Welding 101

[3 Wheel Drive]

I want to buy a small welder to learn at home. I have never welded anything at all, besides JB weld. There are many Lincoln welders on Craigslist that have my interest.

My primary use will be small projects like working on my cars, welding exhaust, sub frame connectors, basic sheet metal if I can do it myself.

Ive been looking at the Lincoln Mig Welder model 180c:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5417064013.html
The 180c included the large gas bottle & stand, 1,000 total.

And a few smaller welders for less $$$.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/tls/5422344434.html
This one is $350 & another $100 I will get a full bottle of Mig mix gas & roll of flux core.

https://wenatchee.craigslist.org/tls/5365793349.html
This includes a cart, no bottle, & looks light duty.

Are there any other brands of welders in the 400-1000 price range that I should consider? I like the 180c because it can weld thicker steel. Has anyone here used this model?

I have a Honda generator with an RV output female connection, will the Lincoln plug in my Honda?
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[shovelryder]

Your genny is a 120v....That lincoln is I think a 220-240v.......Thats a nice welder. Id get a 240 for sure and use gas.

[RUNMEDOWN]

I just went through a few months of research to choose a garage welder, I ended up with a Hobart Handler 125. Its only a 120v but I read a lot of good reviews. Spend some time looking for your perfect fit, spend a little more than you want to get a good one, Welders hold value so you can always sell it if you don't like it. You can always get a 220v extension cord and run it off the plug for your clothes dryer (NOT wife approved) if you decide on the 220v one.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I'm sorta leaning towards the Lincoln 140, since the price is pretty low.
I offered him 420.00 for his welder & full bottle of gas. He accepted, it seems good to me.
Plus I can be mobile with my genarator.



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[90nut]

There's guys that like red welders and guys that like blue ones. (Lincoln and miller) I've been a blue guy, just because it's what my uncle has always used and he's a professional welder and fabricator. But anyways, I have always had a Miller 251, it's old been rebuilt, been thru tons of liners, still works great, probably more than you need. I had a Hobart 165 at my small home shop for a couple of years, 220v gas machine. Used it and abused it, welded things that it wasn't made to do with in a pinch. Sold it to a buddy who has had credit for exactly what I paid for it 2 years back. Upgraded to a Hobart iron man 250( I think might e a 230 they changed the numbers on them and I'm not in my garage now) Only reason I bought the iron man is,because it had a higher duty cycle and will weld half inch with ease, and you can stich body panels on also. Love it! But if I have to weld lots of heavy steel I go to our big shop and use the miller.
Long read I know, but I'm over analytical and picky about tools. And yes I'm picky and still run the Hobart. Uncle won't use it but he's worse than me!!

Long a story short, you can't really go wrong if you buy a 220v wire feed gas welder. Be it a red, blue, or white one. Just don't let someone convince you to buy a Clark or horror freight one.

[90nut]

That will work great for body panels. But do yourself a favor and your family if you have one, and put a cap on that tank every time you haul it please. Things can kill you, they take off like rockets! Now get some scrap steel, a helmet, gloves, and burn some wire man. Maybe pick up a welding book at the used book store. I still have mine from when I was on the high school welding team. Have fun!

[El Camexican]

My only complaints about this one is that it's a little heavy to lug up and down the stairs and its a tad wider than the cheap carts they sell on email, so I had to flip the top shelve over and it could fall off if I'm not careful. I figured the 3/8" thick claim would get me a decent weld on 1/4", but it actually does weld 3/8" pretty decent. It welds SS nice too, but I haven't tried aluminum yet.

Gas and 230V is the way to go as mentioned. There are much smaller tanks than that one in the photo if you plan to be carrying it any distance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-MILLERMATIC-211-AUTO-SET-MIG-WELDER-907422-/252267864784?hash=item3abc5622d0:g:9JMAAOSwX~dWlqv W

[barnett468]

I'm sorta leaning towards the Lincoln 140, since the price is pretty low.
I offered him 420.00 for his welder & full bottle of gas. He accepted, it seems good to me.
Plus I can be mobile with my genarator.

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I can't view your photos.

[3 Wheel Drive]

Photos of the $420.00 welding stuff:

http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/sevendcuda/library/?view=recent&page=1

[3 Wheel Drive]

My only complaints about this one is that it's a little heavy to lug up and down the stairs and its a tad wider than the cheap carts they sell on email, so I had to flip the top shelve over and it could fall off if I'm not careful. I figured the 3/8" thick claim would get me a decent weld on 1/4", but it actually does weld 3/8" pretty decent. It welds SS nice too, but I haven't tried aluminum yet.

Gas and 230V is the way to go as mentioned. There are much smaller tanks than that one in the photo if you plan to be carrying it any distance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-MILLERMATIC-211-AUTO-SET-MIG-WELDER-907422-/252267864784?hash=item3abc5622d0:g:9JMAAOSwX~dWlqv W (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5336526073&toolid=10001&mpre=http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-MILLERMATIC-211-AUTO-SET-MIG-WELDER-907422-/252267864784?hash=item3abc5622d0:g:9JMAAOSwX~dWlqv W)


That one looks nice, it uses 110 & 220v. I'm not on a budget either so price is not really a factor. I just don't want to spend too much for my basic needs.

[El Camexican]

That one looks nice, it uses 110 & 220v. I'm not on a budget either so price is not really a factor. I just don't want to spend too much for my basic needs.

I'm showing my age here, but I worked with a 110V Miller Cricket way back when they came out. They were light as a feather and were much easier to carry than 100 yards of heavy gauge welding cable, so that was nice, but they were messy (flux core only) and to weld anything over 1/8" required multiple passes and lots of wire brushing between.

I spoke with 2 friends that have this particular Miller before I bought mine and we are all still very happy with them. Saving $500 and getting a free (stolen?:wondering) bottle is tempting, but the auto setting and the added juice will make it a lot easier to learn to weld.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I just talked to this guy:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/5417064013.html

He will come down to 900.00, lots of guys selling welders on Craigslist. It comes with lots of wire & full bottle of gas & the cap.

[3 Wheel Drive]

Your genny is a 120v....That lincoln is I think a 220-240v.......Thats a nice welder. Id get a 240 for sure and use gas.

I have the companion genarator which is supposed to double the power. I'll have to read the manual to find out for sure. It used wires to connect both genarator for more juice. There very quiet, I can run it for nearly 8 hrs on 1 gallon of fuel.

