9/11

[6speedthumper]

Another year has passed, making this 13 years since the most devastating day in American history. Every year I watch footage from the attacks. And, every year, new unseen footage is shown. It feels just like yesterday, although every year that passes it stings even worse then the year before.



I was 13, and in my 1st period English class when the attacks happened. I did not find out about them until well after 1pm, when the school system finally told us. Until they made that announcement, it was just an ordinary day for me. I think in a way it hit harder not knowing it happened until after the fact.



God bless all those that lost their lives that day. God bless all those that went above and beyond not only the call of duty, but, above and beyond what anyone should ever have to endure. So many people stepped up on this day 13 years ago, and showed us all that there is still good in this world. They stepped up and showed how selfless and how amazing the human race can be. Even though the fist of evil dealt the American people a 1-2 knock out punch, they are all heros. God bless you all and God bless the United States of America.

[Mr_Gixxer]

343 - Never Forgotten

Thank a firefighter today...













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Stupid auto correct...

[Dave Little]

ROTFLMAO, Cap't Stabbin out of Miami I believe is where he ties up. No time like the present.

[Lord Letto 20]

I was 12 and in Grade 5 (Promoted to Grade 6 later in the school year), just moved to Ontario from Newfoundland/Quebec 10 days prior (September 1st, my sisters 19th birthday), Flew with Canada 3000 to get here (Front row seat, CYDF-CYYZ), one of the airlines that fell afterwards due to bankruptcy, RIP to all the People and Companys that Fell that day and afterwards due to it.

[czac]

Went fishing today to commemorate 911 and OH........you should have seen the one`s that got away .......like bush and cheney !

Oh... Using Eel to get Blow fish huh? looks like you got lucky!

[czac]

I was at Work, my Bosses son who worked in one of the other buildings close to the towers called and told his Dad there was an explosion in one of the towers but they didn't hear anything about it yet, then he called back a little while later and said the tower was on fire and they went to go look and saw people jumping out of the windows.. he said it was a passenger jet that hit the tower . then his dad asked him if their building was ok and he was like yeah, we're good. so we turned on the little B&W TV we had and were watching the news live when the next plane hit the other tower, then he called back and said they were getting the EF out of dodge and that it was just pandemonium down there... it was crazy because after that second plane hit, its like time just stopped. the phones went dead and the only calls were from people who knew my Bosses son worked down there... after the towers fell, we shut down the shop and all went home. I remember watching CNN from the time I got home till late that night. then going on line to the old yahoo chat rooms and they were going crazy with all sorts of stories and people ranting and going nuts... it was an absolute crazy day. of all that, my bosses son says, all he can really, vividly remember is the people he saw jumping and the screams from on lookers, he said he doesn't know if the jumpers were screaming or not. but someone was!

[El Camexican]

Thank you for reviving this topic Glamy, I was disappointed to see Fabio shut his thread down before I had a chance to respond. You'll hear from me in a couple weeks. Meantime, you have a PM to answer.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Modern woman telling modern daughter that it's far better for the future of our species if she doesn't have babies.

I'm not gonna hold my breath, but it's exactly what needs to happen. It would also release millions from the confines of slavery because they aren't working to feed other people. They want you to have babies because it keeps you in line and creates another source of blood to drain building their fractional empire.

In case you haven't heard the news world famine has dropped to the lowest point in 25 years.

[sledcrazyinCT]

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Sure seems like humans can kill themselves off so easily without the need to practice abstinence


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[sledcrazyinCT]

Don't worry Dude, plenty of peeps don't want the hassle of raising a kid, takes too much time from their social life, besides most 'advanced' countries are slowing down their birth rates.....Remember the whole point of certain governments for bringing in Middle Eastern refugees was to bump start the populations of Western Europe.

[El Camexican]

Just spent a good while watching some very interesting "lights" in the clear night sky. The stars are bright. The number of lights from planes flying around in the darkness within view of the human eye is overwhelming.

Picture yourself on a trike going nowhere, Lucy in Sky with Diamonds...

[3 Wheel Drive]

I hope you don't actually believe that. More than 1 in 10 people in this world live malnourished. Regardless of how it relates to 25 years ago, that's bad.

However it's not the point. We are creating an environment that isn't acceptable. There isn't just one problem associated with the plague of humans.


I think these guys agree:


https://youtu.be/M_d7QkS1S-I

[redsox]

I'm game. I was also unhappy to see the other thread locked. Glad this is here. Been a little busy, but i'm lurking.

[El Camexican]

You have to want Truth ........you want it all but you can`t have it .......according to Dr. Steven Greer the President of the United States is just a hand puppet and does not know what the powers that be will do next !! .......it`s in your face but you can`t grab it !.........you are ruled by people you`ll never know ........and you`re perfectly willing to allow them to inflate the dollar and hurt you and turn around and make you pay for health insurance ........because you`re too busy supporting your dependants ........the money won`t save you .........the government won`t save you ..........you and your "PRODUCTS" will fall just like those Towers did ......The Dustification made those Towers disappear within 12 seconds .......people trapped in the basement .....all of a sudden saw daylight because NOTHING fell on them !! ..........do you foggen get what i`m sayin ....can`t ya smell what the glamster is cooking ??? ........a vulgar display of power that we have never seen before ........and you just let it go like NOTHING happened ......FA-Q......and the horse you rode in on .........Fard , shitty Chevy and Dogg they suck as bad as you do ! ....... bua bua bua hahahahahaha

Life is short, fockme if I'm going to waste it worring about what string some guy behind a green curtain is pulling. If fake paper money can buy me leaded fuel, Cuban rum, fattening foods, a Netflix subscription and a few vacations now and then you're damn right I'll work hard for the invisible man to get me some of that. Beats the fak out of living in a cave like my great great great great great grandfather used to hiding behind a fire and hoping to live past his 30th birthday.

Paranoia will destroy ya and then the man will not employ ya. It's good to be a sheep bahhhhhh!

[El Camexican]

That way of thinking works in the third world ........i would hope our standards are a little higher........i don`t care if no one else care`s .......it doesn't make it right .......three wrongs don`t make a right :crazy::rolleyes::crazy::crazy::crazy::beer:wonder ing:wondering:beer:wondering:beer:wondering...... it`s like settling for a Tri-z when you coulda shoulda woulda had Honda`s awesome `85 OR `86 ATC 250R the gold standard for witch all ATV`S are measured.....

Three Wongs make anything you want, love you long time too!

The USA is the best country in the world to live in if you don't mind starting at the bottom and working your way up, the third world doesn't offer opportunity to people who weren't born into rich families. Your Constitution is an act of genius. You actually CAN do something about a corrupt system, but I don't see an add for public access GTV (Glamy Television, I swear I would watch it!!!) or the Glamy Hour Puff-N-Pout Radio. Just Rush Limpjaw, Glenn Beck and Alex Jones. How da fock did they get on the air??? Why is the Queen a lizard?, Who killed the Electric Three Wheeler?

Sheep drive Honda's cuz they can't fix sheeeeeet, real men aren't scared to ride sputtering time bombs.

[El Camexican]

That's gonna be hard for me because I don't believe uncle Sams bedtime story 100%, but I also don't believe in a lot of the sh*t you seem to. If you ask me which I'm more scared of, a ray gun or a rag head I pick rag head every time.

Where are the missing pages of the 911 report 45 said he'd release? Lots of Trump fans on here, but I don't see anybody calling him out on that bullsh*t promise. What's he hiding? It's not like his tax returns are on the opposite side of the page.

[Scootertrash]

Welcome my son. Welcome, to the machine.

Unless you're living 100% off the grid and making your own fuel, you're just as much a part of the machine as anyone else.

[redsox]

I'd be interested to hear from everyone here. How many people, ballpark, do you think have direct knowledge and involvement in this conspiracy? I'm not talking about unwitting participants. I'm asking for a number of people, living or dead, who had actual malicious participation in the act and/or cover-up.

[86T3]

Sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Dude here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's the NOT The Dude

You can't "make" 70-125k a year and not pay taxes. You could bring in 70-125k a year, spend 90% of it on business expenses, "make" about 15k and live tax free though. You're out of your element Dude.

Glammy, i struggle to understand your posts most of the time but I always have a smile on my face while trying. Keep it up bud.

[bkm]

Wrong. I didn't add any humans to this mess. I'm ahead of the vast majority of people my age when it comes to not feeding the machine, I can promise you that. Several years where I made 75-120k a year and never paid a single dime in taxes. Don't talk about me like you know me.Knock knock! Hi Damon my name is Bob. I'm a fellow three wheeler enthusiast and just so happen to work for the I.R.S.. can we talk? Lol

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

[El Camexican]

Money is like sex, the people getting it don't talk about it.

If someone makes 120k in a year and gets a tax rebate it's because they didn't retain much of it.

Ladies and gentlemen, meet our resident rebel without a clue.

[El Camexican]

I'd be interested to hear from everyone here. How many people, ballpark, do you think have direct knowledge and involvement in this conspiracy? I'm not talking about unwitting participants. I'm asking for a number of people, living or dead, who had actual malicious participation in the act and/or cover-up.

Man, that is a tough question. Each scenario offers a set of variables that could drastically change the number of people involved. For example, were the people on the flights alleged to have hit the buildings murdered, or did they never exist in the first place?

Were the grieving family members people who truly lost love ones or actors? Was everybody in the area of the pentagon that got hit ordered out of there, told to stay home for the day, or never meant to be there in the first place?

Was bin Laden a willing participant in this? Where the 19 men alleged to have participated in the flights real people paid to take the fall, or were they invented? What about Seal team six, did they even exist?

How many guys worked on setting demolitions in the towers that have not come forward to say that they did it? That would include engineers, chemical companies, the people who did the installations, the people who did the sheet rock and painting afterwords and the guards and security personnel who would have had to have let them in at night for months on end. Of course if we go with the concrete desintegrating ray gun theory the question is mute, but then all of those flashes of light as the building goes down have to be ignored or discredited.

I'd put the number of conspirators and co-conspirators willing or not at well over 500 and I think that's being very conservative. If that's true it also means that nobody told their wives or girlfriends anything and everybody was either murdered, or paid off not to speak a word all these years later.

Meanwhile Bill Clinton couldn't get a blowjob in the privacy of his own office without the whole world finding out about it, teaching us that two people can keep a secret if one of them can swallow.

[El Camexican]

Yep. I spend every last fkn penny of that worthless shlt when I get it. Ya'll follow the rules you made up for yourself and have a blast doing it.

Says the guy that stiffed his so called friend AK47kid. Next time you get your hands on some of that worthless paper maybe you should square up with him. Until then you're just Milner with a necklace.

[El Camexican]

Always personally attacking me Nico. When did I do that to you? You just mad cuz milner buttfvcked everyone after I told em he was a fraud. You have no reason to be so fkn catty with me man. Let it go. This fork issue was hashed out over a year ago.

Just like all your other BS, you think if enough time passes people will forget your past dochery. You were sent photos of bent forks and were either too wasted or too stupid to notice so instead of sending them back you bonned poor little Cody.

Here you are now taking about how much money you've made and how little taxes you paid, but you had to get a kid that wasn't even old enough to drink to front you the parts because you were flat azz broke. Now don't get me wrong, plenty of decent people have fallen on hard financial times, but only a few special ones like yourself will go on to beak off about how people who don't agree with your distorted concept of reality are cogs in the machine and bowing down to the man if they get up everyday and work for the worthless dollar to raise a kid, buy a house or plan for retirement. Who's gonna wipe your azz when the day comes that you can't reach it? I guess that will be the day when you cry that the government you didn't pay any taxes to isn't taking care of you.

Weren't you moving to some wonderful far off country where unicorns sh*t Fruit Loops and the rain tastes like champagne? How'd that workout? Back so soon? LOL! Talk is cheap and you sure do a lot of it.

Now you come on here with your fourth or fifth alias and start calling longtime members names and questioning their intelligence because they don't agree with you on a controversial topic and you wonder why I'm calling you out?

As long as you're going to keep attacking people on this site for no reason other than to give your insignificant life meaning I'll be here to remind you when you posts contradict your actions and words.

Does that answer your question?

[86T3]

The Chinaman isn't the issue Dude! Dude, you're being very Un-Dude. And do you have to use so many cuss words Dude?

[fabiodriven]

Life is short, fockme if I'm going to waste it worring about what string some guy behind a green curtain is pulling. If fake paper money can buy me leaded fuel, Cuban rum, fattening foods, a Netflix subscription and a few vacations now and then you're damn right I'll work hard for the invisible man to get me some of that. Beats the fak out of living in a cave like my great great great great great grandfather used to hiding behind a fire and hoping to live past his 30th birthday.

Paranoia will destroy ya and then the man will not employ ya. It's good to be a sheep bahhhhhh!

Please do not mistake this post for my triumphant return, as this conversation is a waste of time for me anymore. I just poked my head back in and I see a lot that bothers me, but this I am having difficulties letting slip.

You're right Nico. You're not American but thank you for portraying just how 95% of people think. We live in this plush land of excess, our every whim catered to (if we're not trapped at work). A roof over many people's heads and dollar cheeseburgers for all. I've not figured out if you're serious or being sarcastic, but either way it bothers me. You, Dan, Scooter, and the rest of the sheep take advantage and live it up, but what seems like such a bargain to you has been paid for by the blood, sweat, and tears of others. The audacity people have to even make a joke about such a thing, and I know for a fact you've seen some really poor parts of this planet where many of our comforts originate. People working for next to nothing and destroying the environment so we can have a new set of sneakers every month and throw-away appliances. We make child labor illegal as well as laws regarding the environment, then we farm it out to some brown people somewhere to have their kids make our stuff and destroy their environments. All the while people sit here and joke about that.

The truth is, many of you do not know what it's like to go without. I'm not talking about you growing up not getting a new bicycle for Christmas, I'm talking about living in a desert with nothing, and I only did it for ten months. Imagine what that's like to be your life and all you know. So many of you act so proud. Honestly it's laughable to me.

So you're right Nico, don't worry about anything, because it will all be taken care of by someone else. Someone else's land will get polluted, someone else's kid will make your shoes, someone else's country will get bombed, and someone else will protect you and fight for you. I am one of few "someone else's" speaking here, because very few of you can say you've been in any one of those scenarios. I feel it is my life experience that enables me to see things in a different light than you all, and that's cute if you guys are OK with it, but I am not. My concern for the dead and the infringements imposed upon the living far, far exceeds my concern for offending anyone, including any of you all, and does challenge friendships. Perhaps I'm growing into the old cliche cranky paranoid veteran, or perhaps I have been just that for quite some time, but I was tricked into having a hand in these atrocities just like so many of you are currently. I am not saying this to brag, but I have sacrificed my body and my mind for these things, I have been there. Very few of you here can say that, and I have seen parts of the machine first hand that none of you ever will, and some of you will never understand. Most of you will never understand. Yes, I am salty over this and I will always have that reaction because it makes everything I have done seem for not.

Unfortunately I am not able to stop caring. Many of you I have trouble caring for personally as I used to, but unfortunately for me, I care for people and this place as a whole. And before you fire up your yap Scooter and tell me to start making my own boots if I don't want to encourage child labor and imported garbage I'm working on getting as self-sufficient as I can possibly be, it doesn't just happen overnight. I am a product of the machine as well, born into debt just as every one of you cattle. The fact that you all laugh at what you are and wallow in it is much to the chagrin of those at the top, I can assure you. Happy little bees running around gathering your pollen all day. You think you're comfortable and life ain't so bad, but you are unaware of anything different. You don't realize what society could be because society has never been allowed to blossom into it's true potential.

So if I hurt your feelings with my strong attempts at getting you to see something, it means I care, or did at one time. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have said anything. That policy is changing though. I'm going more with a "trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro you all, I've been through much worse and know I'll be fine" policy from here on out I think.

Speaking of hurting feelings, I'm sure this will shed some tears. In attempting to communicate with many of the members who have posted on 9/11, I do have to "dumb down" some of the things I'm trying to portray on here. As I said before, I have studied this subject quite a bit on and off over the years, so I should know a thing or two about it. I have always had a knack for science and physics, and as of late math has really been more of a strong suit for me than it used to be. At times I don't even understand how my mind is comprehending the things that it is, and in those circumstances it can be difficult for me to explain to someone else something that I don't fully understand myself. My mind sometimes understands things that seem beyond my conscious level of understanding, but it does understand, then I can kind of understand things by feel and in turn, learn. I have learned a lot on this subject and present the best material I can find for you all to see here. Not because I want to get into an argument, not because I want you to join my religion, and not for anyone's entertainment, but because I care. I understand the need for elaboration but the honest truth is I feel like our gap in knowledge is a huge communication barrier. Insulted yet? That would be your ego, because if you have a problem with me being smarter than you that's your problem, not mine. You're better looking than me, you're more successful, you're stronger than me, and you've got way more friends on the Bookface. Guess how much of that bothers me? So take your offense and shove it, this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro is too important for feelings and egos. I'm not exaggerating when I say that most of the material presented to me challenging my beliefs and ideals in regards to 9/11 were elementary school level. Beginner bullshit. I have been studying this subject for long before my thread was ever started in 2012, and as I've repeated multiple times, I didn't start my foray into this subject as a skeptic in regards to the story given by our government. I started out thinking the idea that anything defying the original NIST report was absurd, just like you guys are saying now, and that was probably at least seven years ago. My drive in life, the thing I thirst for more than anything else, well it's actually love but right along side that is the truth. It is how I am wired, and if any of you know me you know that to be the case. I know where I have been and I know what I have seen. I know how science works and I know the laws of Newtonian physics, and I know what's possible and what is not. I know you all think you're doing the right thing, yay, and you're waving your flags while you're drunk and distracted watching your football games, hooray, and I'm just some crazy kook veteran who left his mind on the other side of the planet.

What I don't like is the glorification and humor associated with letting these atrocities take place, as well as others, with the insinuation that being fat, drunk, and happy is somehow a success. But then again, maybe that's just exactly where we differ. Nothing is free, everything comes at a price. It's people like me who have paid for your ability to be fat, drunk, and happy, and that certainly was my choice. I wouldn't change a thing if I could. Honestly it's my mistake thinking for some reason any of you would care when you have no incentive to anyways, so my apologies for assuming any of you would give a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro whatsoever, and then ever do anything about it if you did. Someone else will do it for you.

Here's more "homework". If you don't have time to learn about your planet and how it truly works that's fine. If you feel the need to filibuster and cause confusion in this thread or any time you see anything posted about this subject, go for it. Fucks given for you all anymore; zero. I just hope you someday realize what you are and own it. You live your dream and someone else will take care of everything for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UbAgq3u6lQ

[El Camexican]

I'm going to be strapped for time and YouTube & googleless for another week, but I'm pretty sure whatever I respond with is going to include a "so what are we supposed to do about it?"

I like Glamy's "rush the banks" mentality and was all for it 30 years ago when I didn't have anything in the bank LOL! But the current average standard of living in the USA will never draw more than a few dozen people into the withdrawal line. Things have to bottom out before change happens and as mentioned 95% don't think we're anywhere near it.

Of course all that can change in a blink with a CA earthquake, Yellowstone volcano blast, Sun flare or nuclear war, but not before.

I'd better stop now, later.

[Scootertrash]

Wrong. I didn't add any humans to this mess.

And the world is much better of for that. Not in the way you'd like to think tho.



I'm ahead of the vast majority of people my age when it comes to not feeding the machine, I can promise you that. Several years where I made 75-120k a year and never paid a single dime in taxes.

That's not saying much. It doesn't matter how far ahead of others you THINK you are. You're still feeding the machine.

And you donated a large chunk of that to help those less fortunate than you, right? The suffering children? The under-educated minorities ? The poor single mothers with multiple baby daddies popping out more crotch fruit for another welfare check? All those people who you like to claim never got a fair shake? All those people you like to claim are held down by the rich white man?


Don't talk about me like you know me.

As soon as you quit talking about others like you know them.

[3 Wheel Drive]

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[Scootertrash]

Modern woman telling modern daughter that it's far better for the future of our species if she doesn't have babies.

I'm not gonna hold my breath, but it's exactly what needs to happen. It would also release millions from the confines of slavery because they aren't working to feed other people. They want you to have babies because it keeps you in line and creates another source of blood to drain building their fractional empire.

Take your left wing progressive save the world BS where it belongs, to the third world sh!t holes who can't seem to stop over populating. The problem isn't this country Duuude:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-steven-friedman/population-growth-worldwide_b_1245202.html


The top countries in order of the expected increase in population between 2010 and 2050 are:

(1) India 467 million projected population increase
(2) Nigeria 231 million
(3) Pakistan 101 million
(4) Tanzania 93 million
(5) United States 93 million
(6) DR Congo 83 million
(7) Ethiopia 62 million
(8) Philippines 62 million
(9) Uganda 61 million
(10) Kenya 56 million


Regarding the fertility rate, the U.S. is the only country in the top 10 with a total fertility rate (defined the expected number of children born per woman in her child-bearing years) near the replacement rate. The other top 10 countries have much higher total fertility rates, vastly exceeding the global average.


Additionally, the U.S. immigration rate is above the OECD average.

[Scootertrash]

I'm going to be strapped for time and YouTube & googleless for another week, but I'm pretty sure whatever I respond with is going to include a "so what are we supposed to do about it?"

The only solution is for guys like you, me, redsox, etc, is to lower our standard of living to met THEIR (Fabio, DOHCdude420whatever) expectations. Fabio and Dude have convinced themselves that a majority of the members here are somehow living in the lap of luxury making high 6 figure incomes, buying every new toy, gadget, iphone, vehicle, whatever, that comes rolling down the line when in reality that couldn't be further from the truth. Along with that, they think that every member here is glued to the boob tube being brainwashed.

All the while they buy cheap tents and trailers and other sh!t manufactured in or from parts made in China, a country with a far worse record of human rights violations than most other countries and especially the US, and convince themselves that they are sticking it to the man, all the while complaining about foreign child labor and polluting foreign countries when in reality they are contributing to that very problem.


I like Glamy's "rush the banks" mentality and was all for it 30 years ago when I didn't have anything in the bank LOL! But the current average standard of living in the USA will never draw more than a few dozen people into the withdrawal line. Things have to bottom out before change happens and as mentioned 95% don't think we're anywhere near it.

Never mind the fact that the "Illuminati" will never let the banks empty their vaults, nor give the peasants all of "their" money.


Of course all that can change in a blink with a CA earthquake, Yellowstone volcano blast, Sun flare or nuclear war, but not before.

I'd better stop now, later.

You are correct. And guess who will be the first to be attacked/villianized? The middle class. Why? Because the ones at the top can't be reached to be overthrown. They'll have their well paid armies to defend them. Who will those armies consist of you ask? I mean since everybody knows that the Ultra rich elite are to blame, who in their right mind would ally with them and protect them? Gangs, Gangbangers, thugs and criminals. Yup, that's right, the very people who scream the loudest about the rich being their oppressors will actually defend them for payment in money, food, drugs, etc.

Once things quiet down and the Elite start going back to controlling everything, there will be a few troublemakers that start to question the authority. Those in control will hang, or put a bullet in the head of some of the "agitators", in public of course, to force the peasants to toe the line. Other less vocal people will be put in prison for months or years for their "crimes against the state."

All you have to do is look at any military coup or violent take-over that's happened in other countries (Venezuela anyone?). In the end, The elite rich will still be running things. The only difference will be that ALL OF THE PEASANTS ARE POOR AND SUFFER EQUALLY. Except those at the top of course.

It's called Socialism my friends, AND THAT IS THE END GAME.

[Scootertrash]

......yawn

Thanks for acknowledging that I'm right.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Right about what? I don't even read your posts if they have more than one or two lines and haven't for a long time.

