Delta variant

[fabiodriven]

UK Government Report: Vast Majority of Delta Variant Deaths Are VACCINATED People, NOT Unvaccinated People via @PatrickReports

https://nationalfile.com/uk-government-report-vast-majority-of-delta-variant-deaths-are-vaccinated-people-not-unvaccinated-people/

@KanekoaTheGreat

[Scootertrash]

FFS glamy! Fvcking give it up!

You do no research of your own, you blindly follow the people you hate because you think they're going to save your life (Think about that for a minute. Maybe 10 minutes). Ivermectin has been tested and proven safe and just like your sacred vaccine, it doesn't work for everyone. Pull your head out of your azz and think for yourself.

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[fabiodriven]

You have 0.0 credibility when you would promote the use of ivermectin witch is untested and unknown over the vaccines witch are proven to be effective in preventing hospitalizations...........it`s like promoting Quaaludes......your a horses azz !

What you took isn't a vaccine Glamy. Also-

A post by "KanekoaTheGreat"

The Evidence For Ivermectin And COVID-19

Ivermectin has been prescribed nearly 4-billion times for use in humans to treat parasitic and viral infections. Dr. Satoshi Omura won the Nobel Prize for Ivermectin in 2015 for the drugs use against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases.

In 2017, the scientific journal, Nature, published an article on Ivermectin describing it as a multi-faceted wonder drug with unexpected potential as an antibacterial, anti-viral, and anti-cancer agent. Ivermectin is on the WHO list of Essential Medicines with an unparalleled safety profile over decades.

The evidence for Ivermectin and COVID includes dozens of randomized controlled trials and peer reviewed studies. A large body of epidemiological evidence from around the world including countries such as India, Mexico, and nations in Central Africa.

In addition, the Tokyo Medical Association recently advocated for it's use against COVID. To claim that there is "no science" to support the use of Ivermectin for COVID is patently false.

The many hundreds of experienced critical care doctors around the world who have prescribed Ivermectin for COVID regardless of a patients vaccination status have of course provided the human form of the drug based on the available data and based on their own clinical experience and expertise.

And, to characterize this Nobel Prize winning drug prescribed for humans as "horse dewormer" is a complete and total lie by the corporate media!

https://rumble.com/vmf2bo-the-evidence-for-ivermectin-and-covid-19.html

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

I hate Government ........why do you keep tying them in with the vaccine ?..........oh would the vaccine be ok if Trump were president ?..........just because the demosh!ts cheated to win the white house ........that makes the vaccine bad ?...........i don`t give a flying fack about politics and i watched scootersh!ts video on the 4th industrial revolution.............POPPYCOCK !..........and if they make YOU do some you don`t want like micro chip .........good i`m glad you deserve it !

I didn't say anything about politics. My last post was a brief history of Ivermectin to correct your incorrect claims about the drug.

[fabiodriven]

Ivermectin has been FDA approved since 1996.

Your ethylene glycol shot is not FDA approved.

[fabiodriven]

It`s not approved for treating covid19 ..........tit for motherfacken tat............well i`m happy your sad .........BOOYAAA!

They might try to ban it in communist areas like the one you live in, but it has been used successfully to treat covid globally. It's certainly not illegal. Ivermectin has been prescribed successfully in people for decades. I shared multiple examples of that. I used it to treat my most recent case of covid myself and could feel an improvement within an hour. You're amazingly stupid.

[Scootertrash]

It`s not approved for treating covid19 ..........tit for motherfacken tat............well i`m happy your sad .........BOOYAAA!

mRNA has been around for 30 years and hasn't been approved for treating anything in humans, let alone combatting a virus.........until this virus. Then an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) is rushed thru to make it sound "approved", when it actually isn't. Pharmaceutical companies with political investors rake in billions in taxpayer dollars, increasing profits and money in the pockets of politician stockholders. All for a vaccine that doesn't protect you from getting sick or spreading it, minimizes the symptoms so you don't know you're spreading it, and only protects less than 2% of the population with comorbidities from dying......maybe.

But that's the whole story here isn't it glamy?? You have issues that make you more susceptible than others to dying if you get the virus. You got the shot, what are you afraid of??

YOU GOT YOUR VAX, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? IF IT WORKS SO WELL AND PROTECTS YOU, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF DO YOU? DO YOU??

[Scootertrash]

it is not approved for treating covid19... and cannot be prescribed by a licensed doctor

You're wrong again, yes it can be prescribed by a licensed doctor.

The only reason it's not approved for C-19 is there's no money to be made off of it for the pharmaceutical companies or their political investors.

[fabiodriven]

It`s not approved for treating covid19 ..........tit for motherfacken tat............well i`m happy your sad .........BOOYAAA!

You're getting medical advice from people who aren't doctors and ignore science.

https://youtu.be/MI_Dm3pj3dQ

[knappyfeet]

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Vaccines Failing Against Serious Disease Data From Israel Suggests

If the vaccines are highly effective against serious disease and death, why are the hospitalisation and death rates in Israel no better now than in 2020[emoji780]

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/09/22/vaccines-failing-against-serious-disease-data-from-israel-suggests/

@KanekoaTheGreat


At the end of the day it's a personal choice.

I chose to get vaccinated. My wife now is fully vaccinated....begrudgingly. I feel it's a good decision to get vaccinated and would recommend it to others.

I've read most of your links but 2 have me at pause. One is the Texas prison covid cases that ironically if you read into it prove trained immunity works and is working in that case.....but the other is this one. This one has to be the most misinformation, fake news award winning click bait adgenda driven internet articles I've read yet. They don't even tell you the pool of new COVID-19 cases is made up of the vaccinated and the unvaccinated together lol!.....trying to lead the reader into thinking these vaccines are ineffective!...unreal! We all know most hospitalizations for covid are the unvaccinated.....unbelievable!

So i've decided to share a link I've been following for some time. Israel is one to follow as it has done more quicker than any other country...and it shows. It has the lowest death rate of any modern country by far. And it really shows again what we already know.....that the unvaccinated are the driving factor of new COVID-19 cases....period...end of story.

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/these-unvaccinated-10-fuel-israel-s-covid-crisis-1.10251639

What isn't in these numbers are individual stories/conditions..... some vaccinated people have that make them severe or needing hospitalization.....even after being fully vactionated. It's these individuals with respiratory issues or liver issues or immune compromised issues that this vaccine is helping ...even in their darkest times. Folks going through chemotherapy.......it's these people that it benefits the most....high risk individuals. To say it's a government/pharmaceutical scam and they don't need it is irresponsible and inaccurate. Especially if ones source for information is click bait crap.

[fabiodriven]

At the end of the day it's a personal choice.

I chose to get vaccinated. My wife now is fully vaccinated....begrudgingly. I feel it's a good decision to get vaccinated and would recommend it to others.

I've read most of your links but 2 have me at pause. One is the Texas prison covid cases that ironically if you read into it prove trained immunity works and is working in that case.....but the other is this one. This one has to be the most misinformation, fake news award winning click bait adgenda driven internet articles I've read yet. They don't even tell you the pool of new COVID-19 cases is made up of the vaccinated and the unvaccinated together lol!.....trying to lead the reader into thinking these vaccines are ineffective!...unreal! We all know most hospitalizations for covid are the unvaccinated.....unbelievable!

So i've decided to share a link I've been following for some time. Israel is one to follow as it has done more quicker than any other country...and it shows. It has the lowest death rate of any modern country by far. And it really shows again what we already know.....that the unvaccinated are the driving factor of new COVID-19 cases....period...end of story.

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/these-unvaccinated-10-fuel-israel-s-covid-crisis-1.10251639

What isn't in these numbers are individual stories/conditions..... some vaccinated people have that make them severe or needing hospitalization.....even after being fully vactionated. It's these individuals with respiratory issues or liver issues or immune compromised issues that this vaccine is helping ...even in their darkest times. Folks going through chemotherapy.......it's these people that it benefits the most....high risk individuals. To say it's a government/pharmaceutical scam and they don't need it is irresponsible and inaccurate. Especially if ones source for information is click bait crap.

I just read the article I shared again and it's not at all what you're claiming. It's very concise and they provide all the numbers. I didn't see anywhere they're messing with numbers like you say. They're speaking specifically about the people who are jabbed, not total cases including those smart enough to not get jabbed.

Conversely, the article you shared reads like pure propaganda. I understand if you're not able to see that. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be free to inject themselves with chemicals and antifreeze if they'd like to, but stop calling it a vaccine because it's not a vaccine.

[fabiodriven]

YEP all ya gotta do is prove dem wrong and............................................... ........................ POOF HILLBILLY BE GONE.......................hillbilly spray sold separately

Oh we're not wrong, it's just tiresome trying to debate stupid scared sheep. You've never had covid, never taken ivermectin, but for some reason you think you're the authority here? I've had covid and I've taken ivermectin, just like millions of other people, and it works.

Conversely your jab has antifreeze in it, doesn't protect you from getting the virus, doesn't prevent transmission, and if your jab is so good it shouldn't matter if we get it or not, right? Isn't that how vaccines work? You take them once and you're immune. Oh but this jab you need to take four times. You know why that is stupid? Because it's not a vaccine. You've been duped.

Senator Ron Johnson brings up Public Health England's data showing 63% of delta deaths occurring in the fully vaccinated over the last 7.5 months.

https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1443777704994672644?s=19

[fabiodriven]

LIES LIES LIES LIES ................i don`t even read your post .................................................. ...........................CAUSE YOUR A LIAR !

You as well as everyone here know how truthful I am. Watch senator Ron Johnson present you with some facts for your consideration instead of hiding in the fake world CNN built in the spot where your brain used to be.

[fabiodriven]

You`ve been going to therapy like a good boy ............haven`t you ............and how does that make you feel ?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

My therapy is being in the woods away from Massachusetts. You know, that big mistake I made moving to the woods?

[fabiodriven]

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The CDC reports that over 80% of adverse events, hospitalizations, and deaths from the COVID-19 vaccines occur within 14-days of getting vaccinated.

The CDC doesn't consider people vaccinated until 14-days after the 2nd dose with Pfizer and Moderna.

In other words, the CDC is counting over 80% of vaccine adverse events, hospitalizations, and deaths as unvaccinated.

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

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[fabiodriven]

Bombshell interview, recorded minutes ago:
BREAKING: Attorney Thomas Renz reveals DoD data proving covid vaccines WORSEN infections and hospitalizations

https://www.brighteon.com/c3c52dd7-7db9-4e1c-b386-58b9a6c97f5b

[fabiodriven]

Pathogenic injection #ADE deaths exposed! The Department of Defence has officially released data that effectively proves that the injections are indeed pathogenic.
#covid19 #vaccines
“…The alarming findings show that the vast majority of covid hospitalizations are occurring among fully-vaccinated individuals and that outcomes among the fully vaccinated are growing worse with each passing week. This appears to fit the pattern of so-called Antibody Dependent Enhancement, where the treatment intervention (mRNA vaccines) is worsening health outcomes and leading to excess hospitalizations and deaths.
These data, presented here, shatter the official Biden / Fauci narrative…”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-01-ai-powered-dod-data-analysis-program-project-salus-shows-ade-accelerating-fully-vaccinated.html

[fabiodriven]

The numbers of death after receiving the vaccine are MINISCULE compared to the number of lives it saves ..............over 90% of hospitalizations are of unvaccinated people PERIOD ...............END OF STORY !!...............answer me this .....Why do you want to promote lies and misinformation.

That's actually completely wrong. I provide receipts for everything I post. Everyone here knows you and your narrative are full of shite.

[Scootertrash]

The numbers of death after receiving the vaccine are MINISCULE compared to the number of lives it saves


I knew we would get to this eventually: Yea, it might kill some people, but it saves more people!!!

Got some actual, verifiable numbers on how many people have been "saved"? Nope, you don't. Because they can't publish numbers for something they don't know. Especially after they played fvck fvck games with the "died from" and "died with" numbers.

Would you sacrifice a family member to the vaccine glamy? One of your kids? Wife? Mother? Father?

[Scootertrash]

At the end of the day it's a personal choice.

I chose to get vaccinated. My wife now is fully vaccinated....begrudgingly.

If I may ask, what pre-existing conditions, if any, do you and your wife have that would require you to get vaccinated for a virus that is only has about a 2.0% fatality rate? And an approximate 1 to 5% chance of ending up in serious condition.

[Scootertrash]

So i've decided to share a link I've been following for some time.

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/these-unvaccinated-10-fuel-israel-s-covid-crisis-1.10251639

Talk about clickbait!!!

From the haaretz.com "about" page:



Haaretz is an independent daily newspaper with a broadly liberal outlook both on domestic issues and on international affairs.

Carrying on with the left wing narrative, yup no bias there!!

[Scootertrash]

What i love is after you read this .............you went hiding for a day .............there`s 186 million vaccinated people who feel just like Knappy and me .............your out numbered ...outclassed , outta touch and theres nothing to be gained by not vaccinating ...........EXCEPT ......DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH............................................. ........DEATH.....................YA RETARD ..............DEATH

Hiding? Me? :lol::rolleyes: man, you are pathetic........

Actually 181.2 million, about 55%. Hardly an overwhelming majority, but whatever you have to tell yourself so you can wallow in fear.

Wipe the foam off of your lips and answer me 2 simple questions:

If you have your vax that is so "safe and effective", why do you care if others get vaxxed?

Would you sacrifice a family member to a vaccine?

[knappyfeet]

If I may ask, what pre-existing conditions, if any, do you and your wife have that would require you to get vaccinated for a virus that is only has about a 2.0% fatality rate? And an approximate 1 to 5% chance of ending up in serious condition.

Fair enough...

Other than being over 50 and overweight by about 70 lbs I did it on the advice of my primary care physician. I also have a minor heart condition....very minor.... but it was the excess weight that drove his recommendation.

My wife is thin and in great health. The only reason she got vaccinated was the threat that after a government study/recommendation....airlines might require it for flying. We are flying to Ohio next weekend and she didn't want to be inadvertently grounded on potential new guidelines.

Ironically my entire family feels the way you and fab feel about it...that it's fake. I don't but they do. I guess you could say that I'm the only one in my family who voluntarily received it… everybody else was forced to by their employers. My one son works for me and I do not require it at my business......and I won't until I'm somehow forced to. We have some government contracts and I hear down the pipeline they are going to be requiring subcontractors and their employees to be vaccinated.

[Scootertrash]

Ironically my entire family feels the way you and fab feel about it...that it's fake.

Well, thanks for coming clean on the prexisting conditions. It would be nice if people were that honest about why they got the vaxx all the time. The other thing that chaps my hide is people lamenting how they lost a loved one to COVID that was "perfectly healthy", only to find out they were obese and had emphysema from smoking for 40 years.

First off, I don't think COVID is fake. It's another variation of the coronavirus that was first identified in the 60's and coronaviruses aren't going away anytime soon. The common cold is caused by a coronavirus, and people with lung issues can have long term side effects from just the common cold. The flu isn't a coronavirus, but still kills thousands of people every year, despite having a flu vaccine available since 1945:

From the CDC webpage:


CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2017-2018, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 79,000 (during 2017-2018).

I'm not getting a vaccine because:

I'm early 60's and extremely physically active, I retired in August from 35 years of being a concrete laborer. I got more exercise in a week than most people get in a year. I've continued to exercise since I retired, I run 1-1/2 miles every other day and do some sort of work out on the other days.

I don't have any health issues nor any of the comorbities related to fatal cases of COVID. I pass my yearly physical with flying colors every year, except for a slightly elevated cholesterol level, advised by my doctor that we'd monitor it.

Lastly, rushed development of a drug in less than 1/10th the time a drug usually takes for development and approval? "New technology" that's been around for something like 30 years and never been approved for human use, now all of a sudden it's good to go? I don't even upgrade Windows on my computer until it's been out a few years and all the bugs are worked out fer christ's sake.

Watching the VAERS graph (yes, a valid CDC tracking system for adverse effects from vaccines, see Fabs post) skyrocket, with no visible concern from "government health experts"? No studies checking into the bad side effects?

Monkey fvcking with the numbers of COVID deaths, counting people who died "with" the virus the same as those who died "from" the virus, there's a BIG difference in my book.

Constant moving of the goal posts: Masks won't do you any good, doctors only. OK, now everybody needs to wear a mask, but only for 2 weeks (1.5 years later :rolleyes:), OK, only large gatherings, WAIT!! Only in restaurants, but only when you walk to your table, then you can take it off. Now you should wear 2 masks, now the vaccine makes you safe, well not really, you need to wear a mask even if you're vaccinated. Now you need a booster, wait! maybe not! Only if you're old.

People think these guys are experts??:lol::lol:

I've never had a flu shot. Last time I had the flu was 1995 (H1N1?) kicked my azz for a week and I'm a guy who never gets sick. I haven't had the flu since. Immune system anyone? I'm sure my high level of exercise and constantly being outside helps (vitamin D).

So, from my point of view there's no reason for me to take a chance on some hastily developed new fangled trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro.

I am current on my tetanus shot, and a couple years ago I went thru the rabies vaccine, so it ain't like I'm anti-vax. When they threaten, coerce, bribe, and force people to take a new drug, that doesn't sit well with me. Sh!t, I rarely take an advil. I'm not a fan of curing every little ailment with drugs.

glamy can rag on me all he wants. I find it interesting that he can't even answer "If the vaccine is so safe, and you got your shot, what do you have to worry about?

