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plastikosmd
04-23-2016, 03:53 PM
So I got a new flintlock. .20 bore, weight is about 7 lbs, Balance is perfect. Slim and points like a dream.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/IMG_2641_zpsbvz6gruo.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/IMG_1865_zps2r8ozgfl.jpg

Shot it for the first time today.
Instead of going with .177 w patch I went with .22 pellet in this style. The steel BB aids in penetration. Not sure of weight.

I shot everything at 25yrds. I used 10g 4f. I did not shoot for accuracy today but I had no issue hitting the 2x4 at 25, first shot.http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_142540_zpsks7muxmf.jpg
Easily but snugly thumb seats. No patch needed. The skirt catches the minimal fouling from the last shot, scraping its way down and providing a flame buffer.http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_142835_zpsrmximlv6.jpg
Entrance, 3/4 pressure treated ply
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_143714_zpslzfcran9.jpg
Exit
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_143801_zpsqnmt68gh.jpg
Entrance, into 2x4
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_143056_zps8qbefb4a.jpg
Dug a hole to see how deep.http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_144246_zpskexv2mv4.jpg
Distance through the pressure treated 2x4. Almost through
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_144236_zps7zyejgsm.jpg
Even damage to my steel knockdown. Plenty of energy
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/plastikosmd/jr%20slavo%20flint/20160423_142459_zpsdq7y0zbh.jpg

ironchop
04-23-2016, 04:51 PM
That's badass. I always wanted a cap an ball revolver too besides a rifle.

So its a flint lock black powder rifle in .20 cal?

Where do I get one of these?

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plastikosmd
04-23-2016, 05:04 PM
flintlock, bp yes

this was a custom gun, built by a guy named JR Salvo. He has since passed, I bought it from estate/widow. He had coined it as the 'ultimate squirrel rifle.'
he handmade everything on it but the rock used as a flint, lock, stock and barrel.

I would imagine one could get a larger bore lined to a smaller bore. tho at times it may be too heavy depending on platform. the barrel on this is 5/8" and overall rifle stands nearly as tall as me (5'10")

keeping the weight down and making it slim makes it a pleasure to handle/shoot

ironchop
04-23-2016, 05:09 PM
I had been looking into DIY builder kits for BP flint and matchlock rifles. I was surprised they cost that much for a kit. The ones I saw were almost $500 and up. I think I might buy the barrel and make the rest myself.

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plastikosmd
04-23-2016, 05:46 PM
I don't know your level of BP experience
If newbie I would start with a functional platform first to learn. Decide what u like then build? Ymmv

Nothing worse than loosing someone in BP due to frustration of learning curve!

DohcBikes
04-23-2016, 09:23 PM
Learn to swim

Pellet rifles are for children

YTZ drew
04-23-2016, 10:15 PM
Pellet rifles are for childrenI would have to respectfully disagree here. That's a black powder rifle being fired with a pellet as a projectile. That's no kids toy. Pushing a pellet through 3/4 plywood is probably harder than pushing it through a living creature.

ironchop
04-24-2016, 08:34 AM
Learn to swim

Pellet rifles are for children
Learn to STFU

Passive-aggressive is for punks

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DohcBikes
04-24-2016, 08:50 AM
Learn to detect sarcasm.

You are probably the most passive aggressive poster on this site so I don't feel the need to take you seriously.

ironchop
04-24-2016, 09:33 AM
*yawn*

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DohcBikes
04-24-2016, 09:47 AM
Thanks for making my point.

Scootertrash
04-24-2016, 10:33 AM
Here's an air rifle for ya:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

230798

plastikosmd
04-24-2016, 10:51 AM
^ nice piece of history. I read about that one in regards to L+C. Cool piece

along the same lines as that (minimalist, good for lack of supplies etc) the entire kit to shoot this on my woods walk is a tin of pellets, a single 3x3" patch (it can be cut into small pieces for swabbing) a empty 22wmr case for measure and a pan charger (about the size of a lighter) with some 4f in it. all in all, everything you need for about 25 shots in about 1/2 the size of a deck of cards.

One of my typical bench BP target rifles alone is 30-80lbs and 4 duffel bags of equipt to go with it.

Sometimes it is nice to just travel light and enjoy the ride

ironchop
04-24-2016, 10:52 AM
That's pretty cool. Had never heard of it

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RIDE-RED 250r
04-24-2016, 09:22 PM
That's VERY cool Plastikosmd!

I have a BP rifle I hunt deer with. It is a TC Renegade, cap lock in 50 cal. It's considered old school compared to what people call BP muzzle loaders nowadays.

I am curious, you say you are using spent 22WMR cases for powder measure?? What is the BP type you are using?? FFFG perhaps given the small and lightweight projectile? What charge weight? I can hardly venture a guess with a BP rifle in that caliber, maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-15gr?? All I know is that I run between 90 and 110gr of FFG or FFG equivalent in my 50 cal depending on what projectile I am using...

Very interesting and cool piece ya got there. :beer Must be a real sweetheart to shoot. :)

Be fun to run it through a chrony just to see how it compares to the higher tech air rifles and even the popular rimfires.

bkm
04-24-2016, 11:40 PM
That is an absolutely beautiful gun and I would love to build my own some day. I have a .58 Remington 1863 2 band contract rifle and a modern .50 in line.

plastikosmd
04-25-2016, 05:53 AM
10 gr. 4f
I could probably go down to 5 grains, nearly what is in the pan!

RIDE-RED 250r
04-25-2016, 03:39 PM
WOW! I didn't know there was such a thing as 4F! Goes to show that I am not very diversified in my experience with BP ;)

plastikosmd
04-25-2016, 08:08 PM
Yep, very fine. It is typically what u charge the pan with on a flinter. Catches easy and very reactive. Good for lighting the main charge. Although in this case I am also using 4f as a charge due to bore size. Less residue to foul. U would not want to charge your typical rifle with 4f as a general rule. (I guess it could be done but the volume would have to be significantly decreased.)

RIDE-RED 250r
04-26-2016, 04:08 PM
Yep, very fine. It is typically what u charge the pan with on a flinter. Catches easy and very reactive. Good for lighting the main charge. Although in this case I am also using 4f as a charge due to bore size. Less residue to foul. U would not want to charge your typical rifle with 4f as a general rule. (I guess it could be done but the volume would have to be significantly decreased.)

You bet, much like loading your 44mag cartridges with Trail Boss as opposed to H110.