Admitted trolling :Bounce:postwhore

[sledcrazyinCT]

Come on Glamy Camel Jockeys can hop in the cockpit and fly it better then a retired Air Force pilot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxKU2B0ZjY

[3 Wheel Drive]

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[redsox]

In attempting to communicate with many of the members who have posted on 9/11, I do have to "dumb down" some of the things I'm trying to portray on here. As I said before, I have studied this subject quite a bit on and off over the years, so I should know a thing or two about it. I have always had a knack for science and physics, and as of late math has really been more of a strong suit for me than it used to be. At times I don't even understand how my mind is comprehending the things that it is, and in those circumstances it can be difficult for me to explain to someone else something that I don't fully understand myself. My mind sometimes understands things that seem beyond my conscious level of understanding, but it does understand, then I can kind of understand things by feel and in turn, learn. I have learned a lot on this subject and present the best material I can find for you all to see here. Not because I want to get into an argument, not because I want you to join my religion, and not for anyone's entertainment, but because I care. I understand the need for elaboration but the honest truth is I feel like our gap in knowledge is a huge communication barrier. Insulted yet? That would be your ego, because if you have a problem with me being smarter than you that's your problem, not mine. You're better looking than me, you're more successful, you're stronger than me, and you've got way more friends on the Bookface. Guess how much of that bothers me? So take your offense and shove it, this trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro is too important for feelings and egos. I'm not exaggerating when I say that most of the material presented to me challenging my beliefs and ideals in regards to 9/11 were elementary school level. Beginner bullshit. I have been studying this subject for long before my thread was ever started in 2012, and as I've repeated multiple times, I didn't start my foray into this subject as a skeptic in regards to the story given by our government. I started out thinking the idea that anything defying the original NIST report was absurd, just like you guys are saying now, and that was probably at least seven years ago. My drive in life, the thing I thirst for more than anything else, well it's actually love but right along side that is the truth. It is how I am wired, and if any of you know me you know that to be the case. I know where I have been and I know what I have seen. I know how science works and I know the laws of Newtonian physics, and I know what's possible and what is not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

[Scootertrash]

Right about what? I don't even read your posts if they have more than one or two lines and haven't for a long time.

I'm sure anything more than 2 syllables is a challenge for you also.

[redsox]

Man, that is a tough question. Each scenario offers a set of variables that could drastically change the number of people involved. For example, were the people on the flights alleged to have hit the buildings murdered, or did they never exist in the first place?

Were the grieving family members people who truly lost love ones or actors? Was everybody in the area of the pentagon that got hit ordered out of there, told to stay home for the day, or never meant to be there in the first place?

Was bin Laden a willing participant in this? Where the 19 men alleged to have participated in the flights real people paid to take the fall, or were they invented? What about Seal team six, did they even exist?

How many guys worked on setting demolitions in the towers that have not come forward to say that they did it? That would include engineers, chemical companies, the people who did the installations, the people who did the sheet rock and painting afterwords and the guards and security personnel who would have had to have let them in at night for months on end. Of course if we go with the concrete desintegrating ray gun theory the question is mute, but then all of those flashes of light as the building goes down have to be ignored or discredited.

I'd put the number of conspirators and co-conspirators willing or not at well over 500 and I think that's being very conservative. If that's true it also means that nobody told their wives or girlfriends anything and everybody was either murdered, or paid off not to speak a word all these years later.

Meanwhile Bill Clinton couldn't get a blowjob in the privacy of his own office without the whole world finding out about it, teaching us that two people can keep a secret if one of them can swallow.

Thanks for the answer Nico. So, the Mexinadian puts the members of the conspiracy conservatively at around 500? Nobody else wants to postulate a number? Ballpark it for me. Anyone? anyone? The questions will only get harder from here. I thought that with the access I have to the truly dazzling intellects present among this collection of scholars that I would have no trouble getting an answer. So, i'll ask again. Approximately how many people, living or dead, had knowledge of the conspiracy? Glamy? Fab? Dude? Dude? Dude?

[Shep1970]

Hey now, i dont trust the govt belive me... Wife and i have these conversations all the time. Im just more of a lurker/ listening/learning a few things along the way type guy.
I just want to live on the correct side when/if a revolution breaks out. And massachussetts aint it.

Shep

[redsox]

So is this the "end all argument" for you ?

Not an "end all," just a question. There would be a series of questions, if i could get even one answer. Answers in these threads are like 87 250r's. Everyone claims to have em', but i ain't never seen one. (I'll probably watch Wittenberg and Wood tonight.)

[RIDE-RED 250r]

So what Glamy, I can't sit back, take in everything that's posted and observe?? Be creeped out all you want, I'm sorry you are so easily creeped out but that's not my problem or fault.

And like I said in the other thread that got locked down, I have no issue conversing with people that may not agree with me. What I refuse to do is be insulted for it time and again as I try to be respectful of others when I take a dissenting position. It's called casting pearls before swine and I'm not in the habit of doing it. Fab thinks I am too easily scared off, no not really. It's what Damon has done time and time again without fail. It's wanna be shock-jock syndrome and I have no interest in subjecting myself to it.

Sorry if that explanation isn't good enough for you, I have more important things to do with my time. I'm heading back to the woods with my Winchester...see ya

[RIDE-RED 250r]

No offense taken Glamy.

Back in the woods :)

[Scootertrash]

I've said the same thing Ride Red said a couple of posts up multiple times.

Both you and Fabio say "Question everything". Unless of course it something one of you two posts up.

Lots of ego in Fabio's last post claiming no room for egos. Hypocritical bullshlt.

[fabiodriven]

I say question everything, but not the laws of physics. I cannot communicate with another human being on any level who can stack up their opinion vs the laws of physics. That person either has to get over themselves or they're just not very intelligent. Either way I have difficulties communicating with those people and it's not worth my time.

I am very humble Scooter. When I am right, I will stand my ground. When I have spent years researching a subject and I have facebook cheerleaders who don't even exist on the same plane as I posting BS links they found thirty seconds before to refute years of research and scientific testing, I am going to explain my position. Me explaining to you how well-versed I am in any particular subject is not bragging, it's the truth. In actuality, it is YOUR EGO, as well as Redsux, as well as others that causes you to get offended instead of opening your mind and learning something.

This is why I give up. I cannot communicate with you people.

Billy Corgan, a brilliant man, said it best when he said this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAXUqL--mY&t=3174s

YOU, Scooter, Redsux, others, are the masses of whom he is speaking. Do your best to ignore the man to the right of him and listen closely to what Billy is saying. I find it amazing when I hear from people who have come to the exact same life conclusions as I yet we've never once spoken to each other.

[redsox]

if i could get even one answer.

Still waiting. Cricket, cricket.


When I am right, I will stand my ground.


This is why I give up. I cannot communicate with you people.

Seems contradictory, but much of what you post is. Seems the only thing you are consistently sure of is that you're correct.


In actuality, it is YOUR EGO, as well as Redsux, as well as others that causes you to get offended

I'm offending Scooter?? How does that make any sense? The reason, John, that you can't "communicate" with some members here, is because you do not comprehend the difference between "lecture" and "discussion." There is an important fundamental difference in the meaning of the two terms. See if Damon will let you borrow his dictionary if you need further clarification. Maybe he'll swap you for your "Newtonian" Physics 101 Textbook.

[Scootertrash]

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e·go·tism
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noun
noun: egotism

the practice of talking and thinking about oneself excessively because of an undue sense of self-importance.

Egotism is the drive to maintain and enhance favorable views of oneself, and generally features an inflated opinion of one's personal features and importance. It often includes intellectual, physical, social and other overestimations.[1]

The egotist has an overwhelming sense of the centrality of the 'Me', that is to say of their personal qualities.[2] Egotism means placing oneself at the core of one's world with no concern for others, including those "loved" or considered as "close", in any other terms except those subjectively set by the egotist.

con·ceit
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noun
noun: conceit; plural noun: conceits

1.
excessive pride in oneself.

nar·cis·sism
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noun
noun: narcissism

extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.

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[fabiodriven]

scooter trash

noun - uncountable

a female who hangs around motorcyclists, typically for a ride and some action.

[El Camexican]

Still no time to watch videos and by no means my final response to those who will attack the opinions of others based on sketchy youtube videos, but the laws of physics are being touted as proof of a cover-up , so here are a few things to consider starting with an aspiring engineer's comments :

"This is a response to the discussions and comments by many suggesting that the planes at the WTC couldn't have brought the buildings down. I'm sorry for being so forward, but in my opinion this is a ridiculous discussion. I am a junior at an engineering-exclusive school studying materials engineering. I admit that I am not an "expert" on the subject. However, I do know enough to explain this situation. The actual maximum burning temperature of a Jet-A fuel (standard jet fuel type in U.S.) is 980 deg. Celsius. If you refer to the Iron-Iron Carbide phase diagram, the temperature at which steel changes from cementite and pearlite (strong phases of steel) to austenite (significantly less strong) is 702.5 deg. Celsius. Also, if a steel structure is exposed to a temperature just below or at the eutectic (702.5 deg.) for a period of time, (*spheroditeis) formed (very weak). All it would take is a few I-beams to lose their structural integrity before the "chain reaction" would start. I don't have a strong opinion on the conspiracy theory, but when people say that the heat from burning jet fuel cannot melt steel it bothers me. It doesn't have to "melt" for it to become ineffective. Also, "very strong type of steel" is the most relative statement ever. The steel used in sky scrapers is a standard carbon steel, not heavily alloyed. In any case, the iron-iron carbide phase diagram describes all carbon steels very accurately. Also, when the buildings actually collapsed, all that potential energy was released into heat and sound, which is true for all destructive reactions. So it is quite possible that after the buildings fell, the temperature of the rubble reached levels higher than any fire could produce."

Source: http://worldaerodata.com/forum/read.php?5,493

What else was in the building? I assume cleaning chemicals on every floor if not every office? What was the jet carrying for cargo? Plastic, wood, fiber, paint etc. found in an office won't burn hot enough to melt steel, but soaked with a fuel that will would certainly raise the temperature at which their flames reach.

Physics? The buildings fell "down". That's a property of gravity as taught in school, so which laws of physics were violated by fire weakening steel? I'm sorry if its covered in a video I can't see, so just give me one as it applies to the collapse of the two towers that were hit by jets so I can look at it.

Forget tower 7, that one still reeks of foul play to me. Forget insurance claims, which Bush worked there, foreign objects on the bottom of jets (that could have been placed inside) and all the other clutter, just tell me what caused the Twins to fall and be prepared to back it up with something more than a video.

[fabiodriven]

Here's the thing; I have never claimed to know what brought those buildings down. What I do know is the official story we've been given is false and does break the laws of physics. That much is proven. This is the focus of everything. That singular fact unravels everything, but it gets obscured with distractions. That alone is what I know.

[El Camexican]

Here's the thing; I have never claimed to know what brought those buildings down. What I do know is the official story we've been given is false and does break the laws of physics. That much is proven. This is the focus of everything. That singular fact unravels everything, but it gets obscured with distractions. That alone is what I know.


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Thank you for your honesty John. Now imagine a math teacher standing in front of a class of students and saying "I don't know the answer to the question I gave you on yesterdays test, but I know yours is wrong"

Maybe my perception of this tread and the one you closed (to the dismay of many) is misconstrued in that I thought this was where people could discuss opinion and discredit, or prove certain theories to each other, but instead it's turned into a sh*t show that has strained friendships and polarized people to beliefs they can't even prove, much like our in-house Born Again friend.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you and Glamy don't even seem to agree on what brought the buildings down, yet you band together to insist that anyone who thinks commercial jets did is wrong.

Speaking of Glamy, you quoted a post I meant to direct at him. Lets be clear, Glamy, the Internet personality operates at a different frequency that the rest of us. You've talked to him and you know darn well there's a flesh and blood guy in CA having fun playing the role of Glamy on the Internet and thinking we all take ourselves to seriously and also one that occasionally is a serious as cancer. When I respond to him I do it with a different tone that I would anyone else. Same goes for others, so don't take my Glamy, or Douche responses personally.

So if you want to have a big person discussion about this please carry on and I'll respond accordingly and hopefully some of the others that have been lurking, or beaten back to the sidelines for nothing more than expressing a different option will stick around and participate as well, but if its just going to be a show of intelligent questions being shot down by a teacher that doesn't have the answers I see no point to continuing the discussion at which point I would hope we could all agree to disagree and drop this topic.

[fabiodriven]

Oh I've provided plenty of answers. I'm all set but thank you. You'll all be fine, there's nothing to worry about.

[El Camexican]

Oh I've provided plenty of answers. I'm all set but thank you. You'll all be fine, there's nothing to worry about.

So class dismissed, everyone gets an F?

[El Camexican]

N-I-C-O.........where in SAM hell is the wreckage ? ..........look at the evidence .........at the time that the towers "fell" ........EVERYTHING .......steel , concrete , file cabinets every god damn thing !........TURNED TO DUST AND DISINTEGRATED BEFORE THE "CLOUD" HIT THE GROUND .........does anyone not see that ? .........where ....where is 30 or 40 stories worth of rubble ........if you look closely in the video`s you can watch big pieces DISAPPEAR before your very eye`s

I can't watch the videos yet. Standby.

[Scootertrash]

scooter trash

noun - uncountable

a female who hangs around motorcyclists, typically for a ride and some action.

Smells like desperation

Typical response. Cherry picked dialogue just like all of your "experts"

scooter trash
The term "scooter trash" generally refers to motorcyclists who are not organized into a more formal group.

Once again you've proved you don't know shlt. My screen name and it's true definition have been around long before you. Scooter tramp is a female who hangs around bikers for "a ride and some action"

[fabiodriven]

I know, you're exactly right. The jig is up. I've spent all this time deploying to other countries and researching why our planet is the way it is and then trying to inform others because I like to argue and have disagreements with people. That is my pompous, selfish goal, and you've unraveled the entire scheme and shown me for what I truly am. It all happened just as you've been told and I know nothing. No need to bring up my name any further in this discussion.

[Scootertrash]

Still no time to watch videos and by no means my final response to those who will attack the opinions of others based on sketchy youtube videos, but the laws of physics are being touted as proof of a cover-up , so here are a few things to consider starting with an aspiring engineer's comments :

"This is a response to the discussions and comments by many suggesting that the planes at the WTC couldn't have brought the buildings down. I'm sorry for being so forward, but in my opinion this is a ridiculous discussion. I am a junior at an engineering-exclusive school studying materials engineering. I admit that I am not an "expert" on the subject. However, I do know enough to explain this situation. The actual maximum burning temperature of a Jet-A fuel (standard jet fuel type in U.S.) is 980 deg. Celsius. If you refer to the Iron-Iron Carbide phase diagram, the temperature at which steel changes from cementite and pearlite (strong phases of steel) to austenite (significantly less strong) is 702.5 deg. Celsius. Also, if a steel structure is exposed to a temperature just below or at the eutectic (702.5 deg.) for a period of time, (*spheroditeis) formed (very weak). All it would take is a few I-beams to lose their structural integrity before the "chain reaction" would start. I don't have a strong opinion on the conspiracy theory, but when people say that the heat from burning jet fuel cannot melt steel it bothers me. It doesn't have to "melt" for it to become ineffective. Also, "very strong type of steel" is the most relative statement ever. The steel used in sky scrapers is a standard carbon steel, not heavily alloyed. In any case, the iron-iron carbide phase diagram describes all carbon steels very accurately. Also, when the buildings actually collapsed, all that potential energy was released into heat and sound, which is true for all destructive reactions. So it is quite possible that after the buildings fell, the temperature of the rubble reached levels higher than any fire could produce."

Source: http://worldaerodata.com/forum/read.php?5,493

What else was in the building? I assume cleaning chemicals on every floor if not every office? What was the jet carrying for cargo? Plastic, wood, fiber, paint etc. found in an office won't burn hot enough to melt steel, but soaked with a fuel that will would certainly raise the temperature at which their flames reach.

Physics? The buildings fell "down". That's a property of gravity as taught in school, so which laws of physics were violated by fire weakening steel? I'm sorry if its covered in a video I can't see, so just give me one as it applies to the collapse of the two towers that were hit by jets so I can look at it.

Forget tower 7, that one still reeks of foul play to me. Forget insurance claims, which Bush worked there, foreign objects on the bottom of jets (that could have been placed inside) and all the other clutter, just tell me what caused the Twins to fall and be prepared to back it up with something more than a video.

None of this is dissing you El, great post!

Anybody who's done any kind of metal work with a torch knows you don't have to MELT steel for it to deform. I knew that before I was ten. But you can't convince the geniuses of that.

Like I said, great post El!! Can't argue with science and facts. Or so we are told. :rolleyes:

Now I have a question:

What temperature do the chemicals carried on those planes to make the chemtrails burn at?

[El Camexican]

Glamy - Didn't they build a ship with the steel? If it was contaminated with thermite or molecularly damaged by a "ray gun" (sorry, that one stay till I see the videos:D) how could it have been used? Someone would have had to have loaded and driven those trucks to a smelting factory. More conspirators? What do you know? Are credible people with paystubs to prove they were onsite claiming they cleaned it all up with dust pans and brooms?

Take 5 minutes to read this: https://www.livescience.com/16179-twin-tower-collapse-model-squash-9-11-conspiracies.html

Phones calls from the air? Holy carp! Never thought about that. I know you can't call from up high. As a responsible frequent flyer I would NEVER try to get a signal in flight, but lots of people who I've sat next to have tried and can't do it. I fly in 9 hours, maybe someone next to me will try to make a call today? If they do I'll let you know ;)

Hey, anyone know what kind of batteries the jets used and what temperature they burn at? Was there any magnesium on the jets?

[Scootertrash]

Occam's Razor. Anybody else here heard of this?

The theory has been around forever, and it usually proves true.

[Shep1970]

Personally i think 99% of people want to forgive and forget what happened that day, even if the truth about it was hard to take, most people will take the easiest route to get past it. If say thermite was proven to be used/ many wouldn't care because it may disrupt their everyday life if there higher ups (govt) were lying to them.

I'm not a big football/baseball fan, i dont watch it on tv theres better things to with my time.
Everyone remember when the new england patriots cheated? Deflategate? How quickly that got shoved under the rug-
Patriots fans dont even want to hear about it even though deep down they know the truth.

So what i guess what i'm getting at is even if everyone knew the truths about that day 9/11 it may not change much in the big picture.
Hope that came out right,

Shep

[fabiodriven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoEHt8HbQ8

Fantastic Damon. Thank you very much for sharing that.

[Scootertrash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw

Has this video been viewed by everyone on this thread?

Slam youtube all you want but its just an easily shareable media that contains a wealth of accredited information from professionals. Watch that video.

Some of the original engineers for the wtc towers are sitting there telling you that what has been reported is 100% impossible.

And while you're there check out some of Richard Bruce's other accredited information videos:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY71q12u4OIUJGOg5MAlttQ/videos

Here is a snippet or two from his website;

http://www.freeourworld.org/donate-page.html


The secrecy has to stop, and apparently no one is willing or able to come forward, neither alien nor human, and tell the general population what is going on, but the evil Satan led world government is keeping everything secret from us so they can go on with their wicked usage of humans as slaves, food, and rape dolls, and when they have enough power, get rid of the majority of us and rule in their true form: hideous reptilians and insectoids and other beasts!



I encourage everyone interested in the real truth, get the protection of Christ and start uploading, meeting, passing out flyers, everything we can to get the truth and the conversation out and often! The REAL David Icke was absolutely right about one thing: while we live our daily lives there are children and others being horribly tortured and eaten alive, because these reptilians crave live human meat.


You can donate to The Richard Bruce Truth Ministries thru paypal at the link I posted above. Please be generous with your donation. Lives hang in the balance.

[fabiodriven]

I'm confused. Maybe I missed something but what does this Richard Bruce have to do with the video Damon shared?

[fabiodriven]

I think you'r right Damon, I think we are done here.

Speaking as a third generation veteran, I am absolutely disgusted with my fellow Americans. My grandfather was a waist gunner on a B-17 in WWII, and he was shot down over enemy lines. He made it back to safety and lived until just this past year. My father served in the air force during the Vietnam conflict and deployed to Thailand. He worked on the SR-71 when it was top secret. My twin sister and I joined the army just out of high school, me reserves and she went full time. She's still serving to this day.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it sickens me to have served you people. Dan and Scooter in particular. It is disgusting the way you two operate. These issues that we discuss are sometimes suppressed, spun, or made to seem something that they are not in order to confuse and propagate BS stories we've been told. Our government and the media are a huge part of the problem here the way they spin the truth. Dan and Scooter, the two of you disgust me on the deepest of levels. The people of our government, like Dan, do this for a living. It is your choice to spit in the face of the American people and even those such as myself who have put their lives on the line. Dan gets paid to be a part of our government, to lie, so this should have been expected I suppose.

At least Dan profits monetarily from turning his back on his people, and he's got a family to raise. The more disgusting of the two however, is trash. Trash is so hopefully, helplessly brainwashed that he is now posting things that make absolutely no sense and figuratively spitting in the face of a veteran and those who seek to create a better, more truthful reality for him and his family to come. I served you, the American people, because I wanted to stand up for what was right, and I took an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States of America. I did that for all of us, not for me, and I never stopped serving that oath. I never will either. "Against threats to this country, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC". This country's constitution does not maintain itself, it needs people to stand for it. I am not sure I can express how utterly shameful the actions of the members of this forum are. In case anyone did notice Scooter's post, he's posted some ridiculous video and link link to a site that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about, and he's comparing to a video made by people of this planet with true credentials and true good will, which in my book would make guys like Trash and Dan evil. Willing or unwilling doesn't matter to me, as we're giving you every reason to see what you really are here. That tells me you're either unable to grasp the reality of what you are, or you don't care what you are. What you are is wrong, un-American, and my enemy. It really says a lot trash, that you would post a video that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about to confuse or to insinuate we're making things up here. It says a lot about where you stand on all of this.

Dan, with your ridiculous irrelevant questions. If your disdain for the truth is by accident or on purpose, it is equally disappointing either way, and I have an answer for you now.


Thanks for the answer Nico. So, the Mexinadian puts the members of the conspiracy conservatively at around 500? Nobody else wants to postulate a number? Ballpark it for me. Anyone? anyone? The questions will only get harder from here. I thought that with the access I have to the truly dazzling intellects present among this collection of scholars that I would have no trouble getting an answer. So, i'll ask again. Approximately how many people, living or dead, had knowledge of the conspiracy? Glamy? Fab? Dude? Dude? Dude?

The answer to this question is a lot, and the way to see just how many there are and how this was gotten away with, the simple answer is to go into your bathroom and take a look in the mirror. That person you see, is a part of this. Trash is a part of this. The two of you are not the good guys, the two of you are promoting the lies that the American people have been told and that's fine really, because I give up. You act like you're sick of all these terrible things that happen, you want them to stop... No you don't. You want to laugh, and worse yet, discredit and ridicule those who have attempted to show you the truth of how this place really works. You turn your back on photographic and scientific evidence, you disparage my service, my honor, and my integrity. Dan and Trash, you two aim to make a mockery of a combat veteran who is aware of dangers that you are not, whose grit, honesty, and mettle have been proven with his life, and who has medals to back that up. With every fiber of good intention I can muster in an attempt to make my country and fellow citizens better, the two of you can knock it down with disgusting insults and spinster BS. You are a part of what is wrong with this country and make me hope it comes to war so I can show you just how serious I take this subject.

At one point Dan, I recall you asking "how" something like this could take place as we're showing you. How good American people could ever do something like this to their fellow citizens and sleep at night, how they could care so little as to never say anything. The answer to that is very simple Dan and Trash. All you have to do is look at yourselves. The people who committed these atrocities, just like you, simply do not give a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro, just like the two of you don't right now. This was all swept under the rug and brushed away, every time this is brought up I get "Can't you let this go?" The answer to that is, "Fvck no, fvck no I can't let this go." I took an oath which is being upheld as I type this. So that's how they can get away with this Dan, using people who just do not give a fvck about their fellow American citizens, just like you and Trash. It is people just like you who have done this to our planet and here you are continuing to uphold their work. You are my enemy, and it pains me to say right now I hope this comes to fighting. I so much want the truth and I want peace, but it is an uphill battle attempting to wake the American people, you are too far gone, and I simply must learn to stop caring because it is clearly a lost cause. I don't think this will come to fighting though because the people are too stupid, too far gone, deep in sleep. I will come right out and say, I do think many people are lacking so much in the intelligence department that they simply lack the brain capacity to wrap their minds around the truth even thought they know it could be true. They cannot let go of the farce they've built up in their minds that is supposedly this country. We can sit here and speak the truth, post truthful videos showing facts from people much more accredited than ourselves, and they'll all be shot down by spinster and trash, every time. And the dumb people want to believe you, they want it to be true. They want us to be the bad guys, the ones who are wrong, the ones who get laughed at, and you guys gladly facilitate that. There is absolutely nothing funny about this subject whatsoever, not at all.

