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myridge
12-09-2014, 01:04 AM
the tread is great but it has dry cracks and leaks down quickly. I want to try and tube it but have jumped on it and I'm not light (300lbs) and it won't budge. What's the best way to bust this crusty old thing loose?

1985 yamaha Ytm200ERN 25x11-9 front turf tire. 205783

jakep53
12-09-2014, 08:27 AM
just to let you know those tyres make the front end handle like trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro I would suggest something more rounded such as a nobby! but you will need a bead breaker I have one my dad built I can take some pics!

oile
12-09-2014, 08:50 AM
You can do it the poor mans way and drive over the tire with a truck.

e5earley
12-09-2014, 09:13 AM
I place the tire and wheel flat under the rear bumper of my truck then put the base of a hydraulic jack next to the bead and the top under the trailer hitch. Then jack away.

wonderboy
12-09-2014, 09:16 AM
This:
http://www.beadbuster.com/

hublake
12-09-2014, 10:19 AM
This:
http://www.beadbuster.com/

Have you tried this, Frank?

wonderboy
12-09-2014, 11:32 AM
I have a very similar tool to this one, but not this exact one. I was going to pull the trigger on that one, and then I found the official Honda bead breaker tool on e-bay (the one that they describe in all the service manuals in the tire section)

The Honda tool works on the same principal though. You have a press-block which pushes on a foot which is clamped into place. The way that the press foot is clamped into place, it prevents if from flexing out and pushing on the sidewall of the tire. These tools are locked in and push directly on the bead.

I used to have to always pay the tire shop to break down my tires, now I am self sufficient.

I'll post up pics of the official Honda tool when I get home tonight.

kaymo
12-09-2014, 11:35 AM
i am in love... i would buy one but it looks to easy to make if you have a welder and scrap.....

M.Pargiello
12-09-2014, 11:52 AM
I just got a regular bead breaker. Tires are always a pain but it has been easier for me now.

That bead buster looks really cool. I will have to look into the Honda one, Frank!

myridge
12-09-2014, 03:06 PM
Yeah this little tool looks cool. Might have to get one of those in the future but for now I'll try the truck tire method

wonderboy
12-09-2014, 09:10 PM
Here is the Honda official beadbreaker from back in the day. Keep your eyes on e-bay, they come up from time to time.
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Here is how it is used (from the service manual tire section):
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86125m
12-09-2014, 10:36 PM
take it to a tireshop its easier.

HarrisoN*
12-09-2014, 10:46 PM
slide hammer on the edge of the rim/bead.

cap
12-09-2014, 10:52 PM
Highlift jack setting on the bead, under the front bumper of my old truck.

myridge
12-09-2014, 10:59 PM
I'll have to try the highlift jack method cause the truck didn't do it. That thing is one stubborn SOB. Good news is the tube came in the mail tonight. So now I really want to break this bead

Jmoozy27
12-10-2014, 12:51 AM
Evolution man, I recall a few years ago, my boss backed into the shop with one of those red bead breakers on the pallet and 4 stubborn tires to his quad. It took us 4 hours to change the tires and we had to get pretty innovative. We still have it, but I usually just take my wheels to a local tire shop and they do it for free. But dammit that BB handheld looks effective. It will be In my inventory soon.

cap
12-10-2014, 12:25 PM
You can always cut it, see you tube for a video
Be careful not to nick the rim.

myridge
12-12-2014, 07:36 PM
I broke down and ordered the bead buster today. Was more than I wanted to spend but I figured there are going to be lots of tires to work on in the future so it was a good tool investment. I'll let you know how it works out. Next is to pickup some good tire spoons.

webbch
12-13-2014, 08:15 PM
Good move on ordering the bead buster. I have one I picked up to change a single tire on a 110. A couple weeks ago I changed all 3 (original) tires on my '84 200x. Piece of cake with those beads that had been in place for 30 years and takes up very little space in an over-packed garage like mine.

Hasteranger
12-13-2014, 11:46 PM
I have a giant pliers style one I use on motorcycle, mountain bike, and skinny trailer tires. For anything else I stand on the rim and use a high lift jack with the foot close to the bead. Leave the tire somewhere hot if it's stubborn and dont be afraid to use some thick soapy water. A truck and a 2x4 has never failed me either, but it's pretty hard to do with one person as the board slides off.

HondaXRider
12-14-2014, 12:02 AM
Harbor Freight has a hand tire machine that has a bead breaker on it that works very well we bought ares like 15 years ago and still use it alot. An air hammer works pretty good to.

