Democrats

[El Camexican]

The Democrats are right, there are two Americas. The America that works and the America that doesn’t. The America that contributes and the America that doesn’t. It’s not the haves and the have not's, it’s the dos and the don’ts. Some people do their duty as Americans, obey the law, support themselves, contribute to society and others don’t. That’s the divide in America .

It’s not about income inequality, it’s about civic irresponsibility. It’s about a political party that preaches hatred, greed and victimization in order to win elective office. It’s about a political party that loves power more than it loves its country.
That’s not invective, that’s truth, and it’s about time someone said it.

The politics of envy was on proud display a couple weeks ago when President Obama pledged the rest of his term to fighting “income inequality.” He noted that some people make more than other people, that some people have higher incomes than others, and he says that’s not just. That is the rationale of thievery.
The other guy has it, you want it, Obama will take it for you. Vote Democrat. That is the philosophy that produced Detroit.
It is the electoral philosophy that is destroying America. It conceals a fundamental deviation from American values and common sense because it ends up not benefiting the people who support it, but a betrayal.

The Democrats have not empowered their followers, they have enslaved them in a culture of dependence and entitlement, of victim-hood and anger instead of ability and hope. The president’s premise – that you reduce income inequality by debasing the successful–seeks to deny the successful the consequences of their choices and spare the unsuccessful the consequences of their choices. Because, by and large, income variations in society are a result of different choices leading to different consequences.
Those who choose wisely and responsibly have a far greater likelihood of success, while those who choose foolishly and irresponsibly have a far greater likelihood of failure.
Success and failure usually manifest themselves in personal and family income. You choose to drop out of high school or to skip college – and you are apt to have a different outcome than someone who gets a diploma and pushes on with purposeful education.
You have your children out of wedlock and life is apt to take one course; you have them within a marriage and life is apt to take another course. Most often in life our destination is determined by the course we take.

My doctor, for example, makes far more than I do. There is significant income inequality between us. Our lives have had an inequality of outcome, but, our lives also have had an in equality of effort. While my doctor went to college and then devoted his young adulthood to medical school and residency, I got a job in a restaurant. He made a choice, I made a choice, and our choices led us to different outcomes. His outcome pays a lot better than mine. Does that mean he cheated and Barack Obama needs to take away his wealth? No, it means we are both free men in a free society where free choices lead to different outcomes.

It is not inequality Barack Obama intends to take away, it is freedom. The freedom to succeed, and the freedom to fail. There is no true option for success if there is no true option for failure. The pursuit of happiness means a whole lot less when you face the punitive hand of government if your pursuit brings you more happiness than the other guy. Even if the other guy sat on his arse and did nothing. Even if the other guy made a lifetime’s worth of asinine and short sighted decisions.

Barack Obama and the Democrats preach equality of outcome as a right, while completely ignoring inequality of effort.
The simple Law of the Harvest – as ye sow, so shall ye reap – is sometimes applied as, “The harder you work, the more you get.”
Obama would turn that upside down. Those who achieve are to be punished as enemies of society and those who fail are to be rewarded as wards of society. Entitlement will replace effort as the key to upward mobility in American society if Barack Obama gets his way. He seeks a lowest common denominator society in which the government besieges the successful and productive to foster equality through mediocrity. He and his party speak of two Americas, and their grip on power is based on using the votes of one to sap the productivity of the other. America is not divided by the differences in our outcomes, it is divided by the differences in our efforts.

It is a false philosophy to say one man’s success comes about unavoidably as the result of another man’s victimization.
What Obama offered was not a solution, but a separatism. He fomented division and strife, pitted one set of Americans against another for his own political benefit. That’s what socialists offer. Marxist class warfare wrapped up with a bow. Two Americas, coming closer each day to proving the truth to Lincoln’s maxim that a house divided against itself cannot stand.
“Life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it.”


Lou Holtz Leo “Lou” Holtz (born January 6, 1937) is a retired American football coach, and active sportscaster, author, and motivational speaker.

