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bkvette3
03-22-2014, 07:07 PM
I ABSOLUTELY love and want a '85 - '86 Honda 250R ATC :drool: (wife says no - we will work on that later ;)) Anyway, just curious - what is the top end speed in OEM form??? And with performance mods??? These things look fast just standing still. Thanks BK3

RIDE-RED 250r
03-22-2014, 09:21 PM
Hey there and welcome.

A 3rd gen R (85-86) will top out around 70mph in completely stock form.

With mod?? Well there really isn't a definitive answer on that. You can build alot of HP with these machines and the sky really is the limit with so much aftermarket support still around.

But an example of the fastest I have seen so far, a 431 CPI Puma big bore set up for 1/4 mile asphalt. He ran 113mph in 1/4 mile and there is video proof of it. If I recall his member name was bannedbrap or something like that. His 250r was VERY purpose built for running 1/4 mile asphalt. Off the top of my head, to build just an engine like his would cost you at least 5k, probably closer to 8k.

So, what does the wife have against the 250r?? ;) I have 2 and they haven't killed me yet! ;)

c_hustle
03-22-2014, 11:20 PM
I rode mine today and it still puts a big smile on my face :)

bkvette3
03-23-2014, 09:19 AM
I rode mine today and it still puts a big smile on my face :)



I'm jealous, my friend. Had the chance to buy a one owner '86 250R back in the early 90s' . Test drove it (slowly) and was scared of it. Never bought it (kicking myself now) Bought a '84 250FL Odyssey instead. Still think about that mint '86 250R - kinda like the hot girlfriend that us guys used to date - where are they now type of thing??? LOL

bkvette3
03-23-2014, 09:25 AM
So, what does the wife have against the 250r?? ;) I have 2 and they haven't killed me yet! ;)[/QUOTE]


You know how wives can be, brother. I have a '84 200es. She believes one is enough. Then I hear "you already have enough toys in the garage". If a clean '85-'86 250R comes my way - I will make it happen. If that is yours in your avatar - BEAUTIFUL, my friend. Stay safe - BK3.

RIDE-RED 250r
03-23-2014, 06:44 PM
Oh yes, I am all to familiar with the classic wife defense of "you have enough already"...

Between my S&W revolver collection (that I just keep finding that 1 more I NEED", my trikes, and some other things I'm constantly in and out of the doghouse! LOL!

And yes, the machine in my avatar is one of 2 I have. It is an '85 with an ESR 350 big bore with quite a few supporting goodies. Thanks for the compliment. :beer

bkvette3
03-24-2014, 11:51 AM
Have a lead on an one owner, stock 1985 Honda 250R - just waiting for more info - I am hyped.

Jason125m
03-24-2014, 01:34 PM
Definitely pick it up if the condition and price are right. You won't regret it! I almost didn't buy mine when I went and looked at it,,,, but I sure am glad I did!

bkvette3
03-24-2014, 05:35 PM
Definitely pick it up if the condition and price are right. You won't regret it! I almost didn't buy mine when I went and looked at it,,,, but I sure am glad I did!

Hello Jason - the only bad thing - it is around 730 miles away (round trip) from me but I am willing to make the trip.

Jason125m
03-24-2014, 05:59 PM
Hello Jason - the only bad thing - it is around 600 miles away from me but I am willing to make the trip.

Roadtrips only add to the fun! I imagine a nice 3rd gen R is rare in saskatchewan.

bkvette3
03-24-2014, 09:10 PM
Roadtrips only add to the fun! I imagine a nice 3rd gen R is rare in saskatchewan.

A few tired and beat ones can be found around here - not really interested in those. But this one sparked my interested. Just waiting for some detailed pics to be sent my way by seller.

c_hustle
03-24-2014, 10:40 PM
I have made a good handful of trips 250/300 miles (one way) for a good deal. Farthest i ever went was 400 miles one way for a Yamaha. I will never sell that bike. Good luck on that liquid R!

bkvette3
03-25-2014, 10:39 PM
UPDATE - in case you are interested. Seller contacted me - engine never rebuilt - runs strong, all OEM plastics - no cracks or breaks. Original chain and tires. Stock OEM exhaust. Not raced - nothing missing. Never stored outdoors. All original OEM tools, owner's manual and paperwork included. Purchased new in 1987 from local Honda dealership. Planning to make the trip this weekend to view. Like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. BK3

honda atc guy
03-26-2014, 04:18 PM
UPDATE - in case you are interested. Seller contacted me - engine never rebuilt - runs strong, all OEM plastics - no cracks or breaks. Original chain and tires. Stock OEM exhaust. Not raced - nothing missing. Never stored outdoors. All original OEM tools, owner's manual and paperwork included. Purchased new in 1987 from local Honda dealership. Planning to make the trip this weekend to view. Like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. BK3

Awesome! Hope it works out for you. Get some pics.

