My 1st Trike! 1982 Honda 250R Mega Pics and Videos

[MPDano]

Well, I pulled trigger and got my first Trike. I felt like like I got a great deal and since it has carb issues, I was able to negotiate further. I already knew it was a stuck float. He he.

I just removed the carb today after work and gave it a good cleaning of all the jets and especially the float plunger. Well, she's a runner now. My yard only allows me to get into 1st gear but at least I know the clutch is good and the tranny sounds good. Drove it around the yard for about 15 mins and she is now leaking from the large seal around the float cup. No biggie.

She has a nice exhaust leak where there should be a gasket. Sheesh, even the headlight works. What do you think she's worth by the pics posted?

Here are my needs so far:

1) Carb rebuild kit
2) Choke assembly (plastic) 16046-961-004
3) Exhaust Manifold Gasket 18352-961-010 & 18358-961-003
4) Seat Cover
5) Gas Tank (stock)
6) Rear Cooler Rack
7) Decal Kit

I think 1 thru 3 are the most important for now. Where is the best place to get them?

Thanks in advance!

Leo

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[MPDano]

A quick video


http://youtu.be/QLSiYapPpMo

[pipeline triker]

Looks like a decent trike. Ebay is the cheapest place to get the carb parts. The exhaust leak you are refering to, is it around the pipe and the exhaust flange or between engine and flange. Seems most all 81-84 R leak there somewhat. If you go to remove the flange from the cylinder be very carful with the three small bolts, they like to twist off. That tank is huge, it must be a desert tank for a dirt bike with it sitting so high on the frame. Your headlight is not 82R, looks like an 83-84 light and housing with an sx gaurd. You will love it, the first gen R's ride like no other atv made. Wether thats a good or a bad thing you will deceide. I like them and they are fairly easy to work on. I have a build thread of an 81 racer and my wifes 81 that I am working on along with an 84 with the 300 kit I am building. Don't let anyone talk you into putting a 200x front on it, the charm of the 81-82 is the wide tire and that low slung look.

[MPDano]

Looks like a decent trike. Ebay is the cheapest place to get the carb parts. The exhaust leak you are refering to, is it around the pipe and the exhaust flange or between engine and flange. Seems most all 81-84 R leak there somewhat. If you go to remove the flange from the cylinder be very carful with the three small bolts, they like to twist off. That tank is huge, it must be a desert tank for a dirt bike with it sitting so high on the frame. Your headlight is not 82R, looks like an 83-84 light and housing with an sx gaurd. You will love it, the first gen R's ride like no other atv made. Wether thats a good or a bad thing you will deceide. I like them and they are fairly easy to work on. I have a build thread of an 81 racer and my wifes 81 that I am working on along with an 84 with the 300 kit I am building. Don't let anyone talk you into putting a 200x front on it, the charm of the 81-82 is the wide tire and that low slung look.

Awesome! Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the tank really bothers me and will get changed out before I even bring it out to the Desert. Is there some sort of o-ring of sorts around the flange/pipe connection. The set up looks just like my Odyssey but it's been awhile since I've worked on it. Is there some sort of diagram with parts and numbers somewhere? The light and cage I'll keep, just spruce it up a bit. The piece of frame where the rear handle bolts to is bent, so I will straighten that before getting a rack of some sort. No chance on changing out the front end as I will keep it mostly as-is. I may take it apart to paint the frame, etc. I also don't really like how the whole engine, etc is painted red. I would like to get it to silver looking.

Also, you can see the stance, I am wondering if the rear looks too low and the front too high? I see the adjustment areas, but wondering if this looks correct.

Thanks again for the reply.

Leo

[czac]

it doesn't look like its worth too much besides being so old and needing so much work, tell ya what ill do, since I am such a nice guy, I will let you send it to me along with $100.00 and get it off your hands for ya! :naughty:

lol... actually, who cares what its word, fix her up and ride it like its your job!!!

[czac]

.........And you got a pool to ya bum!!!! lol I love the red engines on these, they look nice. I wonder if I should paint my DXN's engine yellow? lol Hmmmmm, may have to Photoshop it to get an idea of what it would look like! I love the Air cooled trikes, they look so much balls-ier than the water cooled machines... maybe im just old school like that... who knows, good luck with it and yeah, that gas tank is funny looking but I bet one fill up would last a long time!