[atc007]

I saw this a while back. He s also one hell of a Magician :).. Lou Holtz that is. I'm a Trump guy and not about to apologize for it :)

[kaymo]

SMH...

it always amazes me how much people think it matters who lives in the white house. congress controls the purse strings and the corporations control congress. Money rules this country, and the world... not a secret muslim communist

and its people like trump that send jobs to china, while complaining about how we send jobs to china. We didnt need romney, and trump is no better (probably no worse at least) but the reality is, its NOT about the do's and donts. Its ABSOLUTELY about the haves and the have nots... anyone trying to tell you its not, either already has theirs, or is completely brainwashed and blind.

Income inequality, CEO pay rates, minimum wage vs productivity.... go do some research. will take you two seconds of google searching to figure out that 400 people have 99% of this country's money. I bet you all the money in the world those 400 people didnt make that money busting their ass, working hard and saving up. They made it on the backs of middle class and poverty class americans while they sipped champagne and laughed about us arguing about "welfare" and "food stamps"

stop talking about the darkie in the white house people. if you think hes making all the moves you're just another one of their pawns, the real power holders, the real people that run the world. the bankers and the CEOs. the drug cartels. the impotent enforcers of justice, the police that dont charge anyone but poor folks with crimes. Those are the ones you should be angry about

[83ATC185]

It is in fact the flow of money that controls everything. Not morals or personal goals. A president will never fix this country, and it would be foolish to think that was even possible at this point.
Until all the entitlement seekers' attitudes change, there is nothing anyone can do. The lazy will continue to sit at home all day waiting on the check, and the wealthy will continue to line their pockets as long as there is a free dime floating around. Only when there is nothing left will the cycle end. We can blame this on every facet of our government, starting with our school systems. (minus maybe the post office?)

It's very evident in this country that our two big political parties are no longer about one view or the other. They are fighting for control of us. What can they do or say to get a group of people on their side. Its a bait and switch joke.

And anyone who will sit and listen to billionaires talking about "income equality" and believe what is coming out of their mouth is in the people's best interest is a complete fool.Only a rich person can talk of income inequality. A poor person can never talk of income inequality without switching sides, whether they realize it or not.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

"All hail the recipient"

[Poco Loco]

Dont worry, Obama has our backs. He said so himself. Everything is going to be just fine.......Baaa baaa baaa . (Sheeple sounds)

[Scootertrash]

SMH...

it always amazes me how much people think it matters who lives in the white house. congress controls the purse strings and the corporations control congress. Money rules this country, and the world... not a secret muslim communist

and its people like trump that send jobs to china, while complaining about how we send jobs to china. We didnt need romney, and trump is no better (probably no worse at least) but the reality is, its NOT about the do's and donts. Its ABSOLUTELY about the haves and the have nots... anyone trying to tell you its not, either already has theirs, or is completely brainwashed and blind.

Income inequality, CEO pay rates, minimum wage vs productivity.... go do some research. will take you two seconds of google searching to figure out that 400 people have 99% of this country's money. I bet you all the money in the world those 400 people didnt make that money busting their ass, working hard and saving up. They made it on the backs of middle class and poverty class americans while they sipped champagne and laughed about us arguing about "welfare" and "food stamps"

stop talking about the darkie in the white house people. if you think hes making all the moves you're just another one of their pawns, the real power holders, the real people that run the world. the bankers and the CEOs. the drug cartels. the impotent enforcers of justice, the police that dont charge anyone but poor folks with crimes. Those are the ones you should be angry about


The best thing about your post is the fact that you just spewed every Democrat talking point put forth by every Democrat whose run for office. Every Democrat, every election cycle, every F'n time........

The sad thing is, you actually BELIEVE the filthy rich Democrats who sell you this crap that the filthy rich Republicans are to blame, when the Democrats telling you this are just as rich, and earned their money the same way as the others, and treat their employees just as bad, and sometimes worse, than their counterparts.

AAAANNNnddd.... This is the lamest part of your post:
the police that dont charge anyone but poor folks with crimes

NEWSFLASH!!!! Don't do illegal things that attract the attention of cops and you won't get into trouble with them!!! How's about you name me some po black folks dat been charged wid a crime dey dint commit?

[bkm]

I have a slide rule for wealth/poverty that I use to determine whether or not I charge someone with a crime, and brother.......you better not fall on the poor side of that scale. Also it would help me out a shite ton if you could carry your W2 statement with you because falsifying your chargability scale is punishable by law.