Jason125m
03-26-2014, 06:42 PM
UPDATE - in case you are interested. Seller contacted me - engine never rebuilt - runs strong, all OEM plastics - no cracks or breaks. Original chain and tires. Stock OEM exhaust. Not raced - nothing missing. Never stored outdoors. All original OEM tools, owner's manual and paperwork included. Purchased new in 1987 from local Honda dealership. Planning to make the trip this weekend to view. Like a kid waiting for Christmas morning. BK3

Sweet! Doesn't get better then that! Make sure to post tons of pictures when you pick it up!

bkvette3
03-26-2014, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the well wishes, guys. Much appreciated. Any clue what this 250R would/should sell for with the description of the trike above??? I need guidance and your opinion..

jchale
03-27-2014, 11:58 PM
From my research I would say in the range of $2000-$5000 depending on shape and originality. I'm basing this on the Winnipeg market. If for some reason the deal falls through pass on the info as I may be interested. If you do buy congrats and send pics.



[QUOTE=bkvette3;1299063]Thanks for the well wishes, guys. Much appreciated. Any clue what this 250R would/should sell for with the description of the trike above??? I need guidance and

c_hustle
03-28-2014, 12:21 AM
It definitely depends on location :)

bkvette3
03-28-2014, 07:55 PM
UPDATE - here is what I am going to look at tomorrow. What do you think??? Opinions/comments appreciated. I think with a little detailing she will clean up nicely. Leaving at 2:00AM Saturday morning - 345 miles one way. Plan to be back around 5:00PM. Call me crazy - but I hope it will be worth my while... Regards,,,BK3

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/WIN_20140324_151922_zpsad456e49.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/WIN_20140324_151922_zpsad456e49.jpg.html)


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bkvette3
03-28-2014, 08:36 PM
Couple more pics

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/WIN_20140324_152252_zpsec624b56.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/WIN_20140324_152252_zpsec624b56.jpg.html)


http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/WIN_20140324_152013_zpsc396364d.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/WIN_20140324_152013_zpsc396364d.jpg.html)

Liquid-Darkness
03-28-2014, 08:37 PM
Man thats a sweet trike. I had 2 of those 85 R's and theres nothing like taking it out for the first time and feeling the power hit like everyone talks about, lol. I plan on getting another 85 R when I get the funds togeather, after I fix up my 85 X..

Once you get use to the powerband hitting, you should jet your needle so when you stab the throttle while rolling in 1st gear, it hits WOT (wide open throttle) and does not flood out or miss from being too rich. Once I did that, my R was so cool in 1 2 3d gear. Nothing like holding it at wot for a few seconds and feeling the power while in a drag race.

Be sure to run at least 32:1 good quailty 2 stroke oil and would run alot smoother if you ran like 3 gallons of premium to 2 gallons of 110. Best running bike i had was with that mixture and was mostly stock.. You would probably want to check out the reeds and maybe upgrade.. Change that tranny oil and toss on a new spark plug.. Once you do pick up a machine..
:beer

bkvette3
03-28-2014, 08:42 PM
Man thats a sweet trike. I had 2 of those 85 R's and theres nothing like taking it out for the first time and feeling the power hit like everyone talks about, lol. I plan on getting another 85 R when I get the funds togeather, after I fix up my 85 X..

Once you get use to the powerband hitting, you should jet your needle so when you stab the throttle while rolling in 1st gear, it hits WOT (wide open throttle) and does not flood out or miss from being too rich. Once I did that, my R was so cool in 1 2 3d gear. Nothing like holding it at wot for a few seconds and feeling the power while in a drag race.