C'mon glamy, answer the question.......

[Scootertrash]

Hi Shep!!!!!!!!!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

[fabiodriven]

Hi Shep!!!!!!!!!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce

He was texting me yesterday, yep ahhhhhh... I'm that cool.

[Shep1970]

Hi Shep!!!!!!!!!!:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce:Bounce
Oh ya i'm usually lurking around here but now gotta go back watching vice grip garage on utube what an interesting fella he is.... watched The Wraith earlier w/charlie sheen. I forgot what a good movie that was.
have a good wk end guys. 1500 miles on the honda grom, hope to add a couple hundred more this wk end.... winters coming....
Ok back to COVID........:beer

shep

[fabiodriven]

Scooter I think Knappy (correct me if I'm wrong) was referring to you and I thinking the vax is fake, not the virus. I did think the virus was fake in the beginning for a few months, but I stopped thinking that long ago. I don't think the vax is fake, I think it's not what they're claiming. I think everyone is going to find out at some point that it was a really bad idea to have taken it.

I know covid isn't fake because I had it twice. Twice? How? I don't know, you tell me. Delta variant this time? Compromised immune system? I don't know. I'm thinking I got the variant. The first time was pure hell, 4-5 weeks worth. This most recent time wasn't fun but it was barely half of what it did to me the first time. The first time I had it I didn't think it was covid. I thought I was sick from drinking off my well. It wasn't until this most recent time I had it that I figured out what it was I had the first time.

[Red Rider]

watched The Wraith earlier w/charlie sheen. I forgot what a good movie that was.Ain't no match for the 'Cuda boy!

[Scootertrash]

Scooter I think Knappy (correct me if I'm wrong) was referring to you and I thinking the vax is fake, not the virus. I did think the virus was fake in the beginning for a few months, but I stopped thinking that long ago. I don't think the vax is fake, I think it's not what they're claiming. I think everyone is going to find out at some point that it was a really bad idea to have taken it.

I know covid isn't fake because I had it twice. Twice? How? I don't know, you tell me. Delta variant this time? Compromised immune system? I don't know. I'm thinking I got the variant. The first time was pure hell, 4-5 weeks worth. This most recent time wasn't fun but it was barely half of what it did to me the first time. The first time I had it I didn't think it was covid. I thought I was sick from drinking off my well. It wasn't until this most recent time I had it that I figured out what it was I had the first time.

Yea, I wasn't sure which so I flipped a coin.......

As far as the vax....yea they got one:rolleyes: but as we both know it ain't workin' like they said.

I bet people really believe that all these politicians and their "glamour shot photo-op vaxx3nasions" are real, when the truth of the matter is they're getting a shot of saline...not the vax.

I'm pretty sure I had it back in June, but it wasn't bad, felt like a hangover for 3 days. Didn't feel like the normal 24 hour bug or cold, it was different. Test was negative, but anybody who's been following this charade knows that the accuracy of the tests suck too.

What a lot of people don't know is that none of the COVID tests are FDA APPROVED either. People don't understand the difference between "approval" and "authorization"
All of the tests are just under an EUA:Emergency Use Authorization, that's NOT an APPROVAL.

Lastly: FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

[Scootertrash]

You`re the biggest jerk i`ve ever listen to............Fabio is a Jar head jerk............but you take the cake..............i`m so happy about your ANTI - VAXXER retardation because you and your wife are gonna die ..........BWAHAHAHAHAHA........I just saw a video where a guy much younger then you was in the hospital 4 weeks and while he was there he bought a Corvette dream car online because he didn`t know for sure he was gonna walk out of there alive .I have nothing to worry about cause i`m vaccinated .........period...............what makes you think i`m worried ? ............you keep axen me the same question ..........you better stay away from the grocery store , gas pumps , anyware public ......and when you start to feel sick ya just as well load your shot gun go out in the acreage find a nice quiet place and blow your brains out ...........and know that it was so worthwhile not to get vaccinated..........in case you forgot this is a biological weapon and it does not occur naturally and the Chinks released it intentionally ..........Fauci should be given a heavy dose of his own medicine .........DUMB FACKEN HILLBILLYS ...........oh the ego`s whats up with that ? ...........I told you before i just came back to stick in your ear Scootershat i`m glad your too stupid to do the right thing...........is that all ya got Damon ?..........young dumb and full of cum ..........is this the future of Merica ..........YEEEEEEEEEEW

If the vaccine is so safe, and you got your shot, what do you have to worry about and why do you care what others do?

Why are they letting illegals cross the border without a vax?

Why are we importing Afghans without requiring a vax?

[Scootertrash]

Fair enough...

Other than being over 50 and overweight by about 70 lbs I did it on the advice of my primary care physician. I also have a minor heart condition....very minor.... but it was the excess weight that drove his recommendation.

My wife is thin and in great health. The only reason she got vaccinated was the threat that after a government study/recommendation....airlines might require it for flying. We are flying to Ohio next weekend and she didn't want to be inadvertently grounded on potential new guidelines.

Ironically my entire family feels the way you and fab feel about it...that it's fake. I don't but they do. I guess you could say that I'm the only one in my family who voluntarily received it… everybody else was forced to by their employers. My one son works for me and I do not require it at my business......and I won't until I'm somehow forced to. We have some government contracts and I hear down the pipeline they are going to be requiring subcontractors and their employees to be vaccinated.

Not trying to be a d!ck here, but......

In addition to being vaxxed, have you developed a plan to fix your health? The vax isn't going to protect you from the health issues associated with being overweight. Getting healthier will protect you from a lot more than just a virus.;)

[Scootertrash]

except ......death death death death death............................................. ........death.....................ya retard ..............death

muuuuuaaaaahaahahaaahahhaaaa!!!!

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[Scootertrash]

Oh ya i'm usually lurking around here but now gotta go back watching vice grip garage on utube what an interesting fella he is.... watched The Wraith earlier w/charlie sheen. I forgot what a good movie that was.
have a good wk end guys. 1500 miles on the honda grom, hope to add a couple hundred more this wk end.... winters coming....
Ok back to COVID........:beer

shep

Don't worry shep, I vigorously encourage lurking!!!:naughty:

Be careful wid dem visegrips!!!:naughty::lol:

[Scootertrash]

SHEPPS turned into a real creepoid ...........and your gonna lecture people on how to be healthy ?.............you`ve all lost your mind .............get the gun get the gun ..........shoot shoot shoot...........suicide solution - Ozzy Osbourne ........thank you !

If the vaccine is so safe, and you got your shot, what do you have to worry about and why do you care what others do?
Why are they letting illegals cross the border without a vax?

Why are we importing Afghans without requiring a vax?

[knappyfeet]

So you got vaccinated voluntarily because you prefer to kill yourself with food? Why not lose the 70lbs which puts you at risk for heart disease which kills more people than covid by far? Your doctor SUCKS.

I agree with that statement except "your doctor sucks". One day I'll get back to my fighting weight

[fabiodriven]

You`re the biggest jerk i`ve ever listen to............Fabio is a Jar head jerk............but you take the cake..............i`m so happy about your ANTI - VAXXER retardation because you and your wife are gonna die ..........BWAHAHAHAHAHA........I just saw a video where a guy much younger then you was in the hospital 4 weeks and while he was there he bought a Corvette dream car online because he didn`t know for sure he was gonna walk out of there alive .I have nothing to worry about cause i`m vaccinated .........period...............what makes you think i`m worried ? ............you keep axen me the same question ..........you better stay away from the grocery store , gas pumps , anyware public ......and when you start to feel sick ya just as well load your shot gun go out in the acreage find a nice quiet place and blow your brains out ...........and know that it was so worthwhile not to get vaccinated..........in case you forgot this is a biological weapon and it does not occur naturally and the Chinks released it intentionally ..........Fauci should be given a heavy dose of his own medicine .........DUMB FACKEN HILLBILLYS ...........oh the ego`s whats up with that ? ...........I told you before i just came back to stick in your ear Scootershat i`m glad your too stupid to do the right thing...........is that all ya got Damon ?..........young dumb and full of cum ..........is this the future of Merica ..........YEEEEEEEEEEW

I'm not sure why you think calling us hillbillies and rednecks would be insulting to us. None of us want to live anywhere but in the country. I avoid cities like the plague, even the suburbs I steer clear of. Heck I just moved to the country away from all that.

Enjoy the feces on your sidewalk and your falling real estate values stupid. When things start to get crazy, you're unarmed and surrounded by people. People are going to go bananas and everything you have will be taken from you. It's likely you might die in the process. Where I live my neighbors and I would all work together, and anyone who came here looking for a problem would find out really fast this isn't a dead end they should have traveled up. Nobody would ever know anything even happened back here.

[Scootertrash]

I'm not sure why you think calling us hillbillies and rednecks would be insulting to us. None of us want to live anywhere but in the country. I avoid cities like the plague, even the suburbs I steer clear of. Heck I just moved to the country away from all that.

Enjoy the feces on your sidewalk and your falling real estate values stupid. When things start to get crazy, you're unarmed and surrounded by people. People are going to go bananas and everything you have will be taken from you. It's likely you might die in the process. Where I live my neighbors and I would all work together, and anyone who came here looking for a problem would find out really fast this isn't a dead end they should have traveled up. Nobody would ever know anything even happened back here.

Rural communities are more apt and able to live by the 3S rule:

Shoot
Shovel
Shut up

[Scootertrash]

Who do you work for ...............number 2 ?

If the vaccine is so safe and effective, and you got your shot, what do you have to worry about and why do you care what others do?

C'mon glam, y u skeerd to answer?

[Scootertrash]

Follow the money:

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/MRNA?qsearchterm=MRNA

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[Scootertrash]

I DON`T "CARE" about the 4 musketeers on 3ww . ...........i couldn`t allow you to spew LIES unabated on the internet...........do you understand ?...........do you understand ?............do you ........do you ..........do you understand ? ...........do you ............do you .........want my love ? ........do you .........do you ........want my dick ? ..........i need it...........do you ............do you.........want my sh!t ? ..........i`ll sell you it ! ......ELO lyrics ........thank you

All of the info I posted about the vaccinated still being susceptible to infection and transmitting the virus to others is from the CDC. Thank You for admitting that your overlords are lying to you.

Now, about all those unvax3d illegals crossing the border coming to infect you.....

Meanwhile, Beverly hills is letting innocent people die:

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[fabiodriven]

All of the info I posted about the vaccinated still being susceptible to infection and transmitting the virus to others is from the CDC. Thank You for admitting that your overlords are lying to you.

Now, about all those unvax3d illegals crossing the border coming to infect you.....

Meanwhile, Beverly hills is letting innocent people die:

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That picture isn't going to have the intended affect on Glamy, he's too scared and irrational. In his mind, that situation makes sense.

[fabiodriven]

India govt. declares most populated state officially COVID free after widespread use of ivermectin

https://rumble.com/vn8v7a-india-govt.-declares-most-populated-state-officially-covid-free-after-wides.html

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

Victims of the COVID Vaccines

752,801 Adverse Events
71,036 Hospitalizations
85,377 Urgent Care
6,737 Anaphylaxis
9,035 Bell's Palsy
2,262 Miscarriages
7,582 Heart Attacks
6,812 Myocarditis/Pericarditis
20,789 Permanently Disabled
15,937 Deaths

Why are public health officials and politicians ignoring the data[emoji780]

Why are they ignoring the victims of the COVID vaccine[emoji780]

https://rumble.com/vn8u8u-the-victims-of-the-covid-vaccines.html

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211003/b8d3c816b29e03a8694ee1527f8076fd.jpg

[fabiodriven]

India's Ivermectin Blackout: The Secret Revealed

With only 5% of Uttar Pradesh's 230 million people vaccinated, early treatment home kits wiped out an outbreak of COVID-19 dropping cases by 99% in three weeks.

What was in the home kits[emoji780]

Tylenol, Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [10 tablets].

The home kits cost less than $3 per person and brought the number of active cases to below 200.

This is remarkable considering the province had more than 310,000 active cases during the peak of its COVID outbreak.

In comparison, one course of Remdisivir cost $3,100 and is the standard of care in many US hospital systems even though the WHO has recommended against its use and meta-analysis studies have shown that it is ineffective against COVID-19.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout-secret-revealed

@KanekoaTheGreat

[Scootertrash]

Microscopic analysis of the covid vaccines were published by a non government scientist today. If it were water I wouldnt drink it. Lots of little sharp looking objects and branches fibers that look awful fvvked up to be going into my veins.



They're called "spike proteins" and they've been a concern to some scientists since the beginning.

[fabiodriven]

Who fkn cares. You're just as obsessed with it as the other side. Covid is bvllshlt vaccines are bullshit. Yall got sick boohoo.

Who cares? I do. So does everyone who has participated in this thread, including your stupid arse.

A bio-weapon has been deployed against people globally, a fake vaccine invented to put billions in the hands of bad people who are working hard for global domination, and there are multiple simple and cheap home remedies to treat the virus which are being suppressed by the same people propagating the threat and profiting from it. But who cares right?

Damon doesn't care because Damon's a wart on society's arse and wouldn't care if the whole world burned because it wouldn't be much of a downgrade from Damon's existence anyways. When you have to come on an internet forum with next to no traffic and conflate a bunch of bee ess about how much better you are than everyone else at everything and make up stories about things you supposedly own, then you care about different things than I do, yes. I care about the truth and the well being of this country. I get irked by lies, which I completely understand if that's something you cannot relate to. I'm not a fan of propaganda and the destruction it has caused globally, so yes, I care and I fight back. Honestly nobody cares that you don't care and nobody would expect you to care either, so do your thing loser.

If I were scared of being sick I wouldn't live my life mask and jab free, I'd be a panicked little b!tch like Glamy. I live every day in less than ideal health, I'm used to it. I've had this twice now and it's not fun but it's not at all what they're making it out to be. But because I shared the affordable and effective treatment I'm somehow boo-hooing? Because I care that people get the right treatment?

Dude seriously I have no idea why you come here. I used to think you were smart, but you've gotten wacky and stupid. There's a virus out there so we discuss it, then you discuss it but complain when we continue to discuss it. Makes a lot of sense, just like how MRE's are a bad idea to have when there's a food shortage coming lol.

You should just leave this forum. All you do is complain about the forum itself and everyone here, that's it. Nobody else besides you and the dumb wookie are complaining about this forum yet you continue to return to it. The two of you have major problems and are prime cases for the cleansing of the true virus gripping this country.

PS I wish your mommy hugged you more too.

[fabiodriven]

Anyways back to what I was saying, Glamy's a scared feeble little beta b!tch.

[fabiodriven]

Yes just in case anyone was wondering, I've been lying and making everything up as I go along. The thirty or so articles I've shared backed by scientific studies, first hand testimonials, and real world experience, I made them all up. All lies.

[fabiodriven]

John wants to murder anyone who doesnt agree with his political beliefs or confuses his tiny brain on the interwebs. Totally sane

John is a nationalist constiutionalist who puts our constitutional rights before any party affiliation. Treason against John's nation is punishable by death. Don't commit treason and you won't have to worry about being held accountable. Haven't committed treason? Then you have nothing to be scared of.

[fabiodriven]

Lol. Totally, 100% sane

You just admitted you're nuts and now you're calling me insane. Do I really care what your stupid ass thinks of me? You should try reading the federal constitution sometime.

I'm going to put you on ignore after this message because you've goaded me into wasting my time addressing you.

[fabiodriven]

Wanna bet? Not everyone is undisciplined and desperate for attention as you are.

[Shep1970]

You whiny little cuunt .............your facken halerious ............you lie threw your teeth............Damon knows how to push your buttons (i`m glad he`s here) or it would be a bore fest............oh no .....do you think he`ll put me on his ignore list ?...........oh no ......please don`t do it John .........where`s facken Mosh ? ..........Shepp your creeping me out

glamy i can make my name invisible so u cant see me lurkin, but thats too many buttons to push- thats ok if u feel creeped out- my life goes on either way.:D

[fabiodriven]

You whiny little cuunt .............your facken halerious ............you lie threw your teeth............Damon knows how to push your buttons (i`m glad he`s here) or it would be a bore fest............oh no .....do you think he`ll put me on his ignore list ?...........oh no ......please don`t do it John .........where`s facken Mosh ? ..........Shepp your creeping me out

Beta wimp. Damon just told you you're wrong and you're still up his arse. Cuck.

[Shep1970]

Please don`t use ignore list on Damon and me............this is way too much fun...........ain`t it fun when you know that you`re gonna die young ............it`s such fun ..........such fun ........such fun ..........Gunner`s b!tch !

At this point in time what comes to mind is those commercials in the 90's up to even maybe today if u recall think a lawyer/actor i think one was john socolov or something like that. Anyway he'd say along the lines of "if you lost a loved one due to some odd medication" and so on....... and sue for top dollar whatever.
Think i'll take my chances knowing what so-called treatment my own body gets if any.
Just think "future" for a minute lets say (just saying) i picture my kids are grown up with kids of there own and a commercial comes on about that covid shot and it screwed up some vital organ for so many people. yada yada yada.......