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[Scootertrash]

I have a slide rule for wealth/poverty that I use to determine whether or not I charge someone with a crime, and brother.......you better not fall on the poor side of that scale. Also it would help me out a shite ton if you could carry your W2 statement with you because falsifying your chargability scale is punishable by law.

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Ma bebe din do nuffin!

[Scootertrash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4

[tripledog]

^^^ Bob Hope? Like he has a chance of being elected to public office!

[Mosh]

While I absolutely despise the way the government works these days I just want to point out that entitlement training begins AT HOME with the Parental unit...I see it everyday..30 year olds living at mommy's still sucking on the teet...Mommy and Daddy come pay 26 year old sons car bill..Drop it off pick it up while johnny boy sits in the chair posting on facebook...
When I was 18 it was "gtfo...." even though I worked 2 jobs and went to college.
It was piss poor parenting from my folks but IDGAF cuz I dont ask nobody for nothin..

You wanna change the world? You want people to quit sucking on that swollen teet?

Quit writing blogs about it sucking, and write blogs about changing the culture right in you very own homes and teach your kids to do everything for themselves and lovingly help them when the REALLY need it...If you see your family throwing something at johnnny, to get them out of the way or shut them up..say something...Say it aint right...Dont report that parent backhanding their loud mouth kid at the restaurant. ..Thank them...If that asshole parks like a dickhead and takes up 2 spots or handicap areas or no parking areas...Tell them they are being a inconsiderate jack ass. When that guy cuts in front of you to pay a bill at the restaurant tell him you were next...
I do all these things. I Tell people they are being self serving, absorbed assholes. I Dont even care what they think of me. I give respect and thanks when due and dish out my foot in someones ass when needed equally. I Am not saying start fights with people, but there are numerous ways to point out peoples self absorbed behavior everyday. Idc if I hurt their feelings..Cuz they dont care and dont even know they are putting someone else out..so tell em...
People say you must not have many friends...I don't. I would never want inconsiderate leeches as friends anyway...But the friends I have I can count on....
A old man came up to me at a resturant...Said he lost his wallet and needed gas as they not had enough to get home. He had a nice car his wife was with him, he was well dressed, and I was skeptical he was scamming me..So I gave him 15 bucks. He thanked me and I watched him go right over to the gas station and pump gas. Did I get scammed? Maybe but thats on him now. A van parked on top of my car so tight I couldnt get in the car a few months back, so I left them a napkin note that read " next time you park so close please leave me a can opener so I can cut my way into my trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro car...you inconsiderate pompass ass..have a nice day"..
Is it right? Idk. But I sure feel like I am pointing out peoples rude behavior and it is a start.
Remember this...A man that don't know, don't know, that he don't know...So teach them.

And I am just about convinced Trump is a democraptic implant made to create a circus and undermine the republican ticket and distract from it...

[yaegerb]

While I absolutely despise the way the government works these days I just want to point out that entitlement training begins AT HOME with the Parental unit...I see it everyday..30 year olds living at mommy's still sucking on the teet...Mommy and Daddy come pay 26 year old sons car bill..Drop it off pick it up while johnny boy sits in the chair posting on facebook...
When I was 18 it was "gtfo...." even though I worked 2 jobs and went to college.
It was piss poor parenting from my folks but IDGAF cuz I dont ask nobody for nothin..

You wanna change the world? You want people to quit sucking on that swollen teet?

Quit writing blogs about it sucking, and write blogs about changing the culture right in you very own homes and teach your kids to do everything for themselves and lovingly help them when the REALLY need it...If you see your family throwing something at johnnny, to get them out of the way or shut them up..say something...Say it aint right...Dont report that parent backhanding their loud mouth kid at the restaurant. ..Thank them...If that asshole parks like a dickhead and takes up 2 spots or handicap areas or no parking areas...Tell them they are being a inconsiderate jack ass. When that guy cuts in front of you to pay a bill at the restaurant tell him you were next...
I do all these things. I Tell people they are being self serving, absorbed assholes. I Dont even care what they think of me. I give respect and thanks when due and dish out my foot in someones ass when needed equally. I Am not saying start fights with people, but there are numerous ways to point out peoples self absorbed behavior everyday. Idc if I hurt their feelings..Cuz they dont care and dont even know they are putting someone else out..so tell em...
People say you must not have many friends...I don't. I would never want inconsiderate leeches as friends anyway...But the friends I have I can count on....
A old man came up to me at a resturant...Said he lost his wallet and needed gas as they not had enough to get home. He had a nice car his wife was with him, he was well dressed, and I was skeptical he was scamming me..So I gave him 15 bucks. He thanked me and I watched him go right over to the gas station and pump gas. Did I get scammed? Maybe but thats on him now. A van parked on top of my car so tight I couldnt get in the car a few months back, so I left them a napkin note that read " next time you park so close please leave me a can opener so I can cut my way into my trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro car...you inconsiderate pompass ass..have a nice day"..
Is it right? Idk. But I sure feel like I am pointing out peoples rude behavior and it is a start.
Remember this...A man that don't know, don't know, that he don't know...So teach them.

