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Jethead
01-05-2016, 11:16 AM
Glamis rider, 85 250r. Stock tires are worn---so time for new shoes. Was thinking about paddles but with my riding style decided to stick to knobbies.
To forum: Best knobby for sand??? Logic tells me to look for a tight tread pattern---more knobs grab more sand--better traction. But, I've read some posts that suggest the opposite---more open tread pattern--allows tire to float and clean sand out. Anyone have experience riding dunes with both tread patterns??
Tires I'm considering: ITP Holeshot GNCC, Maxxis Razr 2, Duro Hook-up Radial.
The Duro has the most open tread pattern. The Maxxis looks to be less rounded. The ITP looks to be a combo of the other 2.
Others I should consider??

Marty
01-05-2016, 12:46 PM
A few weeks ago I took all my knobbies to Glamis to buff tires to look new again and glad i did not ride more than what i had too on knobbies.
But this was my experience with knobbies you are revving engine more than you have too so just be careful not to wind up to moon but if you must ride with knobby tires just make sure you get good head start and get some momentum going so you don't over rev that engine good luck, Mike.

Mr. Clean
01-05-2016, 06:59 PM
I like the radial tire Ohtsu MR501. The TRX 450R's also have a similar tread pattern in the Dunlop brand. I also prefer knobs to paddles it suits my style of riding as well.

Here is some footage from Billy Golightly following me running knobs back in 2011.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPQPEB1q5rA

Jethead
01-05-2016, 07:43 PM
Cool video--my kinda riding. I've searched for the Ohstu and didn't find any. Can you still get them? New? If not, what's the closest tire you can buy new?
Was the video around Gordon's Well? I've not ridden there. Looks like good riding area.

x-rider
01-05-2016, 10:15 PM
I had good luck with my ITP Mud Lites when my bike was running.225801

Silver Bullet I
01-05-2016, 10:41 PM
Great video!

jb2wheels
01-06-2016, 10:04 AM
I like the stock 250R knobbies in either Dunlop or Ohtsu brand but neither are available new.

They are reproduced now: http://www.hpcheetahtires.com/tires.html

I remember we ran the Armstrong dimple knobbies alot back in the 80s. I can't find a 20x10x9 size thought. Looks like Wanda makes some and I believe many others (Hi-Run?). Probably all come off the same production line in China...

Mr. Clean
01-06-2016, 12:52 PM
Great video!

Thanks!! We have this group ride every year at Gordons Well. It is open to anyone and starts on the 29th of February.


Cool video--my kinda riding. I've searched for the Ohstu and didn't find any. Can you still get them? New? If not, what's the closest tire you can buy new?
Was the video around Gordon's Well? I've not ridden there. Looks like good riding area.

I see the 501's pop up on EBAY, they are a little pricey but worth it in my opinion. I would also suggest contacting your local Honda dealer and ask for 400ex or 450r rear tires in the model and have them search. I have been able to get the front 10 inch tire for custom made 10 rims for ATC's as they are still available.

Yes that is Gordons Well, it is some of the best riding in the US.

Jethead
01-06-2016, 01:22 PM
Thanks everyone for the good info.
I'm also considering rims. Would you suggest offsets for duning? 3+5?? More or less?
Looking at the Douglass .125 Aluminum??

Mr. Clean
01-06-2016, 01:51 PM
Thanks everyone for the good info.
I'm also considering rims. Would you suggest offsets for duning? 3+5?? More or less?
Looking at the Douglass .125 Aluminum??

I would stick with the 3+5, no need for crazy offset. If you want to go wider get an axle. I prefer the .190 Douglas rim, or the OEM style rim. I would not worry about the minimal extra weight with the thicker Douglas rim.

Here is my 85.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/miked1957_photo/DSC_5045_zpsc46da303.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/miked1957_photo/media/DSC_5045_zpsc46da303.jpg.html)

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/miked1957_photo/DSC_5043_zps9d9431dc.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/miked1957_photo/media/DSC_5043_zps9d9431dc.jpg.html)

Silver Bullet I
01-06-2016, 02:40 PM
[QUOTE=Mr. Clean;1395192]Thanks!! We have this group ride every year at Gordons Well. It is open to anyone and starts on the 29th of February.



I think I'm going to try to make it for a couple days this year, it will be the first time riding a 3 wheeler in the dunes since the mid 80's.

Jethead
01-07-2016, 12:59 AM
Mr. Clean---sweet looking R. Are you running the stock rear shock? Mine bottoms out---is it difficult to get them rebuilt?
I may have to put that Feb 29 trip on my schedule and see if i can make it happen.

Mr. Clean
01-07-2016, 07:53 PM
Mr. Clean---sweet looking R. Are you running the stock rear shock? Mine bottoms out---is it difficult to get them rebuilt?
I may have to put that Feb 29 trip on my schedule and see if i can make it happen.

It would be great to see more folks join the ride, its a good time and you will see quite a few VERY nice trikes.

So far as the shock, you have a few options. You can get them rebuilt, there are quite a few places you can send them that have been in business for a while all over the country. Some google searches will give you quite a bit of information. There are also individuals on this site who rebuild them as well (do a search), and you probably have some local places, most motorsports shops can do the work. You can also buy them off EBAY as well, as you may know you can buy almost anything on EBAY. Prices will vary I am sure.