*** 1985 Honda 250R ATC rear slider question. ***

[bkvette3]

Hello all,

Is there an aftermarket rear slider available for a 1985 Honda 250R ATC??? OEM rear slider no longer available at the dealer. Thanks in advance.

BK3

[yaegerb]

here you go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chain-Slider-Buffer-Guide-Honda-ATC250R-TRX250R-ATC250-TRX250-ATC-TRX-250R-250-R-/191055293107?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7bc86ab3&vxp=mtr

[bkvette3]

here you go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chain-Slider-Buffer-Guide-Honda-ATC250R-TRX250R-ATC250-TRX250-ATC-TRX-250R-250-R-/191055293107?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c7bc86ab3&vxp=mtr




Thanks, buddy - I appreciate your reply but I am looking for the rear slider that goes on the rear skid plate. It is about 17" long. The
slider on ebay is for the front of the swingarm.

Regards, BK3

[yaegerb]

ok, here you go....whew..what a price. I would just go and get a PRM skidplate.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-NOS-SKID-PLATE-SLIDER-ATC-TRX250-ATC350X-52156-HB9-000-/350978752375?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b7f6bf77&vxp=mtr

[jeswinehart]

Howdy makes those. Makes them darn well too ! I have seen them first hand, heck I think I have one in my display cabinet (somewhere in there, its getting kinda crowded).

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/151620-350x-Chain-Slider-Product-in-development

[bkvette3]

ok, here you go....whew..what a price. I would just go and get a PRM skidplate.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-NOS-SKID-PLATE-SLIDER-ATC-TRX250-ATC350X-52156-HB9-000-/350978752375?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b7f6bf77&vxp=mtr

Thanks but that price is insane.

[bkvette3]

Howdy makes those. Makes them darn well too ! I have seen them first hand, heck I think I have one in my display cabinet (somewhere in there, its getting kinda crowded).

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/151620-350x-Chain-Slider-Product-in-development



Thanks - might have to go this route - how does one get in touch with Howdy (I am guessing he is a Forum member here - correct???)

[jeswinehart]

Yeah, he has been a member on here for a little while now ~ lol.

PM, e-mail, http://www.3wheelerworld.com/member.php/5-Howdy

[bkvette3]

Yeah, he has been a member on here for a little while now ~ lol.

PM, e-mail, http://www.3wheelerworld.com/member.php/5-Howdy

Thank-you, sir - much appreciated.

[Poco Loco]

TRX sliders are still in stock and fit perfectly. thats what I run

[bkvette3]

TRX sliders are still in stock and fit perfectly. thats what I run

What part number would that happen to be??? I checked the online parts manual for a TRX and could not find a rear slider listed. Thanks BK3

[bkvette3]

Ahh, never mind - checked manual for a '86 TRX and found part # 52156-HB9-000. In my neck of the woods - Honda dealer says they are discontinued.

[Poco Loco]

The rear slider? My trike just has the one at the swing arm pivot. I use a trx slider. In stock out here in the west coast.

[bkvette3]

The rear slider? My trike just has the one at the swing arm pivot. I use a trx slider. In stock out here in the west coast.

Here is a pic of my '85 Honda 250R rear skid plate with the slider.

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/HPIM1162_zps4e30f604.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/HPIM1162_zps4e30f604.jpg.html)


http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae98/bkvette3/HPIM1163_zpsbced0b7e.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/user/bkvette3/media/HPIM1163_zpsbced0b7e.jpg.html)

[barnett468]

Hello bkvette3;


If you want to do it on a budget, you can make on for around $4.00 in around an hour. If the slider is in a recessed channel use option b below. The good thing is that if it works you saved some money. They other good thing is, if it doesn't work you are only out around $4.00. The other good thin is, if it does work and doesn't fail after a few rides which is unlikely, you can make a second one and see if it will sell on Ebay for around $29.95 if you want and advertise it as an "upgrade"', lol.

Your chain might make slightly more noise with the nylon than the rubber whenever it hits it. If the chain is properly adjusted, it should take a LONG time before it wears through the heads of the plastic retainers used in option 2 below.


