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El Camexican
10-22-2015, 06:12 PM
If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for being in the country illegally, you live in a country run by idiots.

If you have to get your parent's permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion, you live in a country run by idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor or check out a library book, but not to vote who runs the government, you live in a country run by idiots.

If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets to the crazy
leaders in Egypt, you live in a country run by idiots.

If, in the largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat, you live in a country run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman can be strip-searched by the TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched, you live in a country run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more, you live in a country run by idiots.

If a seven year old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is cute, but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable, you live in a country run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government intrusion, while not working is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid,
subsidized housing and free cell phones, you live in a country run by idiots.

If the government's plan for getting people back to work is to incentivize NOT working with 99 weeks of unemployment checks and no requirement to prove they applied but cannot find work, you live in a country run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more safe according to the government, you live in a country run by idiots.

If you are offended by any of this, you likely voted for the idiots who run your country.

poolieZerUK
10-22-2015, 07:20 PM
Pretty much the same shite here except we don't have any fighter jets to give away

fieldy
10-22-2015, 10:00 PM
Stupid idiots.

6speedthumper
10-22-2015, 10:37 PM
This says it all!

coolpool
10-24-2015, 12:11 AM
Good point el Cam. We all have our issues. Wait till Canada brings in 25,000 ahem, refugees from Syria without back ground checks into Canada before Christmas. Thanks effing Liberal government. Anyone ever wonder why it's mostly fighting age men that are coming over and not the old or women and children? If the US doesn't think we are a conduit for terrorists now this should clinch it. We are slowly and deliberately getting taken over without a shot being fired, frigging BS. Before anyone calls me a racist I was in Syria and Israel at the end of the Gulf War; nuff said.

El Camexican
10-24-2015, 05:34 PM
Thanks effing Liberal government.

I heard about your election results. Made me even happier about my move South. I'm old enough to have despised his father and I can't imagine what kind of a mess you'll have up there when he's done with you. Sadly most of my aunts, uncles and cousins have swung from right to left during the past decade. Aside from my immediate family I suspect everyone I share DNA with voted red this time around. Even more embarrassing is that my youngest cousin likely will head the Saskatchewan NDP one day. My grandparents would spin in their graves if they could see what it's all come to.

ironchop
10-24-2015, 05:53 PM
Bringing terrorists into the country and diluting the population is a way to destroy Nationalism in order to replace it with Globalism.

Americans in the military will not fire on fellow Americans. They asked them. Foreign immigrants with no loyalty or nationalism will, however, fire on American citizens (they think). I suspect its why, despite "downsizing the military", they are running recruiting commercials for three branches nonstop around here en Espaņol. Point to ponder.

You ask yourself why your leaders fill your country with refugees who hate you, your culture, and your way of life. You wonder wtf they would want dangerous ppl in their schools and malls? Because these ppl aren't coming to live in their gated communities. They are infiltrating our neighborhoods and our families are the soft targets.

Why would your own people want to endanger the very ppl they pledged to serve and protect? Because they know you won't tolerate it for very long. Only so many murders and rapes before Americans (or ANY proud citizen of ANY country) fight back. Our Compassion comes with terms. Why would they want turmoil, violence, religious conflict, sexism, racism, and bigotry that comes from the resentment that's building? Because you can't have Control without first having Martial Law. You can't have Martial Law without the convenient excuse of riots and violence in your backyard. You can't have good people trying to kill each other without social manipulation and media control....and you can't do any of this while ppl think they have a Constitution. You need to convince them that the Iron Fist of house to house confiscation that comes from Martial Law is necessary to save and protect them from jihadi boogeymen hellbent on "terror" because "they hate your freedoms", gangs of ethnic groups whuc naturally form in times of stress for protection, the criminal, and the desperate to feed their kids.

You also can't have a global digital currency without first destroying the economies of the entire planet one at a time with massive debt, inflation, speculation, and manipulation of the precious metals market. Once the people lose all their savings and investments, they will beg for a new, better currency that protects them via The Government.


This plot was all written long ago.

No, not evil Zionists....just a bunch of arrogant dick wads so full of themselves that they honestly believe they are better than you and therefore the authority and they are "helping" you. Of course they get first dibs on the resources because they know better than we. Altruistic Psychopaths.

Read about NATO and Agenda 21 if you think I'm nuts. They are neither shy nor hiding it.


Americans are the most armed citizenry on the planet. They knew upfront that trickery, deception, false flags as well as brute force would be necessary to take down the proverbial Ten Pin. Gun confiscation is coming someday. It will never be successful. Only fools believe that Prohibition of anything will ever be anything other than an infinite battle and a tremendous waste of time and money.