[barnett468]

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ok, i am no welding afficianado like some others here but heres some info that might be helpful . . if you want it to be easy and hassle free to move around on a cart . . i would buy a smaller bottle but if you buy that unit you can wait until you mount it up and then decide if you would like a smaller bottle . . a 55 or 60 cf bottle is a decent choice.

you can weld without gas but if you are a beginner it will be beyond horrible . . if you use the gas, you will make pro looking welds in very little time.

i have never used flux core in my life and never needed to and don't know why one would.

that exact welder can be bought from home depot with a warranty but it doesn't say if the gauges are included $540.00

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-Electric-Weld-Pak-140-HD-Wire-Feed-Welder-K2514-1/100670934


a 55 - 60 cf cylinder is 24" x 7" and 28 lbs for around $160.00

http://weldingdirect.com/gascyl55cfar.html





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[3 Wheel Drive]

The last link I posted for 900 was the 180c model, includes cart, large bottle - full, rolls of wire.

I guess I'll take more time to shop, yea new ones are not expensive. It's nice to get a deal on stuff slightly used too.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I don't even have 220 plug in our house, I just checked & our dryer is a 110...

[barnett468]

I don't even have 220 plug in our house, I just checked & our dryer is a 110...

you can easily make a plug for 220 . . any house has this capability.

[shovelryder]

I have the companion genarator which is supposed to double the power. I'll have to read the manual to find out for sure. It used wires to connect both genarator for more juice. There very quiet, I can run it for nearly 8 hrs on 1 gallon of fuel.
I also have the standard and the companion....... It doubles the wattage not the voltage. Linked up the two are still 110v. Best gens I've ever had.

[loganm]

Buy a buzz box, spend the rest of your money on 100lb of Lincoln murex 6011, and 100 lb of Lincoln Excalibur 7018.

There's nothing that you can't weld with stick for the most part. Check the duty cycle on those machines. Duty cycle is how long a machine can run at a set amperage, for a percentage of ten minutes. (Example: 60% duty cycle @100 amps means it can weld continuously for 6 minutes before cooling off). And then get the one with the highest duty cycle. I would probably run .030 er70s6 on a machine that small. 75/25 mix or whatever the local welding store recommends.

[El Camexican]

There's nothing that you can't weld with stick for the most part.

True, but in this day and age asking someone to learn to weld using sheet metal and a stick is cruel


spend the rest of your money on 100lb of Lincoln murex 6011, and 100 lb of Lincoln Excalibur 7018.

Only to watch 199#'s of pricy rod turn white, or pay to power a massive rod oven 24/7 year round to keep them fresh? He's not in Texas.

[cr480r]

Buy a 240. The 120 volt machines are very handy, but it's just a matter of time before you take on more serious projects. I know lots of guys that make 120 volt units work for everything they do.. No thanks. Its so much easier to make nice welds when you have the proper amperage for the task. I had a handler 140 and currently a lil firepower 160 240v I got for the price of the tank. My next machine will be a ironman 230 unless I find a deal on a used 250amp machine.

[90nut]

I have a Miller 110v at my bosses. Think it's a 135 not sure. Thing is a bad azz sheet welder. Problem is, it cost like 700$ give or take. I bought it.
Be wary of a used tank, not sure of your local laws, regs, or suppliers but you can get a,tank with the machine, but you might not be able to get it filled. They use to require a tank title around here to get one,filled, tanks,can be out,of date but they can update them for a fee. Kind of like a opd 2 propane tank. I got a free tank from a buddy, had a feeling she was a little warm, biggest one u can get on my cart, 6 ' tall. Paid to 25$ for it full. Played hell getting,it exchanged. Hot hot hot. A flux core machine isn't bad but unless you get a fairly pricey one I feel they don't get hot enough to work properly. Don't get a stick I.e. arc welder. They are great but man will you get mad learning how to weld up sheet metal and body panels. Get them hot and they warp big time. All the new age body guys glue the,panels in. Chemical bond is strong as a weld and it doesn't create oxidation on the,inside of the,panels that makes it RUST. What it is what you are trying to repair! If you get into welding in body panels, look into weld through primer. Sell it at most welding shops, it's salty, but it,keeps it from rusting. I wish I would have paid more attention to my old man when he was around. Thought he was old and crotchety. Turns out he was but,he was right!

[loganm]

True, but in this day and age asking someone to learn to weld using sheet metal and a stick is cruel



Only to watch 199#'s of pricy rod turn white, or pay to power a massive rod oven 24/7 year round to keep them fresh? He's not in Texas.

Woah woah hold up, the 100 lbs of 7018 might not be the best idea, but unless he lives in the South American rain forest the 6011 should be alright. And 200lbs of rod isn't THAT space consuming. Just keep it your moms oven bro, she won't mind. -_-

The rule I like to follow is Lincoln for stick, Miller for mig/tig. Although I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between them if I wasn't told what I was running. I just love the color red.

[El Camexican]

Woah woah hold up, the 100 lbs of 7018 might not be the best idea, but unless he lives in the South American rain forest the 6011 should be alright. And 200lbs of rod isn't THAT space consuming. Just keep it your moms oven bro, she won't mind. -_-

The rule I like to follow is Lincoln for stick, Miller for mig/tig. Although I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between them if I wasn't told what I was running. I just love the color red.

Miller makes a nice machine, so does Lincoln. I prefer them over all others simply because of their factory policy's towards their employees. Great place to work last I heard. Hobart and a few other brands are customers of ours, so I have nothing bad to say about any brands. Even my BLUE:lol: Chinese TIG seems to work pretty well for a fraction of what the Miller decal costs, but I haven't tried to weld a cast iron triple tree with it yet:lol::lol::lol:

[Scootertrash]

My only complaints about this one is that it's a little heavy to lug up and down the stairs and its a tad wider than the cheap carts they sell on email, so I had to flip the top shelve over and it could fall off if I'm not careful. I figured the 3/8" thick claim would get me a decent weld on 1/4", but it actually does weld 3/8" pretty decent. It welds SS nice too, but I haven't tried aluminum yet.