[czac]

Here are my needs so far:

1) Carb rebuild kit
2) Choke assembly (plastic)
3) Exhaust Manifold Gasket
4) Seat Cover
5) Gas Tank (stock)
6) Rear Cooler Rack
7) Decal Kit

I think 1 thru 3 are the most important for now. Where is the best place to get them?

Thanks in advance!

Leo



Cooler rack: check on EBay... when I was looking for a new rear grab bar I kept seeing an aluminum one with the six pack holder (might be too small?) for like anywhere from $25.00 to $79.00 not sure on the $25.00 one though as I emailed the seller a couple times for sizing and he never responded so... let the buyer beware on that one...lol

Seat cover... look up a member here called Mosh or something like that, they made my Yamaha old school bar pad that is awesome but has been retired because I friend (another member here who lives in the next town over from me) found an original Yamaha bar pad from the very early 80s at his work so that's now on the trike! But Mosh has done a ton of seats for members here and does customs too.

Gas tank: Ebay or try the classifieds here, lots of members have 250R's on this site so there may be one for sale.

Stickers /Graphics sets: Ebay, but if not, there is a member here, I forget his mane but I believe he does repro stickers, maybe he'll see this and IM you or someone else will hook you up with his contact info.

Choke and Carb kits: Ebay... or try Partzilla . com look up your trike and then check out the parts lists for the different parts and part numbers... I got most off the parts
to rebuild my trikes carb from them. it worked out to be just a touch more than what the kit on Ebay was listed for... which I would have bought but it sold before I got off my butt to buy it... lol

[MPDano]

Found a site for part numbers:

http://www.hondapartspitstop.com/oemparts/#/l/hon/50541770f870021c54bef625/1982-atc250r-a-parts

[MPDano]

Cooler rack: check on EBay... when I was looking for a new rear grab bar I kept seeing an aluminum one with the six pack holder (might be too small?) for like anywhere from $25.00 to $79.00 not sure on the $25.00 one though as I emailed the seller a couple times for sizing and he never responded so... let the buyer beware on that one...lol

Seat cover... look up a member here called Mosh or something like that, they made my Yamaha old school bar pad that is awesome but has been retired because I friend (another member here who lives in the next town over from me) found an original Yamaha bar pad from the very early 80s at his work so that's now on the trike! But Mosh has done a ton of seats for members here and does customs too.

Gas tank: Ebay or try the classifieds here, lots of members have 250R's on this site so there may be one for sale.

Stickers /Graphics sets: Ebay, but if not, there is a member here, I forget his mane but I believe he does repro stickers, maybe he'll see this and IM you or someone else will hook you up with his contact info.

Choke and Carb kits: Ebay... or try Partzilla . com look up your trike and then check out the parts lists for the different parts and part numbers... I got most off the parts
to rebuild my trikes carb from them. it worked out to be just a touch more than what the kit on Ebay was listed for... which I would have bought but it sold before I got off my butt to buy it... lol

Great info man. Much appreciated. Yeah, found the partzilla site just a few mins ago. Great for looking up the part numbers. Thanks for all the hook up on advice!

Can't access Classifieds, I believe since I am a noob. Need two months veterans time to pass. Bummer.

Leo

[pipeline triker]

I like the red engine, only the 81-82's had them. This is a pic of my wifes.
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/mbsdirtbike/1981atc250R2-27-14005_zps19a3c590.jpg (http://s656.photobucket.com/user/mbsdirtbike/media/1981atc250R2-27-14005_zps19a3c590.jpg.html)

Your front looks so high because the first gen's are a little low in the back and it looks like the front tire is or has been overinflated, the tall tank also makes it look taller in the front than it is.

The exhaust uses a ring to seal the pipe to the flange, I think the 250cc oddys use the same set up. I have found if the gap in the ring is facing up they leak less. I was thinking of trying a high temp rubber type o-ring in one. Worst it could do is melt.

[MPDano]

I like the red engine, only the 81-82's had them. This is a pic of my wifes.

Your front looks so high because the first gen's are a little low in the back and it looks like the front tire is or has been overinflated, the tall tank also makes it look taller in the front than it is.

