The Loneliest Man in the World

[El Camexican]

Check this dude out. What a sad story.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/07/23/amazing-amazon-sighting-worlds-loneliest-man-spotted-in-remarkable-video-footage.html

Then there's these guys.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4373014/Rare-footage-captures-Sentinelese-tribe-Indian-Ocean.html

Interesting world we live in.

[ironchop]

Cool story (s)

First guy's story seems extra tragic

The second group....I hope they keep being hostile to everyone that shows up. There should be at least one tribe left on the planet thats not infected with the Materialism Plague or suffering from Junk Food Cancer or reality TV.

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[El Camexican]

Cool story (s)

First guy's story seems extra tragic

The second group....I hope they keep being hostile to everyone that shows up. There should be at least one tribe left on the planet thats not infected with the Materialism Plague or suffering from Junk Food Cancer or reality TV.

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Given their close proximity to India I would imagine much of their hostility comes from past encounters with telemarketers.

[Scootertrash]

Given their close proximity to India I would imagine much of their hostility comes from past encounters with telemarketers.

Either that or Peggy


https://youtu.be/F8L2cI8brzQ

[83ATC185]

I got a kick out the article saying that they are the most vulnerable people on the planet because they don't get their flu shots and eat our food and wear our clothes, the little island has only sustained them for 60,000 years and the only reason they've survived as long as they have is because they protect their own :crazy:

[El Camexican]

I got a kick out the article saying that they are the most vulnerable people on the planet because they don't get their flu shots and eat our food and wear our clothes, the little island has only sustained them for 60,000 years and the only reason they've survived as long as they have is because they protect their own :crazy:

Good point. Given the chance I am sure the government would love to get in there and start taxing them.

[Shep1970]

The island natives- got me thinking/ after 60,000 yrs wouldn’t they all be atleast cousins by now.....wonder if that shipwreck crew were lunch. Bloodline must be getting pretty thin, the island isn’t that big.

Shep

[Dirtcrasher]

The person that shot the footage left him an I Phone.

Later, he fell off a waterfall while searching thru Facebook and Xhamster...

[El Camexican]

The person that shot the footage left him an I Phone.

Later, he fell off a waterfall while searching thru Facebook and Xhamster...

$10 bucks says he was looking at porn.

[Scootertrash]

Maybe we should employ the tactics that native island tribe uses on our southern border? Hell, all of our borders for that matter.

[El Camexican]

Maybe we should employ the tactics that native island tribe uses on our southern border? Hell, all of our borders for that matter.

No need, your orange haired scarecrow is good enough.

[redsox]

So, let me get this straight,,, They need money from us to put people in charge of leaving this guy alone? That sounds pretty dumb to me. Thats like eBay asking for more of information in order to "better protect my privacy." According to Officials........ the sky is falling.

[coolpool]

Given their close proximity to India I would imagine much of their hostility comes from past encounters with telemarketers.

LMFAO! Or technical support for phone/internet/cable. At least when they press '1' for English, they won't be able to understand either and might actually be happier:-)

[Scootertrash]

No need, your orange haired scarecrow is good enough.

Apparently not, since they keep coming.

[El Camexican]

Apparently not, since they keep coming.

Last I heard there’s more people leaving than coming in. The benevolent Mr. Trudeau is now trying to figure out what to do with all the people he invited into Canada. The ones in Northern Mexico are keeping my windshield spotless.

[Scootertrash]

If I drive down will they wash my truck for me?:naughty:;):D

[redsox]

"Lost Tribes" and stuff like that has always interested me. There is a very good documentary about Michael Rockefeller and the theory that he was captured in New Guinea and lived out his days as a tribesman. There is actually a really interesting video clip. Wild stuff. The fact is that the world gets smaller every day. Not only is the outside world "invading" as the bleeding hearts would have you believe, but the tribes themselves are curious about development and they are exploring outward. I don't believe for one second that the "last six members" of any tribe are being murdered for land. Another good one to watch is First Contact: Lost Tribe of the Peruvian Jungle. I think it was done by National Geographic. One day these Tribesmen just walk out of the jungle. Nobody had ever known they existed. Super primitive people. Noticeably lower on the evolutionary ladder. Its crazy to think whats still out there.

[redsox]

I think you really should go down and try some Ayahuasca .........so you can know what it`s really like to be a jungle bunny..........and all that stuff that Maynard has in his props can come true........the drummer starts beating..........and the worms float out of your eyes...........and you realize ............we`re all just little punk-arse bitches...........and we better be aware of whats coming next.............that little nerd Maynard ..........