Here’s some options.

1. Buy a sheet of 6.6 nylon around 8” wide and around 3/16” thick. The extra width is for mounting tabs and also to make another if needed.

2. Clean the slider.

2. Put a 3/4” - 1” wide piece of masking tape on the slider just behind the front nut and wrap it around the bend in the skid plate onto the flat part by around 1”. This represents the front mounting tab.

3. Do the same on the rear by placing the rear edge of the tape around 1” forward of the skid plates rear mounting hole and extend the tape over the first exposed rib. This represents the rear mounting tab.

4. Remove the slider, lay it upside down on the plastic with the outside edge even with the plastic and mark the plastic then simply cut it out with a hacksaw etc..

5. Put the plastic on the skid plate.

6. Drill a 3/16” hole on the skid plate so it is centered in the tab.

7. Drill a 1/8” hole in the plastic.

8. Put some grease on a flat head sheet metal screw and screw it into the plastic from the bottom side of the skid plate. You can also just drill the same size hole in both and secure it with a bolt, flat washers and lock nut.

9. Put on some gloves then hold the front of the plastic in place and CAREFULLY heat it with a heat shrink gun. It is EXTREMELY easy to overheat it. Use the end of a wooden hammar to hold it in place if your fingers get too toasty.

Push on the tab periodically with your fingers or the end of a wooden hammar. Once it is soft enough, start to bend it. You probably have to do this in two steps because once the heat is removed, it will harden up quickly. If someone else holds it you can do it in one step.

10. once bent you can remove the plastic and bend the tab a hair more to force the slider section down on the skid plate slightly if it is not laying flat.

11.drill hole and mount as desired.

12. file front edge slightly so the chain will go over it more easily.

13. you can also glue it to the skid plate with weather strip adhesive as increased security if you want.



Plan b.

1. Do the same as above but use a 5/16” thick piece of plastic.

2. Cut it the width of the original slider with no tabs.

3. Plunge some 3/8” mounting holes in it around 1/2 way through with a wood bore. They are around $3.00 - $6 00. at the hardware store. The link below shows 1 style.

http://www.sourcingmap.com/22mm-borer-drill-diameter-hinge-boring-drill-bit-woodworkers-wood-hole-saw-p-357104.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle&gclid=CNS3nMGugL4CFSho7AodO2AACQ

4. Drill 1/4” holes all the way through the slider and the skid plate.

5. Secure with plastic push retainers or plastic button head screws which can found in the “Help” section of most auto parts stores. See photos in links below. The screws are best.

Push retainers B-10967, B-13166

https://www.amkproducts.com/Catalog_PDF/151-164.pdf

Plastic button head screws.

http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-mg/countersunk-button-head-screws-56533-2350439.jpg

6. File front edge of slider.

7. Buy 8 grade 8 flat washers the size of the skid plate mounting holes. install 1 between each bolt hole and the swing arm.

8. Check chain to slider clearance. It should be close but ok. Add 1 more washer if necessary.

:beer

[bkvette3]

Hello bkvette3;


If you want to do it on a budget, you can make on for around $4.00 in around an hour. If the slider is in a recessed channel use option b below. The good thing is that if it works you saved some money. They other good thing is, if it doesn't work you are only out around $4.00. The other good thin is, if it does work and doesn't fail after a few rides which is unlikely, you can make a second one and see if it will sell on Ebay for around $29.95 if you want and advertise it as an "upgrade"', lol.

Your chain might make slightly more noise with the nylon than the rubber whenever it hits it. If the chain is properly adjusted, it should take a LONG time before it wears through the heads of the plastic retainers used in option 2 below.


Here’s some options.

1. Buy a sheet of 6.6 nylon around 8” wide and around 3/16” thick. The extra width is for mounting tabs and also to make another if needed.

2. Clean the slider.

2. Put a 3/4” - 1” wide piece of masking tape on the slider just behind the front nut and wrap it around the bend in the skid plate onto the flat part by around 1”. This represents the front mounting tab.

