85' Tecate 3 lights??

[smoknrv4]

I'm am wondering if the 85 Tecate 3 originally came with lights or not, if so are they hard to find?
Thanks

[bkm]

Yes it did. It was mounted above the radiator and was either the first thing removed or crushed in a crash. This is why you hardly ever see them.

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[smoknrv4]

Did they have a tail light also?

[bkm]

Yes, headlight and taillight.

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[smoknrv4]

Well I guess I'll have to hunt down a wiring harness also then as I only seem to have to front half of the harness on mine. I did manage to find a headlight today on eBay, just needs a little tlc.

[jeswinehart]

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/169469-Any-Interest-Wire-Harness-Reproduction?highlight=headlight+wiring

I have a very nice light wiring harness made by above for 84/85.

john

[jb2wheels]

On the plus side, the tail lights were the same as a bunch of other Team Green ATVs from the same era so they're easy to find. Patience can get you one off eBay under $15 shipped with the bracket. Think KLF110, KLT110, KLT250 etc

[jeswinehart]

Here is a picture of Corey's wiring for first gen Tecate.

[smoknrv4]

Pm sent jeswinehart.

[jeswinehart]

Jonathon, you send pm to Corey and I will text him to check his pm's. I see he has not logged in since the 11th.

Here is his profile info,,,, you can click the pm (private message) and send him off a message.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/member.php/28676-ps2fixer

I'm texting him in a few minutes.
john

[ps2fixer]

Who's this ps2fixer guy? :D

Anyway, do you just need the headlight wire, or is your main harness chopped up? I looked at my template and there is a headlight pig tail as John photoed, and behind it is the main harness in the bag. The main harness is quite small naturally compared to like a 350x harness.

[smoknrv4]

Hey there ps2fixer, I will look into it, as to what exactly I need. I just got this trike and haven't fully gone over it yet. It appears to have no wires at all going to the rear of the bike, that I know. I'll get back to you.:)

[ps2fixer]

On the plus side, the tail lights were the same as a bunch of other Team Green ATVs from the same era so they're easy to find. Patience can get you one off eBay under $15 shipped with the bracket. Think KLF110, KLT110, KLT250 etc

Just to expand on this post, here is a link of all machines that use the exact same tail light assembly including the bracket.

You can also buy some of the parts new yet, atleast partzilla still has them listed, haven't ran into anything out of production from them yet.

Interchange list -> http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-23024-4002.html

Lens -> http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-23026-4003.html
Lens Gasket -> http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-11009-4004.html
Bracket -> http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-23036-4004.html

Also the headlight pig tail sub harness is also listed yet for a pretty good price. I have a template made for it for if/when it goes out of production though.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-26011-4011.html

If for some reason they don't ship to Canada, let me know since I've been ordering quite a lot off them lately and I get free shipping to me.

[smoknrv4]

Thanks Cory! Here's some pics of my set up as is now. Where does the rear wires plug into and the front pig tail?

[ps2fixer]

Sadly, I've never seen a Tecate in person, I've just made a copy the harness that was sent to me.

Based on what I can see in the photos and the wire diagram (let me know if you need a copy of it), the yellow wire in the 2nd photo should come from the engine, and normally it plugs into the light on/off switch on the handle bar. Out of the switch would be a red wire that plugs into what I'd guess is the main harness, should be a red wire with a double bullet style connector. The wire diagram doesn't really match up to the part diagram after this point, the wire diagram makes it look like there is a sub harness running the the tail light that also has the headlight plug into the same spot while the part diagram only shows a main harness and the headlight sub harness.

If I had to guess, you're missing the headlight switch which seems very expensive on ebay for one of the years. I suspect the wiring coming out of that is what ties the taillight and headlight together. Maybe someone with a bit more experience can help here.

At least your frame is nice and clean, harness doesn't look in too bad of shape either.

[smoknrv4]

On the plus side, the tail lights were the same as a bunch of other Team Green ATVs from the same era so they're easy to find. Patience can get you one off eBay under $15 shipped with the bracket. Think KLF110, KLT110, KLT250 etc

The handlebar switch looks to be the same on these bikes also as the Tecate. I wonder if the wiring harnesses are the same also??

[smoknrv4]

Today I found out that the key had sheared off on the crankshaft for the flywheel, when trying to get it started. Had spark, gas, but not even a pop out of her. So that led me to check behind the flywheel cover. Then when I took the flywheel off I noticed the magnets coming unglued, oh no, I thought. Luckily the magnets hadn't moved yet. So I clamped each magnet where it was, and dremeled all the glue away, then re-epoxied them back on nice and solid. Now to just get a new key and re assemble.

[jeswinehart]

You done well investigating. So many tecate eletrical have been tore to heck and back by that sorry design for magnet securement.
You done it right by doing one magnet at a time so the two different polaritys did not get mixed up.
Say, if you still have the flywheel off it is a good time to check the stator plate screws for tightness.
It is actually highly recommended to lock tight them since the are the 2nd. Leading cause of may ham by loosing up and wadding up the magnets + eletricals.
I have been encapsulating the flywheel magnets for folks about 5 years now so if you'd like this done in the future,,, give me a shout.