I bet that lil' tree choppin' injun can swim.

[El Camexican]

If I drive down will they wash my truck for me?:naughty:;):D

Sure, but I doubt you'll appreciate all the dents their feet and knees will leave on the roof and hood.

[El Camexican]

"Lost Tribes" I don't believe for one second that the "last six members" of any tribe are being murdered for land.

Just curious as to why not? There's a reason most South American countries vote so far to the left (if given the chance) Brutal was an understatement when it came to the means companies used to gain mining and forest rights a few decades back. All the Do Good groups of the world combined can't help you in your rotting at the bottom of a valley.

Murder is an easy way to fix problems when there's no one around to report the crime. Just ask the American Indians, they were murdered in mass for land, but that won't be remembered for too many more generations, as the victors write the history books.

[El Camexican]

I bet that lil' tree choppin' injun can swim.

I'd like to nominate him as a contestant on "Naked and Afraid"

[redsox]

Just curious as to why not?

Well, because I think its crap. I think it likely did not happen. Reading this article, and researching a little more, I read that it was a cattle dispute, a land dispute, a farming dispute, and a logging dispute. All of this is "according to local officials." I think the little government agency down there was looking for a little press. They got it. That happy little story got picked up by the AP and was widely published last week. There dosent seem to be anything written about "the massacre" or "the attack" before a week ago, although it occurred in 1995.

[ironchop]

This thread is a demonstration of exactly why Noam Chomsky has A PhD in Linguistics....it's all in how you describe things depending on the message you're trying to push.

Nico and I usually agree on everything socially and politically except his perception of the tragic story of Native Americans versus my perception of the same people

Alot of folks, from my observation, have a much more critical approach to Natives versus White Europeans. I tend to think it's alot more complicated than just saying they got genocided over land. I think it should be looked at on a case by case basis and for us to consider context before allowing it all to be thrown under the genocide umbrella. The individuals are responsible and not the whole people who are forced to end up wearing the scarlet letter based on their ethnic similarity to the individual perpetrators.

Nicos right in that History is written by the victors and it absolutely had been infected with lies and deception in order to place one group firmly above the other ethically speaking in historical contexts for political purposes.

The problem today, is that the lying, omission, rewriting is now coming from the other side as well, in my opinion. I'm capable of being critical of myself and my perceptions so I've read the apologist's historical accounts as well as the historical accounts of guys like Howard Zinn. I think both contain kernels of Truth and knowledge but I know for certain that both are slanted and exaggerated for effect. This seems to be the case with several topics that involve white Europeans and anyone else that's not white or the whole North/South thing that people keep dwelling on.

My English/Norman paternal side arrived in about 1630. My maternal Irish side showed up about 1849. I know I'm supposed to believe they all just jumped off the boat and immediately started shootin ever damn 'Redskin' they seent because muh 'manifest destiny'.... But I don't. I don't believe that the simplistic version of events that is being taught today is anymore truthful than the simplistic version I learned in 1979. It's just completely slanted the other way. I don't care about what my forefathers and mother's did anyway because these are their sins to burn in hell for and not mine.

I think it's tragic that so much culture got destroyed over territory claims but I know for certain that native Americans weren't just peacefully sitting around trading kindly with all their neighbors when "white people" showed up with guns blazing and smallpox blankets to hand out as the story is often slanted.

I also knew better in 1979 when teachers told us that the Puritans were "just sitting around doing nothing when dem injuns attacked for no good reason and that Miles Standish was forced, I say forced to kill innocent injuns to make a point dat he is God's Will and stronger than them savages"

Those are both slanted accounts.

Heres my take:
I think that a group mixed with barbarians and peaceful people alike, crashed into another group mixed with barbarians and peaceful people alike and the side who had more advanced weapons won the war. I don't think one side was any worse than the other. It's humans being humans doing human stuff. I think the victors got land that was stolen from people who had stolen that very same land from the people before them that stole it from someone else before them, who had stolen it from the people before all of them. The proof is in the DNA.