Guess its kinda dark/odd to think that way "but" at this time "NO ONE" knows what the outcomes will be from the shot.
Again at this point in time i'll take my chances.

shep

[El Camexican]

At this point in time what comes to mind is those commercials in the 90's up to even maybe today if u recall think a lawyer/actor i think one was john socolov or something like that. Anyway he'd say along the lines of "if you lost a loved one due to some odd medication" and so on....... and sue for top dollar whatever.
Think i'll take my chances knowing what so-called treatment my own body gets if any.
Just think "future" for a minute lets say (just saying) i picture my kids are grown up with kids of there own and a commercial comes on about that covid shot and it screwed up some vital organ for so many people. yada yada yada.......

Guess its kinda dark/odd to think that way "but" at this time "NO ONE" knows what the outcomes will be from the shot.
Again at this point in time i'll take my chances.

shep

Great example. The difference is that most of those products on the lawyers commercial underwent rigorous testing and multiple trials before they were FDA approved and hit the market….. and now we have this being forced on us.

At my age I’m more concerned about the fact that it’s being forced on us than I am potential side effects. They aren’t vaccinating the Haitians crossing borders though. Why not? Because I’m pretty sure it’s illegal by International law. If they started jabbing them and even one died all hell would break loose. “Americans inject and kill Haitian” would be the headline and there would be tribunals and such.

However, without a vaccine you can’t, work here, eat here, watch a game here is legal because they aren’t “forcing” us. And pretty soon it will be, shop here, bank here, get your drivers license, etc.

It’s absolute madness.

Do whatever you want, it’s your life, body and choice, all I ask for is

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[fabiodriven]

Quotes from BioNTech's SEC Filing To Investors (Feb 2020)

"Our investors currently include... the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation."

"On August 30, 2019, we entered into a letter agreement and an investment agreement with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, or BMGF, pursuant to which BMGF acquired 3,038,674 of our ordinary shares for $55 million at the price of our Series B financing."

First case of COVID-19 dates back to November 17, 2019 according to South China Morning Post and there are reports of a potential outbreak at the October 18-27, 2019 Military Games in Wuhan, China.

To summarize, Gates invested in BioNTech 1.5 - 2.5 months before the first COVID-19 cases.

October 1, 2021: BioNTech (BNTX) $254.79 per share
3,038,674 shares x $254.79 = $774,223,748.46
$774,223,748.46 - $55,000,000 = $719,223,748.46

Since August 30, 2019, Gates made $719 million in profit on his $55 million BioNTech investment.

Considering he has larger investments in Pfizer and Moderna - how much do you think Bill Gates is profiting from these mandates forcing vaccinations[emoji780]

"We are a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company with no pharmaceutical products approved for commercial sale."

"No mRNA immunotherapy has been approved, and none may ever be approved, in this new potential category of therapeutics. mRNA drug development has substantial clinical development and regulatory risks due to the novel and unprecedented nature of this new category of therapeutics."

"To our knowledge, there is no current precedent for an mRNA-based immunotherapy such as the type we are developing being approved for sale by the FDA, European Commission or any other regulatory agency elsewhere in the world."

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312520022991/d838504df1.htm

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

60% of Iceland's Third COVID-19 Wave Was Fully Vaccinated

Despite achieving one of the highest vaccination rates in the world, Iceland was hit with a new wave of COVID-19 cases starting around the third week of July.

According to Iceland's Directorate of Health (DOH), over the last 2.5 months, 60% of domestic coronavirus infections were fully vaccinated, 38% were unvaccinated, and 2% were partially vaccinated.

In other words, between July 10, 2021 and September 30, 2021, there were 2,940 fully vaccinated, 1,870 unvaccinated, and 105 partially vaccinated coronavirus infections in Iceland.

This comes two days after Senator Ron Johnson shared Public Health England's data to Congress showing 63% of deaths in England over the last 7.5 months were fully vaccinated.

How is it possible that public health officials in the United States say that we have a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" when the data from public health officials in England and Iceland says otherwise[emoji780]

https://www.covid.is/data

@KanekoaTheGreat

[El Camexican]

Oh it`s being forced on you...........Oh it`s absolute madness.........do whatever you want ............it`s your body........ your Vagina............meanwhile in other sports Ca is the first to mandate all teachers and students be vaccinated in the public schools and wear mask.............theres your choice ...........i sure am glad you and John John are getting along so well these days..........hi John John:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dear three wheeler world member,

The person to whom you have responded is currently ignoring you. Please try again after you have pulled your head out of your ass.

[Scootertrash]

Dear three wheeler world member,

The person to whom you have responded is currently ignoring you. Please try again after you have pulled your head out of your ass.

:lol::lol:

[Scootertrash]

At this point in time what comes to mind is those commercials in the 90's up to even maybe today if u recall think a lawyer/actor i think one was john socolov or something like that. Anyway he'd say along the lines of "if you lost a loved one due to some odd medication" and so on....... and sue for top dollar whatever.

shep

Good Luck with filing a lawsuit:


You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html


If you experience severe side effects after getting a Covid vaccine, lawyers tell CNBC there is basically no one to blame in a U.S. court of law.

The federal government has granted companies like Pfizer and Moderna immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.

“It is very rare for a blanket immunity law to be passed,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. “Pharmaceutical companies typically aren’t offered much liability protection under the law.“

You also can’t sue the Food and Drug Administration for authorizing a vaccine for emergency use, nor can you hold your employer accountable if they mandate inoculation as a condition of employment.

[Shep1970]

No lawsuit scooter- I'd want payment in flesh from those responsible and i don't think i'd be alone. (insert evil laugh)
just saying "if" it came to that. :twisted: :beer
shep

[Scootertrash]

At this point in time what comes to mind is those commercials in the 90's up to even maybe today if u recall think a lawyer/actor i think one was john socolov or something like that. Anyway he'd say along the lines of "if you lost a loved one due to some odd medication" and so on....... and sue for top dollar whatever.
Think i'll take my chances knowing what so-called treatment my own body gets if any.
Just think "future" for a minute lets say (just saying) i picture my kids are grown up with kids of there own and a commercial comes on about that covid shot and it screwed up some vital organ for so many people. yada yada yada.......

Guess its kinda dark/odd to think that way "but" at this time "NO ONE" knows what the outcomes will be from the shot.
Again at this point in time i'll take my chances.

shep

Pfizer just recalled Chantix:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pfizer-recalls-all-lots-anti-smoking-drug-chantix-over-carcinogen-n1279503


Long-term ingestion of the drug can lead to a "potential increased cancer risk in humans, but there is no immediate risk to patients taking this medication." mymint87

15 years on the market before a recalled for cancer causing ingredients

https://www.mdlinx.com/article/10-dangerous-drugs-recalled-by-the-fda/lfc-4008

That's just one. Pfizer has paid out billions in fines.

https://www.drugwatch.com/manufacturers/Pfizer/

Recalls start about halfway down the page

Moderna?

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-taiwan-32bcb3cdf38e417237a7ca4a9feb818e


Moderna Inc. and its Japanese partner are recalling more than 1 million doses of the U.S. drug maker’s coronavirus vaccine after confirming that contamination reported last week was tiny particles of stainless steel.

Johnson and Johnson?

https://www.drugwatch.com/manufacturers/johnson-and-johnson/

Recalls and lawsuits start about halfway down th epage.

[Scootertrash]

No lawsuit scooter- I'd want payment in flesh from those responsible and i don't think i'd be alone. (insert evil laugh)
just saying "if" it came to that. :twisted: :beer
shep

Would this solution involve lamp posts? :naughty:

[Scootertrash]

Five passengers on first post-COVID cruise from NYC test positive:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/five-passengers-on-first-post-covid-cruise-from-nyc-test-positive/

Such an effective vaccine...:rolleyes:

[Scootertrash]

Oh thinking about a cruise for you and your wife ?............think again jackoff..........now that you finally retired .............your life is gonna suck put on your mask ! ........Oh did you want a new car ?..........foget about it.........save your ammo so you can blow your brains out !:rolleyes:

glamys skeered.....bad health.....bad habits..........shot dat.....dont...werk...bbaaaa---aaaaa...u'll dy wid a tube down yer throat....but yer used to dat...toob steak...

wut ammo?..I gotz no guns..guns are icky.....I'm actually polishing:naughty::Bounce.......ammo rite....now:Bounce:Bounce...fer...dat kustum bb gun....I baughts frum guymanpeeson....on...da ...ebays:shiftyeyes: him wantz.....da dubble tripple safe bakround check.....too...ez...to..buy dem gunz

[Scootertrash]

:lol::naughty:

glamy yer fooked

CDC director Rochelle Walensky now admits that the vaccine cannot prevent transmission.

https://t.me/disclosetv/4930

[Scootertrash]

Hey fabs!! Ain't it interesting that the quote from you in my sigline is being acted out right in front of our eyes??



Originally Posted by fabiodriven
Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

[fabiodriven]

Hey fabs!! Ain't it interesting that the quote from you in my sigline is being acted out right in front of our eyes??

The funny thing is when I wrote that I had a completely different world view and didn't even know how much worse things were going to get. I was immersed in democratic culture and hadn't even realized how much it had permeated me. I never thought we'd end up where we are now, ever. This is just clown world right now.

[El Camexican]

glamys skeered.....bad health.....bad habits..........shot dat.....dont...werk...bbaaaa---aaaaa...u'll dy wid a tube down yer throat....but yer used to dat...toob steak...

wut ammo?..I gotz no guns..guns are icky.....I'm actually polishing:naughty::Bounce.......ammo rite....now:Bounce:Bounce...fer...dat kustum bb gun....I baughts frum guymanpeeson....on...da ...ebays:shiftyeyes: him wantz.....da dubble tripple safe bakround check.....too...ez...to..buy dem gunz

Had to double check who posted that :lol:

[fabiodriven]

Hi john john ...............DUH !...............who cares if your not symptomatic..........it`s just to keep from dying in the ICU..........LOOK OUT john john it`s an Iraqi ! .....blub blub blub blub blub blub !!

What is? Shooting yourself up with antifreeze? That's not what the facts say. According to the figures, in many places there are MORE people who took the antifreeze ending up in the hospital than those who didn't.

[Scootertrash]

The funny thing is when I wrote that I had a completely different world view and didn't even know how much worse things were going to get. I was immersed in democratic culture and hadn't even realized how much it had permeated me. I never thought we'd end up where we are now, ever. This is just clown world right now.

I remember. The reason I saved it was because I knew it could work both ways. I never thought we'd end up where we are now either.

All because career politicians saw what (could have) happened when an outsider was elected, if ALL OF the career politicians weren't entrenched in greed, arrogance and self worship

[fabiodriven]

Lying to support your agenda.............if i hadn`t showed up what would you be doing............watching the rain come down cause thats all it does there..............you`re a lying sack of sh!t...........i`m glad nobody works anymore...........Bwahahahahahaha

What am I lying about?

[Scootertrash]

Had to double check who posted that :lol:

:lol::naughty::beer

[fabiodriven]

Uttar Pradesh wiped out COVID-19 for 230 million people with early treatment kits that cost $2.65 per person filled with Tylenol, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Zinc, Ivermectin, and Antibiotics.

It would cost the US government $875 million to produce 330 million of these early treatment kits.

Instead, the US government spent over $6 trillion lining the pockets of big pharma, and still to this day, the NIH, CDC, and FDA refuse to provide early treatment protocols for COVID-19 patients.

@KanekoaTheGreat

[Scootertrash]

who cares if your not symptomatic

Nobody, until you transmit the virus to one of your family members that dies.

You wearin' yer double mask everywhere you go?

[Shep1970]

Personally I haven't worn a mask for i bet its been 4-5 months if not longer. I did however put one on yesterday for an hour to go look at a job (inside) work. The first conversation i had with the homeowners on the phone she said "we are Vaccinated" so yup my mask went on before i entered their home. i dont trust them "vaccinated"folks.
No mandatory mask thing near me, however a few towns away you must wear a mask indoors any public place, so all or most the people just drive an extra 10mins to our area.
Oh i/we take precautions still but.......

Damn rainy day today, way too much rain this past year.......
shep

[Scootertrash]

Get ready glamy!!!! More unvaccinated comin to da border......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj1pFsh4ejo

[Scootertrash]

He's not an outsider he's an actor just like the rest of them who plays a good villain. Everything is going just the way they want it to. You're all suckers.

Watch what happens now that I've spoken against Trump, Pelosi's best buddy. They'll lose their fkn minds over it.

AOC
Kayleigh
Boebert
Biden
Porter
Lieu

No matter what you think they are all on the same team. Read your stupid ass quote one more time.

No matter what you think, none of it really matters. Your stupid ass is in the same fvckin' boat as everyone else.

[Shep1970]

So are you Californians only allowed to flush the toilet once a day per person or what? Huge fine for washing your car or watering the lawn? Just curious.....seen videos of water levels and such- how about them wild fires i havent heard much about the fires?

you can blame covid just to be on the same topic....:rolleyes:

shep

[Scootertrash]

So are you Californians only allowed to flush the toilet once a day per person or what? Huge fine for washing your car or watering the lawn? Just curious.....seen videos of water levels and such- how about them wild fires i havent heard much about the fires?

you can blame covid just to be on the same topic....:rolleyes:

shep

Actually they have to drink any water they need out of the toilet right before they flush it. glamy pretends he's Bear Ineedtodrinkmyp!ss Grylls

[Scootertrash]

The fresh clean water is being held inside 8 billion water bags. The more of those water bags people produce the less clean water there will be on earth. We are bagging up all the clean water inside ourselves.

So you won't be reproducing?

[Scootertrash]

Of course not. It's the most selfish thing anyone could have done in the last 40 years. Unlike you I was able to do math at an early age. I knew it would be like this.

Good news for future generations

[fabiodriven]

So Facebook is shut down now, which I wouldn't have noticed but there's a piece of carpet I was supposed to buy but I can't message the person now. Telegram is really slow too. Is this the prophesized blackout?

[fabiodriven]

I do have to commend you on the over population thing ...........we talked about it before and yeah these fucksticks couldn`t keep their dicks in their pockets ...........and i`m thinking wow 670 million people died from covid19 ..........and everyone is like THATS NO BIG DEAL MAN ............Jesus facken Christ

Now imagine your reaction when you figure out how many they're killing with the jab, assuming someday reality can make it's way through your thick skull and dense head.

[Scootertrash]

FB is working fine. Maybe you got banned like you did for sharing insane Q bs on Twitter

He said Facebook, not Grindr. You're confused.

[Scootertrash]

I do have to commend you on the over population thing ...........we talked about it before and yeah these fucksticks couldn`t keep their dicks in their pockets ...........and i`m thinking wow 670 thousand people died from covid19 ..........and everyone is like THATS NO BIG DEAL MAN ............Jesus facken Christ


It's ALLEGEDLY 701K dead from COVID

701,000 out of 329.5 billion = approx 2.1% of the population. You're concerned about overpopulation but b!itch about reducing it by 2%?

How many kids you got glamy?

[fabiodriven]

It's 701K

701,000 out of 329.5 billion = approx 2.1% of the population. You're concerned about overpopulation but b!itch about reducing it by 2%?

How many kids you got glamy?

Also people with brains understand that number is inflated extraordinarily, probably doubled at least. They're calling shark attack victims, car accident deaths, and people who have died from getting a whiff of Glamy's breath as covid deaths. Glamy's so stupid he shot himself up with antifreeze because he can't figure out he's got more of a chance to die of a lightning strike then he does covid.

[Scootertrash]

So Facebook is shut down now, which I wouldn't have noticed but there's a piece of carpet I was supposed to buy but I can't message the person now. Telegram is really slow too. Is this the prophesized blackout?

Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger, and Oculus VR as well apparently.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/4/22708989/instagram-facebook-outage-messenger-whatsapp-error

FB has been down since about 10 AM or so here.

I wonder if this has anything to do with it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lx5VmAdZSI

[Scootertrash]

Also people with brains understand that number is inflated extraordinarily, probably doubled at least. They're calling shark attack victims, car accident deaths, and people who have died from getting a whiff of Glamy's breath as covid deaths. Glamy's so stupid he shot himself up with antifreeze because he can't figure out he's got more of a chance to die of a lightning strike then he does covid.

Thanks for the reminder! I mistakenly thought everybody knew that by now. I should know better.

I've added a disclaimer to my post you quoted ;)

[Jesus]

............Jesus facken Christ

I can forgive, but the old man has a temper, so watch yourself son.

[Scootertrash]

I`m repulsed by the human race ............still never thought i`d see the day that a virus could kill so many...........and cover the earth so thoroughly..........i still think "they" sprayed it by plane or something .........fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa - q........scooter

It was far simpler than that.

[Scootertrash]

Delta, or something that makes people more likely to get Delta and other viruses, is almost surely in their vaccine. That is where the waves are coming from.

Think about it.

Sounds like a conspiracy. We can't be having any of that in this country.:eek:

[Scootertrash]

Glamy is here because he doesn't trust the vaccine. He might not know it yet but that's why he's here.



it's TIME to Learn to Swim.

That's exactly why he's here, he just can't admit it to himself.

It was time to Learn to Swim a looong time ago.

[fabiodriven]

https://youtu.be/On5RYFbcxWY

[fabiodriven]

I was just talking to William. He's thinking about re-naming the forum "Glamy's a scared little b!tch. So scared he shot himself up with antifreeze to try and protect himself from something that's less likely to kill him than getting struck by lightning."