The exhaust uses a ring to seal the pipe to the flange, I think the 250cc oddys use the same set up. I have found if the gap in the ring is facing up they leak less. I was thinking of trying a high temp rubber type o-ring in one. Worst it could do is melt.

Nice trike. Yeah I thought the o-ring was familiar in my Odyssey. Maybe I can find that seal easier.

I will try and lower the psi on the front tire as it was how I got it.

Thanks for the pic and reply.

Leo

[MPDano]

Just bought the carb rebuild kit. I also purchased the Honda Odyssey Exhaust rings, there are two. If I remember correctly, one was metal and the other was some sort of fiber material. If they fit, I will update my thread above.

[MPDano]

Bought a black seat cover with Honda on rear

[jakep53]

congrats on the bike you will love it they fly!! and everyone I spoke to said it would handle like a pig but when I rode it I was very surprised!!! and I found it is more contrable with more pressure in the front tyre!!

[MPDano]

congrats on the bike you will love it they fly!! and everyone I spoke to said it would handle like a pig but when I rode it I was very surprised!!! and I found it is more contrable with more pressure in the front tyre!!

Thanks! Can't wait to get it out and give it a test after I get all the above parts installed. Desert season is quickly approaching and my toys are itching to get some dirt/sand time.

[MPDano]

Started some disassemby and some painting some parts, etc. Cleaned up the frame a little. Straightened the rear rack mount and then welded the bend for strength. Welded the standoff as well as creating one using a nut with the same bolt thread size and pitch.

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[Bren_downe]

While you have your pipe off you should look in the exhaust port and give a little visual inspection of your piston and cylinder walls.

[MPDano]

While you have your pipe off you should look in the exhaust port and give a little visual inspection of your piston and cylinder walls.

Good idea. Will do!

Leo

[MPDano]

Got the total hookup from Paul of San Diego. Glad to have a local ATC guy here. Got a Tank/Cap/Petcock, Rear Fender, Cooler Rack, Carb Choke Assembly and misc nuts n bolts for a killer deal.

As soon as I got home, I mounted up the tank (looks normal now) and painted the weld areas with some Rustoleum Sunrise Red Rattle Can Paint.

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[MPDano]

Rebuilt the Carb after work and installed the new Choke assembly. Man removing the broken Choke Assembly was a pain. Carb soaked in Berrymans for a couple days, love that stuff. Anyways, Air Filter Box reinstalled as well as Rebuilt Carb.

Pic is a 155 Main Jet that was in the old and the new one that was in the kit is 150, which is the one I installed.

Also, ordered some Red ODI Mushroom Grips (love em from back in my BMX days) and a Uni Filter.

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[manbearpig]

I would advise you to keep the 155. It was likely installed by the previous owner who rode in sand. Your motor only has the fuel it burns and the air traveling over it to cool it. Sand will rob power, overheat, and melt down an air cooled 2 stroke motor in minutes if not jetted properly. Yes, 150 was the stock size, and you dont have any 'high flow' mods that would require a larger main, but for the dunes, fat is safe, and safe gets your bike through the entire weekend. youre not gonna win any drag races up test hill with that thing, so just getting it to live is your main goal. It will probably run just fine with the 150 at Corral Canyon or Pine Valley, but take it to Gordon's or Superstition and it will run hot. Jet for the long haul. Improper jetting gets expensive, real fast.

[MPDano]

I would advise you to keep the 155. It was likely installed by the previous owner who rode in sand. Your motor only has the fuel it burns and the air traveling over it to cool it. Sand will rob power, overheat, and melt down an air cooled 2 stroke motor in minutes if not jetted properly. Yes, 150 was the stock size, and you dont have any 'high flow' mods that would require a larger main, but for the dunes, fat is safe, and safe gets your bike through the entire weekend. youre not gonna win any drag races up test hill with that thing, so just getting it to live is your main goal. It will probably run just fine with the 150 at Corral Canyon or Pine Valley, but take it to Gordon's or Superstition and it will run hot. Jet for the long haul. Improper jetting gets expensive, real fast.

Great point. Thanks for posting this. I'll switch jets asap!

Leo

[MPDano]

Bought new taillight bulbs (part # 34902-259-000) and spark plugs (NGK B8ES)

Painted the Exhaust Pipe and Silencer with flat black header paint. Reveived the Odyssey Exhaust sealing metal ring and gasket, will chime back on fitment.