And I am just about convinced Trump is a democraptic implant made to create a circus and undermine the republican ticket and distract from it...


.......A-f'n-men

[knappyfeet]

I like Trump

[Jmoozy27]

SMH...

it always amazes me how much people think it matters who lives in the white house. congress controls the purse strings and the corporations control congress. Money rules this country, and the world... not a secret muslim communist

and its people like trump that send jobs to china, while complaining about how we send jobs to china. We didnt need romney, and trump is no better (probably no worse at least) but the reality is, its NOT about the do's and donts. Its ABSOLUTELY about the haves and the have nots... anyone trying to tell you its not, either already has theirs, or is completely brainwashed and blind.

Income inequality, CEO pay rates, minimum wage vs productivity.... go do some research. will take you two seconds of google searching to figure out that 400 people have 99% of this country's money. I bet you all the money in the world those 400 people didnt make that money busting their ass, working hard and saving up. They made it on the backs of middle class and poverty class americans while they sipped champagne and laughed about us arguing about "welfare" and "food stamps"

stop talking about the darkie in the white house people. if you think hes making all the moves you're just another one of their pawns, the real power holders, the real people that run the world. the bankers and the CEOs. the drug cartels. the impotent enforcers of justice, the police that dont charge anyone but poor folks with crimes. Those are the ones you should be angry about

It's quite clear that you have been trained well. There is just way to much for me to put into words here.

[Dirtcrasher]

Trump, tired of lying politicians.

This country needs help, BADLY.....

OBAMA is on vacation this weekend so he probably won't reply

Can we just give a business man a shot?

Or do we want more idiots wanting to make a name for themselves?. Trump has already done that; This just frosts the cake!

[Scootertrash]

^^^ Bob Hope? Like he has a chance of being elected to public office!


Why not? The Dems LOVE dead voters!!! Give 'em someone dead to vote for! :lol:

[tripledog]

I like Trump

So you're the one...

[El Camexican]

And I am just about convinced Trump is a democratic implant made to create a circus and undermine the republican ticket and distract from it...

It's what makes the most sense so far. He's always thrown his hat in the ring to give his ego a hard-on, but this time is different. Him going independent is the only way another democrat moves into the WH. If he truly gives a sh*t about America he'll throw his backing behind whoever gets the nod. Unless of course he gets on the GOP ticket.

[bkm]

It doesn't really matter how strong any of the GOP candidates are. When one party is allowed to import voters, you can pretty much kiss it goodbye.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Word is getting out on what some would call "mainstream media" that Hillary the Hun and her campaign are in serious trouble over the email purge. Let's hope justice is served and it results in her being held fully accountable... But I'm not holding my breath mind you... She IS after all, a Clinton... even if only by marriage... Curious though, will she take the fall if it is unavoidable?? Or will she roll over on BHO??? I cannot fathom how he would not be aware of the goings-on from that day in Benghazi from the very start of it all....He does play alot of golf and go on alot of vacations though....