I think it's a pretty catchy name.

[fabiodriven]

No Johnny John John ..........you`re not better then anyone else .............because your a liar...........yes you`re a liar...........you never had covid .............show the documentation ..............cause you`re a liar..................you promise not to lie ...............WOOOOOHOHOHOHO.............you`re a liar !...........and William told me you`re the best french kisser

Here are some more lies from the folks at Harvard University. They said they were trying to do a study on how scared Glamy is that he jabbed himself with chemicals, but they weren't able to complete it because their instruments couldn't read levels of panic that high. How's it feel with those chemicals coursing through your veins dummy? Aren't you worried about clotting and anyurusms and such? I bet you can feel it clotting.

NEW: Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the U.S. according to a study published by a Harvard Professor.

At the country-level and across U.S. counties, "there appears to be no significant signaling of COVID-19 cases decreasing with higher percentages of population fully vaccinated."

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7#Fig1

@KanekoaTheGreat

[Scootertrash]

I was just talking to William. He's thinking about re-naming the forum "Glamy's a scared little b!tch. So scared he shot himself up with antifreeze to try and protect himself from something that's less likely to kill him than getting struck by lightning."

I think it's a pretty catchy name.

The only thing missing is " Fa la la la laa la la la laaaa"

[fabiodriven]

Oh man our friends are gone lol. Knappy! Get back in here and argue with scooter and I before we start arguing with each other!

[Scootertrash]

Oh man our friends are gone lol. Knappy! Get back in here and argue with scooter and I before we start arguing with each other!

:lol:

I was backtracking and reading some posts and I'm like "WTF?!?! It looks like there's some posts missing"

ETA: I will be having a new COVID experience to talk about over the next few days. More later.

[Billy Golightly]

just zuckerberging people since before zuckerberging them was the term for it is all.

[fabiodriven]

Twitter slammed for fact-checking Seattle mom’s obituary that mentioned COVID vaccine

The tribute, published by The Oregonian, said the 37-year old mother of two died from “COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia” — a rare blood disorder that can occur in some cases after the vaccine.

Wilson had been “vehemently opposed” to getting the vaccine because she was in good health, but she eventually relented after Washington state made it mandatory for teachers and those wanting to volunteer in schools, her obituary said.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/04/twitter-criticized-for-fact-checking-seattle-moms-obituary/

@KanekoaTheGreat

[fabiodriven]

JUST IN: Dr. Francis Collins is stepping down from his role as Director at the National Institutes of Health.

https://beckernews.com/top-figure-behind-united-states-covid-vaccine-push-is-unexpectedly-stepping-down-42311/

@KanekoaTheGreat

[Scootertrash]

just zuckerberging people since before zuckerberging them was the term for it is all.

Speaking of ol' Zuck:


Zuckerberg Loses $6 Billion in Hours as Facebook Plunges

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-04/zuckerberg-loses-7-billion-in-hours-as-facebook-plunges

[fabiodriven]

Since our villains are gone, I put an ad out for a casting call. I got only two replies. One guy named Raymond and the other Sammy.

When I told Raymond the position, he said he'd never like this forum or anyone in it, said he'd detest it all, but he also indicated he'd spend hours and hours every day here.

Sammy informed me his butt's been wiped.

They both said they'd like to start right away though!

[Scootertrash]

Since our villains are gone, I put an ad out for a casting call. I got only two replies. One guy named Raymond and the other Sammy.

When I told Raymond the position, he said he'd never like this forum or anyone in it, said he'd detest it all, but he also indicated he'd spend hours and hours every day here.

Sammy informed me his butt's been wiped.

They both said they'd like to start right away though!

https://c.tenor.com/g_f_2H1X2TMAAAAM/mullet-redneck.gif

[fabiodriven]

https://c.tenor.com/g_f_2H1X2TMAAAAM/mullet-redneck.gif

Well said. Hey I was bored.

[Scootertrash]

Well said. Hey I was bored.

:lol::lol::beer

[fabiodriven]

THE 1918 “SPANISH FLU”: ONLY THE VACCINATED DIED

https://salmartingano.com/2020/05/the-1918-spanish-flu-only-the-vaccinated-died/

[Shep1970]

Really does make you think doesn't it.....A hundred yrs later.
Thats just nutz-

Can i get some bumper stickers/rear window decals and lawn flags?
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kidding, well sorta......(copied and added a little from above link)
shep

[kiser]

I'm glad those clowns are gone even though they will probably resurface under a new name, for the 20th time. I enjoy reading the info and research that you guys post, keep up the good work!

[kiser]

Oh and hats off to the WTF guy Scooter, I love that gif and use it frequently!

[fabiodriven]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211006/476c7a3cb404f3eacbdd7eedcea69fcd.jpg

[sledcrazyinCT]

This guy is public enemy #1....

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[El Camexican]

This guy is public enemy #1....

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Mind boggling that he’s still got a job at this point. He’s got so much to answer for its frustrating to even contemplate.

[fabiodriven]

Mind boggling that he’s still got a job at this point. He’s got so much to answer for its frustrating to even contemplate.

They have him dead to rights. The problem is the rule of law doesn't exist anymore right now in America. I'm astonished every day by the brazen law breaking allowed to happen in this country. It's a true burden on me, on so many people really. I really didn't need any help with being depressed. They're truly casting a blanket of dark days and bad times over this country. Whenever I heard Buydin talking about a "dark winter" during his lack of a campaign, I thought to myself "This has to wake these idiots up. Who on earth would vote for that?" But their skulls are seriously that thick. They brazenly say these things I think on purpose, and I've heard a couple reasons for that. It happens far too often to be coincidence though. If we ever do get this planet sorted out, there will be no shortage of footage to show the sheep all these different situations that were explained to them before, during, and after they happened, but the dolts just couldn't absorb.

[El Camexican]

They have him dead to rights. The problem is the rule of law doesn't exist anymore right now in America. I'm astonished every day by the brazen law breaking allowed to happen in this country. It's a true burden on me, on so many people really. I really didn't need any help with being depressed. They're truly casting a blanket of dark days and bad times over this country. Whenever I hear Biden talking about a "dark winter" during his lack of a campaign, I thought to myself "This has to wake these idiots up. Who on earth would vote for that?" But their skulls are seriously that thick. They brazenly say these things I think on purpose, and I've heard a couple reasons for that. It happens far too often to be coincidence though. If we ever do get this planet sorted out, there will be no shortage of footage to show the sheep all these different situations that were explained to them before, during, and after they happened, but the dolts just couldn't absorb.

Most people don’t want to hear it John. No one wants to feel stupid. It’s why people who buy crappy cars, trucks and aftermarket goods are the first to sing their praises on the Internet. “My $60,0000 Chevy is the BEST vehicle ever!” (Even though the transmission doesn’t work properly). “This is the best pipe made for a 250R” (Even though dyno tests show it shrinks the powerband by 3,000rpm and makes only 1hp more at 9,000rpm). “I’m proud to have voted for Biden!” (Even though he’s misplaced his marbles and isn’t really in charge). “Get vaccinated, I did, it’s your duty as a citizen!” (Even though it doesn’t seem to do much besides mask symptoms for a few months).

Fuk all will ever come of this regardless of evidence. The people at this level are protected by the system. The cleaning lady at the Wuhan lab is more likely to be charged of a crime before Fauci ever will.

It’s sad, it sucks, it’s our pathetic reality brought on by our willingness to hand over control of our lives in exchange for comfort and a sense protection from the very people who are screwing us today.

[Scootertrash]

They have him dead to rights. The problem is the rule of law doesn't exist anymore right now in America. I'm astonished every day by the brazen law breaking allowed to happen in this country. It's a true burden on me, on so many people really. I really didn't need any help with being depressed. They're truly casting a blanket of dark days and bad times over this country. Whenever I heard Buydin talking about a "dark winter" during his lack of a campaign, I thought to myself "This has to wake these idiots up. Who on earth would vote for that?" But their skulls are seriously that thick. They brazenly say these things I think on purpose, and I've heard a couple reasons for that. It happens far too often to be coincidence though. If we ever do get this planet sorted out, there will be no shortage of footage to show the sheep all these different situations that were explained to them before, during, and after they happened, but the dolts just couldn't absorb.

Not COVID related but more "Rules for thee and none for me"

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2021/10/05/anti-gun-mayor-avoids-felony-gun-charge-thanks-to-plea-deal-n50582


Warren, who’s repeatedly demanded more gun control laws during her time in office, palled around with Moms Demand Action’ Shannon Watts, and praised the New York SAFE Act, won’t be subject to the act’s mandatory prison sentence for illegally possessing a firearm thanks to a sweetheart plea deal cut with local prosecutors.



The plea deal, in Monroe County court, resolves two separate state cases against Ms. Warren: one arising from campaign finance violations and another that included gun and child-endangerment charges that Ms. Warren and her estranged husband faced.



Yep, you read that correctly. Despite multiple felony charges, the only consequences for her actions is having to leave office four weeks earlier than she intended.

Calli Marianetti, a spokeswoman for Sandra Doorley, the Monroe County district attorney, said that as part of a plea deal with Ms. Warren, the gun and child endangerment charges would no longer be pursued.

In a statement, Ms. Doorley said that the resolution of the charges facing Ms. Warren — and those facing two fellow defendants, her campaign treasurer and Rochester’s finance director — was “fair and just based on the nature of their crimes.”

“This is an important step in our larger efforts in promoting ethical elections in our state,” said Ms. Doorley, a Republican.

[Scootertrash]

Twitter fact checkers lie. Not that most of us didn't know that.......

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https://twitter.com/APFactCheck/status/1445805808298733573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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[fabiodriven]

Twitter fact checkers lie. Not that most of us didn't know that.......

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https://twitter.com/APFactCheck/status/1445805808298733573?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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I was just listening to Bongino explain this very situation. Everything is a lie these days.

[Scootertrash]

:crazy:

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[Scootertrash]

More insanity:

https://therightscoop.com/nba-star-who-has-natural-covid-immunity-not-allowed-to-eat-in-same-room-with-team-or-go-to-team-functions/


The derangement over the vaccine is apparently on steroids in the NBA, with star Jonathan Isaac telling The Blaze that he’s not allowed to even eat in the same room with the team or go to team functions. But they damn sure want him out on the court during the game because, you know, that makes total sense:

“I’m not allowed to go to team functions, or if the team is eating at a restaurant, I can’t eat in the same room as them. To me it just doesn’t logically follow for us then to get on the court together.”

[Scootertrash]

Why aren’t they bringing in the national guard to help unload cargo ships? ——Manufactured Crisis?:wondering

[Scootertrash]

Is history no longer taught there?

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[El Camexican]

I spoke with a friend yesterday, he and his wife are Polish Holocaust survivors. They moved to Germany a couple years ago and returned to Mexico this year, say it’s totally fracked up in Europe. They won’t go back to the States either. (US Citizens) given the current political climate.

The wife was crying on the phone, she feels the World is heading towards a big mistake. Neither will take the jab and are actively looking at options to move anywhere that will guarantee that they don’t have to in the event that Mexico mandates the vaccine.

Given their life experience so far, their fear level over this is pretty scary.

[Scootertrash]

The saddest part is that half the populace is unable to see or relate all of this to past world events and brush off the glaring similarities. Mostly the Branch Covidians.....

[El Camexican]

The saddest part is that half the populace is unable to see or relate all of this to past world events and brush off the glaring similarities.

It really is insane. I could see it 200 years ago when most people couldn’t read, didn’t travel further than a 1/2 days walk from home etc., heck half the people down here still fall into that category, but in the first world nations we have photos, written and even video testimony available to us to show the atrocities that humans are capable of inflicting on each when given too much power and still we continue to relinquish it to them (willingly!!!) whenever something goes bump in the night.

Bottom line: We’re a stupid species with the inability to properly retain, pass on and comprehend wisdom through generations and we deserve what’s coming. Hopefully someone will take the time to chisel “We Told You So” on our tombstones.

[Scootertrash]

It really is insane. I could see it 200 years ago when most people couldn’t read, didn’t travel further than a 1/2 days walk from home etc., heck half the people down here still fall into that category, but in the first world nations we have photos, written and even video testimony available to us to show the atrocities that humans are capable of inflicting on each when given too much power and still we continue to relinquish it to them (willingly!!!) whenever something goes bump in the night.

Bottom line: We’re a stupid species with the inability to properly retain, pass on and comprehend wisdom through generations and we deserve what’s coming. Hopefully someone will take the time to chisel “We Told You So” on our tombstones.

I should probably clarify my "half of the populace" statement to reflect that a big chunk of that half fully understand what is going on and fully support the conclusion should it come to fruition.

[El Camexican]

Why aren’t they bringing in the national guard to help unload cargo ships? ——Manufactured Crisis?:wondering

The dock unions are more powerful that that

[El Camexican]

I should probably clarify my "half of the populace" statement to reflect that a big chunk of that half fully understand what is going on and fully support the conclusion should it come to fruition.

Ha! Yeah, till it actual happens. The concept of Santa Claus is an easy sell till you wake up one night and someone’s broken into your house through the chimney.

[Scootertrash]

Ha! Yeah, till it actual happens. The concept of Santa Claus is an easy sell till you wake up one night and someone’s broken into your house through the chimney.

And it's a skinny meth head instead of a jolly old fat guy!!!!!

[El Camexican]

And it's a skinny meth head instead of a jolly old fat guy!!!!!

That’s the “duh” moment when you realize defunding the real police to fund the vaccine police wasn’t such a great idea after all.

Fark me, at least you guys can defend yourselves from that trash, in Canada they tell you to step back and let it happen. If you interfere physically you’ll probably be charged and maybe sued.

[El Camexican]

Tip of the iceberg

https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/national/southwest-airlines-cancels-1000-more-flights-across-the-us/285-db1312c2-e656-41b3-8da8-54678755f5d0

[Scootertrash]

A little something I just came across:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445848081405120512


Soooooo, all of this COVID stuff was just a coincidence. Right??

[Scootertrash]

And another:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1445939763912060929

[fabiodriven]

I actually haven't watched this yet. I'm going to try to listen to it now if my internet is strong enough.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vApGm4dLZU8q/

[Scootertrash]

More:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1447263816761368579?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Pfizer to vaccinate entire city in Brazil as part of study.

"Pfizer announced that it would fully vaccinate everyone in the city over the age of 12 so it can carry out a study of the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine."

I thought, and haven't we been assured, that the vaccine is safe and effective?


And then I saw this....:lol:

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[Scootertrash]

I been spendin' too much time readin' today:

https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/status/1447465392469946368?s=20

[fabiodriven]

I been spendin' too much time readin' today:

https://twitter.com/drsimonegold/status/1447465392469946368?s=20

Something needs to wake these fucktards up at some point.

[fabiodriven]

I actually haven't watched this yet. I'm going to try to listen to it now if my internet is strong enough.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vApGm4dLZU8q/

So one part of this video I vehemently disagree with, covid is definitely not the flu as this woman claims. Maybe it has replaced the flu, but it's a very different thing than the flu. Trust me.

[kb0nly]

I have seen a lot of people around my area that got the vaccine still test positive and end up down for the count for a couple weeks sick, so much for the vaccine helping, oh i know everyone will argue that it helped them through it, but the real story is you don't know because had they got it without the vaccine they may have had the same amount of recovery, but we don't know....

I went through Covid back in Feb of 2020, lost my sense of taste and smell, was sick as a dog for weeks, had a cough that just wouldn't go away, went to the doctor, and at this time Covid hadn't hit mainstream just yet, but the doctor ran a test and said i had a virus, it wasn't the flu but it was a virus, he gave me a look that i could tell was "i don't know just take care of yourself and rest" and then said go home, rest, plenty of fluids, etc... And i did and it went away. Then before you know it everyone is panicking over a pandemic. And here we are 20 months later and it has been the only illness i suffered in that time. Meanwhile around me everyone was getting sick. It all started when in Feb of 2020 one of my local stores that i frequent had both owners sick, then i got sick, then my wife got sick, we all got sick... And now everyone is screaming Delta variant...

Let me give the hard numbers for my county, 47% are vaccinated, of that most are elderly because they pushed the vaccine to elderly patients, the rest are in the service industries, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc... But even with that low vaccination rate we are still at zero deaths for my county since this whole thing started nearly two years ago... Of those getting vaccinated, most of them are now getting sick and testing positive. Why???? It's quite simple, they got vaccinated, they were scared and taking every precaution, masks, distancing, etc... And then they got the shot and the media tells them they will be fine now so they get a little more lax with their precautions and now they are getting sick. But they are all surviving as well.

I see all the time people comparing it to the flu... Yes its different, however, its similarities in how the public perceives it is why it keeps getting compared to it. Like the flu the TV and Radio tell us all day every day get your shot, like the flu, it will be less severe if you get the shot, like the flu, its not a guaranteed vaccination but it should help, like the flu shot... Maybe its my age but whenever they are talking about the Covid vaccination it sounds like the Flu shot for the last 20 years...