[jb2wheels]

Great thread. Excellent 82!

[MPDano]

Great thread. Excellent 82!

Thanks! Trying to keep the thread useful for others as well.

[MPDano]

Exhaust reinstalled. The Odyssey metal Ring and Gasket were too large. Weird that my 79 Odyssey had a larger exhaust and motor is the same one. Anyways, my metal ring on the ATC was fine, so I cut down the paper ring (looked almost like cardboard) and installed it. Hooked up my Tank and put some 32:1 gas in and fired it up. Put the old Fender/Seat on and drove around my yard again. Can't wait to get this all together and on the local trails.

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[MPDano]

Removed the rust off the Cooler Rack and polished it up and hit it with some Clear Coat. Polished up the Shock and Canister and also put clear on it. Removed as much rust off the Seat Pan and put some black paint to keep the rust in control. Going to install the new Seat Cover at some point over this weekend.

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[manbearpig]

dont forget to oil that filter. best to do before installation to get the best coverage. lookin good!

[MPDano]

dont forget to oil that filter. best to do before installation to get the best coverage. lookin good!

Thanks Man, but I did already. I always use my K&N oil on my toys. Got that covered. Thanks for the compliment. Working on the seat foam now, hope to get it on the trike tomorrow.

[MPDano]

Fixed my Seat Foam, installed the new seat cover and installed the Rear Fender. Installed the Skid Plate and gave another test ride in the backyard. This toy is so much fun.

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[MPDano]

Doesn't feel like a 250 Rrrrr until you badge it. Thanks Harlan for the kickass decals. They are perfect!

Harlan Lysne [hjlysne@charter.net]

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[MPDano]

Removed the Clutch Cover and Forks. Man, those are a bear to remove the axle shaft. Pretty sure it's never been removed since it was built in 1982. Removed the red Paint and was going to paint them black, but the aluminum under the paint was so nice, I decided to just polish them up and clear coat them. Did a quick polish on one of the forks, will make them better but ran out of daylight.

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[MPDano]

Finished polishing up the forks, gear shifter and Renthal bars, then put some clear coat on them. Painted the clutch cover black. Gonna let it all dry overnight and install after work tomorrow.

Paul from San Diego hooked me up with 5 bars to try. I really like the bars that match the bend of my motocross bike.

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[jb2wheels]

Looks great - lots of work happening really fast. Vacation time?

What are you using for a clear coat on the aluminum? I ask because when I polish or even just scuff/clean aluminum, I leave it bare. Curious about how well the clear works over time.

[MPDano]

Looks great - lots of work happening really fast. Vacation time?

What are you using for a clear coat on the aluminum? I ask because when I polish or even just scuff/clean aluminum, I leave it bare. Curious about how well the clear works over time.

No vacation time. Pretty much work on it after my real job. Trying to get it done before riding season here. I use Clear Gloss For Wheels. It dries super fast and hard. I've used the colored wheel paint in the past and it works really well. I've had it on my sons 85cc Yamaha Badger now for 2 years and it still looks new.

I used the same clear on my triple clamps on my KTM 250SX and the same results. If you polish the aluminum, clearing it makes it look like polished nickle. Hope this info helps.

Leo

Also just bought some Red Acerbis hand guards as they did a great job on keeping my levers safe on my KTM. I've actually snapped my ASV breakaway clutch lever on my KTM, yes it's possible but not anymore with the handguards.

[MPDano]

Installed the Renthal Handlebars, Mushroom Grips, Forks and Clutch Cover with a new O-Ring of course. Filled up the gearcase with Honda Racing Gearcase Oil.

Love the bend in these Renthals, they feel just like my KTM Dirtbike.

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[jb2wheels]

Your Odyssey looks clean, too. Santa brought us a 79 for Christmas in like 80 or 81. Rode the wheels off it - literally when the rear axle finally broke.

Hard to search for them on Craigslist since Honda recycled the name but I digress.

[MPDano]

Your Odyssey looks clean, too. Santa brought us a 79 for Christmas in like 80 or 81. Rode the wheels off it - literally when the rear axle finally broke.

Hard to search for them on Craigslist since Honda recycled the name but I digress.