This is one instance I think social media has been helpful. It's my opinion that it has played a role in forcing attention to the cover up

[atc007]

Trump,has "talked" before, Never ran, testing waters, TRYING to get politics slightly cleaner with his presence,,,,lmao,,,. Now, he is serious. Lets see, what has he already got DONE? Illegals are shaking in their shoes. Hilary,for the first time since murdering Vince Foster, actually has a slight concern,she MAY actually get caught this time. Flags went half staff for slaughtered Marines. Something I personally take very damn serious. Political ploy, No I don't think so, even if it was? He DID IT> The sit room at the White house is watching his every cue, hoping,,,surely not praying,unless to ala,,,To not have to follow his ideas. Sorry boys, that aint posturing, THAT is REAL. Not since H Ross Pero have I been this excited about any politics. If Trump goes away tomorrow, he has done more for this country in a month, than anyone has in a term. And the people saying he can't be a president, can't manage the people or foreign policy. Are you fn serious!! Lol.. The man has had hundreds of thousands of people work for him. He knows how to manage.

[Poco Loco]

So you're the one...

And I'm the other guy that likes him. I also like Dr.Ben Carson too. My 1st choice is the Trumpster. Non PC and aint afraid to double down on his sheit. This is all new in politics and I dig it. He says what the majority thinks. The poll numbers show it. The media is flabbergasted over his climbing numbers after he kicks the hornets netst time and time again.

Yes folks, we are witnessing the real mover and shaker here. He is here to be the CEO of our broken f-ed up country. Like someone else said earlier in this thread " even if he doesnt win he did more for this country than any other politician has " Well something to that effect anyway.

Ya go ahead and make fun of the guy and his ego and hair and bla bla bla. I think he's got YOU guys worried a bit and a whole lotta others too.

I hope he rides that wave all the way to the white house !

[ironchop]

Mosh nailed it. I also think he's a plant...he once funded hillary...remember the Dem PACs that were also funding the tea party independent running against the Republican Virginia governor in that race?

They have admitted such tom foolery but it got nary a nod on the lamestream media

I agree with Poco in that Trump scares both sides because he says what everyone else is afraid to say and they know a guy like Trump CAN win what they have damn near made tamper proof...a monopoly on power with its fake two party facade and false sense of freedom and representation....because he has loot and connections too. All of them are terrified...plus I too like Carson but put him above the rest. My hometown boy Paul started smoking crack or something

Edit to add: I did think that Megan Kelly was intentionally sending more venom and loaded questions to Trump than anyone else. Sadly, the 'Right wing News' is just as biased as Candy Crowley and the Left wing news when it comes to 'moderating' an 'objective' 'debate'


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[Jmoozy27]

Ben Carson is a fuggin genius, and DT has the funds to bring it. Those 2 would smoke the commies. Nonetheless whoever gets the nod to rise against our domestic evil regime needs to recruit the runner ups to join the team to assist in operation freedom re-jack-move. There is a lot of good guys out there who can help, and I don't mean doughy biscuit-boy Bush.

Rand "cotton-hair" Paul - good views, and everything his dad is but better spoken.

Marco "baby-faced" Rubio - hes Latino, need I say more?

Ted "el camexican 2" Cruz - Rock solid conservative who doesn't budge for commies.

There is also a chick that seems solid but I cannot pronounce her name. So I am not willing to try and spell it, but I think it starts with an "F".

TO CONCLUDE THIS PASSAGE: It will take twice as much good to overcome the evil that has plagued our land. We must put aside the petty and focus on what really matters. If this cannot be accomplished.... Then join me in the swamp...

COONASS COALITION!!!!:beer

[tripledog]

I have to admit, Trump has the ability to shake things up, this thread serves as evidence to support that statement. I am not politically literate, but I also have to admit Trump raises some interesting points. I often shop at a market (name not important) where one of the cashiers is, shall we say, not American. She is less than friendly to me most of the time, and I don't know why. She rips the money out of my hands, and practically throws my change back at me. She is kind of like the "Soup Nazi" on Seinfeld, only with teets and a thicker mustache. It has gotten to the point where I try to have exact change, or if the change is less than 10 cents, I ask her to please leave it in the dish on the register (rather than have it thrown at me). Last night I asked her to "please leave the" and that is as far as I got before she cut me off with a very snarky and insincere "Have a nice evening". I don't appreciate being treated like a second class citizen in my own country by a foreign cashier with an attitude, and likely a camel that is double parked outside.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

^^^At the risk of derailing the thread, which is not my intent..I would take my business elsewhere^^^

[El Camexican]

I'm living out of a suitcase this week, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard that Trump said that aside from kicking out all the illegals he'd also deport anyone born in the US to illegal parents???

