bear klaws. I think dougspcs might have experience with these as do some others here. 6 ply.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/723/5375/Kenda-Bear-Claw-ATV-Tire?term=wooly%20booger%20tires


ok these suckers will move ALL the mud you want but my guess is that they might be just a tad bit of overkill unless you put them on a tractor, lol. 6 ply.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/723/5380/Kenda-Executioner-ATV-Tire


not as good a mud/sand pattern as mud lites.

http://www.carlisletransportationpro.../at101-chevron


general use tire like the gold speed and ohtsu 501. Available in 2 or 4 ply and different hardnesses which is kinda cool.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...as-MX-ATV-Tire

barnett468
02-22-2014, 05:08 AM
general use tire

2 or 4 ply available in different hardnesses which is kinda cool.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/4344/30414/Douglas-MX-ATV-Tire

These are popular also

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/4344/8665/Maxxis-Razr-ATV-Tire

barnett468
02-22-2014, 05:38 AM
check out the tires in these links.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t/4344/ATV-Racing-Tires

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/search?term=wooly+booger+tires

http://www.moto4less.com/goodyear-rawhide-att-front-reartire-p-atv-goodyear-tires.html

Pitbilly
02-22-2014, 06:24 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions.....the gold speeds on eBay say 6 ply so I'm assuming they are. Kinda leaning towards those....Doug I just got the bike so haven't purchased another set yet...I'm thinking of getting some 4 snows for next year...have any of you run the kenda claws? Another 6 ply tire but I think they would look good and slide well...whatever I get is gonna be a 20 not 22

barnett468
02-23-2014, 12:02 AM
Hello Pitbilly


What size are your rims?

Which style below are you looking at?

Goldspeed MXR XC 90156, 6 ply, radial, 155.00 for 1.

http://www.goldspeedproducts.com/product/mxr-xc/


Goldspeed SX, 6 ply, 219.00 for 2 on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-20-X-10-X-9-Rear-6-PLY-Goldspeed-SX-Tires-Radial-Honda-250R-250X-300EX-450R-/200905892603?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ec6eca2fb&vxp=mtr#ht_1264wt_930


Kenda no longer makes the MX sticky radial or the plain MX.

Kenda Klaws XC, 6 ply, 20x11x8, 20x11x9, 20x11x10. these will not slide as well as some these that have straight through horizontal spaces between the sets of knobs.

http://www.motosport.com/atv/KENDA-KLAW-XC-REAR-TIRE-20X1110


Kenda K533 Klaw XCR, 6 ply, radial, 20x11x8, 20x11x9, 20x11x10

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/30536/i/kenda-k533-klaw-xcr-radial-rear-tire


Just curious, if you do NOT want 6 ply or radial tires why do you not like these below?

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/4344/30414/Douglas-MX-ATV-Tire

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/4344/8665/Maxxis-Razr-ATV-Tire

dougspcs
02-23-2014, 08:45 AM
I'm thinking of getting some 4 snows for next year...have any of you run the kenda claws? Another 6 ply tire but I think they would look good and slide well...whatever I get is gonna be a 20 not 22

20x11x8 is great on that machine..that is the size I favour.

I personally have the Bear Claws on my 250ES and 250SX and they are awesome..would I put them on my 350X? No..they are a really heavy tire both in weight and construction, they're designed for a utility application. Also they don't come in 20"..22" is the smallest size. As great as they would be for snow traction it would take all the nimble sporty feel away from this great sport trike.

If I was to get a 3RD set for the 350X, I might choose them but they would be limited to snow use and heavy mud running which I don't personally like to do with my 350X..that is what my utility trikes are for. Bear Claws would definitely not be 'starting lineup' for me!!

I could send you tons of links to tires I've never tried, but that seems pointless. I'll give you my opinion as a 350 owner and about tires I've actually run on!!

Your Goldspeed tire looks like decent..though I have never tried them personally, they are similar to a tire called the 'Race Rail' I once had on a 200x, in fact they have come from the same mould. They were a pretty good general purpose riding tire..you wouldn't do wrong with them.

Just have some fun and dive in..you can't be wrong and it's the best way for you to learn what you like and don't. It's all very individual..

brd812
02-23-2014, 10:33 AM
I have the gold speeds on a banshee and they are awesome and hook up well, down side extremely soft compound..... I have ripped a couple big chucks out of the knobby in the hard pack and rocks in pa. I would grade on tread life a c- to d, unless I was racing and they were throw always . If you plan on buying set every season it's a great tire.

Pitbilly
02-23-2014, 10:14 PM
Hi guys I'm looking for tires for stock rims...I'm gonna buy the goldspeeds......will post up a pic when there on....I think they look the most retro and will work well in clay/sand

Thanks Doug and Barnett for all your suggestions

barnett468
02-24-2014, 01:31 AM
Thanks Doug and Barnett for all your suggestions.No prob, hope some of it helped. There are so many different types of tires it's obviously hard to decide what might be best. Kinda like a kid in a candy store that can only pick one, lol.