Gas and 230V is the way to go as mentioned. There are much smaller tanks than that one in the photo if you plan to be carrying it any distance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-MILLERMATIC-211-AUTO-SET-MIG-WELDER-907422-/252267864784?hash=item3abc5622d0:g:9JMAAOSwX~dWlqv W

I picked up a 211 last summer when Miller had their "Build with Blue" promotion, $200.00 rebate on just the machine or $400.00 dollar rebate on the machine + $400.00 worth of Miller or Hobart supplies. I went with the 400 in supplies and got the spool gun, a cover, several different kinds of wire, and some replacement tips.

I got the new model 211 tho, #907614. It weighs half as much and is smaller than the one El posted. I was looking for portability, the 120/230 capability was a great start, then they came out with the new lighter smaller model and I hit the buy button.
Then I bought the welding cabinet from Harbor Freight on sale, as well as their folding welding table. Both the cabinet and table are better quality that I thought they would be coming from HF.

The only bummer is I haven't had a chance to use it yet. :(

[El Camexican]

I picked up a 211 last summer when Miller had their "Build with Blue" promotion, $200.00 rebate on just the machine or $400.00 dollar rebate on the machine + $400.00 worth of Miller or Hobart supplies. I went with the 400 in supplies and got the spool gun, a cover, several different kinds of wire, and some replacement tips.

I got the new model 211 tho, #907614. It weighs half as much and is smaller than the one El posted. I was looking for portability, the 120/230 capability was a great start, then they came out with the new lighter smaller model and I hit the buy button.
Then I bought the welding cabinet from Harbor Freight on sale, as well as their folding welding table. Both the cabinet and table are better quality that I thought they would be coming from HF.

The only bummer is I haven't had a chance to use it yet. :(

I did not know the 211 had changed. I did notice that the price is lower thank I paid. I wonder what else changed? I weld SS without the spool gun and plan to try aluminum without it as well. I'm hoping with the whip straight and the roller tension low it will work, that option is not cheap.

[onformula1]

I did not know the 211 had changed. I did notice that the price is lower thank I paid. I wonder what else changed? I weld SS without the spool gun and plan to try aluminum without it as well. I'm hoping with the whip straight and the roller tension low it will work, that option is not cheap.

Good, luck on welding aluminum without a spool, I know many that have tried everything to make it work and it snaps every time, don't forget the pure Argon bottle.

[onformula1]

Buy a buzz box, spend the rest of your money on 100lb of Lincoln murex 6011, and 100 lb of Lincoln Excalibur 7018.

There's nothing that you can't weld with stick for the most part. Check the duty cycle on those machines. Duty cycle is how long a machine can run at a set amperage, for a percentage of ten minutes. (Example: 60% duty cycle @100 amps means it can weld continuously for 6 minutes before cooling off). And then get the one with the highest duty cycle. I would probably run .030 er70s6 on a machine that small. 75/25 mix or whatever the local welding store recommends.

You are a welder? Recommending a arc welder for a trike? 6011?

[6speedthumper]

I have a Miller 211, and it is a fantastic machine. Honestly, unless you intend to weld 1/2" steel, you don't really need anything else. Even with 1/2" steel I think it would be perfectly fine, especially preheating the steel with a torch; wouldn't do 1/2" exclusively though, just when you NEEDED to do it. But, I have found that for just about any job, 110v and .023 wire will weld just about anything. I have been mostly using it for body work and exhaust systems, but, I do use 220v with .035 wire on occasion. On 110v, you can weld ATV frames with ease. Have also done some aluminum with it (have the spool gun) and it does take some getting used to. I do have a small aluminum project that I need to get to that will give me a better handle on it. It gives you the best of three worlds: 110v/220v/aluminum.

[El Camexican]

Good, luck on welding aluminum without a spool, I know many that have tried everything to make it work and it snaps every time, don't forget the pure Argon bottle.

I have the bottle and the wire, just haven't had the need yet. I've never MIG welded aluminum, only TIG. Where does it snap? I assumed the issue would be the wire distorting in the rollers and binding in the tip.

[barnett468]

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Here's one of my dusty relics I will probably Ebay now that this thread has got me thinking about welding.

HOBART BETA MIG II

...........http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eGIAAOSwX~dWquPD/s-l400.jpg

[onformula1]

I have the bottle and the wire, just haven't had the need yet. I've never MIG welded aluminum, only TIG. Where does it snap? I assumed the issue would be the wire distorting in the rollers and binding in the tip.

Right between the rollers and the liner.

[El Camexican]

Right between the rollers and the liner.

I was afraid that was what you were going to say :lol:

[onformula1]

I was afraid that was what you were going to say :lol:

I think the soft aluminum wire which is not coated hangs up, but the roller still likes to jam it in there until it breaks.

My buddy tried for a whole night with zero success, I have a 1/4 spool left if you want it. :lol:

No big deal even a Miller spoolmatic 2 gun welds aluminum like crap compared to a TIG.

[6speedthumper]

Biggest issue I had with the spool gun, is the aluminum wire getting jammed I the tip. I think the issue is that the wire expands with the heat, and get's stuck in the tip. The last little bit I used it (probably a good 3 years ago) I used a larger tip and it didn't jam.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I ended up buying the $420.00 Lincoln 140 Model welder, it came with a nice medium size bottle of gas, and the instruction book. He said you can download the DVD instructions from Lincolns website. He also gave me some scrap metal to practice on.

I'd like to install torsion boxes on my 70 Challenger then eventually replace my rusty trunk.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227069&stc=1

[El Camexican]

The good news is that if you ever get locked in your trunk you won't suffocate :)

[loganm]

You are a welder? Recommending a arc welder for a trike? 6011?

Well, TECHNICALLY, they're all arc welders. And if I were welding on a trike for something other than a field repair I would use 7018. Or mig. Learn to weld SMAW well and you'll be able to weld almost any process without much effort. Stick is more fun IMO.

The problem with welding aluminum without a spoolgun or push/pull setup is the wire plugs up in the liner due to the softer nature of aluminum.

But, I'm sure the millermatic 252 will handle my fabricating needs just fine.

[onformula1]

Well, I guess I disagree with you on many things on this thread and others and that is OK.

If I were to restore a 1944 Sherman Tank I would use a arc welder, or as you and many others refer to as a stick welder. I might even use 6011, but since I build trike, bikes, quads and hot rods I will continue to use my personal welder of choice.