Thanks, I totally redid that 79 Odyssey. Runs like a raped ape too. I may get it out to the Desert this season. I just hate the pull starting.

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[MPDano]

Wire brushed all the rust off and wet sanded them then painted the wheels Gold and hit them with Satin Clear yesterday. One of the rears was very rusty inside. Put some Rustoleum Rust Restorer before painting them Gold. Installed metal valve stems.

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This is the paint I used.
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[M.Pargiello]

Looks good, I used the same gold but sprayed a gloss clear on them with my gun. Thought about a satin, but wanted more shine :)

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I found an easy way to assemble them without hitting the lips on chit, Just used an old axle bolted to a junk tire/wheel haha. Almost the perfect height!

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[MPDano]

Looks good, I used the same gold but sprayed a gloss clear on them with my gun. Thought about a satin, but wanted more shine :)

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I found an easy way to assemble them without hitting the lips on chit, Just used an old axle bolted to a junk tire/wheel haha. Almost the perfect height!

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Great homemade wheel stand. In my Quads, I have put them on their side when I was mounting their tires. Yeah, I had gloss too but decided they looked more stock in Satin. Your wheels look great.

[MPDano]

Couldn't do much on Sat since my wife threw a birthday party for me. Kind of a conjoined one as my bro in law is also around the same time. Was able to mount all the tires, but couldn't get the rear to bead seal. My compressor just doesn't have that oomph needed. Going to take them to the local MX shop and have them get the beads to seal.

Got the Front light and front fender mounted. Put a new rear bulb for the tail light and mounted it. Bled out all the old brake fluid with new. Rear master took a little McGyvering to get the air out, but I used a large syringe and pulled all the air out of the fluid reservoir and it finally started working. Glad that worked out ok.

Cleaned the chain and sprockets with Mineral Spririts and put some Chain Lube, then reinstalled.

I didn't like the ghetto aluminum paint the previous owner used on the rear hubs, so I removed the paint and polished up the metal and hit it with Gloss Clear.

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[jb2wheels]

I really enjoy this thread! I had an 82 back in like 85/6.

For seating beads, I use a clip on tire chuck I gutted. So, it always passes air but it moves a lot more volume. I also have a 1/4 valve on the compressor.

With the valve closed on the compressor, I lube up the beads, pull the valve core from the valve stem on the rim, clip on the chuck, open the valve, and when the 2nd bead pops on, I pull off the chuck.

I could never get enough volume with the normal chuck.

[MPDano]

I really enjoy this thread! I had an 82 back in like 85/6.

For seating beads, I use a clip on tire chuck I gutted. So, it always passes air but it moves a lot more volume. I also have a 1/4 valve on the compressor.

With the valve closed on the compressor, I lube up the beads, pull the valve core from the valve stem on the rim, clip on the chuck, open the valve, and when the 2nd bead pops on, I pull off the chuck.

I could never get enough volume with the normal chuck.

I had the same issue with my Odyssey tires but eventually was able to get them to seat. I've tried the strap on the tire center without luck either. I also removed the valve stem, same results. Hopefully they don't charge me to just put air in the tires ;)

[czac]

I just did my rear tires, take the core out of the valve stem and then air up the tire till the beads pop. I only have a little craftsman pancake compressor and it popped the beads on no problems. I used a blow gun to air the tires... a regular chuck wont work without the core in the valve. the little air gun or blow gun that came with the compressor has a rubber tip on it that's cone shaped so it fit in the tire valve stem... But, if worse comes to worse, try the starting fluid method, I used that on a trailer rim...lol scary but it works! check it out on YouTube! just be careful and remember to first REMOVE THE VALVE STEM CORE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N45KcCsBYmc

[MPDano]

I just did my rear tires, take the core out of the valve stem and then air up the tire till the beads pop. I only have a little craftsman pancake compressor and it popped the beads on no problems. I used a blow gun to air the tires... a regular chuck wont work without the core in the valve. the little air gun or blow gun that came with the compressor has a rubber tip on it that's cone shaped so it fit in the tire valve stem... But, if worse comes to worse, try the starting fluid method, I used that on a trailer rim...lol scary but it works! check it out on YouTube! just be careful and remember to first REMOVE THE VALVE STEM CORE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N45KcCsBYmc

Yeah, I was thinking about the starter fluid seal, but that didn't work for me on the Odyssey. I don't much like things that explode and the funny thing is that I am an Army Veteran too.