Crazyktmmatt
12-16-2014, 01:26 AM
My bead breaker

It does decent even on the really stubborn ones.

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jays375
12-16-2014, 08:18 PM
The $40 Harbor Freight bead breaker works great.I'm sorry it's to late.Ive done tons of of all sorts of tires with mine.

wonderboy
12-16-2014, 11:24 PM
The $40 Harbor Freight unit bent like a wet noodle for me when I tried to use it on a 250SX tire and rim.

myridge
12-16-2014, 11:45 PM
Well the bead buster 450 came in the mail today and it did the job. Had to move it around 4-5 times on the rim but it worked. Glad I picked it up but still not sure it's worth the $104 I paid but it will be a useful tool in the future.

BigRedGrizzly
03-15-2016, 06:03 PM
Hey all... Got my Bead buster today... Seem to work well... Happy to have it in my Arsenal....
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/2c72b5ee7ae9675b1aefca32b81e000a.jpg
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Jd110
03-16-2016, 01:04 AM
I didn't know what to do on my 1st one so I threw it under the truck, 2x4 block on tire, bottle jack on 2x4 and away I went. Bang. Done. Gotta get me a bead buster, though. Seems a bit more like a pro. Thanks!

BigRedGrizzly
03-16-2016, 10:08 PM
Thanks for that post BRG.

I've been looking at those. I want something that is compact enough to carry in a small tool box, so I can take it with me when I haul to trails. I don't like plugs except for emergency repair, and I run 2 ply tires, so I have to occasionally break one bead down so I can patch them.

I've been using a bead breaking hammer for years and I'm tired of it.

I ordered it from Amazon $104. They were out of the XB450 so they sent me a XB451 retailing at $140. Free upgrade. [emoji1303]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=xb-450

ps2fixer
03-18-2016, 10:56 PM
Thanks for that post BRG.

I've been looking at those. I want something that is compact enough to carry in a small tool box, so I can take it with me when I haul to trails. I don't like plugs except for emergency repair, and I run 2 ply tires, so I have to occasionally break one bead down so I can patch them.

I've been using a bead breaking hammer for years and I'm tired of it.

You mean one of these?

http://photos.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/uptest/a114172.jpg

My dad has one of them, broke down 500+ tires with one similar with a wooden hammer from my grandpa's place when he sold his house. Hell of a lot of work, but fairly quick if you are good. The semi sized tires is where it really shined though while the normal tire press style one did better on smaller car tires. ATV tires have always been a bit of a fight though, the little bead breaker linked above might be a good investment.

ps2fixer
03-19-2016, 03:55 PM
Neat video. very similar process as what my dad uses. The tires I talked about before were OLD and have been sitting around 10-50 years. All of the semi sized tires were the ring style where you have to break the bead down, remove the holding clip and pull the ring up to slide the tire off the rim. Royal pain when everything is rusted up. Tool looked almost exactly the same as my dad's except it is probably 20+ years old, just a basic wood handle, but the same head.

Georgiabii
03-19-2016, 06:29 PM
I just put 3 tires on mine...

Best 30 bucks I ever spent to watch 3 down on their luck tire guys kill themselves for my amusement.

BigRedGrizzly
03-19-2016, 08:50 PM
I was able to mount my tires. It was difficult but I did it. I laid all three of them on the old cast iron radiators in my house and cranked up the heat. I got them pretty warm and flexible. Lubed the heck out of one side with windex and managed to get the one side of the tire on the rim by just pushing it on. Getting the second side on was the struggle. Lubed the heck out of it and went to work at it with 4 tire irons. 2 large ones from Harbor Freight and 2 motion pro tire spoons. By the time I emerged from the room I was doing this in I was shirtless, extremely sweaty, and exhausted. With laughter, my wife said to me that it looked like I was just in a fight. I told her I kind of was... Lol...[emoji1320]

350for350
03-19-2016, 10:29 PM
Sometimes they can be a fight, other times they seem to almost mount themselves. Having experience with a lot of different sizes of tires helps. My worst atv experience was about 12 years ago when I tried to put a tube in one of my 350x tires. Brand new tube, wouldn't go all the way on, wouldn't come back off. I got so mad that I cut it off the rim. Then I bought another and it went on easy. It must have been one for an 8" rim in a box that said 9". I couldn't return it after I gave it the Jason Voorheevs treatment either.

derrick81787
03-23-2016, 04:00 PM
I had to install tubes in my riding mower's tires, and I was able to break the bead by beating the tire near the rim (but not actually hitting the rim) with one of those smaller sledgehammers. It took a few whacks, but it was relatively easy.