Covid is here to stay... Anyone that thinks otherwise should go get their head examined. It's a virus, very few antiviral's exist, if they could cure Covid they could cure the flu and it wouldn't be a thing anymore. I don't know about you but i'm not wearing a mask and hiding in fear for the rest of my life because Covid exists. Currently in my town there is two places you need a mask... The Pharmacy, and the Hospital, and with cold and flu season upon us its just as much for that then Covid at this point. Hand sanitizer, masks, spraying every surface with disinfectants and trying to make everything sterile environments like a hospital is how you raise resistant germs and get super bugs. Most of the really scary super bugs we have came out of hospitals, read the history on them, its been proven that the bacteria builds up resistance to what we use to try and control them, and i fear that our Covid panic is just going to breed the next big germ to be worst then Covid ever was.

How is it where you live? Would be interesting to hear. We keep hearing the state health board and other organizations here saying that hospitals are overwhelmed and beds are becoming a problem, yet i know a half dozen people that WORK in hospitals, nurses, maintenance people, EMT's, etc... And i keep asking how its going and they keep telling me the Covid ward their hospital setup for the panic is empty!! One local hospital had one patient in it a few weeks ago, thought it was Covid, ended up being Pneumonia and tested negative for Covid, but since the rooms were available they kept him in it anyway. Where are all these patients? In larger cities? We just aren't seeing it here, but the media every night keeps telling everyone the hospitals are packed and to use precautions and get the shot so you don't die because there is no hospital bed available.. WHAT A CROCK!!!

[Scootertrash]

kb:

What county are you in? SW Minnesota IIRC?

Here is the stats for my county, 97,238 residents as of 2019

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[Billy Golightly]

I have seen a lot of people around my area that got the vaccine still test positive and end up down for the count for a couple weeks sick, so much for the vaccine helping, oh i know everyone will argue that it helped them through it, but the real story is you don't know because had they got it without the vaccine they may have had the same amount of recovery, but we don't know....

I went through Covid back in Feb of 2020, lost my sense of taste and smell, was sick as a dog for weeks, had a cough that just wouldn't go away, went to the doctor, and at this time Covid hadn't hit mainstream just yet, but the doctor ran a test and said i had a virus, it wasn't the flu but it was a virus, he gave me a look that i could tell was "i don't know just take care of yourself and rest" and then said go home, rest, plenty of fluids, etc... And i did and it went away. Then before you know it everyone is panicking over a pandemic. And here we are 20 months later and it has been the only illness i suffered in that time. Meanwhile around me everyone was getting sick. It all started when in Feb of 2020 one of my local stores that i frequent had both owners sick, then i got sick, then my wife got sick, we all got sick... And now everyone is screaming Delta variant...

Let me give the hard numbers for my county, 47% are vaccinated, of that most are elderly because they pushed the vaccine to elderly patients, the rest are in the service industries, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc... But even with that low vaccination rate we are still at zero deaths for my county since this whole thing started nearly two years ago... Of those getting vaccinated, most of them are now getting sick and testing positive. Why???? It's quite simple, they got vaccinated, they were scared and taking every precaution, masks, distancing, etc... And then they got the shot and the media tells them they will be fine now so they get a little more lax with their precautions and now they are getting sick. But they are all surviving as well.

I see all the time people comparing it to the flu... Yes its different, however, its similarities in how the public perceives it is why it keeps getting compared to it. Like the flu the TV and Radio tell us all day every day get your shot, like the flu, it will be less severe if you get the shot, like the flu, its not a guaranteed vaccination but it should help, like the flu shot... Maybe its my age but whenever they are talking about the Covid vaccination it sounds like the Flu shot for the last 20 years...

Covid is here to stay... Anyone that thinks otherwise should go get their head examined. It's a virus, very few antiviral's exist, if they could cure Covid they could cure the flu and it wouldn't be a thing anymore. I don't know about you but i'm not wearing a mask and hiding in fear for the rest of my life because Covid exists. Currently in my town there is two places you need a mask... The Pharmacy, and the Hospital, and with cold and flu season upon us its just as much for that then Covid at this point. Hand sanitizer, masks, spraying every surface with disinfectants and trying to make everything sterile environments like a hospital is how you raise resistant germs and get super bugs. Most of the really scary super bugs we have came out of hospitals, read the history on them, its been proven that the bacteria builds up resistance to what we use to try and control them, and i fear that our Covid panic is just going to breed the next big germ to be worst then Covid ever was.

How is it where you live? Would be interesting to hear. We keep hearing the state health board and other organizations here saying that hospitals are overwhelmed and beds are becoming a problem, yet i know a half dozen people that WORK in hospitals, nurses, maintenance people, EMT's, etc... And i keep asking how its going and they keep telling me the Covid ward their hospital setup for the panic is empty!! One local hospital had one patient in it a few weeks ago, thought it was Covid, ended up being Pneumonia and tested negative for Covid, but since the rooms were available they kept him in it anyway. Where are all these patients? In larger cities? We just aren't seeing it here, but the media every night keeps telling everyone the hospitals are packed and to use precautions and get the shot so you don't die because there is no hospital bed available.. WHAT A CROCK!!!


http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf this is the page that has the weekly stat reports from FL, by county. Does show a huge dip down from the peak of Delta and we're about back down to the lowest point of the spring time again.

[fabiodriven]

KB asked how it is in our areas. I don't know the numbers here, but I do know a lot of people around here have gotten it recently.

As far as precautions, next to none here. I went through this whole thing maskless unless forced, and even then most times I'd wear a full face military gas mask or a Guy Fawkes mask. Very few times did I ever mask up with a regular face mask. During this I've traveled through and spent time in many states, and I never automatically masked in any state no matter how strict the policies were in that area. I refuse to pretend I'm the weirdo when truly it's the whole rest of the world whose mind has malfunctioned.

Where I live now near Coshocton Ohio, they're fairly lenient on masks. Right now you don't need a mask anywhere that I've been. Pretty much everyone is maskless now, except for a few stragglers. I sometimes imagine what it must be like in Massachusetts now where I came from. I'm willing to bet those clowns are still all masked all the time, it's mass hysteria. I couldn't do it. There's a reason I got out of there when I did, because I would be big trouble up there right now. I'm allergic to sheep and I'm a pretty upfront and blunt person. I might end up fighting an entire grocery store or something, who knows.

[Shep1970]

Oh yes john (fabio) there's still many walking down the street by themselves/ driving a car by themselves wearing a mask. Some stores require a mask, but many choose to shop at the ones that don't require one. If i had to guess the maskless stores are making a killing $ wise compared to the masked ones.
There's tons of empty buildings alot of things went out of business, like there's a huge office park less than 5 miles from here if u drive through mon-friday its dead/empty except for a couple smaller companies still hanging on.
Hotels nearby are mostly empty and a few closed. Traffic is back though bigtime/ where ever there going.
The real-estate worth has jumped bigtime $ wise. thats a good thing.....
We went to Hyannis (cape cod) a couple of wks ago on a saturday the main strip was like a ghost town (candy store was open though) and a couple other stores but ya it was bad.
Planned on stopping by steve's but ran outa time on the way home.
Gas is staying about $3.15 a gallon "so far"
Yup mass still sucks though........
smokes are still $11.50 ish - only $ 7 ish in NH though but slowly rising. Gotta grab me a 5lb bag of tobacco and papers and go that route soon!

shep

oh the wife just sent me your- think it was a facebook post about reproduction- thought that was great!
ok i'm outa here-

[El Camexican]

This is us below (supposedly). Masks are law in all business, but it’s such a joke. We went to a beach resort last week and you need to be masked when out of your room, but you can take them off in the pool, and when your eating or drinking and some people weren’t wearing them in the elevators, kids on the plane were removing them and of course there are always the people that wear them on their chins, so what’s the point? Even in the airport they make you take them off to see your face, and social distancing in an airport? LOL!!! Good luck!!! A condom in your pocket will do as much good as a mask on your chin.

My daughter’s school announced mandatory vaccines for next semester and the US announced that they will be opening up the border to nonessential travel again, but all foreign travelers are going to have to be fully vaccinated.

The flaps on the box of freedoms are being sealed with packing tape as we post here. I give it two years tops before even the most stanch of us are forced into the jab chute like rowdy livestock.

I’d like to make a few more comments about how I feel about that, I don’t think the Internet is a good place to state such thoughts.

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[ATC King]

The Walmarts here are selling bricks of twenty 2 ammunition again. Whatever that means. The hollow point stuff too, not just the target type.

[kb0nly]

kb:

What county are you in? SW Minnesota IIRC?

Here is the stats for my county, 97,238 residents as of 2019

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Yes, SW MN, Lincoln County. If you look at the google stats it says we have five deaths currently, and the MN dept of health says five deaths as well, but dig deeper in to the data and they were all confined cases in elderly patients already in long term care or assisted living. Now while i am not dismissing these peoples deaths, if your over 80-90 years old, already in bad enough health you have to be in a care facility, and you get sick from the Flu, Pneumonia, Covid, it doesn't matter. I'm not trying to be cold about this, and my heart goes out to those who just lost a loved one. But i will tell you this, and this is FACT... My 98 year old grandmother just passed away almost two weeks ago, they tried to tag her under the Covid-19 related deaths stats, another member of the family forced the medical examiner to test and specify on the death certificate the cause of death, why? Because they didn't believe she had Covid and the family was at a bit of unrest with not being able to visit etc... In the end the test was negative, it was complications from Pneumonia caused by common cold.. She got sick, she lost, it sucks but don't classify her as one of the Covid cases.

Anyway, regardless of my personal family experience with it, it truly makes me wonder, are these other 5 deaths purely Covid related?? But my point about zero deaths was not that there was zero deaths reportedly due to Covid, but that health officials for the county are saying ZERO, yet the state is saying 5... How can that be?? I just looked at a county health release in the local newspaper saying we are doing great, no surge after school starting back up, we are IN SESSION NO MASKS REQUIRED, some still wear them but very very few, and generally its elderly, like grandma or grandpa picking up the kids etc. My wife works for the school, she doesn't wear a mask, refuses to be vaccinated because she hates doctors and drugs as is and generally gets a cold and beats it faster then the rest of us, calling us MAN SICK when we stay in bed for a day because we feel like we got run over by a truck, and she's been fine through all this. Again she got sick when i did back in 2020, i dealt with it for a couple weeks, she had like a week of feeling sick and bounced right back, her immune system kills colds like a military trained sniper... BAMMM.. GONE SUCKER.

Our infection rate currently says 745, our 7 day average is four cases, which is funny because i know of three that tested positive in the last week, they had to quarantine at home for 10 days or until they test negative to return to work, and are doing just fine. I don't mean to sound overly confident, but from what we are seeing here we have had worst results from the darn Flu in past years. I want to say it was 2016 or 2015 we had a pandemic of flu here, i avoided going anywhere as much as i could, still ended up getting it, not that i was afraid of it i was too damn busy to be sick for a while. We lost double digits in our county to the Flu. So far in nearly two years of Covid we lost 5 according to the state.

[Arky-X]

Been away from this thread for a while.....lots to catch up on....

Kyrie Irving (NBA) plays for the Brooklyn Nets and he is catching flack for not getting vaccinated. Won't be able to play home games because New York is requiring vaccinations just about anywhere outside your doorstep.
He was praised just last year for helping others during BLM and now they are tearing him apart.

Numbers here? Falling. Deaths lag cases by 19 days and both are on the downward slope. Didn't get as high as the Dec-Jan numbers.
Most here are going on about their business as far as crowded football stadiums, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. Wife and I are still working from home but will be going back in a few months.....unless there is another Delta, Delta, Delta. I would say Ark just rode the wave.

I've mentioned before, I got the J&J single shot. Reading an article on boosters and it just confirms my reluctance to halt the madness for a while. I can hear it now, "Great! You got the vaccine! You're one of us!".............."WHY HAVEN'T YOU GOTTEN YOUR BOOSTER!!!"
Article says US health advisers (whoever the hell they are?) endorsed a J&J booster. They cite, "citing growing worry that Americans who got the single-dose shot aren’t as protected as those given two-dose brands."
What the heck? Where did the "science" go? So health experts are advising based on worry? The FDA advisory panel said get the booster but not sure on waiting 2 months or 6 months and that it isn't as effective as Pfizer and Moderna.
Another WTH?! The one you took is kind of ok but the others are better........your 2007 Chevy gets the job done but a new one would be soooo much more effective!

“I think this frankly was always a two-dose vaccine,” said FDA adviser Dr. Paul Offit of Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.
"This is really -- with the second dose -- bringing it I think on par with those other vaccines in terms of effectiveness,” said Dr. Archana Chatterjee of Rosalind Franklin University.

So roll up your sleeve and take another one because we "worry" and "we think" it's the right thing to do. More like poor J&J only made half of the money of the others so here's another.
I'm gonna stroke out over this crap.....or maybe that is just the blood clot from the vaccine?
But fear not, because the FDA makes approvals when the benefits outweigh the risks. Very short-sighted benefits we are looking at here. Wonder if they rewound the clock and would say the same about the opioids they approved?

Cheers!

[ATC King]

Wife and I are still working from home but will be going back in a few months.....unless there is another Delta, Delta, Delta.


Checkmate:

"New COVID variant detected in Louisiana; it's not an imminent threat, health officials say"...For now
https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_f10809aa-2c51-11ec-bb8d-cf32110c6bd3.html

[fabiodriven]

Whistleblower: FDA and CDC Ignore Damning Report that over 90% of a Hospital’s Admissions were Vaccinated for Covid-19 and No One Was Reporting This to VAERS

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore-3e2

[kiser]

Numbers around this area are slowly going down from what local radio is saying. They are pushing the jab at Coshocton city schools and the teachers are threatening to go on strike if they mandate it. I'm betting the school won't if the teachers stick to their guns. The school would really shoot themselves in the foot if they push it, they can't get people to work as it is. Other local schools are saying they will not go back to remote learning because it didn't work and I agree with that.

[Billy Golightly]

It's still a prominent issue here locally (as far as people getting very sick and being in the hospital). Its purported to be because we have one of the lowest overall vaccine rates in the state of FL (#2 or 3 lowest...). But who knows.

I was talking with some friends having a few beers the first time in probably over a year together (more everyones work schedules than not wanting to be together in public...) and we were talking about the shots and I told them that I'm just taking a handful of vitamins every morning, being conscious of hanging around sick people (not much different than staying away from people with season cold or flu), and otherwise trying to live my life.

It's like putting a seat belt on before you drive off. It's not a guarantee, but it's been around long enough its pretty proven to help with little room for side-affects, and otherwise I'm hoping for the best. I'm an uneducated republican voter, so I'm dumb and over simplyfying of course, but that's pretty much where I'm at on the whole vaccine thing. The way the trials and stuff were rushed on it, no long term ability to study or understand long term affects, no thanks, not for me.

I don't know where I fall on the line of "conventional" vaccines even - as even before covid there were a lot of people and some unique data that showed links to common vaccines possibly contributing to down syndrome and other long term health issues in children and people. I'm not saying I'm 100% against vaccines completely, as I'm sure there is some good trade off, but even before covid, to me there were questions about side affects and things that could go awry from them. Muchless something totally completely rushed to market, like this.

The financial impact from having a guaranteed payout from every person on the planet by these drug companies is staggering. It's almost like a functioning government tax collection system if you think about it. Everyone's got to pay taxes...everyone's got to get the shot, everyone's got to pay for the shot in one form or another. It does not seem like that much of conspiracy stretch for the vaccine to knowingly compromise or otherwise change people's immune systems where subsequent shots or treatments will be needed, perhaps in perpetuity (ie cancer treatments...).

I'd need to do some research again (You should, too) but I am pretty sure that when the federal government broke up John Rockefellar's standard oil due to monopoly on oil, oil refining, and oil/fuel/gas transportation, that some of the subsidiaries went into pharma. What a great transition from a business standpoint to go from monopolizing a commodity vital to the world economy (but not quite every human being...) and go into pharma, whereas literally every person on the planet needs your product, and can perhaps be lifetime customers of your product. What more perfect of a business plan or concept could there possibly be? What else would have a larger, more important market share, than the "lives" of every living person on the planet? If someone has an ideas on a better market base, please feel free to share. There are some theories that Pharma groups associated with Rockefeller's money may have even got the spanish flu started. Who knows? https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/did-a-vaccine-experiment-on-u-s-soldiers-cause-the-spanish-flu/


Trust the science they say, on the vaccines. Well, it seems pretty well established by now that "the science" gave us the covid flu to begin with between its genetic engineering and at the very least accidental release and potentially intentional release.

[El Camexican]

Went to see a Dr. today that my wife knows through the family. He’s supposedly the one of the most respected hematologists in the country. We scheduled an appointment to discuss all the reports on the Internet about thrombosis due to the vaccines as the mandates are coming up for travel and schools here.

He seemed a little miffed when we said we weren’t vaccinated, but went on to say that off all the patients him and his colleagues have treated since the vaccines came out, none of them have reported a side effect, but he did say the odds they are are aware of is that at least one in every 40,000 will have a “incident”.

He then went on to say that of the patients in the hospitals he’s working at, currently 90% admitted with Covid are unvaccinated and 10% are vaccinated. He said the death rate is about the same.

He had Covid and he said it was tough on him, but that his older brother is just recovering now and was really bad.

We asked about treatment, like Ivermectin and others and he kind of rolled his eyes and said he hasn’t seen anything that makes him believe there a cure out there, but mentioned that there’s a pill coming out very soon to help with the symptoms (probably the Merck one?).