I tried to portray my disgust for you people in the last long winded post I made, and I want to make myself clear here if that one didn't do it. As an honest, good person, as a veteran who has served you all, as a person who was your friend and who shares these things because I care so deeply for my fellow human being, I am absolutely disgusted with what you people are, especially you Trash. You are as good as those who have committed these acts as you serve to maintain the lies and work against everything I put my life on the line and worked for.

This whole subject is very conflicting and turned into something far more difficult than it has to be, as spinster sits there laughing at his keyboard. Imagine that, making jokes and entertaining himself after so many people have lost their lives and his own rights have been tarnished and taken away, and he sits there typing jokes to a United States combat veteran whose past is proven and documented. You people disgust me.

So I think you're right Damon. I think it's over Glamy. Let them do what they're doing and be what they're going to be. Personally I miss war from time to time, as conflicting as that may sound. For years I've preached of peace, there's no need of fighting, and I've come back from war a different person than I left here, but this has made things a little different for me. This has made me see that a huge amount of those I care for so deeply are not worthy of my caring, so we should stop caring. The government who would either allow this to happen to it's people or commit this act themselves has killed many, many times before, and they will do it again. If they'll allow that to happen to random people, it could be any of you next time, but you don't trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro care, so why should I? If the American people ever wake up and do something about this, I will be there fighting, and I don't care if you've figured things out by then or not, I will show you what war is about.

Let's let this go boys.

[fabiodriven]

And to those viewing this who are aware of what is going on and don't say anything, you're no help either. Good luck to you all.

[fabiodriven]

Oops...

https://youtu.be/x-jWUzhtTIY

[redsox]

I haven't had much time on here lately. I've been busy. But I caught up a little last night up to about post #90. I liked it, and i thought we we're in a good place. I thought about it a few times today and i was happy to be moving forward in the discussion with mutual respect. Clearer heads had prevailed, i thought. After seeing this recent derangement, I was obviously wrong. You can't handle this discussion John. You can't. I'm not gonna be mad at you for this, because i'm strong, and i'm a man of my word. I told you nothing you could say on here was going to change our friendship and i meant it. I know you're a good guy because of how i've seen you act. Remember, you were the one who closed your thread to distance yourself from the discussion. Multiple, multiple times on this thread you've announced your glorious exit. I ask you, how can we miss you if you won't go away?

[fabiodriven]

Very well said Dan. I'm trying to stop caring, I really am. As you can tell, I'd like to. Here are some other really really good words-


"If you tell a big enough lie and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -Albert Einstein

"A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of the truth." -Albert Einstein

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." -Malcom X

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddo Krishnamurti

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school and the person dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato

"The further society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Norwell

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." -Benjamin Franklin

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." -Thomas Jefferson

"Being considered crazy by those who are still victims of cultural conditioning is a compliment." -Jason Hairston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8#t=2.94777

[3 Wheel Drive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AbeALNVkk

[El Camexican]

Woke up at 1:30am with nothing better to do, so I watched this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoEHt8HbQ8

Interesting, but didn’t learn much.

The section about Rudy Giuliani served only to remind me that he was a failing politician on the morning of 911 who turned the tragedy into another few decades of political relevance. He saying they moved the emergency response center because the buildings were going to fall isn’t surprising and in my opinion was the smart thing to do when you’re next to a taller structure that’s been compromised.

That he said they knew they were going to fall isn’t a surprise either. I told my wife they were going to fall at least 30 minutes before the South Tower did, does that make me complicate? No, all it means is that I’ve worked on steel beam structures and was pretty sure the floor with the most heat wasn’t going to be able to hold the floors above it up for long if the fire didn’t go out.

I’ve also seen other footage of fire fighters saying they knew the guys entering those buildings weren’t coming out, so to have some now claim they should have been told the towers were going to fall is a contradiction. Regardless, it was their jobs to enter the buildings as long as there were civilians inside; it’s what they signed up for.

That Giuliani later changed his story isn’t surprise. Politicians lie so much they’re bound to slip up words at times.
Regarding the removal of the wreckage and the EPA statements I lump it all together. They couldn’t leave that site as it was for an extended period of time, it had to be cleaned up, period. The video also seemed to suggest the remains of the victims should have been better treated, how? Sift through the rubble for 20 years looking for teeth?

You heard the part about Christine Todd Whitman being untouchable legally. The government sets this up this way for good reason, just like they set up their laws to seal records for long enough that no one will care enough to do anything about it when the truth comes out.

Selling the scrap to the Chinese, why not? It would probably have to have been sorted and cleaned of any toxins before a US mill could take it, so it the Chinese were willing to take it as is for a lower price that was the way to go. Baosteel is owned by the Chines government, by the way, I didn’t hear that mentioned.

The EPA telling people everything was fine is no shock and if something like this happens again you can expect a repeat performance. Shutting NYC down, evacuating and telling people the truth about the risk of breathing that air would have cost the city billions.

A common misconception by people from Western cultures is that human life is valuable, it’s not. Based on what I’ve seen the value of a life in 90% of the world is under $100 bucks and let me assure you your government is well aware of that when making cost calculations and determining actions. They won’t tell it to your faces though.

Imagine what would happen if people stopped paying thousands of dollars a year for insurance and suing each other for injuries. How would the tax payers feel if they knew that for a fraction of what they pay annually their elected officials would sell them out? Do you think the military issues body armor because they care about the boots on the ground? Decisions on how to dress and equip a soldier are based on cost studies of injuries and palm greasing for contracts to supply. Been that way forever.

The bungling of air defense, avoiding inquiries and appointing puppets are classic examples of government incompetence and buck passing. Of course the administration wanted to defer and control the reports, it had eyes on a second term and any report that implied incompetence might have cost them reelection, but it doesn’t mean they were complicit in the attack.
The Israeli part was new to me, but them having spies in the US wasn’t a surprise and possibly knowing the attack was going to happen wouldn’t be a stretch. Look at what happened in Boston even after US intelligence was allegedly warned they had some bad actors in town by the Russians.

That Israeli might have known the attack was coming and didn’t notify the US wouldn’t be a surprise either. Besides the attack being a plus for Israel I doubt spy agencies do much high level information sharing as their intelligence gathering methods would have to be shared as well and that’s likely well guarded by each country.

The CIA guy that is interviewed on the street and says he knows a guy that cashed out the day before 911 that had inside info from the White House looks more like a joke than a confession. You can see that he breaks away from the camera and appears to start to laugh as the clip ends and we also don’t get to see the initial question that extracted his comment. Looked like he was rushed on the street and rather than get into a serious discussion he just have them a sound bit and walked away.

So in the end, it appears to be a well made video that demonstrates the ineptitude of the government and its willingness to trade the wellbeing of its citizens to protect its economy, but in doing so it tries to imply there was a much darker side to the actions taken after the event than I believe there were.

Is this what all the anger is about? The government lying? Old news my friends, but if it bothers you so much that you will insult friends and members on this site over it I have to ask what are your doing about it? Please tell me it's more than just posting on a three wheeler site for a few dozen readers. Are writing to your representatives? Do you vote? Are you asking people to sign petitions to reopen the investigation? I hope you are as this is obviously a major focal point in your lives.

Inaction is no different than the indifference you despise in others, so lets hear it Glamy, Fabs, 007, Douche, what are you guys doing to fix what consumes you besides watching and posting videos?

[sledcrazyinCT]

He wouldn't dare attempt. That's all he's got fabs. I think maybe we're done here.

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[redsox]

"If you tell a big enough lie and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister

Actually, this was Friedrich Nietzsche, who's teachings Goebbels and Hitler both adored.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -Albert Einstein

Yet you will not allow us to ask any questions. We get no responses to thoughts and ideas. We have two choices, join the religion of conspiracy, or get nailed to the cross.

"A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of the truth." -Albert Einstein

Like the authority held by your team of 10,000 architects and a math teacher?

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." -Malcom X

I don't care for newspapers or Malcom X.

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddo Krishnamurti


"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

My favorite of all time. A very, very wise man. What was his real name? He enjoyed satire. I'm shocked you'd support someone who didn't take things more seriously.

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught falsehoods in school and the person dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato

"The further society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Norwell

Exactly. All the hate is spewing from one side of this argument.

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." -Benjamin Franklin

All I have been doing is asking questions.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." -Thomas Jefferson

Again agreed. I hate the Government.

"Being considered crazy by those who are still victims of cultural conditioning is a compliment." -Jason Hairston

Never heard of him.

I haven't been getting a great deal of sleep lately, and that pattern is likely to continue. I did sleep good last night though. And, with a clear head this morning, i'd like the opportunity to revise and retract my previous comments. I don't want you to go away John. This is your thing. Your fantasy. Its not hurting anyone. You've been on this forum longer than I have and you have your cult following. You have the right to think whatever you like, no matter how absurd. Its my fault for intruding upon it, and I won't anymore.

[El Camexican]

The problem is not that he said they were going to fall. The problem is that he later denied ever saying it. There's a reason for that.

Your ENTIRE post is rhetorical.

He was caught flat footed with the question. If I do my homework and ask you a question about something you posted two years ago you'd probably have trouble recalling it as well. In fact I doubt you'd recall which user name you posted it under.

Trump denies things he's said hours after he's been recorded saying them. Doesn't seem to bother his supporters, so why get worked up over Rudy's flip flop? Besides, do you really think that if this was an inside job the people behind it would have included a failing mayor in their evil plan? Or did the Israelis call and tip him off :lol:

[El Camexican]

Inaction is no different than the indifference you despise in others, so lets hear it Glamy, Fabs, 007, Douche, what are you guys doing to fix what consumes you besides watching and posting videos?

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[El Camexican]

Are ya mad tho bra !

Nah, more amused with the lack of an answer from our local Rebel without a clue and can't post without 10 characters. He must be busy straightening out rusted nails.

FYI, guy next to me had no cell signal over LA until under 2,000ft. Same with Houston and MTY.

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[El Camexican]

Which of the people here defending the official story would NOT have allowed a plane they are riding on be overtaken by men with box cutters?

Maybe they couldn't do anything because the seatbelt sign was on?

[fabiodriven]

Dan, let's get something straight. You are not my friend.

Nico, oh Nico. You understand so, so little. All of my life's energy is focused on doing the right thing, and my life has undergone very serious changes in the last year. I have, can, and will continue to move in the right direction and I have, can, and will "do something" about this. Your focus is obscured just like so many others with your obsession about details that don't matter, questions that don't need to be answered right now, and intentional distractions. As Damon said, your entire post is rhetorical and I find it to be ridiculous.

"Write to my senator?" Are you serious with that Nico? That's stupid. You want me to write to the government who has either committed or covered this up? Voting? Our votes do not matter Nico, our "elections" are a farce, the illusions of choice. It doesn't matter. Many times in the material provided there have been given tons and tons of answers, and we've answered your questions ourselves, but there is no getting through to you. You guys are brainwashed. For the record, I did write to someone two nights ago if you're so concerned with what I'm doing. Not a member of the government though.

Nico your obsessions over Damon are childish and I don't think you realize how that's making you look. I'm not asking you to stop, do what you want. Damon has asked for every bit of it, but I never thought you'd stoop to the levels of immaturity you have.

Once again, someone is making jokes here Nico. I will tell you if I could right now I would shove those jokes so far up your ass you would taste them. You mock us, make fun of us, make jokes... I thought I made myself clear. I put my life on the line and went to war for this and, forget about me, there are millions of other people world wide who have been killed or affected by this. If you were an American citizen making jokes about this we would have a problem. You are not an American citizen which for some reason is irking me even further. This is not fvcking funny, in any manner, shape, or form.

From the beginning of this thread as well as the others, you have been provided with answer, after answer, after answer, and your strong glossing over your eyes will not allow you to see the truth, and your ego will not allow you to align yourself with people such as us. I'm good enough to put a roof over your head, but not to take seriously or respect for what I know. Glamy's just some pot-head, Bill must be nuts as well, and we already know you don't like Damon. You're waaayyy better than us, aren't you Nico?

If you ignore the laws of physics, that's your choice. If you don't have the intelligence to understand them, your attempts at bringing those who do down to your level will fail every time, because we already know what we've seen.

You can stop your "Well what are you gonna do?" charade, because I have done, and continue to do, a lot. Don't worry about what we're doing, worry about yourself. We're doing something right here, right now, and you are on the wrong team.

Red Rider, paging Red Rider

[El Camexican]

Not that you believe me, but as stated earlier I stopped believing the official story over a year ago and never again will, but when you and others are ready to stone anyone who doubts your beliefs as I once did that’s BS I'm happy to stand against it. All I’ve been trying to do is show you how there are plenty of reasons people find it hard to come over to your side of this story as I‘ve been there, but instead of commenting on specifics you’re tossing more rocks. The Devil is in the details my friend, don’t be scared to look at them if you really seek the truth on a subject and yes that saying applies to me as well.

If you want to go off on me again have at it if it makes you feel better, no hard feelings here, just please don’t pull that “Merican” cr*p on me. Aside from people of many nations dying on 9/11 I live in a country heavily influenced by American Imperialism and have no misconceptions about its ability to do bad as well as good. I just happen to think American as a whole has spread more good than harm to the World. America is an ideal as much as it is a nation and it really makes me sad that you would let this stain on its history consume the rest of your young life.

I've posted my cellular reception findings, but I'm done with trying to get you to understand how counterproductive your methods of sharing your beliefs are. Locking threads and burning bridges isn't going to teach anyone anything.

[briano]

I agree with Nico, I'm here in the states. Come shove the jokes up my arse, I'll wait for you. I totally agree that Fabs is a one sided story and that's the way it will always be. Some stoners are very open to view the thoughts of others, some are not. All of the video posting and physics crap has gone to someone's head.

[fabiodriven]

Not that you believe me, but as stated earlier I stopped believing the official story over a year ago and never again will, but when you and others are ready to stone anyone who doubts your beliefs as I once did that’s BS I'm happy to stand against it. All I’ve been trying to do is show you how there are plenty of reasons people find it hard to come over to your side of this story as I‘ve been there, but instead of commenting on specifics you’re tossing more rocks. The Devil is in the details my friend, don’t be scared to look at them if you really seek the truth on a subject and yes that saying applies to me as well.

If you want to go off on me again have at it if it makes you feel better, no hard feelings here, just please don’t pull that “Merican” cr*p on me. Aside from people of many nations dying on 9/11 I live in a country heavily influenced by American Imperialism and have no misconceptions about its ability to do bad as well as good. I just happen to think American as a whole has spread more good than harm to the World. America is an ideal as much as it is a nation and it really makes me sad that you would let this stain on its history consume the rest of your young life.

I've posted my cellular reception findings, but I'm done with trying to get you to understand how counterproductive your methods of sharing your beliefs are. Locking threads and burning bridges isn't going to teach anyone anything.

Nico my friend, there is a lot being misconstrued here.

I know you realized the official story about 9/11 is not true, and I know when it happened. It is not myself and others looking to "stone anyone who doesn't see things our way", it is us getting extraordinarily frustrated when people, smart people such as yourself, can simply ignore the laws of physics when presented to you on a level that a child could understand. Trust your eyes, your brain, what you know, not what you've been told. The common denominator between so many of you is the absurd amount of distractions you are all muddled up with. You have so, so many questions, and they can all be answered, but your time line is all wrong.

Imagine Detective Nico has just arrived at a murder scene. The scene is taped off. You walk up to a couple of officers and other officials who have arrived before you, and you say "What color was the car this guy was driving? What's his mother's maiden name? What high school did he graduate from? Was this guy a lefty? Do you guys prefer steak or chicken? Has anyone ever been to Epcot Center? Skydiving is something I've wanted to do, but probably won't. Can the ambulance do a brake stand? Is this guy using fluorescent lighting? My next vacation is in June, when is yours? My first car was a Pinto, it blew up. What was yours? Do you think I'd have been better off with a Chevette? Well? Well? Well? Can I get some answers please?"

Slow down, calm down. We all know you're not stupid and yes, there are a lot of questions here. Every day I watch these videos and they are chock full of evidence and answers, and every single time I see multiple answers to the questions you ask, but I haven't taken note as to where these answers are. Perhaps I should start doing that and posting "For Nico- watch this video and go to 44 minutes and 30 seconds to see the answer you asked about."

In the other 9/11 thread, you brought up the subject of the "nose cone videos". I had seen those before years ago, but it had been years since I had originally. You were in an area where you weren't able to share YouTube videos, so I took the liberty of viewing the video you suggested, and then shared it for you because you couldn't. I gave my synopsis of the video, and to reiterate; I thought the idea of the video was very hard to swallow, however after having seen the evidence provided it was difficult to disagree with what they were showing us.

Now, this is a video that you, Nico, brought up, backed, and put the Nico stamp of approval on. I shared the video as I said, shared my opinion, and then after I shared my opinion, you shot down both my opinion as well as the very video that you touted and suggested. This irked me. It was as if I'd been set up. You suggested it, I watched it, I corroborated your view, and then you shot both myself and the video down. That was ridiculous. It was at that point I questioned your motives as to why you might say you believe what you believe. Believing what you believe in order to appease your wife, myself, or anyone other than yourself is not truly believing in something.

Also, there is no "halfway". You believe the towers didn't come down the way they say but there is no foul play, or at lease not to the degree that we suggest, or something along those lines. You can't have it both ways Nico. They either came down the way we've been told or there is serious bullshit afoot, cut and dry, that's it. I don't understand your concept of a middle ground here, there is no middle ground.

I thought you got it, and it seems you still do, but yet you refute so much of what seems so obvious to me, and it seem due to distractions and confusion. If you really want to learn, all the answers are there and very obvious, but you have to look past the distractions and do your research. We are here to suggest the places where the smart and accredited people convene and show the results of their experiments and theories. I am not sitting here in my laboratory performing experiments. I am not a physicist, but I can direct you to some who can explain things to you a lot better than I can.

As far not answering questions, we have, over, and over, and over, and it doesn't work. People are too blind, they would rather believe a story than their own eyes and perception. It makes it difficult to explain, and so many of your questions are very irrelevant once you learn more. You can have all your questions answered if you'd like to, but do your research and see what you find. I can guide you, the others here can as well, but it is up to you to learn if you want to.

I will say again, for the umpteenth time, I cannot communicate with people who do not understand, or refute, the laws of physics. I don't know why that would be difficult for anyone, I would never expect you or anyone else to try and do so. The idea is absurd. Do I have to also explain why birds are able to fly?

[fabiodriven]

I keep saying I'm going to stop. Maybe we should. Now Briano is all revved up and that's unfortunate. Every time I try to stop I end up having an issue with not caring anymore, because that's what I feel like I'm doing. Nico I know you're a good dude, Dan's a good dude, Briano's a good dude. Not so much Scooter though. Lol, just kidding Scooterino. I can respect Scooter for some reason, I have no idea why, but perhaps this has gone too far. The truth will come out eventually, with my help, as I will never give up on this.

Do not ask me to forget about this though, as that is EXACTLY what you're supposed to do, and I will never do that.

[fabiodriven]

I'll even do this; to Nico, Dan, Scooter, Briano, others, I apologize. I apologize for offending you if I have and Dan in particular, who I do know personally, I do consider you my friend. I take back what I said in regards to Dan and my friendship, if he's OK with that. Just last weekend on our ride Dan's name came up and nobody, including myself, had anything bad to say. The only thing I could say, even in light of all this, is "Dan is a good dude." Those were my exact words.

Many of us disagree very strongly and this, Nico, and us discussing this is one of the many "Well what are you going to do about this?" answers. I am going to make others aware, as well as many other things. Fighting is not going to help. If anyone would like to continue this by all means feel free, and in that case I may continue to post, but if it should end then it can.

[El Camexican]

Started watching videos today.

First this one. No surprises in it. It explains the nuts and bolts of the capitalist system in modern times. It sucks, but without it we’d still be living in caves. Sad but true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UbAgq3u6lQ

Then this one caught my eye. Very interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU

One of the best videos I’ve seen on the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3v4QUQpYjc

Then this one came up. The beginning is hooky the idea that all this would be planned out without taking the time to make the aircraft resemble commercial airliners is ridicules. The towers were constantly being photographed. There’s no way the alleged perpetrators would risk using jets that didnlt resemble the aircraft that we were told were used. The last half is good though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djKIlXz8WJs

Then sledcrazy’s. Interesting, but seeing as how I’m not a pilot I can’t speculate. I have always wondered how the Pentagon hit was so perfect. I’m old enough to have flown back in the day when pilots had to circle an airport a few times before landing. Even today the exact point of touchdown varies a lot with a gust of wind when you’re about to touchdown. Very fishy.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/169853-9-11/page5

Yes, even RedSox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0&app=desktop

Interesting, but Alex Jones is off the hook. I can’t take him seriously anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAXUqL--mY&t=3174s

So here is one of something that looks like the nose of the jet going all the way through the second tower. There are many other out there to see as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i73XmZUxnVo

Forget everything else for a moment and focus on this one question: How can something strong enough to go through the building and emerge intact into clear blue sky suddenly turn to dust? The earlier response that suggested that planes may not have even hit the towers is where we got sidways earlier, but if someone wants to suggest that these aircraft were specially built to be remotely flown into the buildings equipped with missiles and filled with steel melting chemicals I’ll bite, but to think that effort would have been made without even painting numbers and windows on the sides is harder to believe. It would also add another few hundred skilled people to the conspirators list.

And finally, this is one of my all-time favorites along with the perpetrators not being able to plant a single WMD in Iraq to be found and photographed. If the perps wanted to confuse the world as to what the heck happened they did a great job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ySaAP6Vm44


Glamy: Lear saying the motors don’t match, trips to the moon, devices that can turn concrete and steel to ruble. Post the videos, I’ll watch, but I’m done here for now. Life is short, this sheep is going back to join the flock and pay his taxes, got to keep the machine oiled.

[El Camexican]

Thats right..i want to split hairs about torque wrench values but i can`t be bothered with little sh!t like 911 !!!!!

Don't knock the passing of knowledge to the next generation, the rebel forces will require mechanics who understand the galactic principles of proper torque in zero gravity conditions and what better place to recruit them than this website.

[fabiodriven]

If in 1969 I were to say that the Gulf of Tonkin incident happened exactly the opposite as we'd been told, I'd be in the same argument we're having currently regarding 9/11. Yet as I type this today, the official explanation of the events that happened on August 2nd 1964 are exactly the opposite as reported originally. The United States has admitted their wrongdoing and lies in regards to that day which led to the Vietnam War and countless lost lives.

Yet today you cannot see that this system will lie to you on such a scale.

If you wanted a rather large building built, unless you happen to be an engineer yourself, you will be consulting an engineer. The engineer will be held accountable for the successful erection of said building and their engineering experience counted on far above your own opinion, even if the building will actually be your property. The more experienced the engineer is, the better for you. Would you tell the engineer their job and your opinion as opposed to listening to their experience and know how?

If you hired an experienced attorney, would you shut them up in court to share your opinion?

If you needed a truck driver to drive your truck and had zero experience personally, would you tell them how they should drive the truck?

Would you tell the electrician you hired to wire your addition that your opinion is going to overrule their adhering to code?

Would you tell the taxi driver in a foreign country that you're of the opinion they're taking you the wrong way?

Dr Judy Wood is one of a vast number of professionals who have more than just an opinion, they have thousands of years of collective experience in a very large number of fields having to do with these events. Dr Judy Wood's credentials speak for themselves, with a very long and decorated background in not only building engineering, but also in forensics. That's an outstanding background to have when investigation these events.

So if you have never in your life seeked out a professional in any trade in order to complete a project or to make sure something is done correctly, then your opinion vs these facts certainly will be relevant, to you.

If you fail to grasp the laws of physics or choose to refute them, if you do not use your eyes to see, if science and forensics "isn't your thing" when it comes to solving an atrocity, then I'm sure we may have a problem communicating with one another.

