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coryseiber
04-14-2015, 11:31 PM
purchased about an hour ago for $300
all i was told was that its a 200x and thats what the plastics say.
i went to look up the VIN number and for the life of me i can't find it not find it on the frame.
its a bit rough and was trying to get it started, it fired up. then died. then went to try again and
the pull start broke :mad:
any help on finding the year of this bad boy would be greatly appreciated.
ill snap some pics in a few min.

Thanks
Cory

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 03:19 AM
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Did that work? I'm posting from my phone on my browser.

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 03:20 AM
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Don't know why it's turned.

frankydodo
04-15-2015, 05:55 AM
Its a first gen 200x so 1983-1985 and it looks like you have a 200m engine (electric start and no high/low subtrans)

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 10:57 AM
It's definitely a pull start. (I have the pull start pulled off in those images)
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There are some more pics. Let me know if a specific pic is needed.

yaegerb
04-15-2015, 11:10 AM
whew, that's rough. Its an 84 200x with a 200m motor in it.

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 12:10 PM
Ok. It's also missing the tube from the carb to the airbox.
Anything that connects and is airtight should work? Or should I look for a Honda part?

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 12:11 PM
Also. Is there a resource for manuals?

frankydodo
04-15-2015, 12:13 PM
200m have pull start and electric start.

manual here

http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 12:27 PM
Maybe I'm blind. But I don't see the electric start. Where would I look?
Thanks for the help. I'm totally lost.

jhusk33
04-15-2015, 01:17 PM
The VIN will be found underneath the handlebars on the collar that holds the forks. I would recommend finding model, year, specs, and then using the OEM Honda manual to troubleshoot problems. Having the manual helps a ton!!

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 01:39 PM
I've looked in that spot. on both sides of it. i see no numbers there at all. wouldn't be anywhere else right?
franky posted a link to the manual so ill be good there.

the previous owner jimmy rigged a kill switch on the handlebar. you can see it in the pic i posted above.
besides getting the pull start fixed, my first order of business is the intake tube then a proper kill switch. then the brakes. they dont work right now.

frankydodo
04-15-2015, 08:09 PM
The electric start is the thing on front of the engine that touches the frame im not saying it should work but you have it

coryseiber
04-15-2015, 08:43 PM
So it's the black thing on the pull start case?

coryseiber
04-16-2015, 01:10 AM
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so. walked into my garage after work today.
i think it has a gas leak.

EDIT
im not sure why they are turned. they were upright in my phone.

jhusk33
04-16-2015, 09:34 AM
You will probably want to remove and clean the carb out completely and maybe buy a rebuild kit. From my experience carburetors are extremely finicky and will test your patience. I also was able to find a rubber hose clamp at a local hardware store that connects my carb to the airbox. It's not manufacturer but it was a 5 dollar fix. Or just by an aftermarket air filter and install that with no air box. There are many options as far as the airbox is concerned.

jb2wheels
04-16-2015, 11:10 AM
Looks like it has the mounting place for an e-start but no starter mounted? Would be just in front of the cylinder, under the exhaust pipe, just above the cases.

This is where the starter would be:

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yaegerb
04-16-2015, 11:32 AM
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so. walked into my garage after work today.
i think it has a gas leak.

EDIT
im not sure why they are turned. they were upright in my phone.

I think I would spend 10 bucks at the carwash and clean that entire bike spotless. Heaven help you if you work on that carb when its that filthy.

coryseiber
04-16-2015, 12:09 PM
Carbs scare me. I'm always afraid of it not working because I screwed it up.
The airbox tube is my least concern right now. But it looks like I bought more of a project then I thought.
I'll definitely be giving it w good cleaning before I do anything with it. I can't stand working on filthy things.
But i don't have a trailer and I drive a jeep. (Live across the street from where I'll spend most of my time on it)
So a car wash is out of the question lol.
And from what I've gathered, ebay is the best bet for parts correct?

yaegerb
04-16-2015, 01:09 PM
Carbs scare me. I'm always afraid of it not working because I screwed it up.
The airbox tube is my least concern right now. But it looks like I bought more of a project then I thought.
I'll definitely be giving it w good cleaning before I do anything with it. I can't stand working on filthy things.
But i don't have a trailer and I drive a jeep. (Live across the street from where I'll spend most of my time on it)
So a car wash is out of the question lol.
And from what I've gathered, ebay is the best bet for parts correct?