BTW, arc/stick welding is easy, which is probably why they teach you it first at welding school, or at least where myself, friends and my brother who is a underwater welder went.

[loganm]

MIG and TIG are far easier IMO. Stick welding teaches you puddle control techniques that you just won't get with mig. The vast majority of MIG is in a factory environment in the flat and horizontal positions. MIG has far greater weld output, which is why it's favored in factory environments. IMO it's far easier to put down a 2F or 1G to specs with MIG than stick.

I'm a lot more impressed by an out of position 4G or 6G pipe weld than I am with some mig welds laid down in a factory. I picked up TIG pretty quick, but I don't think I could do some of the finer stainless pipe welds and stuff I've seen.

I really would like to find a job stick welding, simply because when it's 100F outside I like a breeze blowing on me, and when you're halfway through an important MIG weld in a factory environment and someone trips on your fan and blows all the shielding gas away it is no fun. On top of that, no heavy mig gun to hold all day, and spray arc transfer gets pretty damn hot when you're burning through a work order for some heavy parts.

Edit: I should clarify, stick takes more skill IMO, but it is definitely easier to set up than MIG and I would have no idea where to start setting up a miller dynasty or what have you for TIG.

[barnett468]

Stick welding teaches you puddle control techniques that you just won't get with mig.

The only thing stick welding teaches anyone is that they should have bought a mig or tig welder.

[loganm]

The only thing stick welding teaches anyone is that they should have bought a mig or tig welder.

Different applications for different processes. You wouldn't try to construct a skyscraper with MIG or TIG now would you.

[onformula1]

MIG and TIG are far easier IMO. Stick welding teaches you puddle control techniques that you just won't get with mig. The vast majority of MIG is in a factory environment in the flat and horizontal positions. MIG has far greater weld output, which is why it's favored in factory environments. IMO it's far easier to put down a 2F or 1G to specs with MIG than stick.

I'm a lot more impressed by an out of position 4G or 6G pipe weld than I am with some mig welds laid down in a factory. I picked up TIG pretty quick, but I don't think I could do some of the finer stainless pipe welds and stuff I've seen.

I really would like to find a job stick welding, simply because when it's 100F outside I like a breeze blowing on me, and when you're halfway through an important MIG weld in a factory environment and someone trips on your fan and blows all the shielding gas away it is no fun. On top of that, no heavy mig gun to hold all day, and spray arc transfer gets pretty damn hot when you're burning through a work order for some heavy parts.

Edit: I should clarify, stick takes more skill IMO, but it is definitely easier to set up than MIG and I would have no idea where to start setting up a miller dynasty or what have you for TIG.

Well, I am convinced since I like to do everything best way possible or the hardest way possible, I really need to order one of these- (The best part is it looks just like the welder my father had in the 70's)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-Electric-AC225S-Arc-Welder-K1170/100041326

Guys, if this works out I may have a Century & Lincoln MIG, Miller TIG and a Union Carbide gas welder setup for sale. :lol:

[onformula1]

I ended up buying the $420.00 Lincoln 140 Model welder, it came with a nice medium size bottle of gas, and the instruction book. He said you can download the DVD instructions from Lincolns website. He also gave me some scrap metal to practice on.

I'd like to install torsion boxes on my 70 Challenger then eventually replace my rusty trunk.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227069&stc=1

Congrats on the welder, it is a nice unit.

[barnett468]

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Different applications for different processes. You wouldn't try to construct a skyscraper with MIG or TIG now would you.

Once again, you are attempting to sound like a know it all and "school" people you know absolutely nothing about . . I said I am not a great welder but I did not say I know nothing about welding, and based on your info, I started welding around 35 years before you did.

I would not build a skyscraper so your analogy doesn't apply to me, PLUS, they actually use MIG welders in most construction these days and have been for many years.

I suggest if you are going to attempt to make a point, you should study up a little bit BEFORE you try and make one, especially since your batting average here in the last 2 days has been pretty low.

Some people prefer to live in the stone age and use stone age tools, and others do not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4tUj0EOGg
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[Mosh]

I have a Miller 211, and it is a fantastic machine. Honestly, unless you intend to weld 1/2" steel, you don't really need anything else. Even with 1/2" steel I think it would be perfectly fine, especially preheating the steel with a torch; wouldn't do 1/2" exclusively though, just when you NEEDED to do it. But, I have found that for just about any job, 110v and .023 wire will weld just about anything. I have been mostly using it for body work and exhaust systems, but, I do use 220v with .035 wire on occasion. On 110v, you can weld ATV frames with ease. Have also done some aluminum with it (have the spool gun) and it does take some getting used to. I do have a small aluminum project that I need to get to that will give me a better handle on it. It gives you the best of three worlds: 110v/220v/aluminum.

This^^^^
I Have a lincoln 140 just like the one 3wd bought, and there is nothing I have found it will not do for me.
I use a lot of flux core stuff, just because it is a PITA sometimes keeping gas in stock. A crazy good welder taught me you better be able to flux core weld because there are applications where its needed. Like outside in the wind, or your run out of gas on a sunday and live in BFE and have to get a job finished etc, and if you can lay a clean bead with flux core, your gas welds really look good.

I use the same machine at work on the bottle as well. If most of your fab work stays at 3/16ths and below that model works great.

[90nut]

I agree with mosh, I keep a roll of flux core in the tool box just in case. But I also have an extra argon tank to. Yea, i try to be over prepared!

[loganm]

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Once again, you are attempting to sound like a know it all and "school" people you know absolutely nothing about . . I said I am not a great welder but I did not say I know nothing about welding, and based on your info, I started welding around 35 years before you did.

I would not build a skyscraper so your analogy doesn't apply to me, PLUS, they actually use MIG welders in most construction these days and have been for many years.

I suggest if you are going to attempt to make a point, you should study up a little bit BEFORE you try and make one, especially since your batting average here in the last 2 days has been pretty low.

Some people prefer to live in the stone age and use stone age tools, and others do not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4tUj0EOGg
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Once again you're taking everything WAYYYYYY the wrong way. Jezus H bud. If you can't weld stick you don't have to hate on it. I'd like to see you lay down ANYTHING talking that much trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro. Stick welding will never die. Too versatile and too simple/convenient. It's a fuking EXAMPLE. You think everything is that simple that's ridiculous.