Dr Judy Wood-

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/bio/Wood_Bio.html

[fabiodriven]

Here's another one that's easily shut down if you have a very strong opinion.

https://youtu.be/WTKyyzxbBCI

[83ATC185]

damn glamy the first thing i saw when i got off the plane in denver was a painting of a soldier in a gas mask holding an AK and a sword cutting down kids. the next one down was people crying in a forest fire and if that aint a sign of bad trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro going on i dont know what is.

[83ATC185]

i'll have to watch it when i get home as my computer here doesnt have speakers..will report back when i watch it.

[fabiodriven]

That song, and many other songs, and many different facets of art in general have had a whole new meaning to me over the last few years. I was into System of a Down not long at all after they were introduced in America, and my group of friends was as well. We used to play their music all the time, but for years I sang along with lyrics I had no idea the true meaning of.

Over the last few years, System of a Down is something I don't listen to as much as I used to, however when I do hear them now I have a lot of respect for them because of the message they aim to convey.

I'm sure it might seem amusing to many how much my life is guided by music and artists, which is a fact about me that nobody knows because I've never openly shared it prior to this occasion. I'm not sure I could accurately depict the role these things play in my life. Just as amusing or odd as that might sound to some, I find it equally as bizarre that people allow their lives to be guided by much more "accepted" sources. Government, laws, rules, perception by others, religion, money, status...

I consider it a "no brainer" to follow something that I can feel so deeply and relate to on such intimate levels as opposed to things that make my head hurt.

[ironchop]

The Hutchison effect is a real mind blower !.........levitation of cars ..... and people were carried full city blocks ..........cars were toasted but trees and paper were not ........when the buildings disintegrated it was a warm breeze not hot !........WTF does that ?.........can you explain that ? .........the people shed their clothing because materials began to disintegrate .........nothing left to stand on inside the building.........just an incredible display of power ........can you imagine watching your colleagues at work disintegrate ? .......IDK maybe you hate your colleagues ????


The Hutchison effect is a real mind blower !.....?

Thanks for that tidbit. I just went and looked that up and since Im a Nikola Tesla junkie, I'll be up in that rabbit hole for awhile.






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[86T3]

I love it when an artist is able to slip a message into a hook so the sheep don't even baaaat an eye. One of the most inaccurately interpreted popular songs is "Handlebars" by Flobots. In fact the entire album "fight with tools" is political. He even goes so far in one song to say "gotta warn you I'm rooting for the other team in the culture war". Surprised they aren't dead yet.

" I can split the atom of a molecule, of a molecule, of a molecule."

Dunning–Kruger effect
Look it up. Baaaaa

[fabiodriven]

A real man would have been nice to Watson despite what the herd thought.

[El Camexican]

And I look forward to arm wrestling if you have the sack

LOLOLOLOLOLOLMFAO!!!! Can I place a bet???

[El Camexican]

Money where your mouth is Nico please place a bet

Joe let's get this hyped and make some $$. You know you're soft dontcha, feel the voids in the tissue on your bicep then remember it's the soft shoulders that let ya down

Sure, what are the odds on you ever getting to TF?

[El Camexican]

Obsess much?

[El Camexican]

Y'all got wives lol I'm still a predator don't even fvckng try

Does the lack of a wife imply your hand gets a more vigorous workout that most?

[El Camexican]

He called me stupid. I'm asking him to arm wrestle me. Pretty standard really.

Whether or not he wants to is entirely up to him, but I’ll put a Benjamin on him if he takes you up.

[El Camexican]

The traffic on this thread is funny, you're all a bunch of pussies can't even comment.

Guess you’re a hard act to follow.

There was a discussion about sugar on here the other day, how much have you had today? Or was it something harder?

[El Camexican]

I remember when I had my first beer...

Steve Martin

[tripledog]

I pity the fool that argues with a Pepper Jacker.

[fabiodriven]

That's a very strong word.

[86T3]

Dude, sometimes you just have to cut your losses and bow out. Idk man, id you want to arm wrestle I guess I'll abide, but i don't really get it. If I win it doesn't make me right, and if you win it doesn't make you right. Nico would be the only real winner. Lol

[Scootertrash]

Does the lack of a wife imply your hand gets a more vigorous workout that most?


Lol more than likely since I did about 400 reps today

That would take all day at 2 strokes at a time. Keep doing that and you'll end up with penis elbow.

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[El Camexican]

Life is a lot like Pro Wrestling .........posturing for your enjoyment or entertainment .........and i want all the little hulksters to know...........it`s BALLSH!T .........this is why i`m not much of a people person . OK ........John Facking Lear does not know WHY .......the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) has allowed him to be alive ........now here`s a man that had an impressive career and high military clearance ........and if you hear what he spew`s it`s un facking real -- literally .........HOLLOGRAMS hit the towers on 911 . ........he says real jets would have bounced off the buildings instead of disappearing into them . .......Holograms .......area 51 shielded by holograms ........and a WHOLE LOT MORE KIDS . So if you have some time on your hands (yeah right huh) check out John Lear .........holy sheet .......eh .......and have a good day .......EH !! ........Hoser ........and a beeeeeeer in a tree !

Seriously, post some Lear links please. I Googled him after your first recommendation and nothing about any of what you’re mentioning comes up.

[3 Wheel Drive]

The Governator be like.....Come with me if you want to live.......

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Momma knows:

https://youtu.be/pXD12XrttmQ

[sledcrazyinCT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7HL8DymfSo


Typical govt logic resulted in a huge waste of tax dollars......this 25 year old structure was razed using 4500 lbs of dynamite. First detonations were to take out the steel ring that attached the base of the dome to the stadium.

No idea why a venue only 25 years old would be leveled, considering it hosted Summer Olympics and two Super bowls:crazy:


Reason I posted this video is to compare how a planned detonation looks to some of the video posted on these 9/11 threads

[3 Wheel Drive]

The Seattle Kingdome was not very old and was imploded, the residence voted against it.... but the city did it anyways. The old concrete was recycled and used to rebuild the new Seahawks Stadium.

https://youtu.be/oiftDBtCFt8

[El Camexican]

Why didn’t they plant any WMD’s in Iraq Glamy? Why leave out the one thing that might have justified the war when you had the ability to do all those other covert things in front of thousands if not millions of people on American soil?

[El Camexican]

Because they needed Elcamexican to drum up propaganda supporting there lame excuse for the crimes they committed .........because your a wild and crazy guy !!!!!........FOXES ! ..........post some pic`s of your .......BULGES!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! Those guys really did think of everything.

Speaking of bulges did you hear the one about the young kid who was having trouble striking up conversations with girls on the beach? Every time he would approach one he’d get nervous and start to stutter and they would start laughing at him to the point that he would just turn and walk away as they giggled.

One day he told his uncle about this and the uncle told him all he needed to do was stick a potato into his bathing suit and then when he approach the girls and started talking they would be nice to him.

The kid thanked his uncle and the following weekend shoved a potato into his bathing suit and went to the beach. When he came home that evening he ran into his uncle and the uncle asked how the potato trick worked. The young man replied it was terrible, not only did they act the same way as they did before when I approach them, but when I turned around to walk away and they saw the potato bulge they laughed hysterically.

[Scootertrash]

El, you should avoid engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.........

[El Camexican]

Glamy, why didn’t they use the discombobulating ray gun to bring down the Silverdome?

[El Camexican]

Why do you keep refuting what you can see with you`re own eyes ?

What I see is a building that was damaged by falling debris from another building that apparently wasn't all turned to dust.

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The building has been available to the so called engineers that claim all the evidence of the Towers was hidden from them, so where is the scientific proof that this rubble and broken glass was modified at a molecular level?

I don't buy the Pentagon hit and I think the flight 93 was shot down as was reported on Mexican news that day, but this is a stretch that distracts for some of the more credible flaws in the official reports.

Get out to the dunes and enjoy your life Glamy. Unless you're planning to run for President so you can reopen the investigation this is someone else's problem and it will end up being nothing more than a bunch of books and movies like the JFK story.

[fabiodriven]

Don't try to tell people not to care just because you don't Nico, please my friend.

[El Camexican]

Don't try to tell people not to care just because you don't Nico, please my friend.

I'm not suggesting people don't care John. I'm suggesting that they don't obsess to the point that it consumes their lives.

[fabiodriven]

Change many times requires sacrifice. The first step is to invest energy and intent.

[El Camexican]

Change many times requires sacrifice. The first step is to invest energy and intent.

Very true and as I've asked before, what is it that you feel you can do about this and what are you doing about it? Is there a group of people getting a petition signed to have the investigation reopened that you've signed? Are there protestants being organized to demand further investigation that you've attended? Have lawsuits been filed seeking damages from someone outer than the Saudis that you're helping with? Are you gathering up fellow soldiers who feel they were duped into fighting under a false flag and filing a lawsuit?

I'm not being an azz here, that's what it will take to start a real movement and anyone who thinks someone else will do it simply because it needs to happen, or that it's too big a thing to take on is not helping anything. I'm willing to sit back look you in the eye and say I'm not that guy. I like fossil fuels, paper money and paved roads and until I see a direct threat to my family on the doorstep I'm in the same flock of sheep as everyone else, but if you're willing to forgo these things for a cause have at it, just keep it non-violent. You'll have my respect all day long because I'll know your moving forward with what maters to YOU in this life.

I say with the utmost respect for your beliefs and convictions as well as our friendship, I sincerely hope you're doing more than just watching videos, reading books and posting on here if this is something you feel requires some form of advancement or closure in order to be at peace with the remainder of your life.

Peace out bro :beer

[fabiodriven]

Don't worry about what I'm doing my friend. There's a lot that has already been explained to you that you did not understand but you continue to ask the same questions. You didn't understand the answers the first time and they haven't changed.

I don't know why your mind is going to violence again. Well, I actually do know why, but please refrain from associating me with your thoughts on that subject.

If you decide in your mind that you are about ready for lunch, it is that idea which sets your legs in motion to carry you to the fridge, your arm to reach out for the sangwich, and your jaw to chew the food. The idea always comes first, and without that idea, lunch never exists. Enough people directing enough energy in the same direction has a physical affect on our reality, whether the energy directed be mental, from meditation for example, or physically acted out, yet still due to an idea. If you're curious what effects mental energy focused has, you should research mass meditations and see what human beings are capable of.

You cannot kill an idea Nico, not with all the guns in this country or on this planet. Attempting to quell someone else's ideals in their own head is an attempt at early intervention of an outcome which you may not prefer, however it is a reaction to a problem that in my belief you are unaware.

[fabiodriven]

It does not have to be physical action.

[fabiodriven]

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[El Camexican]

Don't worry about what I'm doing my friend. There's a lot that has already been explained to you that you did not understand but you continue to ask the same questions. You didn't understand the answers the first time and they haven't changed.

I guess l should apologize and accept that my limited IQ and lack of an engineering degree prohibits me from grasping all that has been presented to me.

I’m still stuck on trying to figure out how multiple people can agree they are all right when some think bombs were delivered on remotely flown jets, some think steel burning chemicals and explosives were placed in the buildings and others think some sort of ray gun turned steel and concrete to dust. It’s in ready hard for me to keep up with it all, but if there’s a video someone can post that ties it all together I’ll watch that one too.

Violence? I just threw that in as a disclaimer in case someone reading this decides to snap and start shooting in to a crowd someday. Let me clarify that again, I don’t believe in violent revolution.

[fabiodriven]

Apology accepted, thank you.

I don't appreciate your intent to direct this discussion in a negative direction Nico. I've never even insinuated you have a low IQ. This is why I removed myself from this discussion previously.

I don't care what degrees you have, that doesn't mean you automatically understand everything there is to know. There is no shame in not knowing anything. I never claimed I know everything. I'm not taking responsibility if you're offended for some reason. I'm being as positive as I can right now, which is uncommonly high at the moment.

[El Camexican]

Then how about we try this: You believe what you want to believe and talk about it in anyway you see fit and I’ll believe what I want to believe and do the same.

Some people would call that agreeing to disagree. Just seems sad to me that someone like yourself with such seemingly strong convictions can’t seem to express themselves about it beyond putting up a video link.

I will remind you that you're the one who responded to my post earlier today not the other way around. Just imagine how it would look if I posted behind yours telling you that just because you care doesn’t mean you should ask other people to care. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion here in the open form that includes you and me.

[fabiodriven]

I don't feel anything I've posted today warrants you to attempt to down talk me. I've expressed myself thoroughly in the past and there are many things that certain people, not just you, are not able to understand. I am well aware of that.

You're not going to try and tell me that I need to be more conscious of other people's beliefs as I posted in response to you trying to tell someone else what they should do. I've never told you what you should do outside of switching to Honda.

[El Camexican]

I've never told you what you should do outside of switching to Honda.

Please don’t interpret disagreement with disrespect.

Honda? I did! 2016CR, pos needed a news trans at 5,000 miles, still ain’t right!

[El Camexican]

Well i was soooooo worried about 911 .........that i went swimming at da kids house while we watched Shartger game on tv ..........dranked 10 off da keg ...........pig ribbs off da Q ..........and didn`t even have to break out the AK ........it was a very good day .........laid back .......I still want a country that don`t lie ........i demand better .........first world better Nico !!

I’m glad to hear you spent a nice relaxing normal day, but I’m a little surprised that you didn’t tell me to go suck my own wiener. I guess you already suspected I’d tried and came up short.

[Scootertrash]

:wondering

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[Scootertrash]

So look at all the butcher shop sh!t on this thread.............BKM and glamy in a steel cage match .........loser gets to shave the others balls ........what saith yee ?????


I'm guessing one of you will win by a hair.............

[Scootertrash]

We'll also have to change one of youse guys name to Nad. For a race such as this we need to have appropriate cheering. ;)

[El Camexican]

911 is so 2001.

Get with the times and go protest loosing an election fair and square, or locking kids up and feeding, clothing and educating them 1000 X better than they ever were before their parents committed a CRIME.

Hey, in Cali, if you go to jail for B&E do your kids get to come with you?

The Sun is making me hot, please sign a paper in Paris and make it go away.

Today Mexico becomes Venezuela, but nobody gives a sh*t because the World Cup is on.

Happy Canada Day :Bounce

[Scootertrash]

What's today? Did Obrador get elected?

[Scootertrash]

We'll also have to change one of youse guys name to Nad. For a race such as this we need to have appropriate cheering. ;)

I'm still waiting on that steel cage match. With a cage made of Chinese steel. Go Nad! Go Nad!

[Scootertrash]

911 is so 2001.

Get with the times and go protest loosing an election fair and square, or locking kids up and feeding, clothing and educating them 1000 X better than they ever were before their parents committed a CRIME.

Hey, in Cali, if you go to jail for B&E do your kids get to come with you?

The Sun is making me hot, please sign a paper in Paris and make it go away.

Today Mexico becomes Venezuela, but nobody gives a sh*t because the World Cup is on.

Happy Canada Day :Bounce


Let's not forget making sure that they're not with child sex trade traffickers.

[El Camexican]

What's today? Did Obrador get elected?

Not yet, , they vote today. Anaya is in second place in the polls, but the dead people always vote for PRI, so Amlo will win.

Look at the names on ballot closely . What a mess. If anyone ticks off more than one box it’s trash. Should work out well given our public education system.

Oh well, if it goes the sh*t we’ll all storm the border and become undocumented immigrants and vote for Bernie because it’s our right and American socialists are totally better than other socialists.

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[ironchop]

911 is so 2001.

Get with the times and go protest loosing an election fair and square, or locking kids up and feeding, clothing and educating them 1000 X better than they ever were before their parents committed a CRIME.

Hey, in Cali, if you go to jail for B&E do your kids get to come with you?

The Sun is making me hot, please sign a paper in Paris and make it go away.

Today Mexico becomes Venezuela, but nobody gives a sh*t because the World Cup is on.

Happy Canada Day :Bounce

LMFAO

"I drug my child/sent my child with strangers across a few thousand miles of unforgiving and inbelievably hot desert terrain, sleeping in the open, drinking mud water, to cross at a secret and illegal location......"

"How DARE Trump continue with the practices of Border Patrol set forth three administrations ago and separate these children from their caring and responsible model parents!"

(Insert sissyassed fake outrage emoticons here)

And you know papers and promises from ethical politicians are the best way to combat the Earth's natural climate cycles

Did you guys vote in a Socialist POS down there?. ..Maybe now the Central Americans will stop in Mexico and stay put without continuing on to this unfair and capitalist American sheethole to try and eek out an unfair wage amongst an overwhelming, violent, and hostile population of angry white and priveledge people?

Pray tell!!

These four are plotting something...they're white so probably it's about oppressing vatos and bruthas and da joos because when you get more than one white person in the room, they're Nazis.


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[El Camexican]

.......who`s the next one for Carmella ?

You lost me there man :wondering:

[ironchop]

That`ll be some good arse - wipe there !.............who`s the next one for Carmella ?

Ok explain that pic.

Am I understanding correctly ...that all those people on that ballot were each running for president of Mexico?

I'm surprised that:

1) Mexican voters are even allowed to have more than two parties in the government?(unless you promise to call yourself 'Independent') ...unlike America?

2) So Mexico let's #1 happen without huge steaming pile of media mockery and attempting to banish any new parties or ideas by making them appear irrelevant and then passing legislation to eliminate competition like America does?

3) Does Mexican media stage huge propaganda to influence their elections or foment civil war when they don't get the desired results like here? ...Cuz that would be I infinitely harder for them to cheat than it is here, I would think.

4) I wonder if all those parties are all on the same side secretly (progressive left) like here in America and if, whether it's ten choices or two, do they all read from the same script like American leaders?

5) so multiple parties can push a single candidate as theirs? I see quite a few groups with the same candidate listed

Maybe, like here with the tea party, they just subvert or subjugate any new ideas or outsiders that make it past numbers 1-4 and get elected anyway.... Sucking them into the Borg Collective... resistance is futile and all that

Partido del Trabajo....I see Communists/Socialist are represented here in few different flavors. At least they're open about it.

I'm being a smurtazz in a way but seriously I'm wondering if you can tell me the truth


America would lose its mind if it had more than the same two worthless political parties







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[El Camexican]

Ok explain that pic.

Am I understanding correctly ...that all those people on that ballot were each running for president of Mexico?

I'm surprised that:

1) Mexican voters are even allowed to have more than two parties in the government?(unless you promise to call yourself 'Independent') ...unlike America?

2) So Mexico let's #1 happen without huge steaming pile of media mockery and attempting to banish any new parties or ideas by making them appear irrelevant and then passing legislation to eliminate competition like America does?

3) Does Mexican media stage huge propaganda to influence their elections or foment civil war when they don't get the desired results like here? ...Cuz that would be I infinitely harder for them to cheat than it is here, I would think.

4) I wonder if all those parties are all on the same side secretly (progressive left) like here in America and if, whether it's ten choices or two, do they all read from the same script like American leaders?

5) so multiple parties can push a single candidate as theirs? I see quite a few groups with the same candidate listed

Maybe, like here with the tea party, they just subvert or subjugate any new ideas or outsiders that make it past numbers 1-4 and get elected anyway.... Sucking them into the Borg Collective... resistance is futile and all that

Partido del Trabajo....I see Communists/Socialist are represented here in few different flavors. At least they're open about it.

I'm being a smurtazz in a way but seriously I'm wondering if you can tell me the truth


America would lose its mind if it had more than the same two worthless political parties







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This would be a lot easier to answer if I was on my PC, but I will try to be as coherent as possible using my phone.

Yes Mexico has multiple parties, for most of the past 80 or 90 years the PRI has been the dominant party. They likely won the elections legitimately for the first 30 or 40 years, but after that it became a sham and the American government always turned a blind eye for reasons you can imagine as they were a very gringo $$$$ friendly group of

To answer questions 2 & 3, the media plays a huge propaganda role and is as tied to the political parties as closely as the cartels are. It’s a four component machine, political party, union, media outlet, cartel affiliation and all it requires to function is continued poverty. We have been struggling to get a middle class going here for the past 18 years and the PRI has been tying to kill it during the past 6 years of power.

4, Same old same old party whoever wins steals it’s that simple and it’s pathetic. It makes me sick every time I see a new candidate being selected and watching all the people on the streets cheering as though Jesus Christ himself has come back from the dead to save them. 12 months later the new guy has been caught stealing hundreds of millions of dollars and making everybody he knows Rich same old same old party whoever wins steals it’s that simple and it’s pathetic. It makes me sick every time I see a new candidate being selected and watching all the people on the streets cheering as though Jesus Christ himself has come back from the dead to save them. 12 months later the new guy has been caught stealing hundreds of millions of Pesos. AMLO Is just the latest flavor, it will scare me less if he just behaves like everybody else then it will if he actually goes through on some of his rhetoric which is very similar to that of Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, who ac financed some of AMLO’s first political campaign to be president.

5, This is something new as far as I know. Because there have typically been only two dominant parties the PRI and the PAN, these smaller parties have essentially formed coalitions in advance of the election rather than after words which I’m not even sure is an option in Mexico. The scary thing about this is that unlike previous non-PRI presidents it could give the best open door enough votes in the Senate to change Mexico‘s constitution. If that is an option for him it could be the beginning of a dictatorship here in Mexico and while I would like to think that previous American administrations would have tried to intervene to prevent something like that I highly doubt Trump would even ponder it.

Doug, I am going to send you a video by text of a table of people filling out ballots in mass. I would post it here but I don’t know how.

[Scootertrash]

Trumps big revelation on 911 was the Saudi`s did it ...........still cork sucking Isrihell ..........all of our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan...........Mexico pays for the wall ............bla bla bla bla bla i`m glad Harley`s leaving !......... hes a liar :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::Bounce:rolleyes::ro lleyes::rolleyes:

LOL

Harley's not going anywhere. They been producing parts overseas for decades and they've been manufacturing their smaller cc "street" bikes in India, IIRC, since they started making them a couple years (or so) ago.

It's all political grandstanding. There are far more important things going on that the peasants don't hear about. The left is losing their sh!t because nothing is going their way and they can't get what they want. Same sh!t as every other year. Nobody cares enough to..........WAIT!!! I'll be right back! Survivor is on and then Dancing with the Stars and Transvestite Alaskan Fur Trappers is on! Steven is going to shave his beaver tonight!

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[Scootertrash]

That pic is missing the tubalube

El, I'd like to express my condolences on the Deep State installation........Er...ummmm......election of that Commie/cabal/cartel/Rothschild controlled puppet as your new president.

If only there was a movement to try to expose the corruption and control by the Rothschild/Blderberger/Elite/Cabal, trying to shed some light and bring some of these POS to justice. Perhaps started by a highly decorated military member appointed to a high ranking position at a government organization. A true patriot who saw what was going on and said "Not on my watch" and got the ball rolling with a handful of trusted associates and the info available to him collected by the very agency he was the head of, despite the possibility of danger to he and his family, and.....................

CRAP! I'm missing The Bachelor!





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[El Camexican]

El, I'd like to express my condolences on the Deep State installation........Er...ummmm......election of that Commie/cabal/cartel/Rothschild controlled puppet as your new president.

Thanks, but we’ve got much bigger issues to contend with at the moment. We play Brazil in 10 minutes and Chicharo dyed his hair blond!

[Scootertrash]

This criminal cabal is making clear that you - the people - do not decide who runs the country. They do. Democracy has become just an illusion, and they intend to keep it that way.


ETA: The USA IS NOT a democracy.

[Scootertrash]

Great Einstein ...........can you go back to padding the military industrial complex that made you who you are ?..........theres some things you just won`t do like go to Mexico ..........or smoke mind expanding drugs .........or spend some $$ on a cute Mexicana ......... you`re corn cob is firmly in place...........i wonder if the Chop master will "like" my post............i`m so hurt that he won`t :rolleyes::rolleyes: .....looks like we`ll never know WHY these things happened............cause you`re all brainwashed ........oh who cares what this country stands for ?.......i don`t:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::Bounce:Bounce Trumps covering up 911 for Israel ........it goes on ....... ha ha..... and on...... ha ha...... and on..... ha ha

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Trump and Netanfuckingjahoo wrote books on 911 BEFORE it happened


Link?