John

[ps2fixer]

Not saying you did the repair wrong or anything, just wanted to mention jeswinehart fixes them up as well with a little different process. Here is the section from my core buyer's thread. Not sure what happened to the orig thread about the exchange program.


Tecate Flywheel (Thread (http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/176438-Tecate-flywheel-exchange-program))

223216

Buyer: jeswinehart (PM (http://www.3wheelerworld.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=136))




EDIT: Lol jeswinehart posted right before me and the attachment didn't show up... and now it did, weird.

[smoknrv4]

You done well investigating. So many tecate eletrical have been tore to heck and back by that sorry design for magnet securement.
You done it right by doing one magnet at a time so the two different polaritys did not get mixed up.
Say, if you still have the flywheel off it is a good time to check the stator plate screws for tightness.
It is actually highly recommended to lock tight them since the are the 2nd. Leading cause of may ham by loosing up and wadding up the magnets + eletricals.
I have been encapsulating the flywheel magnets for folks about 5 years now so if you'd like this done in the future,,, give me a shout.

John

Hey there some good suggestions there, about the stator. I plan on Locktiting the screws yeah for sure. I'll keep you in mind for re doing my flywheel, but for now I will put some faith in my fix. Lol! It's good to know there are people out there doing things like that for these ole girls.

[jb2wheels]

You're right - yellow to switch, red out of switch to harness.

No hi-low, just on-off.

84 and 85 use different switches.
The 84 switch is not too hard to find and is used on a couple of other Kawasakis. It is a housing with both the kill and light switch (http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/0ocAAOSw9uFW-U8Y/s-l225.jpg).
The 85 switch is nearly impossible to find and expensive if you do. It's a latching pushbutton switch. Kind of like this but with different connectors (http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/27/684327/001.jpg). Kill switch is separate.

I like the 84 switch better.
I use a parts store rocker switch to run the lights on my 85.


Sadly, I've never seen a Tecate in person, I've just made a copy the harness that was sent to me.

Based on what I can see in the photos and the wire diagram (let me know if you need a copy of it), the yellow wire in the 2nd photo should come from the engine, and normally it plugs into the light on/off switch on the handle bar. Out of the switch would be a red wire that plugs into what I'd guess is the main harness, should be a red wire with a double bullet style connector. The wire diagram doesn't really match up to the part diagram after this point, the wire diagram makes it look like there is a sub harness running the the tail light that also has the headlight plug into the same spot while the part diagram only shows a main harness and the headlight sub harness.

If I had to guess, you're missing the headlight switch which seems very expensive on ebay for one of the years. I suspect the wiring coming out of that is what ties the taillight and headlight together. Maybe someone with a bit more experience can help here.

At least your frame is nice and clean, harness doesn't look in too bad of shape either.

[smoknrv4]

You're right - yellow to switch, red out of switch to harness.

No hi-low, just on-off.

84 and 85 use different switches.
The 84 switch is not too hard to find and is used on a couple of other Kawasakis. It is a housing with both the kill and light switch (http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/0ocAAOSw9uFW-U8Y/s-l225.jpg).
The 85 switch is nearly impossible to find and expensive if you do. It's a latching pushbutton switch. Kind of like this but with different connectors (http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/27/684327/001.jpg). Kill switch is separate.

I like the 84 switch better.
I use a parts store rocker switch to run the lights on my 85.

Thanks for the info!:)

[ps2fixer]

You're right - yellow to switch, red out of switch to harness.

No hi-low, just on-off.

84 and 85 use different switches.
The 84 switch is not too hard to find and is used on a couple of other Kawasakis. It is a housing with both the kill and light switch (http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/0ocAAOSw9uFW-U8Y/s-l225.jpg).
The 85 switch is nearly impossible to find and expensive if you do. It's a latching pushbutton switch. Kind of like this but with different connectors (http://www.2040-parts.com/_content/items/images/27/684327/001.jpg). Kill switch is separate.

I like the 84 switch better.
I use a parts store rocker switch to run the lights on my 85.

Besides the different basic designs on the switches, are the hook ups the same? I can modify connectors to make either work.

There isn't a diagram or photo of the part, but this part number comes up for 84 and 85 Tecates:

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-27010-1183.html

Same part diagram lists a kill switch separate and even has photos. Both items are in stock.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-27010-1350.html

If there is interest, I can buy/stock these and modify as needed for different machines.

Also, this one for the 84 year shows up as in stock too for quite a bit more. Again I could modify to make it work for most machines most likely.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/kawasaki/KP-46091-1392.html


Kind of ironic, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha seem to continue to produce old parts for quite some time even though Honda has stopped production on a ton of their older parts.

[jb2wheels]

Besides the different basic designs on the switches, are the hook ups the same? I can modify connectors to make either work.


I'll go look when I get home. I have one of each now...

[jb2wheels]

Looks like my 85 main harness has been modified so I don't know for sure.

The 84 switch has four male bullet-head connectors (black, yellow, red, black/white) all the same length.

My 85 kill switch has 2 male bullet heads (black & black/white).

The switch wire lengths look like they end about the same place - just behind the headstock.

[ps2fixer]

Should have looked at my template, 84 and 85 main harnesses interchange, so the switches most likely interchange.