We will probably get hit with a global economic meltdown causing famine and fueling violence. Enter Stage Right an EMP from an Iranian warhead screwed to an American rocket signed by John McCain because "They hate your freedoms". All electric grid, cars, banking, and internet is shut down. Meanwhile gays, blacks, Muslims, and Hispanics recalling that they were told that white straight people hate them and have been stealing their destinies for a thousand years according to Rachel Madcow and her Tampon Lady cohost. Who do you think they are going to want to talk to when the Meltdown made their public assistance checks worthless? Mass violence, riots, murders, robberies, rapes. Your ammo stockpile will only last so long. When you run out, you'll be willing to negotiate peace with the Jackboot Brigade so that the wife and daughter can keep their virtue and catch a ride out of danger on the MRAPP with those brave new Federal Police force Obama promised out loud a few years ago. It will only cost your firearms and your assumed "rights". "What would YOU do?"

Of course, this is all just me thinking out loud. Nothing is permanent.


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coolpool
10-24-2015, 08:16 PM
I heard about your election results. Made me even happier about my move South. I'm old enough to have despised his father and I can't imagine what kind of a mess you'll have up there when he's done with you. Sadly most of my aunts, uncles and cousins have swung from right to left during the past decade. Aside from my immediate family I suspect everyone I share DNA with voted red this time around. Even more embarrassing is that my youngest cousin likely will head the Saskatchewan NDP one day. My grandparents would spin in their graves if they could see what it's all come to.

And to make matters worse Alberta has an NDP government!!!!!! WTF? Rachael Notley (Notley's Crew) has already raised my provincial income tax 5% and there's more to come. Any room in the US for a disgruntled Canuck?

fieldy
10-24-2015, 11:05 PM
Sounding right on..... It's plain as everything's a lie.
I feel we will see a day that you will have to be armed at all times wherever you are. I know of several times our family and friends have felt (you all know what I'm talking about) or been (yep) threatened and would have been jumped and killed if not for superior intelligence plus our own. Chaos in the making.....highway robbery, ever hear about that? It’s here on American interstates, mexico style. Scaring you soon at 5. Here's what's on the news tonight and tomorrow night, heroin, yes heroin and armed men rush cash register then burst into home. Violence, cash, heroin, guns, weather, sports.
These days people look at you like your a piece of meat if you have shoes.
Taxes.....they are gonna tax the ship out of anyone with sociatal value. What do these politicians do for any of us? THEY SMILE, WAVE, VISIT, LOOK, EAT AND SHOP, THAT'S ALL THEY FN DO THESE DAYS. They never promoted being a politician in our high school, be ā politician, vacation job. I guess the teachers didnt promote lying for a livin. We should all be so proud of our seven day a week elaborate breakfast, lunįh and dinner eating, champaign drinking, scissor using politicians. Boy they sure know how to help themselves, seven days a week, so they can better help you. What they do...when they get on stage to fumble words and say americans and America so there can be clapping and cheering every chance there is to do that, they they can make some lie up that sounds good but they dont have any intention of remembering that, they are after applause so they can get dinner power. You can know damn well they've done nothing for your family or theirs, other than earning wealth, unless your family is from another country or doesn't work. Ok, debate is over, they better make it to that very important dinner meeting and get in touch with their fellow Americans. They better go visit that factory and smile so they can make it to lunch.They have weekend off to go shopping till Monday morning where they are I'm not sure, really not sure if they work Monday or any day. Like they eat a lot and go visit stuff, we call that a vacation. As long as they can wipe their butt, they are working miracles.
We already know this stuff, just sick of it. Deteriation of things.
Welcome to the American jungle, it gets worse here everyday...why, democrats?

83ATC185
10-26-2015, 09:40 AM
I think El Camexican's post sums up everything wrong with this country, in a nutshell.

However i don't think they are idiots, far from it. They are very smart compared to the general population, they know how to get what they want and it's not freedom. America has only been around for 240 years and we've already given up a lot of our personal freedoms.

I heard on the radio this morning, how people are saying the phrase "politically correct" is now "politically incorrect" and the phrase "third world" is now offensive because it implies that we are better than a lot of countries. Guess what people, we are better than a lot of other countries! That's why this country was founded. To be more free than any other country in the world. And if we don't change our attitude it will surely become like any other country in the world.

It's all part of the plan. Get people dependent on the system, spoil them, make them feel like there is no other way to survive, give them the opportunity to vote away freedoms for a "sailfone" and food stamps that they literally can no longer live without because they don't know how, make life difficult for those of us with pride and integrity, get more people on the system, demoralize the general population.

The problem i see is that half the armed population will be leeches on the system and no longer on our side when the time comes. Will they give up their only resource to fight against the very people that give them their way of life? i really hate to think what the answer to that question is. We've already seen what happens when a criminal dies "unjustly" i can only imagine what will happen when they threaten to cut off the EBT if they don't turn in their guns, maybe it will start as a "rewards program" trade your guns for EBT money, then gradually make it mandatory as our country has a tendency to do.