[Scootertrash]

This?:

https://www.rt.com/shows/the-world-according-to-jesse/431333-afghanistan-war-president-power/

Let me get this straight: We are not supposed to believe our media because it's all lies, but somehow the Russian media will expose the truth of all the American lies? Rrrrright. Just more distractions created by the New World Order/Deep State. They're the ones who manufactured these "conspiracies" to keep all the little pockets of dissent under control, and the sheep keep swallowing the bait hook, line, and sinker.

Since it appears you haven't figured it out yet: The Elites control ALL OF THE MEDIA.

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I'll TRY to finish watching that video, but I can only handle so much of that washed up buffoon who'll say anything to keep the paychecks coming in so he can keep padding the military industrial complex that made him who he is. Funny how that all works ain't it? :crazy::Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:D:p:(:r olleyes::rolleyes::postwhore:welcome::w00t::w00t:: w00t::Bounce:Bounce:beer:cry::cry:

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[ironchop]

It's called "controlled opposition"

And Fox News is controlled opposition

It's all a facade to make you think that both sides are represented in the debate....they are not. Fake dissent.

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[Scootertrash]

Agreed! :beerAnd it's out of control! :naughty::wondering:Bounce

[El Camexican]

Do ya get it Glamy? Do ya? Do ya? Do ya Do ya Want my love? :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

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Well it’s alright, riding around in the breeze

R.I.P. Tom

[atc007]

Great Einstein ...........can you go back to padding the military industrial complex that made you who you are ?..........theres some things you just won`t do like go to Mexico ..........or smoke mind expanding drugs .........or spend some $$ on a cute Mexicana ......... you`re corn cob is firmly in place...........i wonder if the Chop master will "like" my post............i`m so hurt that he won`t :rolleyes::rolleyes: .....looks like we`ll never know WHY these things happened............cause you`re all brainwashed ........oh who cares what this country stands for ?.......i don`t:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::Bounce:Bounce Trumps covering up 911 for Israel ........it goes on ....... ha ha..... and on...... ha ha...... and on..... ha ha

Looks clear as day to me that an airliner with 64 bodies onboard , went into the Pentagon in this pic. ;) No? Keep up the good fight Glamy!

[ironchop]

Looks clear as day to me that an airliner with 64 bodies onboard , went into the Pentagon in this pic. ;) No? Keep up the good fight Glamy!Oh the plane that's shaped like a cruise missile in the slomo footage? Yeah I remember that one.

I've always wondered if the Malaysian passenger plane that supposedly disappeared out of Asian air space was the same Malaysian plane that was "shot down by Russian-backed Ukrainian separatists" just a month or two later. I recall Bidens son wanted a gas pipeline through there and they needed an excuse for another proxy war.

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[ironchop]

Do we believe that there is a "Deep State" in our government that is calling all the shots in the USA ?? ...........???

Yeah but even that group are just puppets too.

For their part, Israel is just a puppet state as well.

Your deep state is global. They have no nationalism as they only worship power. America is just the last stop on the UN Police State band's 2020 Crushing Freedom Tour featuring authoritarian socialism as an excuse for a concentrated massive power grab and global control.

I've been awakened since the 80s. My part-time dad was a Nam Marine Corps volunteer enlisted combat veteran. My point is that he wanted to kill commies and save the world for everything good...After two tours, he came home with a brand new understanding of what part of the current day plan was in play back in 63-68 and he taught me to trust nothing I'm told by any Establishment media source and that our secret leaders are capable of unfathomable evils. This was in 1976. Absolutely nothing has changed.

Everything happening right now was foretold even back then. My second Red pilling was by a police officer who was distributing Vampire killer 2000 booklets in 1993. Gun shows were hotbeds for spreading info, true or not. I remember whole booths set up with red pill videos and guys or gals on hand to tell you all about the UN Agenda for obtaining a one world government to rule the entire planet. People were shouting it from the rooftops.

This stuff is all written down for anyone who cares to look. Agenda 21 is a very interesting and very real global social plan that outlines their plans and intentions. None of which involve things like a thriving economy, personal property, or pesky individual freedoms. Back then, you red pilled people face to face or thru print media xeroxed into a million copies or distributed a VHS tape.

Even then, the UN doing the bidding of the true deep state, was planning for global disarmament (an impossibility) on the outside but inside they were planning such things as eugenics and other forms of population control, food rationing, controlling all the food supply, disarming everyone but the UN military including state and local police officers who were to also be disarmed and then fired so as to accustome everyone to a global UN police force and it's authority. They decide where you live, work, how long you live, wether you have kids or not, and who gets to destroy the environment. You will no longer have a choice or even an opinion on the matter.

Most of those guys think they are doing what's best for humans and the Earth but they don't understand that, they too, are just puppets

I believe during the 90s that the militia movement was sponsored/agitated by the deep state. The FBI has so many infiltrators in militias all over the country, it was unreal. I think they were agitating for a civil war then as an excuse to send in UN troops to quell the unrest and pull all the guns they could get then. That's another scenario they had outlined in the plan. Civil Unrest. When the militias figured it out and the media was busy villifying right wing militias in the mid 90s, that combination pretty much shut most of them down. The public seemed to side with folks that shot up Randy Weaver's family over nothing because the media had done a good job villifying anyone deemed right wing. They were priming people then. Planting the seeds of future civil conflict.

So the right wing militia guys chickened out or simply gave up for awhile. Enter the Left wing militant zombies. The ANTIFA squads. I believe the deep state is now assisting and sponsoring militant left wingers and the media is complicit in spreading the right wing hate within the angry Lefties and they are responding in kind.... Much better for their handlers than the militias did. And because of that, they're going to turn up the rhetoric on those Lefties hard core to try and agitate for something to kick off. They practiced their response in Boston.

Again, "whose side are they on? Global fascist or Global Communists?" is irrelevant. They have no affiliations except with each other and no loyalty whatsoever.

Lookup who actually financed the Nazis and sold them weapons components and trucks. Lookup who loaned them money to build the Nazi party and their country's infrastructure. Same deep state players.

Have you heard of the North American Union? No? It has its own currency too and it's not the dollar. Hope you aren't stockpiling those because theyll be worthless soon. In order for the North American Union to work, all borders must be obliterated like in the EU currently and nationalism rendered obsolete for this to transition. Open borders is a euphamism for no borders. Just like these ICE protestors. They are literally shouting No Borders, No Nations. This is nothing to do with saving immigrants or refugees or importing new democrats. This is about conning people into a North American Union and those useful idiots that are being paid to protest will wake up far too late to stop it once they realize what they've done

See we can't even get into the technology they are obviously hiding or already have that everyone knows they have. They probably know how to cure any disease or even stop aging. The icing on the cake for power hungry people is to be immortal because then they rule forever. I won't speculate if they can turn a building into dust right in front of me but I do know, that they know everything Tesla knew and probably lots more and they've tested all those things. They also now admit openly to manipulating the weather... That's high tech danger enough for me. Man made global warming? Yup. Because they invented a hurricane machine and weaponized the weather. Perfect for population control too. Perhaps cause a huge famine. That way the Starbucks building is still intact instead of bombed out because they had to use a civil war to subdue America. They can just clean up the dead starved bodies and go right back to drinking lattes and shopping at the Gap without those pesky underlings.

They can also obviously EMP us if they wanted. No electronics, no digital communication, no electricity, no infrastructure, the large cities would become a killing field in ten minutes. The rural folks would last six months before they had caught all the fish and shot all the deer on the planet again like in the 80s. They would last longer, but the city people who survived that long are going to be out in the country doing raids on the country folks and killing them for food or fun. Then you got your zombie patrols and vigilante gangs. Between all these groups and the rural warlords, you'll soon have the desired population reduction to insure elite resources last longer. We do the dirty work on ourselves while they hide in stocked bunkers. Nuking the area would be stupid of them to render uninhabitable such a useful country. No they're trying to get us to hang ourselves right now.

My point is that it ain't the time to try and make them tell us the truth about aliens and alien technology. We'll see it as soon they use it on us. We won't ever know ANY truths at all if these psycho narcissists get their way. Right now, whats in our face is this push for a left wing revolution or all out civil war. If what you believe is true, we're f#$ked. Just absolutely f#$ked. Ain't no guns or homegrown revolution gonna save us from that alien shyte. Does anyone think a "citizen militia" is gonna stop sound weapons, weather manipulation or these Ray guns that make a sky scraper turn to dust? I'll tell anyone right now that we are in a huge quandary and if anyone doesn't already know that when the gubmint whips out a death ray and vaporizes Bobby's pickup truck right in front of Bobby's eyes, everyone with a gun is gonna run away from that fight and for good reason. You don't bring an internal combustion weapon to a death ray fight. All that "come and take it" shyte means nothing.

Right now, I'm praying that they don't have any of that. But I do know that if they EMP us, those internal combustion weapons are only good for surviving that kind of disaster and the resulting killing spree that will surely ensue. They would like to soften us up for awhile first. Make us battle weary and dead inside and then send in the Global Peacekeeping Force to help us disarm ourselves and submit to a new global order.

Right now we need to be ready for whatever they end up agitating to happen here because these plans have been set for a very long time and they aren't about to give up after 60 years or more of infiltrating everything on the planet.

Deep State gonna get what they worked so hard for. Remains to be seen if mere man can stop them but I know that at this point, we're screwed wether everyone suddenly awakens or not. They set up a domestic intelligence gathering apparatus, prison camps, armed local cops to the teeth and then attempted to arm as many folks as they could within the DHS. The infrastructure for a police state is already there in place.

Did you know that there was an attempted coup on the white house to install a fascist dictatorship in the 1930s?

And they love it when guns get sold after a political panic. Seriously, if they wanted anything less than massive bloodshed and a huge population reduction they wouldve started banning the sales of new guns long ago. Theyll just blame the NRA or the Constitution that way you start hating the Constitution too. Dems have had the power before but withdrew on purpose just like when Republicans could suddenly repeal Obamacare and just backed away instead of that as well. They all speak rhetoric and outright lies. They want us to arm up and flip out on each other and they are pushing it as hard as they can. That's what I'm worried about at the moment. That's what confronts me immediately. I can't change the course that has already been set by these psychos so the best I can do is to survive their plot a little longer.

Its not Global Jews[emoji769] either. A few of them being in on it is one thing but Nazi Germany proved that even those people have no loyalty to their own kind or religious bedfellows.

I've been pretty aware for a long time. I put a bunch of effort into thinking about this, digging into this, attempting to unravel this, worrying about this, and being ready for this and then you came in dropping death ray knowledge and I just want to give up because what am I gonna do against a death ray?

You got any plans or what? I'm all ears.

A petition ain't gonna cut it and the Rebel Alliance ain't got no death rays.

I wanna know all those secrets too but right now they are attempting to manuever us into mindless servitude and control that ensure we never get to know alot of things.

What dare sayeth you, oh Sage of San Diego? You got any death ray plans or even a Stargate would be ok so we could warp in over to Planet Chill?

Not mocking....I'm totally serious. We know the stuff they are capable of, we know some of what they might even have so what's the plan to stop them?

It's not hard for me to believe anything you've said because of what I know they have already achieved. It's not that I don't care about nor do I believe 911 was a total orchestrated deep state false flag that killed real people. I already know it's true and the details of this truth are unimportant because the much bigger elephant in the room is "What will they do next and how far will they go?" ..... arguments and questions about how 911 was pulled off are totally irrelevant to the problem at hand at this point



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[Scootertrash]

Yeah but even that group are just puppets too.

For their part, Israel is just a puppet state as well.

Your deep state is global. They have no nationalism as they only worship power. America is just the last stop on the UN Police State band's 2020 Crushing Freedom Tour featuring authoritarian socialism as an excuse for a concentrated massive power grab and global control.

I've been awakened since the 80s. My part-time dad was a Nam Marine Corps volunteer enlisted vetetan. My point that that he wanted to kill commies and save the world for everything good...After two tours, he came home with a brand new understanding of what part of the current day plan was in play back in 63-68 and he taught me to trust nothing I'm told by any Establishment media source and that our secret leaders are capable of unfathomable evils. This was in 1976. Absolutely nothing has changed.

Everything happening right now was foretold even back then. My second Red pilling was by a police officer who was distributing Vampire killer 2000 booklets in 1993. Gun shows were hotbeds for spreading info, true or not. I remember whole booths set up with red pill videos and guys or gals on hand to tell you all about the UN Agenda for obtaining a one world government to rule the entire planet. People were shouting it from the rooftops.

This stuff is all written down for anyone who cares to look. Agenda 21 is a very interesting and very real global social plan that outlines their plans and intentions. None of which involve things like a thriving economy, personal property, or pesky personal freedoms. Back then, you red pilled people face to face or thru print media xeroxed into a million copies or distributed a VHS tape.

Even then, the UN doing the bidding of the true deep state, was planning for global disarmament (an impossibility) on the outside but inside they were planning such things as eugenics and other forms of population control, food rationing, controlling all the food supply, disarming everyone but the UN military including state and local police officers who were to also be disarmed and then fired so as to accustome everyone to a global UN police force and it's authority. They decide where you live, work, how long you live, wether you have kids or not, and who gets to destroy the environment. You will no longer have a choice or even an opinion on the matter.

Most of those guys think they are doing what's best for humans and the Earth but they don't understand that, they too, are just puppets

I believe during the 90s that the militia movement was sponsored/agitated by the deep state. The FBI has so many infiltrators in militias all over the country, it was unreal. I think they were agitating for a civil war then as an excuse to send in UN troops to quell the unrest and pull all the guns they could get then. That's another scenario they had outlined in the plan. Civil Unrest. When the militias figured it out and the media was busy villifying right wing militias in the mid 90s, that combination pretty much shut most of them down. The public seemed to side with folks that shot up Randy Weaver's family over nothing because the media had done a good job villifying anyone deemed right wing. They were priming people then. Planting the seeds of future civil conflict.

So the right wing militia guys chickened out or simply gave up for awhile. Enter the Left wing militant zombies. The ANTIFA squads. I believe the deep state is now assisting and sponsoring militant left wings and the media is complicit in spreading the right wing hate within the angry Lefties and they are responding in kind.... Much better for their handlers than the militias did. And because of that, they're going to turn up the rhetoric on those Lefties hard core to try and agitate for something to kick off. They practiced their response in Boston.

Lookup who actually financed the Nazis and sold them weapons components and trucks. Lookup who loaned them money to build the Nazi party and their country's infrastructure. Same deep state players.

Have you heard of the North American Union? No? It has its own currency too and it's not the dollar. Hope you aren't stockpiling those because theyll be worthless soon. In order for the North American Union to work, all borders must be obliterated like in the EU currently and nationalism rendered obsolete for this to transition. Open borders is a euphamism for no borders. Just like these ICE protestors. They are literally shouting No Borders, No Nations. This is nothing to do with saving immigrants or refugees or importing new democrats. This is about conning people into a North American Union and those useful idiots that are being paid to protest will wake up far too late to stop it once they realize what they've done

See we can't even get into the technology they are obviously hiding or already have that everyone knows they have. They probably know how to cure any disease or even stop aging. The icing on the cake for power hungry people is to be immortal because then they rule forever. I won't speculate if they can turn a building into dust right in front of me but I do know, that they know everything Tesla knew and probably lots more and they've tested all those things. They also now admit openly to manipulating the weather... That's high tech danger enough for me. Man made global warming? Yup. Because they invented a hurricane machine and weaponized the weather. Perfect for population control too. Perhaps cause a huge famine. That way the Starbucks building is still intact instead of bombed out because they had to use a civil war to subdue America. They can just clean up the dead starved bodies and go right back to drinking lattes and shopping at the Gap without those pesky underlings.

They can also obviously EMP us if they wanted. No electronics, no digital communication, no electricity, no infrastructure, the large cities would become a killing field in ten minutes. The rural folks would last six months before they had caught all the fish and shot all the deer on the planet again like in the 80s. They would last longer, but the city people who survived that long are out in the country doing raids on the country folks and killing them for food or fun. Then you got your zombie patrols and vigilante gangs. Between all these groups and the rural warlords, you'll soon have the desired population reduction to insure elite resources last longer. We do the dirty work on ourselves while they hide in stocked bunkers. Nuking the area would be stupid of them to render uninhabitable such a useful country. No they're trying to get us to hang ourselves right now.

My point is that it ain't the time to try and make them tell us the truth about aliens and alien technology. We'll see it as soon they use it on us. We won't ever know ANY truths at all if these psycho narcissists get their way. Right now, whats in our face is this push for a left wing revolution or all out civil war. If what you believe is true, we're f#$ked. Just absolutely f#$ked. Ain't no guns or homegrown revolution gonna save us from that alien shyte. Does anyone think a "citizen militia" is gonna stop sound weapons, weather manipulation or these Ray guns that make a sky scraper turn to dust? I'll tell anyone right now that we are in a huge quandary and if anyone doesn't already know that when the gubmint whips out a death ray and vaporizes Bobby's pickup truck right in front of Bobby's eyes, everyone with a gun is gonna run away from that fight and for good reason. You don't bring an internal combustion weapon to a death ray fight. All that "come and take it" shyte means nothing.

Right now, I'm praying that they don't have any of that. But I do know that if they EMP us, those internal combustion weapons are only good for surviving that kind of disaster and the resulting killing spree that will surely ensue. They would like to soften us up for awhile first. Make us battle weary and dead inside and then send in the Global Peacekeeping Force to help us disarm ourselves and submit to a new global order.

Right now we need to be ready for whatever they end up agitating to happen here because these plans have been set for a very long time and they aren't about to give up after 60 years or more of infiltrating everything on the planet.

Deep State gonna get what they worked so hard for. Remains to be seen if mere man can stop them but I know that at this point, we're screwed wether everyone suddenly awakens or not. They set up a domestic intelligence gathering apparatus, prison camps, armed local cops to the teeth and then attempted to arm as many folks as they could within the DHS. The infrastructurea police state already there in place.

Did you know that there was an attempted coup on the white house to install a fascist dictatorship in the 1930s?

And they love it when guns get sold after a political panic. Seriously, if they wanted anything less than massive bloodshed and a huge population reduction they wouldve started banning the sales of new guns long ago. Theyll just blame the NRA or the Constitution that way you start hating the Constitution too. Dems have had the power before but withdrew on purpose just like when Republicans could suddenly repeal Obamacare and just backed away instead of that as well. They all speak rhetoric and outright lies. They want us to arm up and flip out on each other and they are pushing it as hard as they can. That's what I'm worried about at the moment. That's what confronts me immediately. I can't change the course that has already been set by these psychos so the best I can do is to survive their plot a little longer.

Its not Global Jews[emoji769] either. A few of them being in on it is one thing but Nazi Germany proved that even those people have no loyalty to their own kind or religious bedfellows.

I've been pretty aware for a long time. I put a bunch of effort into thinking about this, digging into this, attempting to unravel this, worrying about this, and being ready for this and then you came in dropping death ray knowledge and I just want to give up because what am I gonna do against a death ray?

You got any plans or what? I'm all ears.

A petition ain't gonna cut it and the Rebel Alliance ain't got no death rays.

I wanna know all those secrets too but right now they are attempting to manuever us into mindless servitude and control that ensure we never get to know alot of things.

What dare sayeth you, oh Sage of San Diego? You got any death ray plans or even a Stargate would be ok so we could warp in over to Planet Chill?

Not mocking....I'm totally serious. We know the stuff they are capable of, we know some of what they might even have so what's the plan to stop them?

It's not hard for me to believe anything you've said because of what I know they have already achieved. It's not that I don't care about nor do I believe 911 was a total orchestrated deep state false flag that killed real people. I already know it's true and the details of this truth are unimportant because the much bigger elephant in the room is "What will they do next and how far will they go?" ..... arguments and questions about how 911 was pulled off are totally irrelevant to the problem at hand at this point



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[ironchop]

I`m glad you`re feeling better i was beginning to worry .........Chopmasterson !!!............i`m just a little concerned about the Quality of human beings in this melting pot ............after we tear down the walls maybe we could call the "New" country "Desperate house wifes of the OC" or Snotts Landing ...........For me and for last 17 yrs ..........it`s game over.........what WE ALLOWED happened is not exceptable ..........1 step forward........ 2 steps back ......... and what little time i have left i should be the last to care WTF happens ..........i settled for nothing but success and i can`t believe what people have swallowed for the last 17 ...........they make me sick .........you`re right Chop they`re gonna fack with your money , your food . your land ..........everything ruined..........wait till they get a hold of you........and i`ll be in hell before yee..........and it happened on my watch........gots to go final Jeopardys on [emoji481]Bounce[emoji481]Bounce:beerIt was set into motion a long time ago. From the start, this country has been trying to shed it's subverters.

Some people warned them though and they were dismissed as hoaxsters like ole Smedley Butler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

The overall quality in this particular sampling of humans is dreadful so you got a right to that concern. I worry too because several thousand people have suddenly lost their minds if they even had them to begin with. I see exactly how fast things like the Bolshevik revolution go from unthinkable to probable in just a few short years and they embrace a form of government known to foster authoritarian dictatorships and die a slow economic death from attrition.

It's gonna suck the most for my kids. They didn't even have a chance to see it coming let alone stop it. Our kids will be the ones getting genocided and seeing the whole country disintegrate.

If Trump was really exposing anyone, he'd already be dead. I think that's all distractions. Bushes and Walkers go WAY back. I share an eight great grandmother or close to that with Bush Junior. They came over in the 1630s. Old school power. If I recall, old H Walker (Herbert Walker) invented the Skull and Bones frat. I don't see them letting old Don blow all that for them. Bush Senior practically IS Deep State so if it was anything important or of substance, it would be murdered faster than a witness for the prosecution on a Clinton foundation Grand jury probe.


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[Scootertrash]

A lot of us think the same, some are just better at putting it into words, like 'chop.

It was happening long before your or my watch Glamster.

So what's the solution? Where do we start?

And spare me the "Quit your job, go off the grid to stop supporting the globalism agenda" crap.

If they really have the technology that some of you think they have, there is no "off the grid". There is nowhere to hide. And who do you think will be used first as an example that there is no escaping the New World Order control of the population?

So again I ask: What's the solution? Where do we start?

I've asked this question before and none seems to have an answer.

[ironchop]

.....

And spare me the "Quit your job, go off the grid to stop supporting the globalism agenda" crap.

So again I ask: What's the solution? Where do we start.....

We can't do that anyway if we wanted. Have you seen all the towns and cities across the country that have passed laws prohibiting people from leaving the electric grid, municipal water, collecting rain water, and raising gardens, etc.?

Why TF would they want a dependent population? Because they need it to use against you later down the road. Like how China has a "Social Credit" system where if you're not Proletariat enough, you can't get a loan or a job (if what I've read is true)

Republican? NO WATER FOR YOU!

Constitutionalist? READ YOUR CONSTITUTION IN THE DARK! NO ELECTRICITY FOR YOU!

Sounds a bit exaggerated, yes, but again from what I've seen that they have already tried or pulled off, nothing surprises me or is off the table at this point

Keep you paying for healthcare using legislation
Keep you paying for utilities and water using legislation
Keep you buying insurance using legislation

Licensed and state sponsored theivery.

Side note: why has nobody environmentalist asked WHY a country that is so consumed with "climate change" and fixing that hoax would start legislating that people STAY ON the coal-burning electrical grid rather than go solar and independent?

Also WHY isn't any of the 'climate change is settled science' crowd not now challenging the scientific results from data that was obviously collected when the US and a few other powerhouse countries were all manipulating the weather using microwave atmospheric HEATERS "for science and defense purposes"????

How has that not skewed the "data pointing to climate change"?

People literally watched Michio Kaku get on CBS News and explain that weather manipulation and cloud seeding was very real and a very active project and yet millions of morons didn't make the connection at all. I'm pretty sure Neil Degrasse Tyson said the same thing out loud on a number of occasions. Nobody seemed to understand the significance of that admission on so many levels.

This is part of the reason I have no solutions either because anything I got involves a huge mass Awakening to even be remotely successful and from what I'm seeing, nobody is paying enough attention to pick up the giant bread crumbs that are being dropped so I'm sure they couldn't possibly fathom the need for immediate action.