At one point he said he anyone over 60 is in real danger from what he’s seen and that people younger do a lot better if their healthy. He ended the consult by saying “Look around this hospital, every doctor here got vaccinated voluntarily, do you think we’re all stupid?”

I’m not picking a side here, just passing on what was said to my face by a guy that works with Covid patients.

[fabiodriven]

Fauci critics say NIH letter debunks 'gain of function' denial

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/fauci-critics-say-nih-letter-debunks-gain-of-function-denial

[El Camexican]

Fauci critics say NIH letter debunks 'gain of function' denial

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/fauci-critics-say-nih-letter-debunks-gain-of-function-denial

This should be the biggest story of the year, but its two or three headlines down from “Alex Baldwin seen crying after shooting two people with a prop gun” on some networks and not even mentioned on others

[ironchop]

Went to see a Dr. today.........

At one point he said he anyone over 60 is in real danger from what he’s seen and that people younger do a lot better if their healthy. He ended the consult by saying “Look around this hospital, every doctor here got vaccinated voluntarily, do you think we’re all stupid?”
......

Yes........ If not stupid, then at least WAY too gullible and trusting of pharmaceutical companies who have proven in the past that they will release deadly drugs with questionable efficacy, onto a Capitalist marketplace without fully or properly testing them....., especially since the three companies involved have been fined by the FDA numerous times (more than any other companies) for f*ckery and people dying.

It's the same argument I have with people who believe the mainstream media........ The problem is that people automatically ASSUME that these media entities have your best interests at heart, respect truth and honesty, or even that they don't have an agenda at all. We assume that the person reading the teleprompter in the evening news, did actual journalism or produced their report from someone who actually did actual journalism. We assume that your evening news wasn't written by the Fed Propaganda Dept and was compiled by some starry-eyed journalism student who wants the public to know the absolute truth!

We apply these 'selfless people' assumptions to many things in American society and between Trump and Covid, the blinders should be removed completely at this point....

1) everyone automatically trusts the healthcare system in America. We assume that healthcare only attracts people "who want to help others" or people who "aren't in this for the money, just want to save lives and help people recover"..... Meanwhile the healthcare system is rife with the bad people as much as it is the good people. We assume doctors don't make mistakes until they do. We assume anyone with a PhD is correct in their opinions

2) we assume that American Education only attracts selfless people who want to make an impact in children's lives, not sexual predators, not Marxist ideologues trying to make your kids into antifa recruits, not useless slobs or pathetic desk weights. We KNOW better but we assume benefit of the doubt

Our problem as a group, is the inherent assumption of trust that we've given. Assuming that specific career paths are inherently chosen by well-meaning people who have honor, service, and integrity as their personal agendas, is really a fools bet.

The general public will crucify police as a whole for the actions of a few, but will ignore the problem when it concerns your local hospitals or clinics, or if the problem is in your local school system. We do it with EVERYTHING in the public sphere. World leaders, vaccine "experts", this "expert" , or that "expert"....... We do it with "fact checkers" ..... We STUPIDLY automatically assume that a person drawn to checking the facts would not be in it for money, but for the love and integrity of FACTS... More assumptions.

We do it with world leaders...."They wouldn't have risen to that position without being a real and effective leader"

You know what else always rises to the top?

A: Pond Scum

Does this mean that pond scum is the most important part of the lake?

We assume that a certificate of completion from any university, is a measure of a person's intelligence or general usefulness. Matter of fact, the news is constantly telling the middle class how it's the "uneducated, rural" people who are always crapping upstream in the river..... as if a university magically transforms you from idiot to genius merely by proving in a test that you indeed partially listened to the person yacking at the podium for one hour three times a week for one semester. Wow, that's like magic! Those Profs are like living modern wizards!

We assume far too many things in life and it burns us in most instances.

Suspicion is healthy. So is questioning assumed authority.

I'm just rambling on guys and girls..... I'm probably "out in left field" and totally wrong. Just my opinion.

Oh, here you go........ called it ...... CDC warning you that they are going to keep moving the "fully vaccinated" goalpost..... You're welcome, Rick

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cdc-director-us-may-update-definition-full-vaccination-covid-19-2021-10-22/

Also, if you like to assume that the FDA doesn't make mistakes or that they always apply due-diligence (even in time of global covid panic lmao)...... Here's a partial list...

https://prescriptiondrugs.procon.org/fda-approved-prescription-drugs-later-pulled-from-the-market/

[fabiodriven]

Went to see a Dr. today that my wife knows through the family. He’s supposedly the one of the most respected hematologists in the country. We scheduled an appointment to discuss all the reports on the Internet about thrombosis due to the vaccines as the mandates are coming up for travel and schools here.

He seemed a little miffed when we said we weren’t vaccinated, but went on to say that off all the patients him and his colleagues have treated since the vaccines came out, none of them have reported a side effect, but he did say the odds they are are aware of is that at least one in every 40,000 will have a “incident”.

He then went on to say that of the patients in the hospitals he’s working at, currently 90% admitted with Covid are unvaccinated and 10% are vaccinated. He said the death rate is about the same.

He had Covid and he said it was tough on him, but that his older brother is just recovering now and was really bad.

We asked about treatment, like Ivermectin and others and he kind of rolled his eyes and said he hasn’t seen anything that makes him believe there a cure out there, but mentioned that there’s a pill coming out very soon to help with the symptoms (probably the Merck one?).

At one point he said he anyone over 60 is in real danger from what he’s seen and that people younger do a lot better if their healthy. He ended the consult by saying “Look around this hospital, every doctor here got vaccinated voluntarily, do you think we’re all stupid?”

I’m not picking a side here, just passing on what was said to my face by a guy that works with Covid patients.

So the propaganda is getting to you, you're getting nervous, and you're searching for the answer you want to hear, which is that the jab is safe.

Get it if you want dude, it's your decision. Obviously I'm not a doctor, but I know what I've experienced and I know the studies and statistics I've shared here. Stats don't lie.

For myself, if immunity were my goal, I'd get ivermectin or whatever other treatments are offered (seems like there have been a few popping up lately), keep them on hand, and wait to get sick. Then I'd sit back and ride it out. Poof! You're immune.

Whether it's true or not I have no idea, but I imagine your risk of dying from covid will increase drastically once you involve yourself in the Healthcare approach. They jab you with poison first (speaks for itself), then you're going to end up with covid. You could have accomplished that without the jab. Then you go to the doctor, then they strip away your rights and freedoms, and nobody can come visit you, then complications, then the ventilator, then you're dead.

You're going to get covid with or without the jab, you understand that right? I'm sure you do, so there has to be another reason you're thinking about it now. Their tactics are getting to you maybe? They're flushing you out!

Seems pretty obvious to me, but knock yourself out lol!

[ironchop]

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Also, if you like to assume that the FDA doesn't make mistakes or that they always apply due-diligence (even in time of global covid panic lmao)...... Here's a partial list...

https://prescriptiondrugs.procon.org/fda-approved-prescription-drugs-later-pulled-from-the-market/

My point posting that partial, and not updated list of drugs was this.....

For each one of those recalled dangerous drugs, there were tens of thousands of doctors with a certificate of completion from a university, who hold "expert opinions" inside of their skulls (after being magically transformed into an intelligent crysallis from an idiotic caterpillar by a magical college professor) who PRESCRIBED THESE DRUGS to their unsuspecting patients using their "educated opinions"

Tens of thousands of doctors who ASSUMED that the drugmaker wasn't a murderous scoundrel and that even if they were, this professional person ASSUMED that the FDA was doing their job. What did these assumptions get these medical professionals? Dead patients.

Guess how the FDA finally figures out that something is dangerous? People have to die first. Lots of them. For a long time.

So for every deadly drug, there was an "expert" who prescribed that drug because "other experts" said it was safe and effective.

What about all the deaths that weren't counted against these drugs? Does anyone really think that everyone who got killed by a pharmaceutical was reported and represented in these reports?

I'll bet the ratio is more like 1:1 or 2:1 (unreported: reported)

Here's another tidbit for the people who trust mainstream media. Apparently CNN was questioning the FDA record when Trump was purportedly (lol) trying to deregulate the drug industry.

Lefties had little faith in the process until covid and fauci and suddenly the FDA is a literal living hero and infallible and unbiased

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/health/fda-approval-drug-events-study/index.html

For every dead patient who died as a result of medical or drug malpractice, there was an "expert" who suggested the product or service to the dead patient to begin with.

I'm not saying don't trust anyone in the medical field. I'm saying stop trusting everyone in the medical field.....Many of them are good people. Many of them are full of bullshit and only out to increase billables and kickback perks, or for career advancement. Many of them just parrot what the drug package insert says. NONE of them did the research and ALL of them assumed trust in an institution that has demonstrated that it's not trustworthy

This is why "hundreds of doctors agree that this vaccine is safe and effective" really means nothing to me. To me, this means that the jury is still out. It's like hearing the Devil endorse adultery....."of course he would say that"

[El Camexican]

So the propaganda is getting to you, you're getting nervous, and you're searching for the answer you want to hear, which is that the jab is safe.

Get it if you want dude, it's your decision. Obviously I'm not a doctor, but I know what I've experienced and I know the studies and statistics I've shared here. Stats don't lie.

For myself, if immunity were my goal, I'd get ivermectin or whatever other treatments are offered (seems like there have been a few popping up lately), keep them on hand, and wait to get sick. Then I'd sit back and ride it out. Poof! You're immune.

Whether it's true or not I have no idea, but I imagine your risk of dying from covid will increase drastically once you involve yourself in the Healthcare approach. They jab you with poison first (speaks for itself), then you're going to end up with covid. You could have accomplished that without the jab. Then you go to the doctor, then they strip away your rights and freedoms, and nobody can come visit you, then complications, then the ventilator, then you're dead.

You're going to get covid with or without the jab, you understand that right? I'm sure you do, so there has to be another reason you're thinking about it now. Their tactics are getting to you maybe? They're flushing you out!

Seems pretty obvious to me, but knock yourself out lol!

I don’t see a question mark at the end of your first sentence, and knowing how methodical your are with your editing I doubt that’s an oversight.

Jumping to your last paragraph, the reason for the consultation is because a family member is facing a choice of either getting a jab, or walking away from 2 years of a double major university education of which the investment of both time and money is substantial. I thought it might be prudent to seek advice outside of the Fracas section of a three Wheeler website where the majority of the 400 plus posts have been made by half a dozen people with (to the best of my knowledge) don’t work in the medical field.

Now let me ask you something. You stated that you’ve had Covid twice, but didn’t know it was Covid the first time. Did you get tested both times, or just the second time?

[fabiodriven]

I don’t see a question mark at the end of your first sentence, and knowing how methodical your are with your editing I doubt that’s an oversight.

Jumping to your last paragraph, the reason for the consultation is because a family member is facing a choice of either getting a jab, or walking away from 2 years of a double major university education of which the investment of both time and money is substantial. I thought it might be prudent to seek advice outside of the Fracas section of a three Wheeler website where the majority of the 400 plus posts have been made by half a dozen people with (to the best of my knowledge) don’t work in the medical field.

Now let me ask you something. You stated that you’ve had Covid twice, but didn’t know it was Covid the first time. Did you get tested both times, or just the second time?

So I was right. This isn't about someone's health, this is about something else. They're trying to force someone into medical treatment by holding something else over their heads. That should scare you even more about the jab, but as I said, to each their own.

I was tested the first time but not the second time. I wish I hadn't been tested the first time, I don't even trust the tests. I was so so sick though and for such a long time, when I finally broke down and went to the hospital it was far past the point other people would have gone.

[El Camexican]

The first time I had it I didn't think it was covid. I thought I was sick from drinking off my well. It wasn't until this most recent time I had it that I figured out what it was I had the first time.

Sorry to ask again about the testing, I know there’s a lot of controversy about them, but if you got tested the first time, why didn’t you know what it was until the second time you had it?

[fabiodriven]

Sorry to ask again about the testing, I know there’s a lot of controversy about them, but if you got tested the first time, why didn’t you know what it was until the second time you had it?

Oh that's no problem. I didn't believe their results either way because I knew whether or not I had it they were going to tell me I was positive. The first time I was sick I still wasn't sure covid existed, and with my health issues it took me a while just to be sure this wasn't a Lyme flare up. That's what's unfortunate about our current situation, you cannot trust anyone or anything anymore. Our whole world is lies.

[ironchop]

Can anyone actually post up Potato Joe's actual vaccine mandate?

I keep hearing "oh, he mandated it for companies 100 employees or more" but I can't find any of the actual wording or physical records of this "executive order"

All they have done is TOLD US there was a mandate, but had anyone actually read this mandate?

Please post it here if you can find it. I'm having trouble finding it and I guess I'm not looking in the right place

[knappyfeet]

Can anyone actually post up Potato Joe's actual vaccine mandate?


I'd like to know as well

I understood by the airline and maybe cdc??...that I needed to either show proof of vaccination or proof of a negative covid test prior to flying. I voluntarily became vaccinated long ago but my wife who didn't want it at all got vaccinated because of this "mandate ". Nobody at the airport or the airlines check for either of these.....which infuriated my wife.....at any of the 4 airports we went to… American Airlines or Spirit.

They throw the word mandate around and although some are mandating it are they really mandating it? I guess when it comes to one's livelihood it's easy to understand how one might be willing to conform

[Billy Golightly]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-requiring-coronavirus-disease-2019-vaccination-for-federal-employees/

and also;

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-ensuring-adequate-covid-safety-protocols-for-federal-contractors/


(they are actually two different EO's despite the similarity in the links and days)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Vaccination-Requirements-Report.pdf

Is something else you may want to read.




In a nut shell, its a manadate for federal employees, and also federal contractors getting federal money for work their performing. Of which, many, many, many "fortune" sized companies are on the federal teet in some form, so they fall under that mandate, too.

[Billy Golightly]

I've also heard some companies are implementing the mandate just on their own free will and volition onto their employees. And/or are claiming they're applying to be a federal contractor or that they will be applying for a federal contractor status "in the near future"

[ATC King]

In a nut shell, its a manadate for federal employees...


Consider, that many federal agencies are already severely understaffed, the hiring process of new hires is extremely slow, the quality of new applicants is lacking, and many of the long time employees aren't much more than ladder climbers and seat warmers with a superiority complex.

The federal employee mandates are guaranteed to make all of that worse. So what are the mandates really trying to accomplish?

At this point, I'm not so certain I will be able to return to federal service next year. That's several years down the drain.

[El Camexican]

Wife contacted a lawyer yesterday regarding the university vaccine mandate down here….


…..

…..

He says it’s BULLSH*T!!!!

Said that unless the government makes the vaccines law that the education institutions can’t discriminate or deny education to anyone who’s already enrolled even though they’re privately owned. We’ve already received multiple emails stating the students have to be vaccinated, but now we’re going to ask for them to provide the authority that their acting under and submit it all to the lawyers.

Let the fun (and legal fees:( )begin!!!

[Billy Golightly]

Consider, that many federal agencies are already severely understaffed, the hiring process of new hires is extremely slow, the quality of new applicants is lacking, and many of the long time employees aren't much more than ladder climbers and seat warmers with a superiority complex.

The federal employee mandates are guaranteed to make all of that worse. So what are the mandates really trying to accomplish?

At this point, I'm not so certain I will be able to return to federal service next year. That's several years down the drain.


It's absolutely setting up a "Strike" type situation where everyone that is of any actual value in their job place is going to throw their hands up and quit, and the companies will be left to hire in new people that know nothing and are most likely unwilling to learn anything, and then the .gov will "step in" to "help" the situation, and you've got directive 10-289 in real life and the rest of Atlas Shrugged comes to pass.

The similarities are absolutely uncanny...

[Dave Little]

Welcome to the Flu World Order

[ironchop]

Check this out, and then I have a question

https://www.timesofisrael.com/covid-pieces-that-trigger-strokes-and-heart-attacks-identified-by-israeli-team/

So Israeli media reporting that scientists there have identified the protein inside of "covid" that causes the heart attacks, strokes, and vascular breakdown that's being observed?

So they made a gene therapy drug that they say tells human cells how to produce a covid virus inside the body so that the body immune systems will learn how to kill it. They did all this before knowing about the stroke and heat attack protein, which means they are injecting instructions inside of humans that teaches your ribosomes how to produce deadly spike proteins(that they admit are present in covid virus, or at least they think there is) that will wreck your circulatory system??

That's rather reactionary, besides being wholly and scientifically irresponsible.

I love science but I'm losing faith in the people who are supposed to be practicing it

And somehow a vaccine that teaches your immune system how to replicate a virus that gives you heart attacks and strokes, is reportedly safe and effective?..... Not attenuated virus parts like in regular vaccines, but instructions on how to replicate what had ALSO been openly admitted and proven to have been escaped from a lab in another country that was developing bioweapons under the guise of science, while illegally using taxpayer money to fund the project in what is considered an adversarial country.

"We have to synthesize much deadlier viruses in foreign labs without federal oversight in order to understand how viruses kill people"(paraphrasing)

That's the STUPIDEST explanation for a bioweapon development that I've ever heard in my life and if you believe that crap, you should absolutely take the jab. Honestly one does not need to be a conspiracy nutjobs to see the holes in the entire narrative. Look around enough even in the masturbatory mainstream media and you'll pickup on the clues

LMAO....... We live in clown world, except these clowns are going to get everyone killed

Someone please make sense of this for me

[Billy Golightly]

Boy. That sounds an awful lot like how in the first few pages I was saying that it was odd to me that there was such a push for the vaccine - that there must be another hidden component or "feature" of covid that we plebeians are not yet privy to...