Ebay works. If you find you need a new carb, send me a PM. I have two rebuilt and ready to go.

coryseiber
04-16-2015, 01:36 PM
I tried to send this in a pm to you yaeger but it wouldn't let me or something.
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jhusk33
04-16-2015, 01:43 PM
the part circled in the picture is the starter. the wire that comes out of it goes up to the ignition starter switch. look up the wiring diagram on your manual and it will be much easier to wire

coryseiber
04-16-2015, 02:18 PM
the starter itself isn't there. from what I've read, to swap that engine with the starter motor on it you have to notch the frame. and that isn't done.
i can live with pull start. thats no problem.
my biggest concern is just making this trike rideable, it looks like its going to be a good project. previous owner rode it as it sits right now. I'm not a fan of that, the carb was wide open with no filter on it at all. i know absolutely nothing when it comes to engines or the workings of them. but am mechanically inclined and know how to use tools.

yaegerb
04-16-2015, 02:19 PM
I tried to send this in a pm to you yaeger but it wouldn't let me or something.
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Got your PM and responded.

coryseiber
04-17-2015, 02:13 PM
i started messing around with taking stuff off that i know ill need to replace.

the rear brakes.
there was no lid on the reservoir so the cylinder is completely clogged up with sand.
looks like i need a new one.

carb.
was missing a nut to attach to the intake.
ill be buying a new carb from yaeger.

and i definitely need a new on/off switch.

i think those items will be my first priority. i want to get it rideable. then ill fix more as i can and the need arises.

coryseiber
04-20-2015, 02:01 PM
pull start fixed.

has a hell of a time starting up.
it does that "i want to start" thing but doesn't.
hoping it'll start up easier for me soon.

coryseiber
04-20-2015, 02:22 PM
another issue that I've found is that it won't stay in neutral unless I'm putting pressure on the shifter.

what would be causing that?
fix for it?

coryseiber
04-21-2015, 12:50 PM
looks like a new carb/good rebuild is in order. at least i think so.
I've gotten it started but it won't idle. and when I'm on the throttle it will bog down a bit.
but i know nothing about that stuff, so ill buy a carb. then maybe try to rebuild the one
that is on it for a back up.

any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

yaegerb
04-21-2015, 01:10 PM
Once you receive the carb, I will walk you through the tuning process.

coryseiber
04-21-2015, 02:12 PM
sweet.
taking the other carb off I've noticed a lot of little things that I'm gonna need to get.
I've found a "on/off" switch on ebay for pretty cheap. thats my next find. then ill
just ride it with no brakes. not smart i know.

Jmoozy27
04-22-2015, 11:02 AM
Check out the thread below for brake replacement:

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/65970-brake-caliper-swaps-for-83-85-200x-s

I'm not Dr. Safety, but if you do ride without brakes just take it easy and try to keep it on flat ground. For less than $100 dollars you can upgrade your brakes. It's easier to haul @$$ when you know you can stop!!! Good luck with the build. :lock:

coryseiber
04-23-2015, 01:03 PM
ill take it easy for sure. i know the importance of stopping. just anxious to ride it, and now low on funds to fix them.
this is becoming more of a project then i originally thought.

thanks for that link, i couldn't find anything like that.

86125m
04-23-2015, 02:45 PM
They always become bigger projects when they get inside your shop for two reasons. Once you start to inspect things closely you see a lot of things that have been red necked and that have been broken. The other reason is you want to make the thing look good once its yours.

coryseiber
04-24-2015, 06:04 PM
Was able to take the carb off today. Here's how it looks inside.