You got a problem go ahead and say it.

onformula don't go buying a tombstone if you already have a tig. All tig welders can run stick, you could run AC TIG with a tombstone if you REALLY wanted to. Go out in the real world and tell a real welder stick is useless. Lmao. Get your sht pushed in gramps.

[ironchop]

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

And they're like "its better than yours"

Damn right its better than yours.

I could teach you but I would have to charge.


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[shovelryder]

Annnnnnd......Here we go....DeJavu all over again.....

[3 Wheel Drive]

Annnnnnd......Here we go....DeJavu all over again.....

It may be time for a new thread:


http://www.skillsyouneed.com/ips/conflict-resolution.html :lol:

[loganm]

YES they can weld buildings with mig, or fluxcore. Almost anything CAN be done. You can hook a tig torch up to an AC Miller legend and TIG aluminum if you really want to. I don't know why this is an argument. I've been to school and worked in the industry. I'm just here to spread my knowledge and experience and learn from others'. Not trying to start fights.

I think it's kind of funny that a forum dedicated to vintage "out of date" 3 wheelers is so against a vintage "out of date" welding process. Although MIG has been around for a long time too. I'm just a stick welding purist. Different processes for different applications.

Currently adapting an old fiat allis loader bucket to a CAT 924k. Using the loader arms to make the hooks and latch. Had to do 2 full pens to make the hooks one solid piece. I can upload pics of my work of any of you doubt me.

[3 Wheel Drive]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227085&stc=1http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227086&stc=1http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227087&stc=1

[barnett468]

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Once again you're taking everything WAYYYYYY the wrong way. Jezus H bud.

I don't think so . . If you go back and read everyone's post from your first thread on your seized 250r, you will see that I put in a lot of time and effort trying to help you, and you kept coming back with what sure seemed like somewhat uppity replies, but I didn't say ANYTHING about it until several other people got on you for it, and even then, none of my replies were as "direct" as others were because I just hoped it would help you realize that everyone was there to help you, not attack you like you seemed to think they were.



If you can't weld stick you don't have to hate on it.

I can stick weld but I'm not great at because I never did it long enough and consistently enough . . I can also gas weld and mig weld, and can tig weld both steel and aluminum and cast iron, and a tig welder is the one i used the most and did so several times a week for several years.



I'd like to see you lay down ANYTHING talking that much trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro.

Sorry, but I have no idea what this means.



Stick welding will never die. Too versatile and too simple/convenient.

Your statement below seems to contradict the one above regarding stick weldings simplicity, but I do agree that stick welding will never completely die out, however, as I have proven, it's used less nowadays than it previously was, and there is a very good reason for that.


MIG and TIG are far easier IMO. IMO it's far easier to put down a 2F or 1G to specs with MIG than stick.




You think everything is that simple that's ridiculous.

Sorry, but I don know what this means either, but I never said anything was simple, but I sure wish at least one thing was.



You got a problem go ahead and say it.

I don't have any problem at all other than what I mentioned long after many other people did on your previous thread . . Below is a good example . . You may simply be trying to be humorous with no ill intent by telling onformula1 to "go out in the real world", then following that with "Lmao" and calling him "gramps", and telling him he will get his "sht pushed in" etc, but the person on the receiving end of this may interpret it otherwise, and it is comments like this that can create problems which no one here wants or needs.


onformula don't go buying a tombstone if you already have a tig. All tig welders can run stick, you could run AC TIG with a tombstone if you REALLY wanted to. Go out in the real world and tell a real welder stick is useless. Lmao. Get your sht pushed in gramps.


I can guarantee you this...if you simply tone down the rhetoric, as in the additional comments I pointed out above which were unnecessary and not helpful in any way, you will not receive any negative comments from anyone, at which point you should not feel that you are being attacked . . We like new people and want many more to join, and want for this to be an environment where everyone can feel they are welcome and safe from ridicule etc, because this sht is supposed to be FUN!

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[loganm]

TECHNICALLY they can. But stick is what you will find being used the vast majority of the time.

[barnett468]

I'm just here to spread my knowledge and experience and learn from others'. Not trying to start fights. I think it's kind of funny that a forum dedicated to vintage "out of date" 3 wheelers is so against a vintage "out of date" welding process.

Well, there are actually s a LOT of people on this site that modify their vintage bikes just like many people modify vintage cars, with stroker engines and fuel injection and better suspension and tires and brakes etc so the main thing that is still orig is the body which has cool and unique styling, which is one of the main reasons people buy vintage bikes and cars etc . . Some people also like them box stock, however, just because people like vintage cars or bikes etc, it does not mean that they want to weld them using vintage tools and antiquated techniques.



Although MIG has been around for a long time too. I'm just a stick welding purist.

No one is picking on you for that, and I am pretty sure that you can stick weld just as well as most anyone here and probably even better than than most, and I have seen expert stick welders and appreciate the amount of skill it takes to do that compared to mig welding, cuz like I mentioned, I can stick weld but I suck at it so I know how difficult it is to learn . . I also know how ridiculously easy mig welding is to learn in comparison, and it I can mig weld, I know that anyone can easily learn how to do it.



Currently adapting an old fiat allis loader bucket to a CAT 924k. Using the loader arms to make the hooks and latch. Had to do 2 full pens to make the hooks one solid piece. I can upload pics of my work of any of you doubt me.

Nobody doubts you, and you don't need to prove anything to anyone in life because what others believe is irrelevant, however, we are geeks for photos of pretty much anything and would therefore love to see "almost" anything you care to post. :lol:

[83ATC185]

Nice setup 3WD i really should invest in one seeing as how i have enough use for one, although i haven't used a mig since 09 and it was attached to an ABB robot :naughty:

If i could do it manually with the controller, i'm sure the curve isn't too steep for learning by hand. Welding body panels with a stick is next to impossible. For me anyway.

You might, depending on how much it costs now, invest in some Abicor Binzel anti-spatter if you plan on doing a lot of welding. Good stuff. The non aerosol works the best. Makes tip

cleaning a breeze.

[briano]

If you ever want a good 100% duty cycle stick welder just look up "weldernator" and build one. I have a 130 amp dodge alternator running off an 8 horse power snowblower motor and it will burn clean through a 1/2 inch plate on the highest heat setting that I have. Or it will weld 16 gauge steel on the lowest setting. I have a car heater switch to adjust the power output, and can find tune it with the engine rpm's. Simple setup that I built on a cart for less than $200. Plus I can throw it in the back of my truck and weld anywhere. You can even hook up a TIG torch to it.