It's also been odd to me that the Chicoms are still treating covid literally like the plague (shut down entire operating ports and theme parks over 1 or 2 infections...?. IE see this article; https://news.yahoo.com/over-33-000-guests-stuck-155312498.html



That pretty much confirms one of my sneaking suspicions - there are other, deeper and more complex effects of this thing than us mere mortals know of, or are being told of. Maybe everyone that gets it has a 100% fatality timeline in the next 3 to 5 years, or something, whooooooooooooo knows.


You're right though. A vaccine that basically replicates the viruses response with these effects sounds super safe and A-okay to me...lol

[ironchop]

Boy. That sounds an awful lot like how in the first few pages I was saying that it was odd to me that there was such a push for the vaccine - that there must be another hidden component or "feature" of covid that we plebeians are not yet privy to...

It's also been odd to me that the Chicoms are still treating covid literally like the plague (shut down entire operating ports and theme parks over 1 or 2 infections...?. IE see this article; https://news.yahoo.com/over-33-000-guests-stuck-155312498.html



That pretty much confirms one of my sneaking suspicions - there are other, deeper and more complex effects of this thing than us mere mortals know of, or are being told of. Maybe everyone that gets it has a 100% fatality timeline in the next 3 to 5 years, or something, whooooooooooooo knows.


You're right though. A vaccine that basically replicates the viruses response with these effects sounds super safe and A-okay to me...lol

In short, yes I personally agree with all your suspicions in the first few pages of this thread

Everything circles back, right?

I tried SO HARD to think that this was all just a scam to make vaccine sales money from a new type of flu, but then I had to remember to stop giving people more credit than they deserve. These folks aren't idiots, and that means that they totally are aware of the dangers this thing poses o. They officially admit to killing over 10,000 people so far with the shot. That's more than enough dead people to halt right now and figure out where they went wrong before we go any further, if they truly don't want people to die (which is the point of an the hype).

This is just me talking out loud and is not a declaration, accusation, or prediction of anything:

If I were tasked with finding an "on-the-DL" way of getting rid of a bunch of useless eaters, I might develop a type of weapon that I could infect everyone with, that would kill them of naturally-occurring deadly diseases like stroke or heart attack on a random time scale but within a specific parameter of time so that everyone would think it was a natural cause of death rather than a genocide. I couldn't use a bioweapon by virus because it threatens the lives of the people I want to live with me in my elite utopia, so it needs to be directly administered and the Chosen will just not show up for the forced administering. Problem solved. The cure is the vehicle for delivery of the bioagent. That way, it can be carefully administered, just like the placebos.

Just saying

[ironchop]

Relevant article......

https://khn.org/news/article/hospital-emergency-rooms-swamped-seriously-ill-non-covid-patients/

Is this a coincidence? What say y'all?!?!

[Scootertrash]

Here's some more VAERS info for you guys......

268500



Open VAERS locates this info so people don't have to try to navigate an F'ed up system that makes it difficult to find what should be publicly disclosed info so people can make informed decisions about the vax.

https://twitter.com/OpenVAERS

[Scootertrash]

Relevant article......

https://khn.org/news/article/hospital-emergency-rooms-swamped-seriously-ill-non-covid-patients/

Is this a coincidence? What say y'all?!?!

When there is doubt, there is no doubt...;)

[Billy Golightly]

If you had not heard, OSHA is going to make it a safety requirement for companies with 100 or more employees now, to get the shot. This is completely separate from the federal employee, and federal contractor requirement.

Discussion apparently also ongoing of making that threshold even less than 100 employees.

Fines something crazy like $300,000 per occurrence violation?


Might want to ask about going 1099 Independent Contractor...don't know yet how that is going to factor into things.

[Billy Golightly]

Relevant article......

https://khn.org/news/article/hospital-emergency-rooms-swamped-seriously-ill-non-covid-patients/

Is this a coincidence? What say y'all?!?!


I had not heard anything about anything like that - but wow. Yeah...I'd definitely say that is relevant.

[Shep1970]

My brothers wife got her covid shot in the beginning then last month had her booster shot. As of sunday (halloween) has now tested covid positive- really sick on the verge of going to the hospital-

This is the second case like this i know about personally- her and then a good friend in the last couple wks same scenario.

shep

[fabiodriven]

If you had not heard, OSHA is going to make it a safety requirement for companies with 100 or more employees now, to get the shot. This is completely separate from the federal employee, and federal contractor requirement.

Discussion apparently also ongoing of making that threshold even less than 100 employees.

Fines something crazy like $300,000 per occurrence violation?


Might want to ask about going 1099 Independent Contractor...don't know yet how that is going to factor into things.

The OSHA thing isn't going to work. Their traditional cases pending are years back logged and they're woefully understaffed to take on such an undertaking. They're also not authorized to do anything about people who don't want to take vaccines. The whole idea is ridiculous, like everything the dirty dems do. They don't think about how these things are going to get done, they just throw the idea out and say "Make it so!" Bongino covered this extensively about a month ago.

[knappyfeet]

My brothers wife got her covid shot in the beginning then last month had her booster shot. As of sunday (halloween) has now tested covid positive- really sick on the verge of going to the hospital-

I hope your sister-in-law heals up soon.

Some people this virus runs ruffshot over them and others it's like a walk in the park....who knows.

I got my booster today. If it's anything like my second dose tomorrow will suck.

[Billy Golightly]

The OSHA thing isn't going to work. Their traditional cases pending are years back logged and they're woefully understaffed to take on such an undertaking. They're also not authorized to do anything about people who don't want to take vaccines. The whole idea is ridiculous, like everything the dirty dems do. They don't think about how these things are going to get done, they just throw the idea out and say "Make it so!" Bongino covered this extensively about a month ago.


Well, they'll just be conducting selective enforcement (ie dropping actual legit osha work) to focus on this farce instead. It's government. If there is one thing you can count on its them finding a way to trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro everyone over.

[fabiodriven]

Well, they'll just be conducting selective enforcement (ie dropping actual legit osha work) to focus on this farce instead. It's government. If there is one thing you can count on its them finding a way to trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro everyone over.

That wouldn't even work. Bongino did the math as to how many OSHA agents there are vs the population they'd have to cover. For every OSHA inspector there were like 63,000 people they'd be responsible for or something like that, going by memory. Like I said the show was about a month ago. I'd give it a listen if you have the time.

[Billy Golightly]

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/canine-influenza-outbreak-dogs-what-to-know

Sharing without much intelligent to say about it, other than, kinda odd...

[Billy Golightly]

That wouldn't even work. Bongino did the math as to how many OSHA agents there are vs the population they'd have to cover. For every OSHA inspector there were like 63,000 people they'd be responsible for or something like that, going by memory. Like I said the show was about a month ago. I'd give it a listen if you have the time.


I hope you and bongino are right, but with the current communist/progressive socialist climate... business owners, producers, and capitalists are the enemy and those progressives will use the full force of the government to their advantage.

I don't even think its about the vaccine itself at this point. It's about crushing the soul of the political enemy. Why else were they talking about tripling the size of the IRS employees for audits and enforcements? They're weaponizing agencies for use against political opponents.

[fabiodriven]

I hope you and bongino are right, but with the current communist/progressive socialist climate... business owners, producers, and capitalists are the enemy and those progressives will use the full force of the government to their advantage.

I don't even think its about the vaccine itself at this point. It's about crushing the soul of the political enemy. Why else were they talking about tripling the size of the IRS employees for audits and enforcements? They're weaponizing agencies for use against political opponents.

It's about the death of freedom and the end of America. R and D no longer matter. If you're not a patriot you're not helping. Our country just bankrupted itself last night to make some bad government swamp creatures wealthy. They're selling us all up the river. If Americans don't stand up to this soon it's all over. Hell it might be over already.

[Billy Golightly]

I'm obviously less than thrilled about it passing and all the individual pork projects they put in it to get the otherpeolle to go along with voting on it, but if we're going to be intellectually honest with ourselves, it's still less money than the big bill trump signed before he left office...

2.3T it was in December , after already doing the Cares act in March for 2.2T.

So the democrats are just trying to catch up to pay off their benefactors...csnt be known for short changing their people.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/trump-relief-bill-christmas-eve/index.html

I didn't like either last year either, and the last one in December really, really pissed me off.

[El Camexican]

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/canine-influenza-outbreak-dogs-what-to-know

Sharing without much intelligent to say about it, other than, kinda odd...

BREAKING NEWS

“Reports of a new canine virus are emerging. Investigators are focusing on a Chinese restaurant in California where the virus is thought to have originated in the kitchen.

World renowned veterinarian and head of the of the DDD (Department of Doggie Droppings) Dr. Fetchi is recommending that all dogs be masked up before entering public parks and to avoid all butt sniffing and licking of private parts. Masks should only be removed in order to play fetch, or while drinking water and Breeders are encouraged to continue promoting the doggie style position as it minimizes respiratory exchanges.

We’ve reached out to DDD insiders for additional details, but they appear to have been muzzled. One source who spoke anonymously indicated that Dr. Fetchi has everyone on a short leash.”

[fabiodriven]

I'm obviously less than thrilled about it passing and all the individual pork projects they put in it to get the otherpeolle to go along with voting on it, but if we're going to be intellectually honest with ourselves, it's still less money than the big bill trump signed before he left office...

2.3T it was in December , after already doing the Cares act in March for 2.2T.

So the democrats are just trying to catch up to pay off their benefactors...csnt be known for short changing their people.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/trump-relief-bill-christmas-eve/index.html

I didn't like either last year either, and the last one in December really, really pissed me off.

William this is going to amount to 5.5 trillion in the next couple years.

This is why conservatives fail so much. Instead of comparing this theft with a bill which made at least a little sense because of the situation we were in at that time, you might want to consider this entire bill is completely unnecessary and flat out theft of tax dollars on a scale so massive that our country literally may not be able to recover. But the staunch conservative brain still manages to justify an act so egregious as this. God bless you William, I love you as a friend, but trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro conservatives are just as dangerous to this country as democrats and this is exactly why.

AT WHAT POINT DO CONSERVATIVES BECOME ALARMED???

[Billy Golightly]

It's one half of the 5.5t bill because they can't get Manchin and Sinema to sign off on the rest of it. Which it'll still probably happen.

Anyways, I'm plenty sour about this. Just like I was about the two ridiculous ones passed under Trump last year. There's no justifying it, I mean there were so many hundreds of billions of dollars of payouts to other countries in that one last year. Was like 300b in one single payment to a country, I'm thinking it was Afghanistan even?

I'm hardly a loyalist, which is why I brought this up and am illustrating that the problem is government itself. It's inclusive of all parties, and all people associated with it. It's a wasteful, nearly fruitless operation that corrupts everyone who touches it over a long enough period of time. No, I'm not surprised by that. Do I like it or accept it? trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro no. But I'm not surprised...

I've been alarmed since 2001 and the Patriot Act gave government control and insight over every private aspect of your lives. Anything before that I was too young to care or know any better.

[rettespeedup]

I feel like it a never-ending, some countries have announced lockdown again.

[fabiodriven]

It's one half of the 5.5t bill because they can't get Manchin and Sinema to sign off on the rest of it. Which it'll still probably happen.

Anyways, I'm plenty sour about this. Just like I was about the two ridiculous ones passed under Trump last year. There's no justifying it, I mean there were so many hundreds of billions of dollars of payouts to other countries in that one last year. Was like 300b in one single payment to a country, I'm thinking it was Afghanistan even?

I'm hardly a loyalist, which is why I brought this up and am illustrating that the problem is government itself. It's inclusive of all parties, and all people associated with it. It's a wasteful, nearly fruitless operation that corrupts everyone who touches it over a long enough period of time. No, I'm not surprised by that. Do I like it or accept it? trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro no. But I'm not surprised...

I've been alarmed since 2001 and the Patriot Act gave government control and insight over every private aspect of your lives. Anything before that I was too young to care or know any better.

If we don't get this country under control soon it's not going to happen. It might already be too late. I appreciate your awareness and that you're concerned and that's good to hear, but I don't think enough Americans care or understand what's going on, and out of those who do I think a huge percentage of them don't even care. We've all watched society lose certain senses of morality, and not necessarily in the places we come from but overall it seems like people have far less values now. That's a huge part of our problem. With the people I've been dealing with, we've encountered corruption at every turn. People flip so easily.

A lifelong conservative that you and I both know enforces mask mandates at his work and I told him what I thought of him. He had a hard time with the reality of what I was saying. He had been hiding from the reality of what he is and didn't like it when I made him face it. We got past it though.

Then a few weeks later he tells me his work had him donate a decent amount of his own dough to a public official who was running for office. I asked him if he knew anything about her? He said he knew if she got into office, he'd get a lot more work in the future and that was the extent of what he knew about her. I looked into her, total RINO. RINOs are the worst. RINOs are destroying this country just as much as democrats and we dealt with some serious RINO infestation with the Maricopa County audit. Total mess. It's disgraceful, and there is endless supply of them.

Anyhow, our friend thought it was a big joke that he was backing this person. He tries to tell himself by selling his health rights and his voting rights that he's just being a "capitalist". I told him what he really is, and he laughed. That's what we're dealing with in this country, an epidemic of greed and low morals. I never thought I'd say this, but this country needs God. It's every man for himself now, not as many people stand for the greater good.

Ya obviously I've gotten off track here but it's looking like this country is only going to learn the hard way and I'm trying to prevent that. I'm weary and frustrated and the lack of awareness and alarm from most people is something I'll never forget if we get to a point of a catastrophe or a survival situation. I realize I'm still the new guy in the political arena and your concern in the past was very obviously warranted, and you probably thought back then more people should be aware like I feel now. Although that would have been great, that wasn't life or death in that exact moment. That was a seed planted for later. At this late hour though, we are in dire straights.

[ironchop]

I've decided that since it's tough for me to have conversations with people who are still on the "R vs D" false paradigm bandwagon, I just avoid talking politics most of the time anymore. I end up in an argument either way and I'm either a "commie" or a "Nazi" so I can't win.

It's like being stuck between two separate brick walls and I just beat my head off both sides.

Clinton is why I'm not a Democrat anymore and Bush following him is why I'm not a Republican anymore. I sided Republican for many years but they've been getting openly betrayed to their faces and I can't support traitors regardless of who they claim to be representing.

We need a third option, and Libertarian USA is run by flip floppers. Need something else. If we don't fill the vacuum, the socialists will

***, Yes I was an ex-Reaganite who went liberal until Clinton showed his fascist tendencies and then I went Right for freedoms and a Constitutional Republic. Then I started voting purely for whoever was less likely to fekk us over. Then I quit voting. Then I voted for Trump.**

I've been all around the political spectrum. Hate me if you want. Political parties are bullshit and don't accurately or completely represent probably 70% of Americans. It's ignorant to think that there are only two valid politician persuasions that are neatly divided on every single position.

I'm still in favor of a Constitutional Republic, though

[fabiodriven]

I've decided that since it's tough for me to have conversations with people who are still on the "R&D" bandwagon, I just avoid talking politics most of the time anymore. I end up in an argument either way and I'm either a "commie" or a "Nazi" so I can't win.

It's like being stuck between two separate brick walls and I just beat my head off both sides.

Clinton is why I'm not a Democrat anymore and Bush following him is why I'm not a Republican anymore. I sided Republican for many years but they've been getting openly betrayed to their faces and I can't support traitors regardless of who they claim to be representing.

We need a third option, and Libertarian USA is run by flip floppers. Need something else. If we don't fill the vacuum, the socialists will

Consider yourself a patriot. If I'm asked for a label I tell people I'm a "nationalist constitutionalist" who espouses conservative values. The difference between myself and a conservative is I'm not bending over and taking it, I'm not for sale, I have a backbone, and I'm very anxious to take action as well as hold public officials accountable.

We need to overhaul the GOP, that's the way. Starting another party is a recipe for disaster.

[Scootertrash]

Consider yourself a patriot. If I'm asked for a label I tell people I'm a "nationalist constitutionalist" who espouses conservative values.

OOOOHH!! I Like that!!!

I had previously resorted to just plain old "Conservative".....

[El Camexican]

OOOOHH!! I Like that!!!

I had previously resorted to just plain old "Conservative".....

One word labels no longer work in this day and age. Just look at the LBGTQRXTUV X 2 crowd. These people are constantly upgrading their label to better clarify what they stand (or squat) for.

[sledcrazyinCT]

The push to get 5-11 year olds vaccinated in Connecticut is alarming. Just got a notice from Superintendent telling parents will be done on site through December. Homeschooling will be considered depending on restrictions for avoiding vaccination at this point in time.
Children of this age group are rarely at risk so we find it unnecessary.

[fabiodriven]

The push to get 5-11 year olds vaccinated in Connecticut is alarming. Just got a notice from Superintendent telling parents will be done on site through December. Homeschooling will be considered depending on restrictions for avoiding vaccination at this point in time.
Children of this age group are rarely at risk so we find it unnecessary.

Man that sucks to hear Jim. Stay strong and stand your ground.

