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Darius1502
10-29-2014, 12:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-HONDA-BIG-RED-250ES-ATC-THREEWHEELER-NEW-NOS-COLLECTOR-/191388189941?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c8fa004f5&item=191388189941&pt=ATVs

Gotta be the nicest one ever... or close to it....

Lord Letto 20
10-29-2014, 01:27 PM
2 Days 9 hours left, it's up to $6856 @16 Bids

Mr. Clean
10-29-2014, 02:09 PM
:welcome: ..........

DohcBikes
10-29-2014, 11:31 PM
Personally I think seven thousand dollars is a bit high without a mention of a VIN or title. Does it come with anything or just a bill of sale?

A bike with 20.4 miles is not new, NOS, or mint. It is used. Also, the speedometer is the only thing guaranteed to have only 20.4 miles on it. That being said, you could still probably make money at that price by parting it out.

Crated, NEW bikes and NOS builds are a completely different game with different prices.

No offense to VMS or this seller, but there are more near new, LOW MILE Big Reds out there than you think. I have recently learned of a particular farm family that has MANY near new Big Reds stored because their insurance dropped them when the ban came about. There's trikes everywhere out there, go get em folks!!

thestud25
10-29-2014, 11:44 PM
Personally I think seven thousand dollars is a bit high without a mention of a VIN or title. Does it come with anything or just a bill of sale?

A bike with 20.4 miles is not new, NOS, or mint. It is used. Also, the speedometer is the only thing guaranteed to have only 20.4 miles on it. That being said, you could still probably make money at that price by parting it out.

Crated, NEW bikes and NOS builds are a completely different game with different prices.

No offense to VMS or this seller, but there are more near new, LOW MILE Big Reds out there than you think. I have recently learned of a particular farm family that has MANY near new Big Reds stored because their insurance dropped them when the ban came about. There's trikes everywhere out there, go get em folks!!

This is one of less than 6000 1987 250ES trikes ever made, unmolested, unrestored, in mint condition. If it does not bring 10k I'd be surprised.

DohcBikes
10-30-2014, 07:47 AM
Mint condition does not usually include rust, but if you say so, I guess it is.

6000 to the u.s. or the entire world? I own a particular 2 wheeler that is one of 2500 sent to the u.s. and to be honest there are many power sports models that had limited production runs. 6000 is a pretty high number compared to some models. Also, no paperwork???? I'm not dragging it down just callin it like I see it. If it hits 10k I'll wonder why they didn't spend it elsewhere. Obviously I must be out of touch with the market...

captainweezy
10-30-2014, 08:15 AM
Mint condition does not usually include rust, but if you say so, I guess it is.

6000 to the u.s. or the entire world? I own a particular 2 wheeler that is one of 2500 sent to the u.s. and to be honest there are many power sports models that had limited production runs. 6000 is a pretty high number compared to some models. Also, no paperwork???? I'm not dragging it down just callin it like I see it. If it hits 10k I'll wonder why they didn't spend it elsewhere. Obviously I must be out of touch with the market...

I'm going to agree with your last sentence and this one.....
I'm not dragging you down just calling it like I see it.
I will be shocked like the stud if it does not go over $10,000.

vintagemotorsports
10-30-2014, 09:08 AM
yea just chiming in here , I think Dohcbikes is a little out of touch of the rarity of these bikes . I have been in this game a long time and this is by far the nicest all original big red i have seen ever and you mention rust where is the rust ?? there was more rust and corrosion on the brand new crated 250r from storage that brought 30 plus thousand than anywhere near that on this bike . no disrespect at all its just the 3 wheeler market is an totally different game than any other form of collecting in motorsports . the bike is a legit 20 mile bike i helped locate this bike for my customer years ago from the original owner who was an old timer who simply didnt use it . is there any other new or like new ATCs out there you ask ?? you bet there is I know of or own more than a dozen of them does this take away from the value no why would it we are approaching the 30 year mark from the ban and the 44 year mark from the first US90 so really anything that age that has survived all these years without any damage is a true find . just my 2 cents

Billy Golightly
10-30-2014, 10:57 AM
Wow! That is a pretty immaculate specimen. Been a while since we seen a machine go north of $10K I think. Will be interesting to continue watching!