[shovelryder]

OK......We need a diversion......DONT weld galvinised in a closed garage!!!!! LOL!!!!! You will get incredibly sick!.....Carry on!

[atc300r]

I have a 90 amp flux core wire feed welder from Harbor freight. it was about $90. My wife and sons got it for me for a gift.Out of respect for 3 wheeldrive I deleted my other post . 227088

[loganm]

OK......We need a diversion......DONT weld galvinised in a closed garage!!!!! LOL!!!!! You will get incredibly sick!.....Carry on!

If you drink milk before, the milk will line your throat and keep you from getting sick... It's a ghetto solution. Best bet is to grind all the galvanizing off. I've never gotten sick from it, HOWEVER. DO NOT, WELD SOMETHING THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY CLEANED WITH BRAKE CLEANER. Breathe it in and you will feel like you're going to die.

[shovelryder]

If you drink milk before, the milk will line your throat and keep you from getting sick... It's a ghetto solution. Best bet is to grind all the galvanizing off. I've never gotten sick from it, HOWEVER. DO NOT, WELD SOMETHING THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY CLEANED WITH BRAKE CLEANER. Breathe it in and you will feel like you're going to die.But when you are breathing the air is going into the lungs.......Dont ya get sick from that part of it?????

[Mr. Clean]

OK......We need a diversion......

Watch our where the huskies go.....and dont you eat that yellow snow.

[El Camexican]

A word of warning to all welders out there...

I've been hospitalized due to zinc poisoning once and been ill from it a couple of other times. Drinking milk in advance of welding zinc only masks the preliminary symptoms, you are still doing tremendous and permanent damage to your body.

The time I ended up in the hospital was awful. They can't do much for you, you feel like your freezing to death, but yet you have a temperature and sweat buckets. I was in bed for 3 days. As of a month ago I was informed that I have some supposedly benign cysts on my liver and my kidneys seem to do things the doctors can't pin point. I also have had to get a cancerous spot burned of my bicep and I get pre-cancerous spots on my biceps every few months that I have to get checked and treat with creams.

There is ZERO doubt that this is caused from welding burns that occurred back some 20 years when I would spot weld in a t-shirt with the sleeves rolled up all day long and fried the skin between my welding gloves and my shoulders. The skin on my cheeks is starting to itch as of late as well, I burnt my face tacking more times than I did my arms, so that's what will be a problem next. Then there were the welders flashes, although I didn't get many as I wear eye glasses and have blue eyes which helps a little. I seem to have escaped permanent damage from that bit of stupidity.

Please don't be stupid, wear a CERTIFIED RESPIRATOR TO WELD ZINC and always be fully clothed when welding or tacking.

[cr480r]

HOWEVER. DO NOT, WELD SOMETHING THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY CLEANED WITH BRAKE CLEANER. Breathe it in and you will feel like you're going to die.

Friend had that happen.. Just one tiny weld to demonstrate for a friend. He grabbed a scrap piece that was laying on the floor in front of the workbench that someone else had dripped brake cleaner on. The fumes filled his hood and instantly took his breath.. later that night he went ER because he was scared of the symptoms. Spent 2 days at hospital being monitored.. Missed a week of work. Eventually he returned to nearly normal, but he was lucky. Research phosgene poisoning.. Scary

[shovelryder]

A word of warning to all welders out there...

I've been hospitalized due to zinc poisoning once and been ill from it a couple of other times. Drinking milk in advance of welding zinc only masks the preliminary symptoms, you are still doing tremendous and permanent damage to your body.

The time I ended up in the hospital was awful. They can't do much for you, you feel like your freezing to death, but yet you have a temperature and sweat buckets. I was in bed for 3 days.



Please don't be stupid, wear a CERTIFIED RESPIRATOR TO WELD ZINC and always be fully clothed when welding or tacking.Mine was the same way.....Was the worst sick Ive ever felt.

[yaegerb]

Get your sht pushed in gramps.

^this comment is over the line for this forum. Louis/Billy...is there a reason this guy is still here?

[loganm]

^this comment is over the line for this forum. Louis/Billy...is there a reason this guy is still here?

Do you prefer tampons or pads? Lmao

[El Camexican]

Do you prefer tampons or pads? Lmao

I'll say goodbye to you now before the mods revoke the chance for you to do the same. You've managed to embarrass yourself and piss off others, some who are very respected on here and did nothing to provoke you.

Whenever it is they let you come back, please return with a little less attitude and a lot more respect for those who are trying to help you out in life as well as with your trike.

[83ATC185]

A word of warning to all welders out there...

I've been hospitalized due to zinc poisoning once and been ill from it a couple of other times. Drinking milk in advance of welding zinc only masks the preliminary symptoms, you are still doing tremendous and permanent damage to your body.

The time I ended up in the hospital was awful. They can't do much for you, you feel like your freezing to death, but yet you have a temperature and sweat buckets. I was in bed for 3 days.



Please don't be stupid, wear a CERTIFIED RESPIRATOR TO WELD ZINC and always be fully clothed when welding or tacking.

I wish somebody could tell my dad that. i smelled him welding galvanized pipe 50 feet away and i went over to ask him what he was doing and he said, and i quote "awhh they tell you that crap but really it ain't no big deal as little as i'm doing here. Its when you weld it for years on end that its a problem"

I left on that note with my hands up. I don't know how much it takes but it cant be safe to breathe in any quantity. He spent 4 hours welding on those pipes and he "seemed fine".

Not me.

[El Camexican]

I wish somebody could tell my dad that. i smelled him welding galvanized pipe 50 feet away and i went over to ask him what he was doing and he said, and i quote "awhh they tell you that crap but really it ain't no big deal as little as i'm doing here. Its when you weld it for years on end that its a problem"

I left on that note with my hands up. I don't know how much it takes but it cant be safe to breathe in any quantity. He spent 4 hours welding on those pipes and he "seemed fine".

Not me.

If it was outdoors, or in a high roof shop he won't get sick the same day. Its not healthy, but not something that will put you in the hospital that same night. Working in tanks is the worst. In my case I was welding hot dipped hangers inside a false stone ceiling that was only about 30" tall with no ventilation but the hole I crawled in through. That was a crappy job.