For example..I read an article the other day that said "the Spanish conquistadors didn't bring Spanish women with them so they raped Taino women and created Mestizos in the process"....... wow. Cut and dried. Matter of fact, or so it would seem. So the message appears be that Conquistadors captured and raped Indian woman as opposed to abstinence or buying sex slaves to rape and that Mestizos are the product of Spanish rape and that no sex between a Taino and a Spaniard could have been consensual whatsoever or a prostitution transaction even though we know that in some societies, females were property and could be traded for sexual slavery or arranged marriage ("arranged marriage" is the PC term) ..... Sexual slavery and arranged marriage was considered normal to natives and Europeans alike. But wether the statement was partially true or not, the message is that Spaniards rape innocent Indian women. Period. No context. No proof. Anecdotes and generalizations are dangerous and misleading. If you are suspicuous of the written account of a total stranger today, then why not be just as suspicious of a written account of a random dead guy from six hundred years ago? It's not like lying was invented in 1776.... And just because I said I doubt it happened exactly as it's told doesn't mean I don't believe it happened. It means I have problems with the stories and the objectivity of the people who create them.

THIS is what linguists study.... Language and how it shapes thought and perception, semantics, etc.

They tried to trace where the "smallpox" blanket myth came from. ALOT of people believe that Americans routinely gave Indians blankets covered in smallpox in order to kill them and steal their land. This blatantly ignores the fact that it was only mentioned as a suggestion between one English nobleman writing to another in one letter and that you'd end up giving Europeans who contacted the same blankets the smallpox as well unless you found a now immune survivor from a previous infection to run the blanket store. The context of where the idea came from as well as the lack of any other evidence to back up the claim, that there was a concerted effort to use bio warfare on natives, proves that it's a baseless claim. Nevertheless, that seed was planted in the minds of kids who grew up into adults who now believe that it's historical fact. Perceptions shaped due to false information.


Another example:
Noam Chomsky has some good points in some of his book passages but it's all dependent on the perceptions of the reader as to wether or not they agree with him. So when you consider that the writer is a PhD linguist, it reminds you that the message has been carefully crafted by the writer who has a doctorate in carefully choosing one's word's in order to mold someones perception of the message in order to push an agenda.... which is the problems and solutions that he adresses (he floats between Anarchism and Socialism). I'm therefore wary of Chomskys anecdotal evidence and "scientific" evidence both because I realize he's basically a professional story teller and speech writer and therefore capable of twisting my perceptions if I'm not aware of the critical truths involved.

I say question everything you've been told no matter what direction it comes from. The Truth is somewhere in the middle.









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[El Camexican]

Believe it or not I agree with you on all most if not all points above. Might even add a few like my belief that the so called First Nations did themselves a big favor by not keeping records that would have shown that they likely wandered into someone's else's yard along with many others thus invalidating their claims of "First", or that even though they claim to be the original conservationists and live in harmony with nature there is evidence that they drove a few species to extinction with their unsustainable hunting methods. Some of them still kill for fun to this day, but they use fire sticks instead of bows and spears as should have been the arraignment in my opinion. I just like to mention the tribes and the pre-1848 maps of Mexico once in a while to chum the waters and provoke discussion.

I recall that when Michelle Obama found out she had a little Caucasian DNA in her it was immediately attributed it to a rape by some. WTF? How does anyone know it was rape and that old aunty Melvinia didn't just like to ride the white pony when the sun went down?

There are three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

[redsox]

This thread is a demonstration of exactly why Noam Chomsky has A PhD in Linguistics....it's all in how you describe things depending on the message you're trying to push.

Nico and I usually agree on everything socially and politically except his perception of the tragic story of Native Americans versus my perception of the same people

Alot of folks, from my observation, have a much more critical approach to Natives versus White Europeans. I tend to think it's alot more complicated than just saying they got genocided over land. I think it should be looked at on a case by case basis and for us to consider context before allowing it all to be thrown under the genocide umbrella. The individuals are responsible and not the whole people who are forced to end up wearing the scarlet letter based on their ethnic similarity to the individual perpetrators.

Nicos right in that History is written by the victors and it absolutely had been infected with lies and deception in order to place one group firmly above the other ethically speaking in historical contexts for political purposes.

The problem today, is that the lying, omission, rewriting is now coming from the other side as well, in my opinion. I'm capable of being critical of myself and my perceptions so I've read the apologist's historical accounts as well as the historical accounts of guys like Howard Zinn. I think both contain kernels of Truth and knowledge but I know for certain that both are slanted and exaggerated for effect. This seems to be the case with several topics that involve white Europeans and anyone else that's not white or the whole North/South thing that people keep dwelling on.

My English/Norman paternal side arrived in about 1630. My maternal Irish side showed up about 1849. I know I'm supposed to believe they all just jumped off the boat and immediately started shootin ever damn 'Redskin' they seent because muh 'manifest destiny'.... But I don't. I don't believe that the simplistic version of events that is being taught today is anymore truthful than the simplistic version I learned in 1979. It's just completely slanted the other way. I don't care about what my forefathers and mother's did anyway because these are their sins to burn in hell for and not mine.