ATC-Eric
10-30-2014, 12:08 PM
Man I would love to have this. Beautiful machine.

oldskool83
10-31-2014, 10:26 AM
I think its been restored with a low speedo put on...

Darius1502
10-31-2014, 12:43 PM
Pretty cool...thanks Mike for the back story. This will be interesting!

DohcBikes
10-31-2014, 02:27 PM
I think its been restored with a low speedo put on...
Mike has already addressed this concern with some background at this point.

So, if it goes for less than 10k does that mean EVERYBODY is out of touch..... Even 7 thousand dollars is a lot of coin for a used 1987 bike with no title, I don't care how you slice it. 10K would boggle my mind.

Thanks for the background Mike, and here's to hoping I'm the one that's out of touch....:beer

thestud25
10-31-2014, 03:43 PM
Mike has already addressed this concern with some background at this point.

So, if it goes for less than 10k does that mean EVERYBODY is out of touch..... Even 7 thousand dollars is a lot of coin for a used 1987 bike with no title, I don't care how you slice it. 10K would boggle my mind.

Thanks for the background Mike, and here's to hoping I'm the one that's out of touch....:beer

If it goes less than 10k then it is what it is. I have seen astronomical prices on mint ATC's that have sold for those prices. Market drives price.

nik0708
10-31-2014, 05:11 PM
Nice bike. Surely all of us ATC enthusiasts must be keen to the see this auction go to the moon?
203813
This is number 51 of 600 88 models.

robertc
10-31-2014, 06:37 PM
When I bought my 87 Big Red, thought I crossed the Big Red off my wish list. Thanks to nic0708, my 87 is now a utility vehicle instead of a collector's item.

honda200x1987
10-31-2014, 10:22 PM
It has a 9000 bid with one hour left, let's see how high it goes. Mike is def not out of touch,lol.. Here are a few that sold on ebay, 1986 125M "rode only around the yard once or twice like new" sold for 13,600 and the 1987 250SX "brand new never had gas in it"sold for 12,100. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Honda-ATC-125m-almost-Brand-New-collector-museum-quality-NOS-ATC125m-mint-/121436870811?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c4633989b&item=121436870811&pt=ATVs http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-1987-Honda-ATC-250sx-never-ridden-Ultimate-collector-bike-NOS-/151379206580?forcerrptr=true&hash=item233ee761b4&item=151379206580&pt=ATVs

DohcBikes
11-01-2014, 08:32 AM
It has a 9000 bid with one hour left, let's see how high it goes. Mike is def not out of touch,lol.. Here are a few that sold on ebay, 1986 125M "rode only around the yard once or twice like new" sold for 13,600 and the 1987 250SX "brand new never had gas in it"sold for 12,100. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Honda-ATC-125m-almost-Brand-New-collector-museum-quality-NOS-ATC125m-mint-/121436870811?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c4633989b&item=121436870811&pt=ATVs http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-1987-Honda-ATC-250sx-never-ridden-Ultimate-collector-bike-NOS-/151379206580?forcerrptr=true&hash=item233ee761b4&item=151379206580&pt=ATVs

Well looks like somebody got a deal! Wonder who it was.....

Rode once, never had gas in it, 2 completely different sets of circumstances for those bikes. And in my opinion the 125m was overpaid for. The SX, now there's a bike that's worth over ten thousand.

Nobody on this page even suggested that Mike was out of touch.

This ain't my first rodeo kids. It didn't hit 10k because it isn't worth it. In my opinion somebody paid an extra 3 grand or so for the peace of mind that it came from the "gilded circle" of collectors.