[barnett468]

I wish somebody could tell my dad that. i smelled him welding galvanized pipe 50 feet away and i went over to ask him what he was doing and he said, and i quote "awhh they tell you that crap but really it ain't no big deal as little as i'm doing here. Its when you weld it for years on end that its a problem"

I left on that note with my hands up. I don't know how much it takes but it cant be safe to breathe in any quantity. He spent 4 hours welding on those pipes and he "seemed fine".

Not me.

Old people are f'n stupid and beligerent and refuse to change and don't care what anyone says . . I should know . :lol:

[loganm]

I'll say goodbye to you now before the mods revoke the chance for you to do the same. You've managed to embarrass yourself and piss off others, some who are very respected on here and did nothing to provoke you.

Whenever it is they let you come back, please return with a little less attitude and a lot more respect for those who are trying to help you out in life as well as with your trike.

I'm not coming back. My sources have already confirmed this place is full of morons, however, if you want to see the hack job extended swingarm I'm building tonight it'll be on the PBB. I'm out.

[El Camexican]

I'm not coming back. My sources have already confirmed this place is full of morons, however, if you want to see the hack job extended swingarm I'm building tonight it'll be on the PBB. I'm out.

Make sure you get plenty blazed and have a few dozen cold ones before you start using the power tools:beer

[83ATC185]

Make sure you get plenty blazed and have a few dozen cold ones before you start using the power tools:beer

And remember, the best place for the ground lead is on the front left leg of your chair, with the clamp end facing north/northwest.

[barnett468]

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Not trying to start fights.


Do you prefer tampons or pads? Lmao

:wondering



I already admitted that the fact that I had to re-do the bottom end 4 times was purely my fault. That's why you shouldn't build motors slightly drunk and blazed up.

Perhaps you shouldn't post on forums while you are "slightly" drunk and blazed up either . http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/thumbsup.gif



My sources have already confirmed this place is full of morons,

Are these the same "sources" you asked why your top end seized FOUR times before you asked here...or are you still to slightly drunk and blazed up to remember? http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/shrug.gif



I'm not coming back.

Well thanks for coming back to tell us that...bye . http://www.mustang.org.au/forum/Smileys/smilies/seeya2.gif
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[loganm]

Are the mods on vacation? Lmao. I never asked anything until I asked here. I haven't been drunk or high in ages, I just don't care. Forums are too backwards and autistic for me.

[bkm]

I thought you were leaving? Quit being a prick tease

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[barnett468]

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3 Wheel Drive, hopefully the following will be of some use to you and others will have lots of ideas also..


WELDING SUGGESTIONS FOR MIG


SAFETY

Do not ever cut corners with safety . . I have many times because it is incredibly easy to think, "I don't need the helmet or maybe the gloves or maybe the long sleeve shirt just to weld for 1 minute or just to put a tack weld on." . . You never know when weld will splatter, plus the effects of the light from the weld alone are cumulative and the lite is ultra violet.

Do everything you possibly can to avoid breathing fumes from welding . . You simply can't avoid all the fumes, but weld in a ventilated area whenever possible and if you need to weld much on a workbench, you can buy a small 6" fan from anywhere for $10.00 and turn it on low before you weld.


SOME DISCOUNT SHOPS

Home Depot, Lowes, Amazon, White Cap, Harbor Freight, Ebay.and Eastwood.


HELMET .............................. $50.00

Get auto darkening with adjustable darkness . . No need o spend big bucks on one in your case . . The one below is a decent helmet for part time users and the price is hard to beat . . I would get at least 2 additional outside lenses in case they get discontinued because it is likely to get damaged from enough weld splatter that it will be difficult to see out of.

http://www.eastwood.com/auto-darken-welding-helmet.html?fee=7&fep=25918&SRCCODE=GA220010&adpos=1o5&creative=83580266700&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CP2AyYjnz8oCFUVgfgodV-AArQ


GLOVES

imo in your particular case, you don't need gloves that are specifically designed for welding . . They are also pretty thick and a little cumbersome, so I would just get some thin leather gardening gloves from the hardware store that hopefully had some type of cuff on them that would cover your wrist.


SHIRT

Long sleeve as El Camexican suggested . . Heavy flannel is good . . Weld will instantly go thru a thin shirt . . You may also be able to buy slip on welding sleeves.


PARTS CLEANING

Clean all parts prior to cleaning . . Remove any oil but as mentioned, don't use brake cleaner . . If you think they are oily, you can wipe them down with lacquer thinner or similar.

Buy a bunch of tooth brush sized stainless wire brushes and use one to scrub the area you plan to weld prior to welding then wipe the dust away.

Remove plating from the area you plan to weld if they have plating . . A small bench grinder and/or grinding wheel attachment for a drill is handy as well as a wire wheel or wire wheel adapter for a drill.


TOOLS

Put the following on your welding cart . vise grips, a few spring clamps, a 1" diameter flat magnet, a magnetic 45% angle 2" x 2", wide nose pliers with wire cutter or separate wire cutter.


WELDING GAS

Put a sticky note next to the switch on the welder that reminds you to turn the gas on AND off.


TOOL TRAY OR CUPS

You can get small trays and cups that can mount to the cart to store tools and other stuff n . . Some welding carts also have drawers.


PRACTICE PAD

You can but a few squares of maybe 1/16", 1/8" and 3/16" thick metal and practice on those to improve your skill and also use them to practice on as you set the current and wire speed you need to to weld metal of a similar thickness of metal before you weld it.


WELDING TIP PLACEMENT WHILE WELDING

Different people use different techniques but you will figure out what works best for you but I usually hold the tip so it is pointing in the direction I am placing a bead and around 1/4" away from the metal . . If you hold it much farther away, the gas will not hit the weld and it will come out very bad . . If you hold the tip straight up and down, you can't see what you are welding.

There are also lots of good 'How to mig weld" videos on youtube.

...http://cdn.instructables.com/F82/2IV6/F2NOBQV2/F822IV6F2NOBQV2.MEDIUM.jpg

[Scootertrash]

I'm not coming back. My sources have already confirmed this place is full of morons, however, if you want to see the hack job extended swingarm I'm building tonight it'll be on the PBB. I'm out.