I think it's tragic that so much culture got destroyed over territory claims but I know for certain that native Americans weren't just peacefully sitting around trading kindly with all their neighbors when "white people" showed up with guns blazing and smallpox blankets to hand out as the story is often slanted.

I also knew better in 1979 when teachers told us that the Puritans were "just sitting around doing nothing when dem injuns attacked for no good reason and that Miles Standish was forced, I say forced to kill innocent injuns to make a point dat he is God's Will and stronger than them savages"

Those are both slanted accounts.

Heres my take:
I think that a group mixed with barbarians and peaceful people alike, crashed into another group mixed with barbarians and peaceful people alike and the side who had more advanced weapons won the war. I don't think one side was any worse than the other. It's humans being humans doing human stuff. I think the victors got land that was stolen from people who had stolen that very same land from the people before them that stole it from someone else before them, who had stolen it from the people before all of them. The proof is in the DNA.

For example..I read an article the other day that said "the Spanish conquistadors didn't bring Spanish women with them so they raped Taino women and created Mestizos in the process"....... wow. Cut and dried. Matter of fact, or so it would seem. So the message appears be that Conquistadors captured and raped Indian woman as opposed to abstinence or buying sex slaves to rape and that Mestizos are the product of Spanish rape and that no sex between a Taino and a Spaniard could have been consensual whatsoever or a prostitution transaction even though we know that in some societies, females were property and could be traded for sexual slavery or arranged marriage ("arranged marriage" is the PC term) ..... Sexual slavery and arranged marriage was considered normal to natives and Europeans alike. But wether the statement was partially true or not, the message is that Spaniards rape innocent Indian women. Period. No context. No proof. Anecdotes and generalizations are dangerous and misleading. If you are suspicuous of the written account of a total stranger today, then why not be just as suspicious of a written account of a random dead guy from six hundred years ago? It's not like lying was invented in 1776.... And just because I said I doubt it happened exactly as it's told doesn't mean I don't believe it happened. It means I have problems with the stories and the objectivity of the people who create them.

THIS is what linguists study.... Language and how it shapes thought and perception, semantics, etc.

They tried to trace where the "smallpox" blanket myth came from. ALOT of people believe that Americans routinely gave Indians blankets covered in smallpox in order to kill them and steal their land. This blatantly ignores the fact that it was only mentioned as a suggestion between one English nobleman writing to another in one letter and that you'd end up giving Europeans who contacted the same blankets the smallpox as well unless you found a now immune survivor from a previous infection to run the blanket store. The context of where the idea came from as well as the lack of any other evidence to back up the claim that there was a concerted effort to use bio warfare on natives process that it's a baseless claim but that seed was planted in the minds of kids who grew up into adults who now believe that it's historical fact. Perceptions shaped due to false information.


Another example:
Noam Chomsky has some good points in some of his book passages but it's all dependent on the perceptions of the reader as to wether or not they agree with him. So when you consider that the writer is a PhD linguist, it reminds you that the message has been carefully crafted by the writer who has a doctorate in carefully choosing one's word's in order to mold someones perception of the message in order to push an agenda.... which is the problems and solutions that he adresses (he floats between Anarchism and Socialism). I'm therefore wary of Chomskys anecdotal evidence and "scientific" evidence both because I realize he's basically a professional story teller and speech writer and therefore capable of twisting my perceptions if I'm not aware of the critical truths involved.

I say question everything you've been told no matter what direction it comes from. The Truth is somewhere in the middle.









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Chop,,, excellent post. Thank you. I could not agree more. Very eloquent. Well done.

[El Camexican]

Chop,,, excellent post. Thank you. I could not agree more. Very eloquent. Well done.

He is good, ain't he? I wish he'd write a book.

[Arky-X]

He is good, ain't he? I wish he'd write a book.

I'm going to write a book someday. It is going to be called;
Equal Rights Begins with the Toilet Seat

I will have one chapter reserved just for ironchop.

[El Camexican]

I'm going to write a book someday. It is going to be called;
Equal Rights Begins with the Toilet Seat

I will have one chapter reserved just for ironchop.

LOL!!! And here I am thinking all along that if any one of us on this site ever wrote a book it would have to be called The Redneck Chronicles

[keister]

I'm going to write a book someday. It is going to be called;
Equal Rights Begins with the Toilet Seat

I will have one chapter reserved just for ironchop.

Chapter 2: Can You Urinate Over a Fence?