[bkm]

I think he mentioned that if the parents are here illegally, then that should disqualify the children born here from obtaining citizenship, and therefore also disqulify their parents from obtaining it by proxy.

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[tripledog]

I'm living out of a suitcase this week, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard that Trump said that aside from kicking out all the illegals he'd also deport anyone born in the US to illegal parents???

I heard that too. I think his plan is to float all illegals back to their country of origin on Rosie O'Donell's back; or did I confuse that with another one of Trump's rants? On a more serious note, we all know what a politician (or aspiring politician) says they will do, what they have the capability to do, and what they ACTUALLY do are usually 3 different things.

[Mr. Clean]

Here ya go guy living out of a suitcase :)

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2015/08/17/trump-proposes-denying-citizenship-to-natural-born-children-of-illegals-14th-amendment-says-otherwise/

[knappyfeet]

I'm living out of a suitcase this week, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard that Trump said that aside from kicking out all the illegals he'd also deport anyone born in the US to illegal parents???


It's the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment.......commonly referred to as the "anchor baby" law. By removing the Birthright Clause ..........babies born to "not" American citizens or folks here legally will not be considered automatic citizens.

of all the hooplah about walls, moats, drones, more border manpower.........this one aspect of Trumps plan can single handedly have the greatest effect on illegal immigration since the 1920s.

Only Trump

[Scootertrash]

I'm living out of a suitcase this week, can anyone confirm the rumor I heard that Trump said that aside from kicking out all the illegals he'd also deport anyone born in the US to illegal parents???

FULL DISCLOSURE: I lifted this from another forum I frequent. I have not verified it's authenticity as of yet, but I'm sure it can be found with google if one were to try. ;)

The three core principles of Donald J. Trump's immigration plan

When politicians talk about “immigration reform” they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.

Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors. We are the only country in the world whose immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own. That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration reform:

1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.

Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have been particularly harmed.

The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old women’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.

Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).

In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.

The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.

Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.



Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The following steps will return to the American people the safety of their laws, which politicians have stolen from them:



Triple the number of ICE officers. As the President of the ICE Officers’ Council explained in Congressional testimony: “Only approximately 5,000 officers and agents within ICE perform the lion’s share of ICE’s immigration mission…Compare that to the Los Angeles Police Department at approximately 10,000 officers. Approximately 5,000 officers in ICE cover 50 states, Puerto Rico and Guam, and are attempting to enforce immigration law against 11 million illegal aliens already in the interior of the United States. Since 9-11, the U.S. Border Patrol has tripled in size, while ICE’s immigration enforcement arm, Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), has remained at relatively the same size.” This will be funded by accepting the recommendation of the Inspector General for Tax Administration and eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants.

Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans.

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.

Detention—not catch-and-release. Illegal aliens apprehended crossing the border must be detained until they are sent home, no more catch-and-release.

Defund sanctuary cities. Cut-off federal grants to any city which refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement.

Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa. Millions of people come to the United States on temporary visas but refuse to leave, without consequence. This is a threat to national security. Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires should be subject to criminal penalties; this will also help give local jurisdictions the power to hold visa overstays until federal authorities arrive. Completion of a visa tracking system – required by law but blocked by lobbyists – will be necessary as well.

Cooperate with local gang task forces. ICE officers should accompany local police departments conducting raids of violent street gangs like MS-13 and the 18th street gang, which have terrorized the country. All illegal aliens in gangs should be apprehended and deported. Again, quoting Chris Crane: “ICE Officers and Agents are forced to apply the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Directive, not to children in schools, but to adult inmates in jails. If an illegal-alien inmate simply claims eligibility, ICE is forced to release the alien back into the community. This includes serious criminals who have committed felonies, who have assaulted officers, and who prey on children…ICE officers should be required to place detainers on every illegal alien they encounter in jails and prisons, since these aliens not only violated immigration laws, but then went on to engage in activities that led to their arrest by police; ICE officers should be required to issue Notices to Appear to all illegal aliens with criminal convictions, DUI convictions, or a gang affiliation; ICE should be working with any state or local drug or gang task force that asks for such assistance.”