[czac]

no? worked like a charm for my trailer tire. Hmmmmm... how about finding a more powerful compressor, crank it to like 150 PSI and let her rip?

[MPDano]

no? worked like a charm for my trailer tire. Hmmmmm... how about finding a more powerful compressor, crank it to like 150 PSI and let her rip?

Thanks man. I've tried every which yesterday. Yup, I always remove the valve stem. I have a 25 gallon compressor too. The wheels are in my truck now, so I will get the local MX shop to do it.

[yaegerb]

you don't need much air to pop the beads. I turn my regulator down to 30 PSI when popping ATV tire beads. Make sure you lube the outter/inner lips on the wheel (I use dawn dish soap). The tires usually pop around 25.

[czac]

well, no ones gonna fault you for not trying..lol they should be able to pop em right for ya! good luck!

[MPDano]

you don't need much air to pop the beads. I turn my regulator down to 30 PSI when popping ATV tire beads. Make sure you lube the outter/inner lips on the wheel (I use dawn dish soap). The tires usually pop around 25.

I normally lube up the tire bead area and that usually works for me. I was thinking about the rim as well after the fact, but already loaded up the wheels in my truck.

[MPDano]

Well the project is now on hold. Two bad tires. Ughhh.

This sucks :cry:

[MPDano]

maybe I'll just buy two tubes with metal valves as I did the same thing with my mini-buggy and it holds up fine. Tires have great tread and hate to just ditch them. Choices choices.

[jakep53]

Well the project is now on hold. Two bad tires. Ughhh.

This sucks :cry:

don't put tubes in your tyres especially since its such a high powered ATC!! just get some new tyres...

[MPDano]

don't put tubes in your tyres especially since its such a high powered ATC!! just get some new tyres...

Sorry Jake, couldn't afford the new tires so went with some tubes I got at the local MX Shop. They got the steel valves on them too. The tubes are pretty beefy so I am not worried about it. Pics are taken at night when I finally got them all together and mounted. Will take final shots during the daylight. Going to try and get out this weekend and give it a good test ride.

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[MPDano]

I installed my new Acerbis Hand Guards today, I shortened my levers as I had to do the same thing on my KTM Dirtbike. Installed the lever sleeves and Handlebar Crossbar Pad. I love this trike, took it for a quick spin around my backyard then snapped some pics. Last thing to do is to put my Registration Decal and I am ready for the local trails this weekend. Bring it!!

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[perryc]

Looks awesome! Getting some ideas for a refresh on mine.

[MPDano]

Looks awesome! Getting some ideas for a refresh on mine.

Thanks Perry!

[MPDano]

My test video taken at McCain Valley with my family.


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[MPDano]

Registration Decal installed and legal eagle till 2016. Loaded up the 3 Reds and headed to McCain Valley. My 7 year old sons 70cc kept getting stuck in the softer sand areas, so I put him on my wifes 90cc and he rocked it.

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[MPDano]

Rinsed her off and used my air compressor to air dry. Now she's ready for another session.

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[hondatc88]

Great thread! Congrats on your first trike. You did a nice job fixin her up! Wish I had some desert to ride in and local ATC support :( Ride on!

[MPDano]

Great thread! Congrats on your first trike. You did a nice job fixin her up! Wish I had some desert to ride in and local ATC support :( Ride on!

Much thanks. Yeah, she runs great and plenty of power. I don't think I ever got her in 4th gear. Need to get better boots as my Tech3's, I felt I couldn't shift correctly. Desert season is coming soon and I am going to have a blast out in Ocotillo Wells probably in November.

[hondatc88]

Awesome man sounds like a blast and looks like it in the video too! I never really thought too much about the 1st gen 250r's but after checking out your thread i noticed how cool they are and remind me of my 85 200x.

[MPDano]

Awesome man sounds like a blast and looks like it in the video too! I never really thought too much about the 1st gen 250r's but after checking out your thread i noticed how cool they are and remind me of my 85 200x.

Thanks man. I absolutely love my first trike. I love being lazy on something that has awesome power too. My KTM 250SX dirtbike is super fun as well, but having to worry about balancing, etc get's real old after awhile. :D