Some people, I honestly believe, really do want to believe it but it's scary and full of Doom and not much positive.... So when someone else comes along and dismisses it as "tinfoil hat stuff", it makes it easier for the others to dismiss it too as an excuse to not try and process this info or do anything with it. If you don't know, you can't be held responsible for the knowledge, right?

It's like peer pressure to stay stay stupid for some naturally beta people.

For others, skepticism has been their best defense from being taken advantage of in life and that's a hard thing to turn off, even for me.

For yet another group, it's naivety and blind trust that our leaders are all benevolent all the time and any indication otherwise is just a glitch in the matrix.... Unless it's a Republican and then it's "Man the battle stations!" "All ahead full steam!" And "fascists must be stopped!"

Maybe if we told that crowd that Trump was trying to control the weather, hide alien tech, took down the twin towers in a fascist coup attempt, and wrote Agenda 21, we could get that entire crowd on board in under twenty minutes via Twitter.

If we said Trump was a Bilderberger and there were twenty more like him attempting to install a one world police state, the entire Left Wing would mobilize to destroy them all in under a week. On the other hand, the Trump supporters would show up armed at the Bilderberger events to pull security and then suddenly, formerly woke people would love the Rothschild's

It's a conundrum

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[atc007]

The answers are as Chop eluded to. A revolution. Is it gonna happen? Not anytime soon. Say I was from Chicago. Mine would probably happen very soon. Thank God I am not. Trump IS the real deal. But until it is understood WHO actually pulls the strings on the puppets. You don't realize how very little power he has. As long as 96%,and I will stand by that number.,are content with debt they have to carry all of their adult lives,watching and mesmerizing over professional athletes and guzzling beer to forget their reality. Or. B,,listening to MSNBC or CNN to tell them what to think. Nothing will change. It's actualy a brilliant plan,and it worked wonderfully until election day 16.

[ironchop]

^^^I think we start with Question Authority ..........a cop told me from traffic school that they hate that the most ...........Massive Litigation ..........sue them for Defecation of Character ............Peacefully send all branches of Gov. home without pay without pensions ...........stand down the Military (just like 911) until WE decide what we`re gonna do ...........all peacefully like the Sugar Plum Fairies that we`ve become ..........i don`t write as good as you guys...........i`m not a smart man..........i should a been a Rockstar instead i`m a bum (at least i payed my way) ...........to give up ?........is a disservice to your Children .........i have a 4 month old Grandchild .........i broke into tears because it hit me what she will have to endure .........now they think i`m a creep for loosing it ..........maybe they`re right ..........sooner or later let the revolution or Genocide ....begin .............i am so fricken bored ......nothing to do today......guess i`ll just sit around and Medicate ........medicate.........dem Klipsch sound good .......Another long winded post so here it goes....

I always feel sorry for big city citizens. When I lived in Indy, the police were very jaded and there were alot of power trippers. Indy has about 1 million people. They were all rude and full of themselves and I acted accordingly... Which means I was abrasive right back. You get what you give.

Where I grew up in rural Indiana though, it was different and it's also different here in Bowling Green, a city of about 50K people.

Probably because it's harder for officers to stay anonymous in smaller cities and burgs and rural people will call out an ahole officer in a restaurant when he sees one.

Back in 1990 and 1991, I was a total dickhead and got myself arrested a few times. I was a little smartaz too so I got treated in kind by the officers who had to deal with me. All of it ended in misdemeanors and some probation mostly until I ignored probation and sat in jail a little while. My own fault. Still our local officers at the sheriff's department were pretty cool and accommodating, as they could be for it being jail, as long as you were cool too.

I straightened up after I made my grandma cry alot and luckily, I never caught felonies so I can have a gun and vote. I've even had a CCW. Never been arrested since though I did miss traffic court once after that and turned myself in only to be let right back out and then the case was dismissed anyway. Another non-issue but still technically an arrest.

Most of the police officers I know personally don't agree with alot of the laws they are paid to enforce. I have had a few friends become officers and made friends with other officers. I know officers who may or may not imbibe in herbal remedies but my lips are sealed. I've been told to take my weed home and put it away and don't go get caught again back in my weed days. I once didn't pay a speeding ticket in time and got pulled over with a suspended license only to have the officer tell me to take the car straight home and quit driving until it was corrected instead of impounding my car and arresting me. I think the saving grace was that I didn't lie when asked a question. They seem to appreciate that.

Now I catch flak because I have "cop friends" from my other friends from time to time but I don't have regular friends who are power trippy dicks, so I'm also not hanging with problem cops either. This is why I don't lump them all together. I've smoked a joint or two with one back in the day. Others have always been respectful to me. I'll give them credit for that.

If you're gonna sue, sue the system. I tend to think that giving all officers a hard time would only make things worse anyway. Why would an officer have anything other than contempt for the citizens that hate him and why would he be interested in respecting the Civil Rights of the people who don't respect him/her?

I can't be an officer because I would most certainly baton the shyte out of some of these entitled stupid m@#$erf**@#ers in a heartbeat. My temper is no good for civil rights. No badge for me, please.

We need to be very careful not to alienate them for three reasons:

1) like you said, they may become the actual jackboots for the International Thuggery and your gonna wish you didn't give them a hard time

2) the officers I know are almost all, 8.5 out of 10, woke as F**k... We need those allies. Same with the military. Any chance you would have to win would be exponentially better with a large number of these two groups in your corner

3) this country without officers would turn into a murderous wasteland in under 24hrs if we disbanded the police. Now I might feel confident with my AK47 and 8/30rd mags to protect me at the store or work but I kinda like feeling safe to send my mom, my wife, my sister out to the store without worrying that they'll be gang raped and then murdered by a mob of angry MSNBC viewers. I like that my grandkids can ride their bikes to the park without 200 pedo rape vans following them around. I'm already trying to protect my family from hell-bent and Soros funded commie dick guzzlers. I don't have time to watch out for rape gangs too.

I don't condone the actions of more than a few officers and I don't agree with alot of the laws that have been passed in this country but I don't blame officers for the laws, just their personal behavior. Being mad at cops for patrolling like they're paid to do is like being mad at ICE officers for Congress's immigration laws....or being mad at a flag in a football stadium because Mike Brown ate a bullet for being a little cocky dickhead or because great grandpa Elijah picked some free cotton 200 yrs ago.

This is why BLM don't protest the police station. They burn down their own neighborhood, attack unarmed white people, and block major highways and streets so that the people with jobs, who they resent, pay the price for something they have nothing to do with. You think BLM would dare attack a cop? You think Kaepernick would go to his kids little league baseball game and kneel at the flag there where some other kids dad's didn't stomp a Marine Corps combat veteran size hole in his forehead because he was not protected by cops there like he is at the arena?.....Nope. NONE of those "tough guys" would pull that stunt if those state troopers all left the building so that 50K screaming patriots could mob all 14 of those ungrateful pricks at once. Not a chance. Those players have cage courage. Every one of them. That's when you're running your mouth when there's a set of bars between you and the dude who's about to wreck your week. Cage courage. ANTIFA picks fights in public streets where there are cops.... They say they hate cops but won't dare punch one.... No they're busy "stomping Nazis" (getting stomped by Nazis). You'd think if they were indeed brave, that they would show up at the local Nazi clubhouse in the middle of the night with no cops around and go to town on a Nazi..... Nope. They need police to " hold them back"

We don't need to act like those dicks. We need to concentrate that disgust where it needs to be concentrated. Congress would care alot more if you're out in front of their offices flipping over their cars and threatening them. Burning down your own neighborhood doesn't even register on their radar since the gated community they live in is far from Fiery Ferguson. Yelling at a flag is even more pointless and weak

Yeah I know and respect that John and Glamy don't like officers and I can understand why to an extent BUT in my experiences, which are apparently radically different, I have no good reason to feel that way so I won't until those circumstances change for the worse. Until I see an officer turn into an agent of the authoritarian state new world order, I'm going to assume he may be a friendly. I could be wrong and dead but we can't afford to rule out everyone who smells funny or else there will be 38 of us left to fight the good fight.

Any officer who burns a joint with me or let's me drive my car home on a suspended license is not about to kick in my family's door and arrest us for being political dissidents. The UN understood this which is why Vampire Killer 2000 was published by police officers to warn other domestic officers that the UN doesn't trust them to be "peacekeepers" and plans to disband them. The enemy of your enemy should be your friend sometimes.... Not all the time, but sometimes.

Almost all the trouble I've had with LEOs was my own doing

I'm too old to live in Anarchy nor do I want to.

Again...... Your local results or experiences may vary from mine and maybe I'm just lucky to have good officers in my community being productive and approachable rather than stand offish and rude. Most of them here all but refuse to enforce small quantity possession of marijuana because they don't see the big deal. They'll take it or throw it away but your not going to get anything over it. They have bigger fish they'd like to fry instead.

When we were kids, the sheriff's department would find out about big parties and bust us making us all get sober rides home... No citations for underage drinking. If they caught you in the car with booze and you're underage, you were forced to pour it out on the side of the road and then they let you go on with a warning after attempting to figure out who bought the booze for you. We never got arrested or tickets though for that.

Now the justice system IS a joke and probably deserves to get sued alot. I'll bet you ten dollars that youll find a number of cops to agree with you. I'm sure alot of them are tired of the same old violent reoffenders getting the revolving door treatment only to be terrorizing the streets again in a month or two.

I'm not asking anyone to be "pro law enforcement" either. I'm just asking that you consider what it might be like with them as allies rather than enemies. If you change the laws and therefore their job requirements, most of your issues with them would evaporate as well.

Also, regarding unnecessary force among police officers, yeah there are some who shouldn't carry a badge but...... And this comes straight from my recent state police graduate buddy....... If you honestly knew how alot of departments are training these guys, it would be no surprise why sometimes innocent people get killed by police who probably wouldn't have done so had they not been trained to consider everyone, pregnant woman, old man, 10 year old kid a potential gun-carrying threat to their safety. Couple that with stress and a hair triggered Glock and you get a tragedy. It also didn't help that in the late 80s during the Crack epidemic, people hollered for the cops to become more militant and to have zero tolerance. You got what you asked for. So my point is that the problem is very complex and requires a multi-prong solution. It's not as simple as shaming them, ostracizing them, or even firing them all.

Again those are just my experiences and my own personal conversations with the officers I know..... Probably because of muh white priveledge [emoji23].

In closing.... If you had the police and the military on your side, how long do you think it would be before all these shadow gubmint m-effers were rounded up and brought to justice? I say 72hrs.

I'm not saying you have to embrace a cop, Glamy or anyone else. My own experiences are unique. I'm just saying don't judge them all by their chosen profession. And move your butt to a smaller, not liberal, town so you don't get harassed by those jaded, insulated, and cynical storm troopers you got in San Dank. White Liberals love themselves a police state. Find a conservative town.

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[ironchop]

Yeah San Dank would be the problem.........i don`t have cop problems ........my dad was one of NYC finest ..........this is (hate to say) a very mean town .........we had a city wide power outage a few years back .........oow the people suck ........and if food became scarce ........they`d eat you alive........cops don`t stand a chance against the population here ........over the mtns and threw the Desert to grand mothers house we go !..........i`d be goin in.........to sin city........butt first i gotta dig a hole .......theres a lot of holes in the desert (just kidding) .........it`s hard ......... i get letters every week that they want to buy my house ..........shityounot.........i could sell in one day .......foogen cash buyers .........lick me this world is foogen nuts ....keep on typing Chop .....we`ll figure this out !Damn dude..... You don't wanna be trapped in that mess when it all goes to hell. Hurry up and move. Get an RV. Live in Glamis.

Are they registering everyone's guns already?

(We already have defacto national registration that we slyly call "a background check" but someone recently told me that all rifles in Cali have to be registered after being inspected for compliance by an officer so I was wondering if that's true)

How many kids you got? I hope they respect the usefulness of firearms.

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[Kamnahrt]

So chop and glamy, I propose this question, while not pointing any fingers or taking a side, just devils advocate. If we, you, collectively as a group, were to hold these truths self evident. The Kabul exists and the deep state is indeed deeper than your wife's favorite bull. But at the same time it's been stated and agreed there is nothing you, I or the fence post can do to change it. Short of a global awakening that is. Which class of people is really better off, you in the proverbial know that has to wake up every day worrying about UN troops sweeping in and putting us in a Ted nugget sized strangle hold. Or is it Gary down the street living is average live enjoying it in ignorant bliss. If what you both say is true the fate of both you and Gary will be the same, but for the relatively tiny seconds we survive on the hurling rock who is truly going to enjoy it more. Whether it comes from natural causes or Soros pulling your hearts out with a Seagul chest punch.

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[ironchop]

So chop and glamy, I propose this question, while not pointing any fingers or taking a side, just devils advocate. If we, you, collectively as a group, were to hold these truths self evident. The Kabul exists and the deep state is indeed deeper than your wife's favorite bull. But at the same time it's been stated and agreed there is nothing you, I or the fence post can do to change it. Short of a global awakening that is. Which class of people is really better off, you in the proverbial know that has to wake up every day worrying about UN troops sweeping in and putting us in a Ted nugget sized strangle hold. Or is it Gary down the street living is average live enjoying it in ignorant bliss. If what you both say is true the fate of both you and Gary will be the same, but for the relatively tiny seconds we survive on the hurling rock who is truly going to enjoy it more. Whether it comes from natural causes or Soros pulling your hearts out with a Seagul chest punch.

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HAHA! Gary has it better off. Sometimes I wish I could "un-know" this stuff too

I just keep on truckin. Ain't no sense staying on high alert.

I used to do that in the 90s and it will consume you if you let it. Both mentally economically. Those prepper companies are making billions. Lots of conflicting info and outright misinfo. There's also alot of people you really don't want to be involved with because it's hard to spot a real psycho until he's being psycho and then it's too late to disavow.

I got two grandsons and a good woman and great family lots of friends so I try to spend time with them. I'm pretty sure I'll be passed on by the time it finally implodes. I like to hang out at my daughter's little lake cabin. I don't watch any mainstream news media and honestly we cut the cord and barely turn on the TV anymore. That stuff would just stain my blessed life.

This place and YouTube is the only social media I do

We've got a few more miserable years of this stuff before enough people are going to be awakened and suffering enough to do anything about it. By "suffering enough", I mean that most people will refuse to act as long as they got money in their pockets, internet, electricity, and Netflix, Xbox, and snacks. You take away all that and you might get a shot fired.

It's gonna have to be like Venezuela up in this em effer before Americans will get off the couch. We've been conditioned to being spoiled for too Long

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[ironchop]

So according to you ...........if you`ve got Cancer it`s better to let Cancer to run it`s course then try Chemo therapy to knock it out ? ............why ?No. I never said that I gave up. I'll just take a more careful approach and party like it's 1999 in between episodes of authoritarian bull shyte.

Also, speaking literally right now on a side note, I'm not a big fan of Cancer Treatment[emoji769] and there are quite a few circumstances where I would indeed refuse treatment unlike alot of other people.

Now back to metaphorically.....I didn't say I gave up the fight. I just choose carefully how much of my everyday life that I let get consumed by trying to stay on top of this madness. "They" are going to make a very bold move at some point. Currently, they are just chipping away. Throwing pebbles at the water and seeing how big a ripple they can make. A militant counter move at this point makes you look like a Branch Davidian or an Oregon rancher. Then after the public dismisses you and your twelve buddies as radical domestic terrorists to the populace after gunning down a couple of them like Mr Finnicum, your entire message is lost to the people who need to hear it the most. If Q Anon is real and they are indeed military you could ask the same of them.... "Why haven't you acted yet?" It's all strategy. They can't throw down the gloves until a MAJORITY realizes the danger or else it looks like a military coup to install fascist dictatorship for no good reason to most Americans. You must have the majority public opinion on your side to guarantee to victory and right now, we don't have that majority.

Excuse my arrogance for a second but I'm far too important to the cause to waste myself in the opening salvo because I got tired of waiting and wrongfully thought that my martyrdom would be the catalyst. Many different "freedom fighters" have all succumb to this incorrect thought process and ended up dead, irrelevant, and forgotten.... Yes heros and leaders are both born as folks who do the unpopular and scary things before they were considered popular but you have to be able to measure accurately your own real worth and if you get that wrong, you're an Oregon rancher who pulled off a standoff that served no other goal than getting your buddy killed and then subsequently falling off the public radar soon after because football and materialism. You're just a footnote then. How many footnotes do you know that ever started a successful revolution?

Half of the members or more here that read this thread think we are nuts so how well do you think we'll be received after we storm Congress and take it over?

Within our own group of self-proclaimed woke people, we argue over the dumbest shyte so how well do you think we could plan, unify, and mount any sort of worthwhile resistance?

We can't hope to even make a dent in this cancer with only twelve willing participants. Yeah, I know lots of people SAY they are down for the fight but after all the signalling online and the Come and Take It bumper stickers, you'd be lucky to find that magic 5% that would actually hold to their promise and show up on D day.

We aren't ready yet. We need more suffering and control.

Rick, I've been fully woke since the early 90s and like I said, it's been mentally taxing watching this proverbial pot boil. It's like watching cold honey drip when you're trying to fill a quart jar. For twenty five years of my life, the big revolution was supposed to be "coming soon" "right around corner" or "about to kickoff by the end the year" and if I hadn't disengaged to an extent, I would have wasted ALOT of years skipping the good things in life so I could stock ammo, rotate my loaded mags, train in CQB tactics, and count my food storage.

Every new piece of info I've seen in the last 15 yrs merely confirmed what I was already taught in 1994. The only useful thing I can think of right now is real intelligence. Are they moving? Did they just hookup the cattle cars to the prison (FEMA) train? Did UN troops just arrive on shore in Battery Park? East Hampton? Oakland? We already know they are slowly destroying this country piece by piece but our fight is two fold. One fold is the actual enemy and the other fold is American Apathy and Ignorance..... Ignorance can sometimes be corrected with education but Apathy is a waiting game. Even with education, you're still at the mercy of the willingness to learn of the people you're trying to reach.

When they make the bold move and something has to be done, then I'm in it. I won't say how or to what extent I'm willing to go out loud on a public forum but I didn't awaken to just ignore the facts and let my country burn to the ground.

You know what kind of soldier is the most ineffective? The kind that got arrested and imprisoned in a FEMA camp as a political dissident before he even had a chance to stand up and defend what's right

So to answer your question... Yes kill the cancer but you can't kill cancer with only one dose of chemo. You need alot more than one dose.

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[ironchop]

.......never take it personally please ........

Oh I didn't.

I've known you long enough to know that you get misinterpreted alot.

I resist authority much more than you think and more than I'm willing to discuss openly

I took your question as a valid part of this debate and probably the most important question since we already know who, how, and why, the only thing left unanswered is when do we draw the line?

It's the hardest question of them all to answer and it's even tougher to get any consensus on what is the correct answer either.

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[ironchop]

Well .......i`ve been crushed .........Buzz Aldrin has stated that "we" didn`t land on the Moon .........and thats the way "it" HAPPENED ! ........check Secure teams latest video and how he handle`s the little girls question .........more lies ? .....who knows

Buzzed Aldrin probably misspoke cuz he's drunk and really old

Tyler said in the video that he thinks we landed on the moon after all and the comment section lit him up like a paid shill

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[Scootertrash]

So some believe that there is technology to bring down buildings with holograms and sound waves, and others believe the moon landing was faked? Are there any that believe both?

Ya know what? We WILL NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH about some things. JFK, 9/11, Jimmy Hoffa, and if Anna Nicole really did marry for love? The "truth" has been obfuscated for so long it doesn't really exist any more. I wonder why?

Do you really think that the Elite/Bilderberg/Rothschilds/powers that be would allow the truth in any "government investigation" that could be released at a later date? Hahaahahhaaahaahaaa joke's on you bishes

Bush/Cheney were the masterminds and responsible for 9/11? Pull yer head out. If it really was a conspiracy, THEY ALL KNEW AND WERE IN ON IT

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[El Camexican]

Bush/Cheney were the masterminds and responsible for 9/11? Pull yer head out. If it really was a conspiracy, THEY ALL KNEW AND WERE IN ON IT

Can't argue that. IF it was more than plane strikes those two would have been very near the low end of the org. chart.

[oldskool83]

All i know is I watched it live in high school on tv. No one knew what to say but it's all we wAtched from about 930 til end of day.

Guess thats how maybe other countries felt when war came to their town. All blows either way ya look at it.

[Arky-X]

I really want to believe that we`re not that lame to have faked the moon landing..........we got people that say the radiation field is impossible to cross..........and others like John Lear that say we have ships that can go to the moon and back before lunch..........i swear we need to take over EVERYTHING and water board them to tell the truth .........rocket fuel ?.......Buwa ha ha ha ha.........da planes should have bounced off those buildings .........holograms of planes disguising cruise missiles ? .......John Lear says the best pilot in the world couldn`t hit those buildings ...........and in another 20years the Government will say 911 was faked .........and no one will care cause we`ll all be dead.......happy ever after ! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes: FA-Q !

I never really thought much of it until you said something now. I've never flown a plane but these guys supposedly went to flight schools (some of them flunked) just to learn how to fly (didn't care about take-off or landing) a couple Boeings into a space just over 200ft wide. Hell, I know people that have been driving cars for over 20 years that can't keep it between the lines on the highway.
I could see clipping a wing but both of these were direct hits.

I have a friend that has flown commercial before so I can ask him but has anyone here have any experience that can elaborate?

[El Camexican]

..and den Elcagone chimes in like the little dog he is .........boy you really told him off this time champ........lets go beat up some cats champ ..........this is why Fabio has left the building.........because he cared what you thought of him .........i never ever gave a flyin fack what you"think" about me or the man on the Moon

So you’re Fabio’s spokesperson now? Never thought he’d need one.

I love that Antaric pyramid. It means there must be about a million more out there cuz it looks just like half the other mountain peeks I’ve seen.

Riddle me this old man: How is it the “Real” Pyramids are crumbling over time, but one that would have to be much older and would have had to have been subject to thousands if not millions of freezing and thawing cycles as the polar cap formed is still standing?

If you want to test my theory, maybe try alternating between sticking your head in the freezer and then up your arse 10 times a day for a week to see how it affects your skin.

OK, enough of all that silliness, do you know anything about cement? What about steel? Both have a point of failure during destructive testing there is no way that the bottom 10 stories of the building could withstand the force of the upper floors coming down upon them. There is a huge difference between what cement and steel can withstand under a constant load compared to what their live load strength.

What about the construction of buildings? Do you think they would build something that tall without designing a means to collapse it straight down one day?

Am I picking your scabs? Do you feel like itching? Bring it on! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[El Camexican]

You bend and you twist ..........because you have no mind of your own ......... where is the 100+ stories of FLOORS that were pancaked ?

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if we encase you in ice for 100 years you might come out of it smelling like a rose

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Nico make your own point

What for? You’re doing a fine job of making it for me.


........don`t get on scooter trash posts and say yeah he`s my idol !!

Can’t I have more than one?

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...face it you`ve been lied to .........lies lies lies........i`ve seen 3 sided peaks before my arse ........you lie !!!


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Um, I count 4 (four) and I don’t see a gold tip either.

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.........they spent more money trying to find Shandra Leavey then 911 !!! .........crooked muvfackers ..........if you accept this ........you suck too ! ........

Maybe because they didn’t have multiple videos of two jets slamming into Shandra?


.....here comes scootertrash there goes scootertrash ............right down scootertrash lane .......

Really? In August? WTF? Can’t you wait till after Halloween like Wal-Mart?

[Scootertrash]

What about the construction of buildings? Do you think they would build something that tall without designing a means to collapse it straight down one day?

It's Always been my theory. How many more would die if something like that tipped over on top of buildings around it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3z841UJiVk

[Scootertrash]

some people love to get their chest defecated on and rubbed in like mommy tucked them in for night night

Are you German? You sure like to talk about feces. Is that why you became a plumber?

[Scootertrash]

So you’re Fabio’s spokesperson now? Never thought he’d need one.

I love that Antaric pyramid. It means there must be about a million more out there cuz it looks just like half the other mountain peeks I’ve seen.

