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h4ck.b0x7
09-29-2018, 12:00 AM
Can somebody help me out with this. There are 3 kickstarter pinion gears listed:

28211-965-020
28211-965-680
28211-KT0-770

28211-965-020 was superseded by 28211-965-680, I understand that.

What’s up with 28211-KT0-770?? It also lists 21 Teeth in the description.

It gets weirder, if you select 28211-965-680 it lists 28211-KT0-770 in the description. However, if you select 28211-KT0-770 it makes no mention of 28211-965-680.

Also, none of the other gears in the assembly were changed through the years.

So, which one should I order??

254821
254822
254823

ZachH
09-30-2018, 07:13 PM
If memory serves me correctly the 83 model had some issues so Honda redesigned it for 84 and 85. I believe they were compatible for all years. The numbers were replaced so when ordering for an 83 you got the upgraded part. At least that's what I was told. Someone may be able to correct me if I am wrong.

h4ck.b0x7
09-30-2018, 07:18 PM
If memory serves me correctly the 83 model had some issues so Honda redesigned it for 84 and 85. I believe they were compatible for all years. The numbers were replaced so when ordering for an 83 you got the upgraded part. At least that's what I was told. Someone may be able to correct me if I am wrong.

There were issues but an upgrade kit was released for 83-85. If it was fixed by 84 wouldn’t they Market the kit as 83 only?

ZachH
09-30-2018, 07:25 PM
These 200x Kickstarts are notorious for slippage with age and many people have issues so, I'm sure that's the reason. If you do a search you will see many people back-cut the ratchet gears. I highly recommend doing that while you have the cases split

h4ck.b0x7
09-30-2018, 07:48 PM
Yeah, I have another thread about using a ratchet spring from an XR200. I was going to tear it apart and some point and replace the gears with new ones, if I do I might as well back cut them as well.

shortline10
09-30-2018, 08:13 PM
The 83 200x has a different kicker ratchet setup and is not compatible with the 84/85 models . 83 model has a different tooth count .

h4ck.b0x7
09-30-2018, 08:16 PM
The 83 200x has a different kicker ratchet setup and is not compatible with the 84/85 models . 83 model has a different tooth count .

I should have mentioned this is an 84. Nobody has answered my original question.

shortline10
09-30-2018, 08:22 PM
The 965 has been discontinued for ever and Xr model will work but they have been on national back order for a while .
Type in the part number on eBay , theirs usually a few nos available .







I should have mentioned this is an 84. Nobody has answered my original question.

h4ck.b0x7
09-30-2018, 08:24 PM
The 965 has been discontinued for ever and Xr model will work but they have been on national back order for a while .
Type in the part number on eBay , theirs usually a few nos available .

So the KT0-770 is the one to get? Is that the XR one? Sorry, Honda part numbers seem confusing.

shortline10
09-30-2018, 08:30 PM
Yes 965 just designates 200x and KT0 is xr .

h4ck.b0x7
09-30-2018, 08:32 PM
Yes 965 just designates 200x and KT0 is xr .

Well that makes sense:

Part #-Vehicle Code-Revision