Big words for welds, exaggerated claims, lame excuses for screwed up builds, constant bragging about "skillz", lame attempts at insults? I think I hear your Mommy calling you. Now go finish your homework, clean your plate, and get to bed early.

You should change your screen name to "Massengill"

ETA: If you're using your IQ as the basis for calling us morons, I'm sure I speak for the others as well as myself when I say we'll take that as a compliment.

[Scootertrash]

One of my favorite "Weld"s

227096

[Mosh]

^this comment is over the line for this forum. Louis/Billy...is there a reason this guy is still here?

Ahh yes...where are the mods....Watch...the mods will now moderate the former moderator.....that never would have tolerated 1/10 of this bullshit...watch it happen...live

[6speedthumper]

I've gotten sick from welding galvanized steel. Talk about muscle spasms! My back muscles were spasming so bad I couldn't sleep. Nearly the worst thing I've been through.

[onformula1]

Just for the record, I am not a Grandfather, nor do I want to be at this time. :lol:

Please, excuse me while I switch over my TIG to stick so I can weld in a I beam brace on my trike build, does anyone have a chipping hammer I can borrow?, I seem to have misplaced mine in 1990. :lol:

What is the PBB???, I really need to see that swingarm.

[3 Wheel Drive]

I'm ordering these torque boxes for my first welding project: http://www.manciniracing.com/usctoboxset1.html

They will never be seen so that's a good thing, & there only 1/8" thick sheet metal. And this is the welder I bought:

http://m.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/equipment/Pages/product.aspx?product=K2480-1(LincolnElectric)

What wire should I use to weld the 1/8" steel plates? I won't be home to try my welder for a few days, I need to get a list going for things I need to buy. Gloves, welding hood, more wire (what size?)

This is my welder & bottle, it's pretty small 75% something & 25% something else I can't remember.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227107&stc=1http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227108&stc=1

[onformula1]

I like .030 wire for under 3/16" and .035 for 3/16" and over.

I only use the Argon CO2 mix which is 75/25 percent, straight CO2 is cheaper but does not weld as clean.

I only use flux core wire for things like floor pans where once you clean it up a bit it does not matter and I only use it because it is cheaper.

Also, you should not have any headaches with getting your tank refilled, that is a buy tank not a rental. If your tank is out of date my welding shop charges $15 bucks to test and recertify it, you don't have to wait they will just swap it out.

[barnett468]

I'm ordering these torque boxes for my first welding project: http://www.manciniracing.com/usctoboxset1.html

They will never be seen so that's a good thing, & there only 1/8" thick sheet metal. And this is the welder I bought:

http://m.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/equipment/Pages/product.aspx?product=K2480-1(LincolnElectric)

What wire should I use to weld the 1/8" steel plates? I won't be home to try my welder for a few days, I need to get a list going for things I need to buy. Gloves, welding hood, more wire (what size?)

This is my welder & bottle, it's pretty small 75% something & 25% something else I can't remember.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227107&stc=1http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=227108&stc=1

I can't see the photo of your tank, but if its a lot smaller than the 55 cubic feet tank I posted, I would take it back because it wont last long and it's a pita to get them charged, plus it will cost more to charge it in the long run if they charge a fixed labor fee for charging it.

As far as doing the welds yourself, you must practice A LOT before you do this . . This is a high stress area and bad welds can easily break . . You need to get good penetration with the weld, and it is a fine line between poor penetration and burning a hole in the metal.

As far as flux core goes, I would never use that for this app, plus the flux core is designed to be used without gas . . You can use it with gas but its just another potential contaminate imo.
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[barnett468]

I need to get a list going for things I need to buy.

I posted a long list of suggestions for things to buy earlier.

[6speedthumper]

An auto darkening helmet is a wonderful thing! Lowes sells a nice one for about a hundred bucks. I don't mind a standard helmet, but, when you are doing body panels, the auto darkening helmet is the ticket.

I suggest you go to Lowes and get some varying thicknesses of metals from the hardware section. Once you have that, practice, practice, practice! After you've done that, practice some more! Not only do you have to learn your welder, you have to develop the technique. Technique gets better over time, but, you still have to get a feel for it before you start doing something like those torque boxes. Also, after you do several practice welds with the thickness metal you are going to be welding the most, and the welds have good penetration, you may be best to record the settings you are welding at. As an example; my Miller 211 likes to have the wire speed dial just a tad less then the material thickness dial setting. If you lift the access door for the wire spool and rollers, there may be a chart of recommended settings for various metal thicknesses.

[onformula1]

One of my favorite "Weld"s

227096

Is it Tuesday?

[El Camexican]

I've gotten sick from welding galvanized steel. Talk about muscle spasms! My back muscles were spasming so bad I couldn't sleep. Nearly the worst thing I've been through.


Mine was the same way.....Was the worst sick Ive ever felt.

Glad to see it wasn’t just me being a pus*y. I’d forgotten all about the back pain until that post. It was awful! What I recall most vividly was the sweating and teeth chattering. I soaked the mattress as I was freezing to my core.

[6speedthumper]

Glad to see it wasn’t just me being a pus*y. I’d forgotten all about the back pain until that post. It was awful! What I recall most vividly was the sweating and teeth chattering. I soaked the mattress as I was freezing to my core.

It's almost like having the flu! I was curled up in the fetal position with my back pressed against the wall as hard as I could to get relief. I walked doubled over for a weekend. The only thing that rivaled that sickness was salmonella. You do NOT want that!

[El Camexican]

The only thing that rivaled that sickness was salmonella. You do NOT want that!

No worries, I prefer tuna. :D

[83ATC185]

Is it Tuesday?

That is Tuesday!

[3 Wheel Drive]

My welding helmet from Eastwood arrived today, it took a few days. Now I need a welding cart, it's a pain in the ass to drag everything around on the floor. I attached the regulator up to the bottle but never tried welding anything yet.

My tourqe boxes arrived today also, but I need some practice first. I think my first project is going to make some of those U bolt things for mounting my 86 Tecate seat to the fenders.

I brought 8 of them to get zinc plated with other parts and only 6 came back!:mad: So I'm going to make a few of them to mount my seat.

http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/sevendcuda/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse1ylvbul.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=5

[onformula1]

A buddy gave me one of this about 15 years ago, it's not bad so I never built a nicer one-

http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-cart-60790.html

The 20 percent off coupon brings it down a bit too.