End birthright citizenship. This remains the biggest magnet for illegal immigration. By a 2:1 margin, voters say it’s the wrong policy, including Harry Reid who said “no sane country” would give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.

Put American Workers First

Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class. Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not experienced in generations. As CBS news wrote in a piece entitled “America’s incredible shrinking middle class”: “If the middle-class is the economic backbone of America, then the country is developing osteoporosis.”

The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans – including immigrants themselves and their children – to earn a middle class wage. Nearly half of all immigrants and their US-born children currently live in or near poverty, including more than 60 percent of Hispanic immigrants. Every year, we voluntarily admit another 2 million new immigrants, guest workers, refugees, and dependents, growing our existing all-time historic record population of 42 million immigrants. We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities’ rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream.



Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need to companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.

End welfare abuse. Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S.

Jobs program for inner city youth. The J-1 visa jobs program for foreign youth will be terminated and replaced with a resume bank for inner city youth provided to all corporate subscribers to the J-1 visa program.

Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.

[El Camexican]

I think he mentioned that if the parents are here illegally, then that should disqualify the children born here from obtaining citizenship, and therefore also disqulify their parents from obtaining it by proxy.

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Thanks guys, so it looks like he's proposing to STOP allowing it. The version I heard was that he wants to do it retroactively. That would be a task to sort out.:lol:

[tripledog]

What is next from the "Donald"? Me suspects a war on felines...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ygAMcBjyE

[El Camexican]

How bout Jared from Subway for president

Na, you have to be 18 or over to vote, that's not the crowd he connects with.

[sledcrazyinCT]

I figure this is common sense for many on this site but it is still a good example and worth posting if it changes the mind of one voter who sees the light after reading this:

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

[atctim]

A good read for anyone who wants to educate themselves on the 14th Amendment so they can make most people understand what it actually means VS what the left, and many from the right would have you believe it means. This is from Mark Levin:

Levin said that people are getting the clause wrong, “Because they’re result-oriented. Because they want to insist the Constitution says what it doesn’t say. Moreover, the Supreme Court has never ruled that the children of illegal aliens are American citizens. So the Supreme Court never ruled, even if they did, it would be wrong. The clause speaks for itself, the author of the clause made it abundantly, unequivocally clear, let’s add another thing, let’s read the clause (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv) together, shall we? ‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States.’ Let’s stop there. If it means what the proponents of birthright citizenship say, it would stop right there. ‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States’ are citizens. There’s no need for anything else, but that’s what it says. Then it says, and, ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ Now, you have slip and fall lawyers, some phony constitutional lawyers, they have ‘Esquire’ after their name, they come on TV, they go all over the place, ‘Jurisdiction means geography.’ Jurisdiction has nothing to do with geography. zero. It had to do with political allegiance to the United States of America. How do we know it? Because they said it. And they also excluded everybody that the left, and some of the Republicans want to include. Now here’s the good news, there’s another part of the Constitution. It’s Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei). Here’s what that says, in plain English. ‘The Congress shall have power to…establish a uniform rule of naturalization.’ Now, you know what that means, that means Congress, not the courts, not the president, not ICE, it means the United States Congress has the power to regulate immigration in this regard. And guess what, Sean, in the 1920s, that’s exactly what it did. The 14th Amendment excludes Indians, that is Native Americans, as US citizens, because they felt that they had allegiance to their own national tribes. Okay, great, and I believe it was in 1923, Congress reversed course, and said, ‘You know what? Under the 14th Amendment and under this Article I, we’ve decided to grant citizenship, national citizenship to all Native Americans.”
He added, “Of course Trump is right, and Cruz is right, and Sessions is right, they’re all right. And to hear so-called constitutional conservatives trip all over themselves to sound like liberals, to rewrite this provision, and accuse those of us who actually know something about it, know the history about it, know the senators who were involved in it, know what went into it, know what was meant by it, that we’re the activists, that we’re the extremists. Look, if you want of a policy of open borders, that anybody born here should become a United States citizen, you amend the Constitution. We don’t have to amend the Constitution, it says what we say it says, and by statutes, by statute, going forward, prospectively, Congress can, in fact, say, ‘We want to emphasize to this federal government, to this president, no, you cannot make children of illegal aliens American citizens automatically.'”

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Love Mark Levin!

Great post Tim! :beer