3. Do the same on the rear by placing the rear edge of the tape around 1” forward of the skid plates rear mounting hole and extend the tape over the first exposed rib. This represents the rear mounting tab.

4. Remove the slider, lay it upside down on the plastic with the outside edge even with the plastic and mark the plastic then simply cut it out with a hacksaw etc..

5. Put the plastic on the skid plate.

6. Drill a 3/16” hole on the skid plate so it is centered in the tab.

7. Drill a 1/8” hole in the plastic.

8. Put some grease on a flat head sheet metal screw and screw it into the plastic from the bottom side of the skid plate. You can also just drill the same size hole in both and secure it with a bolt, flat washers and lock nut.

9. Put on some gloves then hold the front of the plastic in place and CAREFULLY heat it with a heat shrink gun. It is EXTREMELY easy to overheat it. Use the end of a wooden hammar to hold it in place if your fingers get too toasty.

Push on the tab periodically with your fingers or the end of a wooden hammar. Once it is soft enough, start to bend it. You probably have to do this in two steps because once the heat is removed, it will harden up quickly. If someone else holds it you can do it in one step.

10. once bent you can remove the plastic and bend the tab a hair more to force the slider section down on the skid plate slightly if it is not laying flat.

11.drill hole and mount as desired.

12. file front edge slightly so the chain will go over it more easily.

13. you can also glue it to the skid plate with weather strip adhesive as increased security if you want.



Plan b.

1. Do the same as above but use a 5/16” thick piece of plastic.

2. Cut it the width of the original slider with no tabs.

3. Plunge some 3/8” mounting holes in it around 1/2 way through with a wood bore. They are around $3.00 - $6 00. at the hardware store. The link below shows 1 style.

http://www.sourcingmap.com/22mm-borer-drill-diameter-hinge-boring-drill-bit-woodworkers-wood-hole-saw-p-357104.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=usfroogle&gclid=CNS3nMGugL4CFSho7AodO2AACQ

4. Drill 1/4” holes all the way through the slider and the skid plate.

5. Secure with plastic push retainers or plastic button head screws which can found in the “Help” section of most auto parts stores. See photos in links below. The screws are best.

Push retainers B-10967, B-13166

https://www.amkproducts.com/Catalog_PDF/151-164.pdf

Plastic button head screws.

http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-mg/countersunk-button-head-screws-56533-2350439.jpg

6. File front edge of slider.

7. Buy 8 grade 8 flat washers the size of the skid plate mounting holes. install 1 between each bolt hole and the swing arm.

8. Check chain to slider clearance. It should be close but ok. Add 1 more washer if necessary.

:beer



Damn good idea - going to give that a try. Thanks for posting. BK3

[barnett468]

Damn good idea - going to give that a try. Thanks for posting. BK3

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Hi bkvette3;

No prob, you're very welcome as always, I'm happy if it works for you. Let us know how it goes. You can spend what you saved on frosty beverages. Let us know how it goes. It’s obviously not rocket science. I used to make stuff like this all the time when I worked at Kawi. The good thing is that the chain only periodically slaps it. You can also obviously just put washers under the front if needed, especially since due to the chain direction, it is the most likely location for the chain to catch the edge of the “slider” so to speak.

I and another guy formed a clear plastic windshield for the boat one day with a band saw and heat gun. If I can do that, you can easily make the nylon slider, lol. Below is a photo of “Das Boat” as we called it, sans the windshield. Most people never even knew this thing existed. After your last pm to me I thought you might enjoy seeing one if you haven’t already. This project was fun to build and a blast to test.

http://www.kawasaki.ca/assets/img/frontend/corporate/jetski-museum/large/89-JET-MATE-650A.jpg

:beer

[DohcBikes]

Ha. I'm guessing you had some input on the joystick control there.:lol:

[slashfan7964]

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did :lol:

[barnett468]

Ha. I'm guessing you had some input on the joystick control there.:lol:


It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did :lol:

Wow, you guys are just…well…PERVS! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Poco Loco]

Its been so long sense Ive seen a stock skid plate I forgot allllll about that skid plate slider. Duh on me