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Not sure if that's normal. But it doesn't look real bad. Trying to figure out why it wouldn't idle.
There was also a screw missing from the bottom of the bowl. It definitely leaked from somewhere.
I hope the carb I get from yaeger will do the trick for me.

yaegerb
04-24-2015, 06:36 PM
Pretty dirty and needs a thorough cleaning and rebuild. Your carb is on the way.

coryseiber
04-25-2015, 11:57 AM
I'm pretty much at a stand still till I get that carb. My first priority is getting it running and rideable.

If any other PNW riders read this, shoot me a pm. I tried to post in the Oregon thread but being new I'm not allowed. Which is a bummer. Hard to make connections with people if you can't talk in the local threads.

Jmoozy27
04-25-2015, 02:24 PM
Just be patient, don't give up on the project, or the website. You will be happy with the results. It's just the natural selection process. The real trikers complete projects (eventually) and wait out the grace period. The others go buy quads and sell me their project trikes for $100 or less.:naughty:

coryseiber
04-26-2015, 03:51 AM
I understand the reasoning behind it. Just don't like it lol.
But I won't be giving up on the project. I need a project to do. An outlet really.
I've found a lot on here already. ��

coryseiber
05-04-2015, 07:26 PM
Got the carb installed. Fired right up but seemed it was at full throttle, when I hit the throttle it bogged down a bit. I know nothing about carbs so I'll be relying on members here :rolleyes: and I definitely need to get a on off switch. I had to put my hand over the carb intake to turn her off.

yaegerb
05-04-2015, 08:52 PM
Have you checked for air leaks? Take a can of carb cleaner and spray around the carb to intake and intake to head. If the bike starts to sputter then you have an air leak. Also turn the idle screw down (screw it out). Also need to check your throttle cable. Make sure that it is adjusted so the slide is seated all the way down in the carb.

coryseiber
05-04-2015, 09:31 PM
Ok. I'll grab a can of that tonight and see if that happens.

Remember. I know nothing about carbs. Which one is the idle screw?

yaegerb
05-04-2015, 09:33 PM
The one on the side of the carb, don't touch the one on the front just yet

yaegerb
05-04-2015, 09:35 PM
Just sent you a PM

coryseiber
05-04-2015, 11:38 PM
replied and noted.

Got it running from your hints stated up there.
Hell of a good ol time. But crazy with no brakes or kill switch. That'll be my next order of business.

fullchoke
05-06-2015, 07:00 PM
replied and noted.

Got it running from your hints stated up there.
Hell of a good ol time. But crazy with no brakes or kill switch. That'll be my next order of business.

I hate it when someone does't take care of their machine and takes advantage of the buyer when they sell it. I think you probably overpaid and in doing so baled out the "dirty rat"prior owner. I know I've done the same thing. I bought a little Hodaka with the engine fins super glued on. Good luck with your project.

I'm in oregon too but I'm an old guy new to 3 wheelers and can't help much. Putting in my time in the newb forum too!

coryseiber
05-15-2015, 01:31 PM
It runs and starts up quickly.
But it'll shoot fire out the exhaust a lot. What's that mean? Fix for it?

yaegerb
05-15-2015, 02:06 PM
what does your plug look like and do you have any air leaks at the exhaust manifold?

coryseiber
05-15-2015, 04:48 PM
Plug is pretty dark.
I'll get one of those.
I'll check for air leaks tonight when I get off of work.

yaegerb
05-15-2015, 05:07 PM
check that you have zero air leaks coming out of the exhaust manifold. Cold air entering into the header can cause fire sometimes.

coryseiber
05-18-2015, 12:38 AM
there is a slight leak in the exhaust.

I'm thinking that ill need a rebuild on the engine. not really something I'm confident in doing myself.
or a swap, which i could definitely do myself.