I was just reading this morning about the test cities for Obama's new federal police force. Then i read this sad article 10 minutes later that really speaks volumes on the depravity of the people up there. Birmingham is one of those test cities.
And here they are begging for someone to fix their problems.

http://abc3340.com/news/local/birmingham-residents-fed-up-with-recent-crime-activity

Jmoozy27
10-26-2015, 11:59 PM
It's vintage g-orge or well, 1984 in a nutshell. You erase the history of strength, change the language by punishing the use of certain words, and you kill off the elderly wisdom with poor healthcare. Before long, no one will remember the great nation that used to be.

Look around you, no one cares about the direction that the country is moving. If they do, doing something about it isn't a high priority. We need to wake up as it is likely too late already. The worst possible scenario that we can fathom is nothing compared to what is to come.

ironchop
10-27-2015, 09:31 AM
anyone else read books?

my current read: The Creature from Jekyll Island

its a story of how the Federal Reserve bank was created, why, and by whom....without that pesky spin that exists on a lot of documentaries today.

Truly an eye opener. If you ever wondered wtf is up with our financial system and why it seems to be riddled with boo-sh!t. Its because it`s all a massive scam which benefits the upper echelon of our Economy......No, Redsox, it doesn`t bash successful Capitalists so you wont be offended. Lol...they are getting scammed as much as the labor class by these globalists.

This book gave me the peace of mind knowing that I`m not going crazy while trying to figure out why, @ Federal Reserve, 2+2=7. No, its not that new math or Common Whore or low batteries in your calculator. It`s an honest-to-god scam filled with fake currency, fake interest, fake "derivatives", and fake debt and it was all perpetrated as a way to make trillions upon trillons in interest and derivatives off of loaning out counterfeit ("fiat" is the fancy word for fake) currency.

If you or I were to Xerox $350 in fake bills and then loan them out to make interest and to purchase tangibles and to invest, we would be locked up in a federal prison for 30 years. When the Federal reserve Bank (whom is NOT a government-controlled or owned entity...look it up) does this, it`s called "quantitative easing" and its somehow perfectly legal.

When you go down to the bank to get a mortgage or a home equity loan to pay off your credit cards, you don`t get to take that loan out in your neighbor`s name, without his express permission, and put him on the hook for both the payments AND the risk while you enjoy the fruits of his labors as they were your own just like your government does to you nearly every week now. Thats called Fraud, Theft, and Forgery but you tolerate these very same practices from our politicians and our "central bank" and we all pretend they aren't criminals and con artists because NFL, DWTS, NCAA, GOT, HALO3, and the Walking Dead are all on television right now and if I don`t find out what happed to Jon Snow or Kim Wolciak (?) well then I will absolutely die.

The older I get, the more I m convinced that there are a very large number of "Americans" whom don`t deserve Liberty of ANY kind and should be promptly thrown out of the country when the time comes for a reset

wouldn`t you love to be Morgan or Chase? You setup an office or storefront, Xerox off a bunch of fake product (currency), and then sell, trade, invest, and loan out that fake and free product and if it all collapses? BAILOUT. No risk for you at all. It`s the perfect business! No inventory costs, only administrative costs. No chance to go to jail because you can`t arrest a company for Fraud. It`s inanimate and if it`s setup correctly, the humans running the scam are protected from civil or criminal actions by the State.

you pay all your expenses in fake fiat currency you just printed. Technically, it doesn`t cost you a thing but the time it takes to print off 1.5 million every 6 minutes.

ironchop
10-27-2015, 05:14 PM
It's vintage g-orge or well, 1984 in a nutshell. You erase the history of strength, change the language by punishing the use of certain words, and you kill off the elderly wisdom with poor healthcare. Before long, no one will remember the great nation that used to be..

I agree but would also add that there are just as many parallels to Huxley`s Brave New World as there are to Orwell`s 1984 if not more

the main Huxley parallel to today`s society being that in 1984, the people were in the middle of being indoctrinated and manipulated whereas with BNW, Huxley`s "people" do not need to be threatened in order to control them. They have been bred for stupidity and have been thouroughly brainwashed long ago into believing that there was no more reason for books or any high culture or any active learning (they learned during sleep rather than in consciousness). They WANTED to be stupid cattle whereas in `84 those characters had to be threatened into compliance. This is why I think Huxley is closer than Orwell to today`s society. Today`s American Society is driven by Consumerism, Nihilism, and Hedonism just as in Huxley`s Brave New World.

drink your Soma and have an orgy....recreational sex is good

jb2wheels
10-27-2015, 06:08 PM
... If you are offended by any of this, you likely voted for the idiots who run your country. [/I]

Offended - no.
Pissed off - yes.