Riddle me this old man: How is it the “Real” Pyramids are crumbling over time, but one that would have to be much older and would have had to have been subject to thousands if not millions of freezing and thawing cycles as the polar cap formed is still standing?

If you want to test my theory, maybe try alternating between sticking your head in the freezer and then up your arse 10 times a day for a week to see how it affects your skin.

OK, enough of all that silliness, do you know anything about cement? What about steel? Both have a point of failure during destructive testing there is no way that the bottom 10 stories of the building could withstand the force of the upper floors coming down upon them. There is a huge difference between what cement and steel can withstand under a constant load compared to what their live load strength.

What about the construction of buildings? Do you think they would build something that tall without designing a means to collapse it straight down one day?

Am I picking your scabs? Do you feel like itching? Bring it on! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

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[ironchop]

I want to build a miniature version of this and see what happens when I fire it up and learn to point it correctly.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180804/c1b94b3bf2def863178e3a0b818da57e.jpg

One could take "Patriot militias" to a whole new level with a homemade Tesla weapon or a Redneck EMP machine

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[El Camexican]

SO lets review each incident in pictures............for those that can`t comprehend it .........Nico Suave , trashscooter ,BTK...... ya know.............and den there`s building 7 ......witch was demolished because it held all the paperwork on the perpetrators of 911 ......sick of me yet ?

Ok, I’m convinced. What happens next?

[El Camexican]

Den give glamer`s a big hug ...........and i`ll fackin go away ! ...........i did the best i ever did ..........i did the best that i can...................i better facking go away !! .........i feel for you .......bettter facking go away ! ......and Godsmack`s new album is pretty good too ! ...........and den i will sh!t you out !...........sh!t you not !

That’s it??!! No certificate, no membership card, not even an iron-on decal?

I was expecting a little more, you know, like an invitation to an annual convention, or a secret handshake like the masons so we know who we are when we meet.

[Scootertrash]

Den give glamer`s a big hug ...........and i`ll fackin go away ! ...........i did the best i ever did ..........i did the best that i can...................i better facking go away !! .........i feel for you .......bettter facking go away ! ......and Godsmack`s new album is pretty good too ! ...........and den i will sh!t you out !...........sh!t you not !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX9E44mClKs

[Scootertrash]

Den give glamer`s a big hug ...........and i`ll fackin go away ! ...........i did the best i ever did ..........i did the best that i can...................i better facking go away !! .........i feel for you .......bettter facking go away ! ......and Godsmack`s new album is pretty good too ! ...........and den i will sh!t you out !...........sh!t you not !


https://media.8ch.net/file_store/ad14ecd159524e9f2cf5ada5c04a0086442ddd8a03a355f7f9 780219ac36285e.mp4

[El Camexican]

Trump still thinks da A-rabs did it .........he suck netan facking Yahoo`s dick ! .........

Where are the missing pages from the report? Wasn't that a promise?

[atc007]

Trump still thinks da A-rabs did it .........he suck netan facking Yahoo`s dick ! .........

Trump knows exactly who did it and how.............................He designs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and builds ,,,,,,high rise structures for a living..
;) Think for a second how many low down dirty people are after each and every one of his family members 24/7 . His hands are tied. He's doing the best he can. Which aint much.

[czac]

I think you`re right........it would be like suicide by police.........he can`t even mention that it was an inside job ..........we can`t get any help from him .......... who`s NEXT ! ..........in the 60`s they dropped like flies

I bet the only one who knows anything for sure is good old Dick Cheney! I swear that guy is more Evil than Satan! lol... The only good thing he's ever done in his life was shoot a lawyer in the face!

[El Camexican]

I think the Saudis are trying to take credit for the first one.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-appeared-to-threaten-canada-with-a-911-style-attack-2018-8?yptr=yahoo

[sledcrazyinCT]

I think the Saudis are trying to take credit for the first one.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-appeared-to-threaten-canada-with-a-911-style-attack-2018-8?yptr=yahooW

WTF! unveiled threat plus an admission of guilt?

[El Camexican]

W

WTF! unveiled threat plus an admission of guilt?

Blew my mind Dude. That's about the same as a punk walking up to you in a club and placing a bullet on your table.

I wonder if they cleared it with Trump first given his warm fuzzy relationship with Trudeau?

Glamy, where does dustification fit into this scenario?

[El Camexican]

I`m not buying it .........ask Dick Cheney .........so lets drop big ones on Israel . Saudi Arabia and of course Iran & N. Korea ...........it`s the only way to be sure ..........fackin-A !

Bomb first, ask questions later!!! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce Blow em all up and let God sort em out!!! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce Yeah!!! That's the ticket!!! :Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[El Camexican]

You Dumb facks ........let the revolution begin........

Dumb Frak reporting for duty, Sir!

What’s the trigger? When does Glamy think this goes down and what makes it boil over? Inquiring minds want to know.

[El Camexican]

I figure it will take California sliding into the drink, Old Faithful blowing her top or the collapse of the Greenback to end the party, but alien’s on the front lawn of the White House might do it too.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Look at how many people have filed claims and what has been paid out to cover medical costs for first responders. Lots of bad stuff was smoldering for weeks.....https://www.vcf.gov/genProgramInfo.html254369

[Shep1970]

Every time I see that guy taking a dump off that wall——. I grew up in Hopkinton ma where the Boston marathon starts, I gotta say its nasty if u go to early to the start 7-9 ish. Every house or establishment has a runner or spectator squating or other behind every house/building.....porta potties everywhere but most wont use them, guess its easier to drop your drawers behind someone’s back porch. Male and female / people just don’t care. 254379

A little off subject but- I got time to kill/ I’m waiting for the damn “plumber to show up” :beer

Shep

[El Camexican]

Every time I see that guy taking a dump off that wall——. I grew up in Hopkinton ma where the Boston marathon starts, I gotta say its nasty if u go to early to the start 7-9 ish. Every house or establishment has a runner or spectator squating or other behind every house/building.....porta potties everywhere but most wont use them, guess its easier to drop your drawers behind someone’s back porch. Male and female / people just don’t care. 254379

A little off subject but- I got time to kill/ I’m waiting for the damn “plumber to show up” :beer

Shep

Sounds like you could call it Little India.

[ironchop]

Nothing "like" the smell of human excrement in the morning !...........we have Trolley stations here in S. D. .............they facking REEK of piss cause the city didn`t even put porta potts in ..........probably to cut down on people hangin out to smell other peoples sh!t...........you walk out in the city............the first thing you smell is perfume and sh!t.........i`m not long for this world ........

REALLY?

Port o pottys?

They can't just step off the damn trolley at the nearest available restrooms? I can't imagine a trolley driving fast at all and you're telling me that people are just too lazy to step off and hit the next nearest bathroom?

No.....people piss and sh*t out in public like that because they have no pride or shame and putting a bedpan under every seat in a trolley still won't keep worthless trashy people from p*ssing on the public transportation or taking a dump on the sidewalks downtown.

You can't teach self respect

This is a lot of the problem with the homeless population. You got some that want to get back on their feet again and back to being a productive member of society and then you have a majority that want no part of society ever again and all social expectations like basic hygiene and respect for other's property go right out the window. You don't need money to take a dump in a Burger King or even in a stand of trees on a vacant lot so there is no excuse for sh*tting on the sidewalk in broad daylight like in downtown San Francisco.

People move into an area and build a bunch of nice things for themselves to enjoy. The people who don't build anything nice move in after and take all of it for granted. Some of the natives cry "gentrification". The people who build nice things start trying to 'help' the lower income people with lots of freebies and accommodations. The people who are bitter about not having nice things set out to abuse and destroy anything nice because they got no skin in the game and their resentment over their own failures in life turns into subconscious sabotage. The neighborhood of nice things suffers and wastes away in filth, crime, and disrepair until all the people who build nice things move away to somewhere else and start building nice things again in a different location. The natives there cry 'gentrification'. The people who didn't build anything nice move to where the nearest and newest nice stuff is located and the cycle is repeated once again.

Which would you rather do? Beg for change in a bus station in a crappy part of town with high crime or down in the gentrified neighborhood with little crime and a citizenry with much deeper pockets per capita and the Left leaning attitude of pathological altruism where personal irresponsibility is Society's fault and crime is blamed on racism?

This is why Leftism ATTRACTS bums and criminals to anywhere it attempts to create a Liberal Utopia. It creates a safe haven for people who don't wish to be responsible for their own decisions or actions any time now or even in the near future

Disclaimer: No, not all homeless, welfare assisted, or impoverished are lazy and irresponsible..... But a large number of them are and compassion is really no reason to excuse poor behavior. You can empathize with people without enabling them....a concept lost on half of the American population

Again, you can't bestow, legislate, or teach self respect to an adult and an adult with little or no self respect is pretty much a worthless distraction



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[El Camexican]

Seeing how this thread has gone to sh*t (again) I'll mention my surprise when I found out that in NYC they encourage the public to use the restrooms in hotels and restaurants all over the city and everyone of them I was in was spotless. You can just waltz into the Waldorf Astoria, or 30 Rock and use the john without even asking. NYC gets a 5 star rating from this guy for keeping the streets clean.

In New Delhi on the other hand it's nothing to see people pull their car over at a bus stop and take a dump behind the bus shack, but with open sewers being the norm, who cares? Gravity takes it all in eventually.

Then they got this going on out East. Train station, airport, wherever, the just pause for a second and drop a bomb and someone eventually comes along and cleans it up like the guy that follows the elephants around at the circus.

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Watch your step at all times!

[ironchop]

Seeing how this thread has gone to sh*t (again) I'll mention my surprise when I found out that in NYC they encourage the public to use the restrooms in hotels and restaurants all over the city and everyone of them I was in was spotless. You can just waltz into the Waldorf Astoria, or 30 Rock and use the john without even asking. NYC gets a 5 star rating from this guy for keeping the streets clean.

In New Delhi on the other hand it's nothing to see people pull their car over at a bus stop and take a dump behind the bus shack, but with open sewers being the norm, who cares? Gravity takes it all in eventually.

Then they got this going on out East. Train station, airport, wherever, the just pause for a second and drop a bomb and someone eventually comes along and cleans it up like the guy that follows the elephants around at the circus

Watch your step at all times!

I believe it's a Cultural issue.

That's why I give no breaks to any American who behaves like that because contemporary culture in America hasn't supported that kind of indecent behavior in a very long time.



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[El Camexican]

I believe it's a Cultural issue.

For sure. It's not like anyone there gives it a second glance. https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-05-12/india-access-toilets-remains-huge-problem-worst-all-women-and-girls When you gotta go, you gotta go!

[El Camexican]

Well Glamy, I did watch a documentary called “Conspiracy Theory” about the Moon Landing a few days ago. Seemed to be some pretty compelling evidence that it never happened, so let’s start there, cuz you like Moon pictures.

Did they land or didn’t they? What do say? One small step for Glamy, one giant leap for Nico.

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[ironchop]

What was the reason that you would`nt state your view on 911 ? .............eat.... defecate.... sleep.... procreate............FACK ?.........and den ...........valley girl !........for sure ..... for sure ..........bag those toe nails .........i`m sure.......have the balls to state what you think happened on 911 ...........Ironchop ........Nico Suave ........Shepp...........i want you to tell me how misguided i am .........or how unimportant it is .........we go down as the biggest joke in history .........has the History Channel said it was a hoax yet ? ..........why not ?..........no more Pawn Stars........come on guys 17yrs of shame to live up to .............do you guys think Gray Aliens take big nasty sh!ts ?..........do they have arse holes ? ........after eating Chinese people ...............do they get people farts ?? ............da Bears .........or da Packers ? ........FA-Q TO !

I'm pretty sure we covered this in class 100 posts ago.

To recap IRONCHOP'S views on 911:

1) NOT an attack by third world Allah Fanboys from Yemen who took flight lessons... That's a distraction

2) YES Isreali involvement..... No doubt in my mind....Mossad inspired/executed I'm sure

3) Pentagon was not hit by a plane but a cruise missile

4) Pennsylvania plane was shot down and not crashed by heroic passengers in the air charging the cockpit... I'm not even certain that "plane" existed to begin with but they either shot down something or scrubbed a missile launch mid-flight.

5) I'm not even sure actual distractionary (?) jihadi pilots were even in control of those planes. I'm sure some drone tech could be retrofitted to a commercial airliner to get it off the ground and fly remotely like a drone

6) I think the buildings were collapsed with pre-placed explosives a month or two prior that were detonated a couple hours into the show

7) Bush/Clinton was in on it ahead of time as were many other deep state operatives here in the US as well as foreign entities. Obama knew the drill too and lent an assist

8) Iraq and Afghanistan had zero to do with the attack which was an excuse to declare war there to benefit Israel and the American/Allied Oil and Defense Industry

9) Osama Bin Laden was not killed in a pre dawn raid on his compound by Navy Seal Team Six ordered by Obama. He was already dead probably. I guess it's possible that he's alive and in hiding. One thing I do know is that I don't believe one single reported claim about that raid. I think the whole thing was a false flag. They may have indeed killed someone in that compound but I insist it was a false flag and it was covered up by shooting down that helicopter full of Seals

10) I believe that someone has tech like the ray gun matter disintegrator thing you explained but to be honest, I don't have any room in my head left for any more plot twists so I've only given that idea a cursory glance so to speak. The evidence is compelling for sure but I'm still trying to process the audacity of the entire plot.

Do I think such weapons exist? Yeah I think so and I believe that anything Tesla ever worked on has been weaponized by DARPA. They have weather weapons (they openly admitted it) and they have the technology to create earthquakes, EMPs, use sound waves undetectable to human ears to turn solids into rubble, and other far out stuff (they openly admitted this as well)

Now when they admitted these numerous things actually exist in numerous tech shows I've watched, they claimed that it wasn't "developed enough yet to deploy outside of the laboratory" and that last part is probably a lie. The Pentagon refines all their weapon designs for two decades before they are deployed with regular troops so just because the average GI Joe doesn't carry a shoulder fired EMP cannon right now doesn't mean they don't exist yet in working order

11) there are just as much bullsh*t conspiracy theories online as there are credible ones and I know FOR CERTAIN that the pool of information has been intentionally diluted with lies and crap in order to help discredit or distract people from finding the truth. Just because someone is on the 911 Inside Job Train doesn't mean I should trust what they claim so it makes decoding all this info very difficult and mentally taxing

12) The History Channel..... Don't watch it. I don't pay for TV because we only turn ours on maybe twice a week or less and it's a rip-off anyway and uninspiring to say the least

13) Stopped watching the NFL out of principle two years ago. Don't like worshipping ball handlers. Don't care for the players personal drama. Don't care for the signalling and fake outrage. Don't care for the fake social justice kneeling crap from protected and priveledged ball handlers. Don't care for the NFL trying to make the game safe for sissies and women to join in. Don't care for the "raising awareness" or ribbons on players uniforms or any of that sh*t. I HATE what the halftime show for the Superbowl has turned into. If I wanted to turn on my TV and watch a bunch of pansy ass brats whine about safety and social justice while bumping Beyonce on the stereo, I would watch the DNC National Convention instead.

14) Grey Aliens don't sh*t. They teleport their turds into another dimension.

15) Da Bears..... The got Da Fridge Perry and the SuperBowl Shuffle... Can't beat that

Gag me with a spoon... totally





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[El Camexican]

That Moon conspiracy stuff is compelling. Why the duplicate images, lack of shadows, noise and waving flags? I'm all in on "IT NEVER HAPPENED" Staging it was the perfect way to win the space race and make the Ruskies second losers after Sputnik, but then where do the photos of Mooneapolis, and Lunangeles come from? I call fake on dat sh*t.

I started watching the Stan Romanek Story last night, but the connection keep dropping off, so maybe tonight. Unacknowledged will be next.

[ironchop]

I think the moon has the most important secrets for man...........can you imagine a government keeping any activity on the moon a secret for forty years ?..........it`s despicable ............ !

Yeah I remember as a kid my grandpa always had Popular Science and Popular Mechanics subscriptions and I always read his after he finished.

I remember all the talk about Moon colonies in the 70s and 80s and how engineers were supposedly working feverishly to plan and design structures to be built on the Moon for humans to colonize. They also spoke heavily about mining the Moon because it was supposedly chock full of precious minerals and metals.

So then NASA never goes back since the '72 mission. Now there are still corporations working to try and colonize and mine the Moon, reportedly. So why didn't they lobby/ buy politicians off to use NASA as a way to fund Moon colonization? That's basically what communication companies and the military industrial complex did with NASA.... Used them as a ride into space to place commercial equipment or military spy equipment, both domestic and foreign, and orbital weapons systems into orbit. Matter of fact, they scrapped future Moon missions in order to design, build, and launch a payload craft called the Space Shuttle to enable this commercial use of NASA using "research" as an excuse for the taxpayer to fund satellite deployment for corporations.

So my point is why not have used NASA to help them set up mining colonies on the Moon as well? Seems like a very serious oversight of a fantastic opportunity for BILLIONS in new revenue possibilities for only a moderate investment by scores of cunning businessmen and investors. Seems either stupid or intentional that they would ignore this... Definitely suspicious. There had to be a specific and plausible reason to ignore this potential resource

Initially, I just thought it could be reasoned away that the space shuttle was a more lucrative endeavor than Moon colonies but that's just not true long term especially now that the space shuttle program is dead after losing two craft.

Instead, they funded the Space Station....a floating laboratory just sitting in space eating up energy and money for "research" or whatever reason (I suspect research for building an Elysium wheel of their own so the elite can escape the Earth they've destroyed for profit just like in the movie). It would have been far more reasonable to build the same thing on the moon, I think. It would definitely prove more useful even in the short run.

Even if you buy the research angle, how many zero gravity experiments have been done versus how many Moon gravity experiments have been done. The emphasis has obviously been to look to empty space for colonization and to ignore the possibilities on the Moon. What criteria did NASA use to determine that a box full of humans floating in space is safer and more feasible than a box full of humans on the Moon? That's what I want to know....."Why not the Moon?"

I'm not sure if aliens live there or if it's a hollow man-made satellite that was abandoned for millennia. NASA claimed it was hollow back in the early 70s if I recall correctly. I've seen a bunch of different claims and videos on the matter but I still haven't made up my mind

All I can say with certainty is that it seems illogical to me to blow money on floating space boxes in orbit when you can spend money to learn how to colonize barren objects like planets and moons also orbiting the sun.... That is unless everything I thought I knew was a giant lie [emoji848]





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[El Camexican]

Let's see if this ever happens.

https://qz.com/1262581/china-lays-out-its-ambitions-to-colonize-the-moon-and-build-a-lunar-palace/

[El Camexican]

........we can go to the moon back and forth and be home for lunch .......

Yet I can’t get Netflix to work for two days. :wondering

Before you get anymore upset with your country, take a moment to consider what a sh*thole most others are. Sure, you’ve got problems all the way to the top, but what country doesn’t? It can ALWAYS be worse.

[El Camexican]

I see Nicaragua is back to civil war.........those poor people have hand made mortars and they`re still willing to fight .........will we ever clean up our act ? .........VICE news .......they show blood.......it`s ugly........i`m not ungrateful but things could be a lot better .........i`d share my food or my guns if i thought it would help .........something BIG is gonna happen.........i guarantee you.......

It’s going to sh*t everywhere. Everyone in politics wants to be extreme, whether it’s left or right, they want to be at the max, no one gives a damn about anyone that won’t vote for them.

Check out Velasco in Chiapas. Was governor and somehow changed the law to make himself a senator at the same time without an election, WTF? Waiting for AMLO to take the wheel. He could become President for life without a shot being fired. And then there’s your guy and his twitter fingers. Something BIG? Put me down for an economic crisis in about two to four years.

You like history, look at the FACTS pre-great depression. I’d best stop here and learn to swim.

PS. The aliens don’t care what we do. We can set off every nuke ever made and the planet will be better than new in a few hundred thousand years. To put that in terms of a human lifetime it would be like you having a broken arm heal in less than a day.

[Scootertrash]

Misinformation, disinformation, public education indoctrination, controlled opposition, Youtube videos by self proclaimed experts with ties to the government or big money New World Order proponents..........

Watch more videos, beech, whine, piss and moan, worry about your future, more importantly your children's future, but noone has a solution or cure for the problem.

Just flush it all right now and get it over with. I'll take powdered sugar on my turds, no sprinkles and one square of paper to save the environment.

Carry on


https://youtu.be/fgi5xdftOIA

[Shep1970]

I guess I look at it this way, the govt can lie, cheat+steal- which they do. Until they put my family in harms way what can I do? Tell me where to get in line, I believe I’m already in it just waiting for the truth/shitt to hit the fan and it will if it’s out there to be told. (Its just a matter of time) Most people that I’ve worked for or with- older or younger feel the same “but” there is a few in the “bubble” that think everything is fine... like (the mother inlaw):naughty:
On 9/11 yes I agree there’s definelty more truth out there, lots of the videos I’ve seen have things that “don’t “ add up....
Ironchop has pretty much summed it up..... on all points.

Life on other planets/ I’m sure there is or has been at some point. A base on the moon or mars? Not sure, but I’d like to know the truth if its out there.

The whole church/priest issue is what I’d like taken care of!!!!! Hang em....went through this before it seemed to get hushed up/ better not this time/ string up the bastards. Ok off topic again...

Ok back to work.
Shep

[Dirtcrasher]

I also agree with absolutely ALL Iron Chops points as well...

[Shep1970]

Not sure how it is where u are glam but here everything and I mean everything has been bought out by Indians (dot not feather) gas, stores, restaurants, pizza/sub shops everything.... thier “mosks” Muslim churches are popping up about every 5-miles. Seems we’re being taken over in this area. I have a friend that’s a real estate agent he says 75-80% of his sales are Indians -us regular folks will be pushed out eventually ——- I have a bunch of relatives in Arizona ( I be heading that way too not soon enough though). They over populated India an they’ll do it here also.
Complaining over.....:beer
U mentioned real estate I think I’d have 5 forieners on my doorstep within the hour if/when the time comes
Shep

[knappyfeet]

Veggy isn't as inexpensive as it once was and holds the title of the fastest growing housing market......again.

And the wait to get your dingy in Mead is crazy during the summer.

Mission Bay rules!!

[Shep1970]

Wife and I keep telling ourselves when my youngest goes to college in 5yrs, “we” are going with him/ we will just point him in the right direction(state wise) or I hear Australia is nice this time of yr. :wondering-no too far

Shep

[knappyfeet]

Wait until Fish and Game boards your boat on Mission Bay and treats you like a criminal .........oh i filed a major complaint because they got mouthy with me........it doesn`t matter ........this place has changed.........every time........i mean every every time you go anywhere in the car .........your taking you`re life by the seat of your pants ........hey Knappy i don`t mean disrespect you`re home town but i`ve been here since `76 and it`s a whole lot different now.......it`s hot like the desert every day anyway......climate change my arse ........go wait at the trolley station when it REEKS of PISS ........ya start ta gag-en ..........with all do respect i`m done like the Chartgers !.........oh the bay is polluted you can`t eat the fish for many years !

Everything you say is true.

Every time me and my wife entertain the idea of cashing out and moving away it's the same thing....where? AZ? Utah? NV? Everywhere else seems to suck horse cock. Vegas is nice and we have a place there (Henderson) but I came to S.D. in the 80s and lived before that in the OC, Norwalk, Downey, etc...... Socal my entire life. My entire family, kids, extended family lives here. I feel like if I left I would be letting the illegals/transients/wackos/middle easterners win......like they beat me and ran me off!

Or I could cash out and get the big diesel pusher and stay a week here and a week there......you have plenty of room for me for a week.

[El Camexican]

Not sure how it is where u are glam but here everything and I mean everything has been bought out by Indians (dot not feather) gas, stores, restaurants, pizza/sub shops everything.... thier “mosks” Muslim churches are popping up about every 5-miles. Seems we’re being taken over in this area. I have a friend that’s a real estate agent he says 75-80% of his sales are Indians -us regular folks will be pushed out eventually ——- I have a bunch of relatives in Arizona ( I be heading that way too not soon enough though). They over populated India an they’ll do it here also.
Complaining over.....:beer
U mentioned real estate I think I’d have 5 forieners on my doorstep within the hour if/when the time comes
Shep

Mosques are places of worship for Muslims. Muslim women don't wear "dots" or bindis as it would be a sin. I can assure you that the dot people are not putting up Mosques. You have two separate problems.