Post 1.

My stock tires are in need of replacement. I'm looking for your feedback on tire recommendations...I ride this bike minimally in packed clay and sand.

Also see these goldspeed tires on eBay that look nice but are 6 ply.

I don't want to lug it down with heavy tires...what do you guys recommend?Thx

Post 6.

Another 6 ply tire but I think they would look good and slide well...
Post 8.

I could send you tons of links to tires I've never tried, but that seems pointless. Your Goldspeed tire looks like decent..though…

TIRE APPEARANCE, WEIGHT AND COST - Since you mentioned tire APPEARANCE AND "6 ply" [implying you did not want heavy tires], in TWO separate posts, imo it’s OBVIOUS by these comments that you not only want your tires to work well, you also want them to look cool and not weigh a ton, therefore, it is obviously NOT pointless to send you links to tires you might not have seen before as another suggested it is even though they mentioned appearance themselves.

The links, also contain prices so you can compare those too. Not knowing whether you are wealthy or not, I thought the pricing might also be beneficial to you.





Post 8.

Your Goldspeed tire looks like decent..though I have never tried them personally, they are similar to a tire called the 'Race Rail' I once had on a 200x in fact they have come from the same mould. They were a pretty good general purpose riding tire..you wouldn't do wrong with them.
GOLDSPEEDS SAME AS RACE RAILS – Of the different Goldspeeds and Race Rails currently available, the tread patterns do NOT match, therefore none of these came from the same mold. Perhaps one of the Goldspeeds matches a Race Rail that has been discontinued.

Race Rails are made by Pirelli which is in Itali and whom makes high quality tires. I have not been able to find where the Goldspeeds are made and there is nothing on the Goldspeed site as to EXACTLY where they are located or where their tires are made. This is not to imply that their tires are bad in any way, it just seems a bit unusual to me. Hankook auto tires are made in Korea and are good quality.

To assume that just because one brand and model of tire comes out of the same mold as another brand and model does or used to that both will perform the same is not a realistic thing to do imo. This is because one company might be making them with different plies and or a different quality of rubber and or a different durometer [hardness] of rubber than the other etc.

Pirelli race rail MX.
https://www.denniskirk.com/front-race-rail-mx-19x6-10-tire.p653065.prd/653065.sku

Pirelli race rail XC.
http://www.atvriders.com/images/Pirelli/Pirelliracerailxc.jpg






I have the gold speeds on a banshee and they are awesome and hook up well, down side extremely soft compound..... I have ripped a couple big chucks out of the knobby in the hard pack and rocks in pa. I would grade on tread life a c- to d, unless I was racing and they were throw always . If you plan on buying set every season it's a great tire.

Since at least some of the Goldspeeds come in 3 different rubber hardnesses, this info is not very helpful unless one knows what hardness rating these tires were. As I previously mentioned, you do not want a soft compound for your application.

Unless otherwise noted by the mfg., tire compounds are typically anywhere from medium to hard unless it is a Hoosier short track or asphalt tire which comes in soft to almost liquid rubber.

:beer

dougspcs
02-24-2014, 11:19 AM
GOLDSPEEDS SAME AS RACE RAILS – Of the different Goldspeeds and Race Rails currently available, the tread patterns do NOT match, therefore none of these came from the same mold. Perhaps one of the Goldspeeds matches a Race Rail that has been discontinued.

Race Rails are made by Pirelli which is in Itali and whom makes high quality tires. I have not been able to find where the Goldspeeds are made and there is nothing on the Goldspeed site as to EXACTLY where they are located or where their tires are made. This is not to imply that their tires are bad in any way, it just seems a bit unusual to me. Hankook auto tires are made in Korea and are good quality.

To assume that just because one brand and model of tire comes out of the same mold as another brand and model does or used to that both will perform the same is not a realistic thing to do imo. This is because one company might be making them with different plies and or a different quality of rubber and or a different durometer [hardness] of rubber than the other etc.



I meant to say "they are similar to a tire called the 'Race Rail' I once had on a 200x, in fact they MAY have come from the same mould"..

Thanks for catching that Barnett..and yeah the ones I had were a discontinued line.

They went to Rosco on the back of my 200X he rebuilt for his wife..

barnett468
02-24-2014, 11:49 AM
Hey, no prob dougspcs, we're all just trying to help him the best we can. I thought you might know something about the bear klaws he asked about, that's why I mentioned you might.


I just found out that maxxis is actually cheng shin which is an old chinese tire mfg. There is a tire called the "maxxis aspera goldspeed" which only says maxxis on it so I am trying to fond out if maxxis and goldspeed are related somehow. yeah, ok, I'm an info freak, lol!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheng_Shin_Rubber

:beer