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ivan-083
07-13-2017, 05:18 AM
Hey guys
Wanted a 84 250r toolbox but missed out on it a few weeks back, went for like $222us if I remember. I did bid up to $200us, which is crazy Australian money! So I went through some old old post on here and found a picture of a 83 with a 85/86 toolbox. Will this work? Is this an 85/86 250r box?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170713/17a2e9e74809aa6d33ebe046f4c3020d.png
Will it just bold up to the right side of the grab bar like this? Has anyone done this? Will it work? Thanks Ivan


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Shawn Powell
07-13-2017, 09:36 AM
That's actually a 350x tool box. Same box just different lid top for the closing part. 250r and 200x had a flat cap. It might work. Depending on your level of restoration and wanting to keep it original, I have a 350x and recently lost my OEM tool box, so since mine is a modded rider I bought a brand new 400ex tool box and drilled a small hole in my grab bar , 46$ tool box and a 35 cent bolt I'm on the road again.


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Onetrackmind
07-13-2017, 03:27 PM
That's actually a 350x tool box. Same box just different lid top for the closing part. 250r and 200x had a flat cap. It might work. Depending on your level of restoration and wanting to keep it original, I have a 350x and recently lost my OEM tool box, so since mine is a modded rider I bought a brand new 400ex tool box and drilled a small hole in my grab bar , 46$ tool box and a 35 cent bolt I'm on the road again.


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Hey Shawn, I'm pretty dang positive that the '85 350x and 250r shared that tool box pictured above. That lid is to accommodate the spanner wrench that they both had in the tool kit.

In '86, the lid was changed to the flat one as I don't think Honda included the spanner any longer.




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yaegerb
07-13-2017, 03:37 PM
Hey Shawn, I'm pretty dang positive that the '85 350x and 250r shared that tool box pictured above. That lid is to accommodate the spanner wrench that they both had in the tool kit.

In '86, the lid was changed to the flat one as I don't think Honda included the spanner any longer.




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Winner, winner chicken dinner. Yes, you are correct sir. 86 didn't need a spanner cause the rear chain adjust was a little steel pin with a handle. 85 design was much better, but the spanner wrench was big, making for that weird looking cap.

Shawn Powell
07-13-2017, 04:10 PM
Hey Shawn, I'm pretty dang positive that the '85 350x and 250r shared that tool box pictured above. That lid is to accommodate the spanner wrench that they both had in the tool kit.

In '86, the lid was changed to the flat one as I don't think Honda included the spanner any longer.




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I thought the 250r was flat like the 200x, I stand corrected. [emoji106]


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Red Rider
07-13-2017, 05:15 PM
86 didn't need a spanner cause the rear chain adjust was a little steel pin with a handle.Actually, the chain adjustment on the '86 250R was accomplished via an Allen wrench. The Allen wrench, which was used to loosen the pinch bolts, was also used to rotate the carrier for chain adjustment.

yaegerb
07-13-2017, 05:56 PM
Actually, the chain adjustment on the '86 250R was accomplished via an Allen wrench. The Allen wrench, which was used to loosen the pinch bolts, was also used to rotate the carrier for chain adjustment.

BDT lied to us!

Red Rider
07-13-2017, 09:36 PM
BDT lied to us!Can't trust anyone these days! Or, perhaps Honda left the steel pin with the handle out of my toolbox. Hmmmm?

ivan-083
07-13-2017, 09:40 PM
Thanks boys the post it got it from said it was a 85 250r box so it's from a 350x 85 model?


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Shawn Powell
07-13-2017, 09:54 PM
Thanks boys the post it got it from said it was a 85 250r box so it's from a 350x 85 model?


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From has been stated to me the 85 250r and the 85/86 350x is the same box. The 86 250r has the same box but a different lid (flat like the 200x ) and also the 200x box would fit. Again for what they cost on steal bay ..... 400ex box lol.


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roostin atc
07-13-2017, 09:59 PM
Ivan you Aussie boys got it hard. Pm me your address and I'll send you a 350x box. All you need to cover is shipping.
I'm feeling good and am serious.

ivan-083
07-13-2017, 10:02 PM
From has been stated to me the 85 250r and the 85/86 350x is the same box. The 86 250r has the same box but a different lid (flat like the 200x ) and also the 200x box would fit. Again for what they cost on steal bay ..... 400ex box lol.


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Thanks Shawn, there is a cheap 200x box on steal bay, that would still fit right?


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Shawn Powell
07-13-2017, 10:17 PM
Thanks Shawn, there is a cheap 200x box on steal bay, that would still fit right?


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It should, now the cap will look different , will be flat but to my understanding the holes line up. Anyone confirm this please? I only own a 350x at this point in life. (At least for 3 wheelers )


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ivan-083
07-13-2017, 10:25 PM
Ivan you Aussie boys got it hard. Pm me your address and I'll send you a 350x box. All you need to cover is shipping.
I'm feeling good and am serious.

Pm sent! All you guys rock! Really appreciate your help! I don't really know you guys but you guys are so generous! Don't know what to say!
Just like joe fix it, buys parts for me sometimes and ships to me for half he cost!


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Onetrackmind
07-14-2017, 03:06 PM
I think the only problem that you will run into is lateral support for the box. The '86 boxes used some metal support stays like this:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/8c35da65f59944470f2c0747315d596f.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/561e5bece8b74cf744aa098be445b3c7.jpg
Where the '85r had spacers and a wire support hoop welded to the frame. The '85 350x had smaller metal stays to help w the support.

Either way, these boxes were designed to be on the left side of the frame and really need support. They are very easy to knock off.

I thought I would add a couple of side-by-side shots of an '85 (left) and an '86 (right) box for comparison.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/16766b0e3b8d0522142bc6312f0e1956.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/efb68605b9acb4ff1bb844be8c4479f1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170714/f943c1a3e5e1867d8e8c9bb8be0cd5ff.jpg


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Red Rider
07-14-2017, 06:16 PM
Thanks for the side by side comparison pics Onetrack. I thought I remembered the 250R's toolboxes were substantially different from '85 to '86. I always thought my '86 250R's toolbox looked quite clunky, compared to my brother's '85. It's an entirely different toolbox, rather than just a different lid.

Onetrackmind
07-14-2017, 06:58 PM
Yeah...it's funny, I have had both of these boxes for a couple of years and never thought to actually put them side x side. They are a lot different than I imagined.

I have been on the road for several days and this thread made me dig them out as soon as I got home!


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plumbercustoms
06-23-2019, 09:22 PM
I am looking for the 86 toolbox hardware if anyone has the support brackets