[El Camexican]

Just for you Glamy

PENTAGON: Missile hit. No idea how they pulled it off, but it seems they wanted to get rid of some papers and MAYBE account for a plane they shot down without witnesses, or convinced the passengers to fly out to sea and scuttle to save lives.

FLIGHT 93: Shot down. That’s the news report I got live time in Mexico. It was hours later that they retracted it.

TOWERS: Hit by planes. I don’t know who was flying them, but they sure did seem good at it.

After watching the second hit live on CNN I told my wife the buildings were going to fall. It was that obvious to me at the time having worked in construction. I’ll likely never buy the controlled demolition theory be it from thermite, dustification, or TNT. Buildings go UP and fall DOWN. As corners and centers (elevator shafts) are always the strongest sections of a skyscraper. It only makes sense to me that however they were weakened the result would always be a downward collapse. Even if a corner of the building was struck it would seem to me that the other 3 corners and the elevator shafts would be strong enough to resist long enough that gravity would take over and pull the building down and not sideways. Buildings can’t stand forever, so they're built to be able to fall down one day.

Dust and flame coming out of windows makes sense given the size of what was rushing downward and displacing air and besides that I don’t have a lot of faith in some of the footage shown on the Internet. It’s way too easy to doctor images and with YouTube paying per views there are going to be fakes all over the place.

Reverting back to one of my original conspiracy theory arguments I’ll ask again, why if this was a pre-planned effort to draw the US into Iraq, couldn’t they produce a single WMD to justify it?

I could argue both sides of this for the rest of my life, but I’d probably be wrong either way. There are some things that go to the grave with people, and others that get so muddled with disinformation that their truths will never be known. 911 is probably a mix of both.

And finally it think its pretty pathetic that this topic had to be so polarizing given that none of us was responsible for 911. I can think of at least a half dozen members who either left for good, or retracted greatly over this topic and that’s just wrong.

PS. THERE IS F*CK ALL ON THE MOON. No Pyramids, no domed cities and no 7 Eleven’s. If you believe there are you’re a victim of Photoshop, seek help.

[ironchop]

Yeah i`m with you Shepp .........i`d be gone and stay liquid for a couple yrs in Vegas but my better half won`t have it .........it`s gentrified.......like 1,100 sf for like 6-700k i can`t even stand the beach .....no parking.........Cali sucks........i`m ready to go.....i don`t know where except Lost Vagrant.......


There's a good question.... Where do you go?

I like rural Kentucky but I'm within a hundred miles of two military bases that would probably get nuked in a major attack. I'd go east into the mountains if I had some property but that puts me closer

All those prepper and Patriot folks want to move to Idaho (the Redoubt) and I've heard that the disenchanted Californians are moving there too. It's right in the middle of a pile of huge volcanoes, though, and directly in the line of the radiation that's still spewing out of Fukushima by air and sea.

I foresee a major water crisis from Colorado to the West coast in the next few years so I rule that area out.

Texas is so damn hot but an awesome place and the funnest state I've ever visited. It's also full of rebels and probably would be one of the first states to try and secede and then get invaded by the US and UN.

I like country and rural folks because I was raised as one. You might call them Redneck or hillbilly. We know how to survive on very little, though, and I know just how determined, unified, and armed rural folks are so I'm right at home there. I've narrowed it down to staying in Kentucky or would consider parts of TN and parts of Alabama, Arkansas, or Louisiana. I've never seen Mississippi. Everything else seems too close to a hard target or a natural disaster waiting to happen. High destiny population areas are out.

Belize? Far from McAfee's bungalow?




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[Shep1970]

Mosques are places of worship for Muslims. Muslim women don't wear "dots" or bindis as it would be a sin. I can assure you that the dot people are not putting up Mosques. You have two separate problems.

Your right I stand corrected, I don’t dislike them most I’ve met seemed nice, just been overwhelmed w/them in the last few yrs.

Shep

[ironchop]

WAY OFF TOPIC BUT...Who put this in Antarctica?

And WTF is it?

Google Earth coordinates

75° 0'46.98" S 0° 4'52.71"E then zoom out a little

https://youtu.be/2B9aDPtKKec
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[ironchop]

We gots our heads so far up our arses .....we don`t even know whats on our own planet .........Antarctica`s secrets will be revealed when the polar ice caps melts .....couple years ........and den human excrement .......i mean extinction.........whooooow dude .......totally tubular !


Is that four tanks parked and pointed at what made that channel in the snow?


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[El Camexican]

Your right I stand corrected, I don’t dislike them most I’ve met seemed nice, just been overwhelmed w/them in the last few yrs.

Shep

I was not a fan of the Dot People until a few things happened over the years. I saw a guy we bricked a house for get threatened with letters over moving into a white neighborhood. I believe he was a doctor. I was embarrassed that I might have known who did it.

The next was that I started going to India and dealing with the locals. The pinnacle was when a Hindu guy I worked with years ago in Canada found out that I was going to Mumbai. He contacted all his old university buddies (Hindus and Sikhs) and a crew of them showed up at my hotel and ate and drank with me till I was completely caught up on the culture and history of the country. Unfortunately I got drunk enough that I forgot most of it. Funny guys, just like us, all about the tail and the partying.

So now whenever I'm in Canada and the dead eyed guy at the gas station is taking my money I'll engage him and ask how long he's been here, or what Province he was born in. It can take a few seconds to get their trust, but once they realize your not going to try and pull start their turban, or criticize their English they start talking like anybody else. Politics, weather whatever.

I try to imagine what it was like when my grandparents got off the boat and I have to assume it was pretty sh*tty not knowing the language and everyone looking down on them like trash because they were willing to shovel sh*t for a dime a day if someone would have offered it. My Grandma was a maid and two generations later her DNA has gone all around the world and back. I'd like to think I can do my little part to give others the same opportunity to fit in when they pull up roots for a better life.

[ironchop]

The Indians here own a bunch of hotels and gas stations and about half the doctors in town are Indian.

Sikh or Hindu.... They don't cause problems and are generally positive to interact with especially once they know you and then they are friends for life.

Bosniaks and Somalians are the opposite

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[ironchop]

What is the significance of the dot and the PINEAL gland (not spelled right) in the Hindu religion ? .........love to study all things DMT........if it`s trippy........i`m hippy .....ha ha ha ....ha ...........ha .......have you ever tripped Nico .......debonair man of the world ?..........and of course bag those toe nails ......i`m sure.....I think the Kali Yuga started in 3100 BC so naturally the world is chaotic and senseless

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[knappyfeet]

WAY OFF TOPIC BUT...Who put this in Antarctica?

And WTF is it?

Google Earth coordinates

75° 0'46.98" S 0° 4'52.71"E then zoom out a little

https://youtu.be/2B9aDPtKKec
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180910/d01abcd690401b678175f1a12f012625.jpg

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What's the scale of those "things"?

Way cool

[83ATC185]

Nazi weather station?

[ironchop]

What's the scale of those "things"?

Way coolI measured it in Google Earth when I looked up the coordinates but I don't recall exactly other than those tire tracks are 16 feet apart (BIG mining dump truck size) The four buildings on the end that don't look like the row of things next to them are over 330 feet long and 465 feet apart if I recall.

The whole site is about a mile and a half long

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[knappyfeet]

......or are you too busy with your bitchen life

Pretty much.........

I love Perdomo but I did a bad cut so my life is........not so bitchen now

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[knappyfeet]

......and den Adelita`s .........

2 thumbs up por Adelitas!

I wonder if they had a 9-11 special ahora?

[ironchop]

........Israel is our friend

Only a Mister Bungle would believe this



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[El Camexican]

Bump .......Nico ........Bump !!!........you`re such a feckin buzz kill.........Bump ........what will we do today ?............find some middle aged trim and talk about whatever comes up !

Oh spamy Glamy, why do you need Uncle Nico to stoke your fire? Do you really believe the man in the Moon is for real and that mushroom tea will take me there and back? (been a lot of places on the zoomer express, but never the Moon) I don’t believe there is intelligent life in the Moon, but I respect that you want and need to believe that there is.

You don’t like Earth, probably because you’re a first wave star seed, or whatever Dolores Cannon calls them. Have you read her stuff? You really should, she would answer all your questions and then some. You don’t belong here Dude, that’s why you like the sea and the dunes and even Chewbacca, they remind you of your highly advanced home planet. Just remember, you volunteered for this ride, so don’t be such a little bit*h about it. You’ll be back home with the rest of the Glamidiaimites soon enough.

Now me, I’m totally into this world. First generation, Aries and all. I could watch an ant hill for hours without being stoned and be fascinated the whole time. If I could stay on the rock forever I’d be cool with it. Still a trillion things to see and do, I wish I was born a caveman. See how we’re different? You got sick of this place before you were 20 and I’ll be fascinated with it till the day I die even with all humanities faults. Like the man in black said on his way out the door; “meditate on it”.

[El Camexican]

Oh not only an alien on the moon .........but time travel will enable us to travel great distances thru the Universe ...........wish i`d been born 1000 years from now ........good bad or ugly ........it`s gotta be better then this ..........this is what i refer to as a BEATING ! .........enjoy a polluted fecked up world ..........Fuckishma is 100 times worse then Chernobyl .........have you seen all the dead and deformed animals from the Pacific ?

No argument, we ARE the biggest problem on this rock. We don't belong here, it's obvious. That's why I like it so much, lots to see and do and its all new! :Bounce

Fukushima, acid rain and the plastic masses in the seas are just trailers before the main feature when something really big happens like a meteor strike, or a solar flare that takes out all the grids. I'd have rather been born 1,000 years ago, cuz it's not going to get better on this rock until we leave.

[ironchop]

Civil War ?..........i don`t believe you could get the sheeple in this country to do Anything ..........it`s pathetic and sad ..........it make me not care about Anything !! ..........try this video - 911 and the Belligerent Empire / with Abby Martin .........and get a clue !!!

I'll agree with the high level of apathy in this country but that's a by-product of living in security and prosperity. That apathy will go away real quick when the right kinds of hardships finally set in, so I think it's a waiting game (at least that's my opinion). We're a nation of spoiled little children right now but you take away everyone's toys and snacks and it will definitely agitate the natives very quickly.

Here's yo video linky you mentioned......

https://youtu.be/R3Ht02fXvL0

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[Caminofeld]

What's the scale of those "things"?

Way cool

Possible a HAARP station? or...

https://www.amazon.com/Antarcticas-Hidden-History-Corporate-Foundations-ebook/dp/B07B7C9WKJ/ref=pd_sim_351_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07B7C9WKJ&pd_rd_r=61b1c9f2-bd1e-11e8-91c0-8d9d1b6891e3&pd_rd_w=YpMFp&pd_rd_wg=xU0HZ&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=NA64K75D4NNYRTZS7MSK&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=NA64K75D4NNYRTZS7MSK

[ironchop]

Possible a HAARP station? or...

https://www.amazon.com/Antarcticas-Hidden-History-Corporate-Foundations-ebook/dp/B07B7C9WKJ/ref=pd_sim_351_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07B7C9WKJ&pd_rd_r=61b1c9f2-bd1e-11e8-91c0-8d9d1b6891e3&pd_rd_w=YpMFp&pd_rd_wg=xU0HZ&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=NA64K75D4NNYRTZS7MSK&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=NA64K75D4NNYRTZS7MSKHey thanks for that link. First I've heard of this book. I'm going to buy a copy.

Over 400 pgs of stuff sounds interesting

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[atc007]

My Son watched some Elon Musk video this AM about AI turning on humans in less than 10 years... I said,,do a little research on our drones. 98% of which is still in accessable to civilians.. There is a mid sized one in the video Ironchop posted above.. I said,,,imagine you live in iraq and Afghanistan. This is everyday life over there Son. Not 10 years ;) Didn't Tesla cars kill some people first few weeks out? I'm not googling it. Pretty sure I heard that. Not sure what the future holds,but not looking like a lot of fun for a lot of people. ...Good ol Glamy ;) Keep up the good fight .

[ironchop]

My Son watched some Elon Musk video this AM about AI turning on humans in less than 10 years... I said,,do a little research on our drones. 98% of which is still in accessable to civilians.. There is a mid sized one in the video Ironchop posted above.. I said,,,imagine you live in iraq and Afghanistan. This is everyday life over there Son. Not 10 years ;) Didn't Tesla cars kill some people first few weeks out? I'm not googling it. Pretty sure I heard that. Not sure what the future holds,but not looking like a lot of fun for a lot of people. ...Good ol Glamy ;) Keep up the good fight .Yeah Stephen Hawking warned us away from AI too before he died.

Who knew SkyNet would become a real thing

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[El Camexican]

And what exactly do you figure they’re doing up there in lunar secrecy Glamy?

I say they’re knob gobbling on the dark side, cuz that what Moon people do to get to Uranus.

[ironchop]

You know... the Moon would make a perfect Death Star. Plus it's hollow according to numerous scientists and astrophysicists.



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[atc007]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiMlsi91tndAhXD24MKHeLvAbQQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiodiaries.org%2Fthe-plane-that-flew-into-the-empire-state-building%2F&psig=AOvVaw1A5qXuatqOp3vOkQbDgaGr&ust=1538085181685172

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjP_c_c1tndAhWB5oMKHcP6AoUQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Di%26 rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dimages%26cd%3 D%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26ved%3D2ahUKEwjP5cn-09ndAhXiY98KHUmpBzoQjRx6BAgBEAU%26url%3Dhttps%253A %252F%252F99percentinvisible.org%252Fepisode%252Ft he-view-from-the-79th-floor%252F%26psig%3DAOvVaw1A5qXuatqOp3vOkQbDgaGr%2 6ust%3D1538085181685172&psig=AOvVaw1A5qXuatqOp3vOkQbDgaGr&ust=1538085181685172

I never knew a B25 Bomber hit the Empire State building in 1945. This was on FB. A 911 argument immediatelly ensued about aluminum aircraft shearing off and cutting through steel high rise girders,and diesel fuel melting/weakening steel. I think it's 280 posts long at this point. I skimmed over 4 or 5. Others were arguing everything is exactly as you are told,and it is completely insane and absurb to "dream" there was no plane at the pentagon and here in PA. I laughed and moved on. One was even describing why the steel was still red molten lava after a week of burning ! There were also some very interesting/common sense observations on there.

[ironchop]

Interesting little short...

https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/09/25/the-suppression-of-truth-in-the-land-of-lies-an-oxymoron/

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[ironchop]

Dude....... do you believe the attitude toward 911 in this country ? ..........W - T - F .........land of arse-holes !.........my neighbor .......his name is numb nuts .........puts a sign out that says - Drive like your children live here .........i changed the sign to say - Drive like an arse hole lives here ! ........he doesn`t speak to me anymore .......wonder why ?.........his mommy gave him the house ............i think they are waiting for GW Bush and co. to die before THEY decide investigate 911 .........the people suck in this dirty little sh!t hole !They bought off the American public too

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[ironchop]

Where`s my my me my money! ..........if they`d buy me off i would`nt say sh!t ..........i`d go away ..........the dead deserve justice........i hope they get it !You spent it on that house, those Toyotas, and all those toys...... See how they get ya? They pay you for the work you do and then they convince you to buy all their way overpriced sh*t so they can get the rest of your money from you too.



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[Scootertrash]

I'm waiting on the reports (JFK, 9/11, or whatever other "conspiracy" you want. Take your pick) to be released by the government we don't trust, to provide us with the truthful account of the event(s) that they discovered when they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing or conspiracy.

The same government that is hiding proof of aliens coming to earth, but yet the government agency that allegedly put us on the moon conveniently provides pics of "alien stuff" on a government supplied website you can access thru a highly monitored by the government internet.

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[El Camexican]

and then Elbean boy canuk licks your balls...........cause he does`nt have a facken clue what it`s like to taxed up the arse .........his property tax is probably $100 a year

30%? HA!!! I'm taxed at about 50% on what I take in and then I pay another 16% on IVA when I spend what's left, so yeah, I don't feel bad that my property tax is only about 2k a year. Canada is even worse! It's only cheap to live here if you live in a 10' X 10' box and eat beans 6 days a week. Wake up, American taxes are low for what you get, well at least they are till the 25% Orange tax goes into effect. Get ready for hyper inflation and a recession :Bounce :Bounce :Bounce I give it 4 to 6 years at the most, but you're covered cuz you planned for your retirement.... right?

[Scootertrash]

Yeah the same government that jerks off all over your face at tax time............and facken milks you like a cow .........and you swallow to the tune of 30% so they can play their war games .....and send your kids back in body facken bags............and then Elbean boy canuk licks your balls...........cause he does`nt have a facken clue what it`s like to taxed up the arse .........his property tax is probably $100 a year ..........tripledog you believe the 911 narrative ? ....oh facken please say it aint so !

And they're still shootin the money shot on YOUR face when they collect your property taxes, and when they soak you with all the other Californistan taxes, and when you start collecting your social security checks, and they'll take almost everything you leave your kids when you croak, and on and on. So the load(s) they shot on your face bukkake style all those years you worked are still dripping off your chin.

You think you've escaped the trap but you haven't buuwahaaahaaahaaaaa:Bounce:Bounceyou think you can be free but you can't. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave! Hahhaaaahahaaha jokes on you beyotch:naughty::naughty::lol::crazy::Bounce:Bounc e

So wipe off your chin and suck it up! Or viceversa! Would you like a napkin, or just gonna use yer sleeve?

[ironchop]

You guys are only paying 30% tax? [emoji24]

I need your accountant's phone number

By the time I'm taxed and my taxed income is taxed again several times, I'm guessing it's closer to 45% after you count all the phone, property, vehicle, gas, alcohol, cigarettes, healthcare, and sales taxes you pay on nearly everything you buy in America

And $2K in property tax isn't cheap at all compared to America. It's about average for the homes in my area which are $180K and up

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[Arky-X]

I don't have a problem paying taxes.....I have a problem what they spend my taxes on.


Education....yep....but with all the $$$ thrown at it, why are there still incompetent people running that failing institution?

Green-ing of America.....sure.....but why do we offer rebates/deductions/credits for solar and electric vehicles to affluent people who are the only ones who can afford it in the first place? Why not install a bunch of solar in an impoverished neighborhood and use that to offset their electric bills that they can't afford in the first place? Take care of 2 issues at once maybe????

Military.....sure.....we have to stay ahead in this game. We are the protectors of the free world.....but we stick our noses in places that have a different idea of what freedom is and we end up looking like the tyrant. Boys and their toys....can't just have these cool weapons sitting on a shelf.....have to use them and blow stuff up.

[sledcrazyinCT]

You guys are only paying 30% tax? [emoji24]

I need your accountant's phone number

By the time I'm taxed and my taxed income is taxed again several times, I'm guessing it's closer to 45% after you count all the phone, property, vehicle, gas, alcohol, cigarettes, healthcare, and sales taxes you pay on nearly everything you buy in America

And $2K in property tax isn't cheap at all compared to America. It's about average for the homes in my area which are $180K and up


MAN don't move North if you think $2,000 property tax isn't cheap LOL. CT gets us $1,400 a year alone for a 2017 Subaru trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro box and a rotted out 2001 F250 powerstroke…..Our 1780SF house built in 1948 is over $7,000 a year - I know neighbors paying double that.....no wonder over 100 people a day leave this state. I know I will not retire here as I would have to work until I am dead in the ground

[ironchop]

....We are the protectors of the free world......

Yeah I think it's time for that to end.

It's used as a premise to get the voters to support the "fight for civil rights" or "regime change" by falling back on the implied notion that it's America's job to police the world and meddle in things that usually turn out to be lies that benefit corporations and investors.

Same thing with American Evangelical Christians who somehow are inclined to believe that Modern Zionist Jews (Ashkenazi) are descendents of God's biblical "chosen" Hebrews so they tend to look the other way when an Israeli mob smashes a Palestinian neighborhood in order to plant an olive grove and build a high rise apartment complex.... All very contra-christian things to do to a person and yet they support the US sending billions in cash and military aid and playing angry big brother to Israel in case some Palestinian decides he's had enough or if the UN tries to sanction them for being dicks. That's when big brother America steps in and squashes the enemies of Israel or just vetoes any UN sanctions on Israel.

Side note: the fluckin idiots hollering "Russian meddling" never noticed the Israeli meddling in our elections for the last two decades? Really? Bullscat.

I come from the "speak softly, carry a big stick" school and I'm a big fan of Ron Paul's "no more team America World Police"

It's time some other countries send their boys and equipment off to do the heavy global lifting and some other country's citizen taxpayers to foot the bill.

It's not my responsibility here in Kentucky to help finance the regime change in Syria or the war on terror in Afghanistan with weekly installments from my meager salary. I'm also not cool with my taxes subsidizing the Jewish fourth Reich in North Africa or the CIA's drug running and collaboration efforts with the Mexican cartels.

Time to pull out from everywhere.



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[ironchop]

Why didn`t Ron and Rand Paul come together on the issue`s .........and be team ? ...........i know the gold reserves would`nt last long..........everybody else but us.........systematically really drain the swamp.......Ron has become full of sh*t, imo, and now shills for globalism "as long as it's not political globalism" as an extension of Libertarian economic policies. He lost me at globalism. I need my job manufacturing American products to survive and Ronny thinks it's cool if people bought cheap stuff from exploited foreign labor instead because a Libertarian free market economy says so

They found a way to import meat now and passed laws that make it illegal to tell you where it came from. There goes the American Farmer.

I've always been wary of Rand as a false front for the Tea Party Facade. The rest of them ended up selling out. Everyone at that level of politics is reading from the NWO/Corporate script so I can't see how Rand escaped senior vetting without proving his loyalty to the narrative first. Trump found a way around that vetting and they are trying to destroy him for it. Anyone they aren't trying to destroy, is a shill or soon will be.





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[ironchop]

I'm waiting on the reports (JFK, 9/11, or whatever other "conspiracy" you want. Take your pick) to be released by the government we don't trust, to provide us with the truthful account of the event(s) that they discovered when they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing or conspiracy.


I love when they do that. Puts me at ease every time.

[emoji23]

Hey one time, the Air Force investigated themselves about the UFO phenomenon and found that there were no alien UFOs and therefore no conspiracy to cover them up. I think this falls into that category as well. The Air Force obviously only admits people of impeccable character who are incapable of deception and would therefore be fully qualified to serve on their own Grand Jury.

Project Blue Book, was it?

I must've taken what you said differently than Glamy. I thought that you were agreeing that Gov was full of sh*t and you were mocking their fake internal audit

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[Scootertrash]

:naughty: ;)

[ironchop]

Can't find it with those keywords, Glam

Might have been taken down ... not to mention that there are a lot of videos with a similar name that have zero to do with conspiracy stuff

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[ironchop]

Hey thanks for trying i know it`s long winded .....i just used my history and found it right away .......the a is the only word in lower case.....it`s still there......... every word starts in upper case except the a.........thanks againIf you're on a cell phone, post a screen shot so I can see all the title and uploader info and maybe I can find it that way

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[ironchop]

Nah no i phone .........i hate them .....you swipe and it does nothing..........and they`re too expensive to through down and stomp on ! .....THE You - Tube channel it comes from is Matrix Wisdom .........15 mins chock full of fascinating stuff about Alien technology , 911 , zero point energy .........ya know all my favorite thingshttps://youtu.be/ykM0MuGiQ8I

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[ironchop]

Didn't get to watch it yet. Been slammed.

I'll let you know

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[Scootertrash]

I want chicken ..........i want liver .........come on frisky please deliver...........every god damn one of you.........hypnotized ..........i will obey..........whatever Trumpy dump wants............i will obey !!!SaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSau lSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulS aulSaulSaulSaulSaulSaulairfooler ........lame as airfooler .com

:wondering:crazy::rolleyes:


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[Scootertrash]

Only you could twist my comment so far out of context

No, I spit on your lame arse criticisms of others who don't blindly follow you and worship at the alter of glamy


Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

Lick yerself

[El Camexican]

Ok, but who REALLY shot JR?