That's all I have to say about that, back to being out of touch.

nik0708
11-01-2014, 10:01 AM
When I bought my 87 Big Red, thought I crossed the Big Red off my wish list. Thanks to
nic0708, my 87 is now a utility vehicle instead of a collector's item.

Hi,
My 88 needs a bit of work here and there, I have NOS fenders with the correct over fenders, heel guards and the correct NOS heavy duty ohtsu's that most of the 88's came fitted with. All other parts that were specific to the 88 are present and in very good condition (horn, light grey dash pad, seat etc) I found it in the southern tip of Italy so there is no corrosion on the bike at all. It will be treated to a nut and bolt resto at some point but it is about 5th in line right now.
I also have an 86 BR but it's showing its age compared to the 87 for sale and has a covered a grand total of 209 miles!203841

joesouth
11-01-2014, 10:31 AM
More pictures of the 1988 Big Red please:w00t:

atc007
11-01-2014, 01:32 PM
Hi,
My 88 needs a bit of work here and there, I have NOS fenders with the correct over fenders, heel guards and the correct NOS heavy duty ohtsu's that most of the 88's came fitted with. All other parts that were specific to the 88 are present and in very good condition (horn, light grey dash pad, seat etc) I found it in the southern tip of Italy so there is no corrosion on the bike at all. It will be treated to a nut and bolt resto at some point but it is about 5th in line right now.
I also have an 86 BR but it's showing its age compared to the 87 for sale and has a covered a grand total of 209 miles!203841
Great stuff as always Nic.. The seller in this Ebay ad certainly seems to have taken a LOT for granted in his description. To say the least :) ohh well,gotta love ebay :)

jakep53
11-02-2014, 03:37 AM
Hi,
My 88 needs a bit of work here and there, I have NOS fenders with the correct over fenders, heel guards and the correct NOS heavy duty ohtsu's that most of the 88's came fitted with. All other parts that were specific to the 88 are present and in very good condition (horn, light grey dash pad, seat etc) I found it in the southern tip of Italy so there is no corrosion on the bike at all. It will be treated to a nut and bolt resto at some point but it is about 5th in line right now.
I also have an 86 BR but it's showing its age compared to the 87 for sale and has a covered a grand total of 209 miles!203841

Would you have some pic of these tyres fenders ect I have seen around 4 88s 3 ended up being parted out and 1 the seller ended the auction and never got back to me but none of them had these tyres heel guards grey dash they just looked like ordinary bigreds

nik0708
11-02-2014, 04:33 AM
Would you have some pic of these tyres fenders ect I have seen around 4 88s 3 ended up being parted out and 1 the seller ended the auction and never got back to me but none of them had these tyres heel guards grey dash they just looked like ordinary bigreds

I'm pretty sure there are some brochures on here where you can sed the tires, over fenders etc.
I'll try to get pictures this week.
Nick

gbpitch
11-02-2014, 09:56 AM
Item condition:New
Ended: Oct 31, 2014 10/31, 9:00PM
Winning bid:US $9,000.00
[ 25 bids / 8 bidders ]

IronBear
11-07-2014, 11:45 AM
That's a beautiful bike!

IronBear
11-07-2014, 11:47 AM
Hi,
My 88 needs a bit of work here and there, I have NOS fenders with the correct over fenders, heel guards and the correct NOS heavy duty ohtsu's that most of the 88's came fitted with. All other parts that were specific to the 88 are present and in very good condition (horn, light grey dash pad, seat etc) I found it in the southern tip of Italy so there is no corrosion on the bike at all. It will be treated to a nut and bolt resto at some point but it is about 5th in line right now.
I also have an 86 BR but it's showing its age compared to the 87 for sale and has a covered a grand total of 209 miles!203841

Nice bike Nick! Let me know if you should ever decide to sell that extra Hondaline toolbox that you have :)

IronBear
12-06-2014, 02:02 PM
Nice bike. Surely all of us ATC enthusiasts must be keen to the see this auction go to the moon?
203813
This is number 51 of 600 88 models.

That's a beautiful Big Red you have there Nick!