El Camexican
10-27-2015, 06:54 PM
14 yrs ago i became AWARE .......when i watched the buildings fall strait down at free fall speed . I continued to finish my Career and have had time to think of what i`d do to correct the situation ! IT`s a military shut down of the gov. by and for the people a complete restructure and a cash based economy until it`s resolved ! One step forward.......two steps back !.......nobody wants it but thats what has to happen or you`re just lying to yourself !....sorry !

Two words, Tax Revolt. Stop paying for your pain and you might get them to listen. They can't put you all in jail.

PS. I hope no one thinks I wrote the first post, it came to me in an email. I'm not smart enough to write that.

Jmoozy27
10-27-2015, 06:59 PM
Animal farm, read it before 1984... It's a good warm up...

El Camexican
10-27-2015, 07:02 PM
Animal farm, read it before 1984... It's a good warm up...

I love that book. Read it to my kid as a bedtime story when she was 8. Something went wrong since. She didn't like Obama, but now she thinks Bernie Sanders should be President of the US. I may have to get a new daughter.

ironchop
10-27-2015, 08:21 PM
Everyone loves Socialism. All the way up until they learn two very fundamental things about human nature:

1) No two people put equal effort into any task no matter how simple. Someone will always try harder than someone else and this is where notions of 'equality' fail from jump. Hard to have equality when some folks don't give a damn to work for it. Anyone who has ever been a manager in business understands this. No amount of guilt or shame will move some people. I'm not talking about ability. I'm talking exclusively about inclination..this brings me to number two.

2) even the inclined folks will only work hard for so long running on positive verbal reinforcement alone before they are either going to require some sort of reward system of more than an "attaboy" from the Mother Land for their sweat and toil or they are going to vastly reduce their own productivity to match that of everyone else....de-evolution...how quaint. A very similar example has been flying in the collective face of the Left for a very long time but they refuse to acknowledge this truth. What you end up with is a Collective of Mediocrity if you're lucky and a failed Communist Nation State if you're not. I'll suggest the quality of Russian and Chinese hardware produced during the cold war as an example of what your GDP physically looks like when your labor force gives no F@#$KS about their assigned jobs.

I wouldn't worry about your kid, Nico, and I'm sure you aren't. Theres nothing wrong with children liking Santa Claus. Its the grown adults who vote for him for political office that chaps my ass.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need is the Communist mantra. The inconvenient part is whom determines someone else's ability or someone's need?.....better yet , who is going to pay for all this equality? Its funny to me when trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro Americans think that you can have all the trappings and whizzbangs of good old American Consumerism while partaking in European Socialism or Communism....because that sh!t just falls off trees, right?

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atc300r
10-27-2015, 08:31 PM
No matter who runs for pres they are all going to get TRUMPED lol. There is a good video on youtube that shows how socializim doesn't work it has characters of Bushes ,Reagan , Dillary and Billary Clinton and Obumer. If I can find it I will post it.

ironchop
10-27-2015, 08:44 PM
Where does Soylent Green fit in?



Also, Metropolis and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari we produced before BNW and 1984 were published. I'd be interested in if either author seen those films and if they were influenced by them.
That's what they turn dissidents into after they round them up...toss them into the giant blender and voilā.... yum yum soylent green....with soma for desert

I LOVED Metropolis (film). Reminded me of a precursor to the old Flash Gordon episodes.

Interesting question on that subject Clint. I'm going to go look that up.


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nd4speed
10-28-2015, 06:57 AM
metropolis- classic dystopian flick.

And you all can't get a jury of your peers because a dozen common people might agree with your common sense.

Oh and I find all the double speak I am hearing come out of the media and being regurgitated very disturbing and unbelievable.
1984. A lot of computer acts were passed that year, more than ever before. Most regarded peoples' personal data and who could access what computers. That book about the screens in every home that spy on you and are all connected together to send and receive communications. Clearly Orwell was very keen on how the technology of radio, telephone, and televsion would be used in the future.

RIDE-RED 250r
10-28-2015, 07:50 AM
And to make matters worse Alberta has an NDP government!!!!!! WTF? Rachael Notley (Notley's Crew) has already raised my provincial income tax 5% and there's more to come. Any room in the US for a disgruntled Canuck?


I would love to say "come on down" Coolpool, but the truth is, we are on the same path, just a little behind...

Maybe we should have a joint rebellion with our good friends to the north?? Eh?? :beer

And once again I have to say, the level of intelligence, awareness, and ability to make solid points in well spoken ways I see here on a board full of a bunch of 3-wheeler nuts is still pleasantly amazing to me... I'll have to make TF soon, even if only to speak on these subjects with you guys face to face around a campfire. :beer

Y'all are good respectable folks, and I would be proud to march into oblivion with any of you!