Be sure to run at least 32:1 good quailty 2 stroke oil and would run alot smoother if you ran like 3 gallons of premium to 2 gallons of 110. Best running bike i had was with that mixture and was mostly stock.. You would probably want to check out the reeds and maybe upgrade.. Once you do pick up a machine..
:beer

You are scaring me, brother. I am just use to the speed and holeshot of my '84 200es. LOL - Thanks for the fuel/oil/maintenance tip - much appreciated. BK3

Liquid-Darkness
03-28-2014, 08:49 PM
You are scaring me, brother. I am just use to the speed and holeshot of my '84 200es. LOL - Thanks for the fuel/oil tip - much appreciated. BK3

Just stick to the waiting period on this site and get full access, its worth it.. Yeah man you are going to be blown away from the difference in power on those 2 strokes, I was when I first rode one. Gets your heart pumping and you gotta say,

"Git it ragg!!!"

bkvette3
03-29-2014, 10:21 PM
Left Saturday morning at @ 2:00AM - got back at 5:30PM. Done deal. Parked the 250R next to the 200es in the garage. I am going to bed - those 12 hour driving trips are horrible. BK3

Liquid-Darkness
03-30-2014, 06:00 AM
Left Saturday morning at @ 2:00AM - got back at 5:30PM. Done deal. Parked the 250R next the 200es in the garage. I am going to bed - those 12 hour driving trips are horrible. BK3

I know what you mean, I just went on a 12 hour trip last month to pick up my X. That ride home with a new trike is so cool though..:naughty:

bkvette3
03-30-2014, 07:08 AM
I think I really lucked out on this 250R - a one owner unit that was not abused in any way. Nothing broken, missing or damaged, all there - not even a rub mark or dent on the skid plates. All original. The only thing I can think of is to replace the original Dunlop tires - but hey, for 29 years old they are still decent/usable. I want to clean and detail the 250R to my specs and post some pics in a new thread when done.


http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/dbaba414-14fc-44b0-ba77-71dccb830ea3_zps3e3b7308.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/dbaba414-14fc-44b0-ba77-71dccb830ea3_zps3e3b7308.jpg.html)

RoscoW
03-30-2014, 09:02 AM
Not Crazy, That machine will clean up and detail out beautifully, I drove from London to Chicago to pick mine up and they were not as original as yours. You've got something rare there…. A Canadian 250R, with all the reflectors. The US model did not have any of those. I have no idea on price but I do know if it is as complete and original as it looks it wouldn't leave my garage.

Ross..

c_hustle
03-30-2014, 11:07 AM
Congrats! Enjoy it!! :)

RIDE-RED 250r
03-30-2014, 07:55 PM
If you paid under $2500 for that 100% original R with toolbox an all, you did very well!

Congrats on a rare find!

I have a 200es, and if that is what you are used to, HANG ON! LOL! I'm not trying to scare you so much as prepare you. She will buck you off if you don't ease yourself into it's abilities. Just remember, YOU are in control of the throttle. Break yourself in and get to know it. You will be A-OK.

bkvette3
03-30-2014, 09:52 PM
If you paid under $2500 for that 100% original R with toolbox an all, you did very well!

Congrats on a rare find!

I have a 200es, and if that is what you are used to, HANG ON! LOL! I'm not trying to scare you so much as prepare you. She will buck you off if you don't ease yourself into it's abilities. Just remember, YOU are in control of the throttle. Break yourself in and get to know it. You will be A-OK.


Thank-you. Way, way under $2500.00. Took it for a little ride this afternoon (1/2 hour) to get used to the trike and yes it is not the same as my 200es. Totally different beast. Never really got into the throttle and I could tell the difference. Don't laugh but I never got it past 2nd gear. (ahhh, OK you can laugh - I am a 250R NOob.) Here is another thing you can laugh at. Kick start - I am use to electric start on the 200es. Long story short. Nearly broke my leg with my foot slipping and the kickback got me. Very painful but I still love the liquid R. My wife is shaking her head and says "sell it."


http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/HPIM1154_zps1152420e.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/HPIM1154_zps1152420e.jpg.html)

c_hustle
03-31-2014, 10:50 AM
I also learned the hard way when i tried to kick my bike over in sandals haha

RIDE-RED 250r
03-31-2014, 02:37 PM
OUCH!! I have had a 350x slap me in the shin...worn kicker hinge+wet boots=very easy to slip off the kicker when you go to kick it!

Racer-X
07-02-2014, 07:31 PM
What? Way way under $2500?...... 2 way's? That's insane!!! What a deal brother good for you. I'm in Pittsburgh and it seems 3 wheeler prices are a little higher than other states around me for some reason. I went on a mission for mine too. you should buy another one( hide it behind the garage from the old lady and actually ride that one lol) and store that one away in a safe dry place. One day it will be worth a lot of money in that condition. I remember old muscle cars were cheap and a dime a dozen when I was in high school but fast foreward in time....now those same $1500-$2500 cars are worth a lot of money. They're dwindling away or being chopped,dragged,wrecked,and parted out right now as we speak.15- 20years from now you wouldn't be able to touch one like yours for a couple grand!