[Billy Golightly]

I feel like I got rather eviscerated for this stand point earlier this year when I was trying to make it in an earlier post...but this seems like an appropriate time to try again;


We all seem to be educated to a reasonable level at least on what is going on in the world and in our country, and with the a few exceptions here, it seems most are unhappy with it.




How many of us, has actually participated in the political process recently? Has anyone been to a school board meeting? City council, or county commission meeting? Called, emailed, or met with a state or federal representative? Went to a constituent townhall meeting and asked a question (i can't say I've managed to do much, but I have done that), wrote a letter or provided input during some federal agencies notice of rule making (did a couple of those too), met in person with or attended a political group or club (local republican group, libertarian, NRA, anarchist, whatever...), met with or talked with someone campaigning for a local position? These are things that expand your knowledge of the process, and does *actually* give you the opportunity to turn the political knob one way or another, even if it is microscopically.


Facebook, television news, online politic groups (and real life, but to a lesser degree, I think) distract us (as in "we the people") from participating in the political process. Right-leaning folks in general, do not have a natural tendency to like or want to participate in the political process. I'd say that stems from the general notion and desire to just want to be left alone and let us do our thing. We work our asses off, get home, want to crack a beer and put our feet up on the week days. And on the weekends we want to target shoot, go motorcycle riding, go fishing, tinker in the shop, or find a girlfriend for the weekend. Real political work to most of us is worse than trying to change ball joints for your buddy in his yard with poor drainage while you sit in the wet dirt with a claw hammer and a pair of walmart flower pliers. However, the opposing side has absolutely no qualms about participating in and using every avenue of the political process, to their advantage. Always.

we have to start being cognizant of the LACK OF OUR OWN PARTICIPATION IN THE ACTUAL POLITICAL PROCESSES


You've got to go to those .gov meetings. You need to sign up to get notified when your state rep, federal reps are having town halls, and you need to actually go to them. You need to find out where your local political masters congregate at, and start being around them. You need to talk to, and meet with people running for an office. If you find someone you really like, you need to volunteer and work for them. It's work that makes you feel dirty, uncomfortable, and undesirable, but thats the sort of thing that will actually make a difference. These parents and families attending these school board meetings in VA and actually going, showing up, making a face and stating their peace about these issues instituted real change in Virgina. The Tea Party gatherings and movements in 2008 did the same. I hope this movement started in schoolboards lasts longer than the tea party did before losing steam.


As much as people are distracted by sitcoms on television at night and their candy crush facebook games consuming their life, we are distracted by meaningless "easy" political activism in places like this forum, and this post. I'm guilty of it too, believe me. I've only just started to recognize it in the last year. I hope I can help others to really think about it and recognize it also.

"Q", as an example to me, was for a very very long time either an intentional BS feeding distraction by the Bolsheviks trying to take over the country, or from an enemy, to distract right leaning folks away from taking meaningful actual action, and to just keep holding tight. Well, hate to say it, but best as I can tell, Q theories aren't coming to our rescue. There is no silver bullet event or system just going to magically make everything right in the country. It is naïve and a disservice to yourself and your country, to think so and idly wait for some grand plan of someone elses to hatch and make everything right. Frankly at this point, I question how much group and communal projects/undertakings with regards to politics are even effective. But if you feel like congregating and "working" with other like minded individuals makes it easier for you to do meaningful participation, then fine.



the bolsheviks have Hillary and Obama's favorite book, Rules For Radicals.



Freedom loving, constitution loving America needs an equivalent. It could be called "Quit playing in politics, and start meaningfully participating in politics".


Just think about that. Think about the difference between playing in politics, and active participation, in politics.

[ironchop]

My wife and I are looking into local party chair position

Gear change

As for me, I'm not really "educated"...... I'm not all that bright. I only have to be brighter than some other guy to get by in life. Kinda like you don't need to be faster than the Bear that is chasing you, just need to be faster than your buddy that you went camping with in the first place [emoji1787]

I graduated highschool then I spent 1.5 years in a university, ran out of money, and never went back. I'm a farm kid/redneck/blue collar. The pay sucks and some people treat you like you're stupid especially if they "have an education". Nevertheless, I feel no resentment to anyone who stayed the course and graduated a university of any kind. It just wasn't in the cards for me initially and eventually it was something I was no longer interested in completing. I had a family to raise and support and there wasn't enough time in the day for me. I might make snarky comments about people who are too full of themselves in regards to thinking they have the intellectual high ground in any debate, solely based on their University achievements. Otherwise, I don't have a problem with college educated people. I thought I should clarify that, after rereading my own comments above.

In other news...... .

They are moving the Goalpost again. Hopefully people are going to get sick of constantly becoming no longer "fully vaccinated" every couple of months and start demanding answers from the "experts"

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211115/02d602cc706541bb35ecbbd522f063c5.jpg

BTW......."maximum efficacy"??????

They claimed that it was "95% effective" in the beginning. Do they think we are too stupid to understand that it's bullshit to need untold number of shots in order to get that last little 5% of available efficacy? I guess now we know that was a load of hooey

The second pic is the single greatest example of cognitive dissonance and a form of confirmation bias both, that I have seen in a very long time. I'm not sure who Gary Black is, but I suspect that he'll either end up embarrassed by that absolute lack of critical thinking, or he'll end up sick every flu season because it never occurred to him that his understanding of the gene therapy that he calls a vaccine was flawed, at best. I wish this guy well and hope he doesn't drown in his own bigotry and ignorance. Otherwise, it's entertaining to watch people make fools of themselves on Twetter

"It's just for two weeks to flatten the curve"

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211115/5e49b879c6e1c774993d7aa1324a4648.jpg

Sitting around "trusting the plan" is useless and always has been. I guess it's more appealing to be told you don't have to do anything to save yourself, because other super secret anonymous people are coming to do it for you. F***K that.

Posting pics of yourself waving your AR-15 and bedazzling your wife's minivan with 'Come and Take Em" stickers is not a solution either, unless the problem you were trying to solve was 'How to figure out who all is an armed patriot and potentially an enemy combatant to the Bolsheviks' and then in that case, you have done the State's work for them. God Bless Snitchbook and people who totally tell on themselves.

'Nesara' has failed to pay my bills off, as promised, so F**k that nonsense as well.

Sent from my motorola one 5G ace using Tapatalk

[fabiodriven]

Good posts from William and Doug there.

Yes William is right about people's participation and what it amounts to. As someone who has spent the last few months "working" virtually with the Maricopa County audit I can tell you first hand. The audit ended up being a massive flop and we're still trying to piece together what happened. Did the audit do the work they were claiming to and hide the results, did they not do the work and just pretend they were doing an audit, or were they actively working to cover up the physical anomalies? We honestly do not know at this point. What we do know however, is we've been had.

The audit was set up to distract us so we didn't get any traction and have any true results. Instead of trying to stop an audit, they provided one that they controlled. Just another filthy political trick. They were waiting for us on the telegram app, it was a total setup. The group I'm a member of is one of very few pages on that app run by true patriots. It's a long story.

Anyhow at one point we were involved in affidavits, and to the point William was making about putting effort into politics as far as writing, calling, and emailing, I'm not going to tell everyone it's a total waste of time doing those things but here's the thing. In the group I'm involved with for months every week there's a new call or email campaign, and in my experience that means bupkiss, nothing. The politicians we are dealing with are for sale, they have zero morals and they're not where they are to serve you or this country. They're there to make themselves as wealthy as possible as easily as possible, even if that means selling their country out to China. They absolutely do not care about this country, and don't think for a second they do. Always assume that about any politician until you absolutely know with 100% certainty otherwise. They are laughing at their intern taking your phone calls and they are wiping their arses with your letters, that's just how it is now. They are not serving the people of this country and they don't care if you don't like it.

I do agree speaking with them face to face and going to school board meetings is a much much better idea. That's huge, and don't forget that it's not only your right but your duty to speak to these people sternly if they so deserve it. That's important, and do not let them tell you that you can't talk to them anymore unless you talk to them nicely. That's bee ess. It is our constitutional duty to straighten these people out when they're doing wrong and you know what I'm talking about.

The point is here to take action, now or never. Top down rule does not work in this country and all you have to do to see that is look at both the Trump and potato administrations. Neither of them could get control of this country and obviously that's how our government is set up. So how do we have an impact?

From the bottom up, as our government was set up to work. County committeemen positions. I think that's what Doug was referring to, or precinct chair, there are a few titles for it. That's the key though. I almost started a thread on this last week but the vast majority of people on this forum don't give a flying frig. In 2020 there was something like only 40% of committee chairs filled nationwide, and if there's an open seat you just waltz in and claim it. Supposedly it's only a couple of hours a month to do it, not a huge deal. We need to fill these seats nationally. I went to my town hall last week to look into this, but I'd have to go to the county which has kind of taken the wind out of my sails. I live right along the border of the county here, and I relate more to the county next door than my own, plus the county headquarters I'd have to report to is kinda far away and it's in a city. I'm really not as hot on the idea for those reasons. I'm sure people might say it shouldn't matter where I serve but it does to me for some reason. I've not completely ruled it out yet, but I'm not as hot on the idea as I was.

Anyhow become a precinct committeeman!

https://precinctstrategy.com/

[El Camexican]

Coming soon to North America, the “nu” and improved variant. 10 times more spiky than the old version, it’s guaranteed to take the pandemic to the next level.

[big specht]

Yea yea and there will be another next year too :crazy: it’s all cause us non vaccinated people are spreading it to the vaccinated people and causing them to get it. Hoosier DaddyHoosier DaddyHoosier Daddy

[El Camexican]

Yea yea and there will be another next year too :crazy: it’s all cause us non vaccinated people are spreading it to the vaccinated people and causing them to get it. Hoosier DaddyHoosier DaddyHoosier Daddy

I figure it will hit the States just in time to justify mail in voting in 2022. Just a guess.

[kiser]

That's also my guess. Once again, the goal post has been moved.

[El Camexican]

That's also my guess. Once again, the goal post has been moved.

“Never let a good crisis go to waste”

[fabiodriven]

https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-judge-stands-up-to-a-hospital-step

[sledcrazyinCT]

John, Can you guess one of the ingredients that is in the new Pfizer COVID pill? Big Pharma needs to make da money....

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[Billy Golightly]

https://aapsonline.org/bidens-bounty-on-your-life-hospitals-incentive-payments-for-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0JLamGnu9aqzxucS4dcjL4t28PZBq-qElkb7XzNDzjZRNX7puTEKfVrwQ

Interesting article that details a little bit on how the hospitals are paid (incentivized?) for covid patients and diagnosis

"Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon, we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient. But Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient."

[fabiodriven]

John, Can you guess one of the ingredients that is in the new Pfizer COVID pill? Big Pharma needs to make da money....

268642

Hmmm... Is it ivermectin?

[fabiodriven]

https://aapsonline.org/bidens-bounty-on-your-life-hospitals-incentive-payments-for-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0JLamGnu9aqzxucS4dcjL4t28PZBq-qElkb7XzNDzjZRNX7puTEKfVrwQ

Interesting article that details a little bit on how the hospitals are paid (incentivized?) for covid patients and diagnosis

"Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon, we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient. But Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient."

It's funny, I'm just an average Joe but I knew this over a year ago. I am really looking forward to the "I told ya so" stage.

[Scootertrash]

John, Can you guess one of the ingredients that is in the new Pfizer COVID pill? Big Pharma needs to make da money....

268642

I have a guess but....

If it's Ivermectin is there a source to back up the claim?

[kiser]

That's a good article Billy. It really suprises me that people choose to believe things like that don't happen. I have tried to explain to several people that all of the "free" coved shots and "free" money they are throwing around, isn't free! They are making money off of us, they have to be! If all of this crap was free, they would go broke and that won't happen.

[Scootertrash]

It's funny, I'm just an average Joe but I knew this over a year ago. I am really looking forward to the "I told ya so" stage.

You and I both.

[Billy Golightly]

So I've heard a few times recently some talking heads make the comment that "The unvaccinated are where the variants are originating from".


From my (admittedly small) knowledge - this does not seem practical, but I want to learn and understand the logic in why someone would say this even. Does not mean I'll believe it, but I'd like to learn and understand the factual basis or logical reasoning for this statement.


Does anyone know the answer, or have any articles they can provide / link to that explains that specific part to me? How unvaccinated are more likely to originate a variant virus, than those that are vaccinated?

[ATC King]

"The unvaccinated are where the variants are originating from".



It's just to further dehumanize a group of people so they can continue to manipulate their herd of sheep. May as well be calling the unvaccinated barbarians and savages...

https://media2.giphy.com/media/aGBn8TJs8nxfyo6F6J/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ljzxd85if39u3p3mt68ssh7qnpz9 6mzb02r16hsg&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[El Camexican]

Starting off by saying it’s more fitting to put the letters DF in front of my name instead of Dr. I’d like to take a shot at answering your question.

First and foremost I don’t think anyone at any level of science can definitively state that the variances are originating solely in unvaccinated people. The word vaccine shouldn’t even be used for these products. They probably would’ve had a much better chance of convincing everyone to take them at the onset if they would’ve simply called them immune system enhancers which is what I perceive them to be. Had they been called this right from the beginning then people wouldn’t be freaking out about these so-called breakthrough cases.

So anyway, I guess those who are claiming these variants are originating from the unvaccinated are making the assumption that when someone is vaccinated the virus dies within their body prior to escaping to the next host in a mutated state, but with breakthrough cases admittedly being common (if not the norm by now) it would make sense to me that the virus is more likely to mutate in vaccinated body before moving on to another host.

Why do I think this? Well let’s look at antibiotics. If there was no such thing as antibiotics bacteria probably wouldn’t need to mutate as much in order to survive, but we do have antibiotics and it is within the body of someone who has taken them, usually improperly, that bacteria are given the chance to mutate and develop a resistance against the antibiotic. I’m not suggesting that bacteria would not mutate within the body of someone who had not taken an antibiotic as our natural defenses are are in a never ending war with certain bacteria, but antibiotics are the nuclear bombs of bacteria warfare and whatever survives the explosion becomes stronger. If this is true, and knowing that breakthrough cases exist, does it not make sense that the virus is more likely to mutate when battling and enhanced immune system?

Now consider that your immune system is probably different from mine due to genetics as well as the climates we’ve grown up in and that you may have had a viral illness in your childhood that I didn’t and vice versa, so our immune systems have developed differently. With respect to the vaccinations, if 2,000,000 people get a jab of Moderna then the virus needs to mutate only once in a Moderna vaccinated host to be able to access the remaining 1,999,999 people. It would be like having one key that fit every padlock on the planet.

Of course the example of above only considers that the virus needs to be able to get past the Moderna vaccine, but the reality is that we still have natural defenses which are very different amongst us, so the virus still has work to do in order to survive long enough to mutate.

At the end of it all I suspect that we will never know exactly how and why the viruses mutate simply because no one‘s ever figured it out up to now. The AIDS virus mutates, so fast that I read years ago some scientist said there was no way they could ever develop a vaccine for it, only a treatment. How has this changed for Corona? The reality is that we’ve never ended a virus with vaccinations, only bacterial diseases.

Conclusion (in my uneducated mind) The virus is going to continue to mutate no matter what until such time as it mutates into something that is highly contagious, but has a lower mortality rate, like the common cold. Depending on who you want to believe in the news right now, this might already be happening.

[Scootertrash]

It's just to further dehumanize a group of people so they can continue to manipulate their herd of sheep. May as well be calling the unvaccinated barbarians and savages...

https://media2.giphy.com/media/aGBn8TJs8nxfyo6F6J/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ljzxd85if39u3p3mt68ssh7qnpz9 6mzb02r16hsg&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


Yup, exactly what ATC King said.

[Scootertrash]

Starting off by saying it’s more fitting to put the letters DF in front of my name instead of Dr. I’d like to take a shot at answering your question.

First and foremost I don’t think anyone at any level of science can definitively state that the variances are originating solely in unvaccinated people. The word vaccine shouldn’t even be used for these products. They probably would’ve had a much better chance of convincing everyone to take them at the onset if they would’ve simply called them immune system enhancers which is what I perceive them to be. Had they been called this right from the beginning then people wouldn’t be freaking out about these so-called breakthrough cases.

So anyway, I guess those who are claiming these variants are originating from the unvaccinated are making the assumption that when someone is vaccinated the virus dies within their body prior to escaping to the next host in a mutated state, but with breakthrough cases admittedly being common (if not the norm by now) it would make sense to me that the virus is more likely to mutate in vaccinated body before moving on to another host.

Why do I think this? Well let’s look at antibiotics. If there was no such thing as antibiotics bacteria probably wouldn’t need to mutate as much in order to survive, but we do have antibiotics and it is within the body of someone who has taken them, usually improperly, that bacteria are given the chance to mutate and develop a resistance against the antibiotic. I’m not suggesting that bacteria would not mutate within the body of someone who had not taken an antibiotic as our natural defenses are are in a never ending war with certain bacteria, but antibiotics are the nuclear bombs of bacteria warfare and whatever survives the explosion becomes stronger. If this is true, and knowing that breakthrough cases exist, does it not make sense that the virus is more likely to mutate when battling and enhanced immune system?

Now consider that your immune system is probably different from mine due to genetics as well as the climates we’ve grown up in and that you may have had a viral illness in your childhood that I didn’t and vice versa, so our immune systems have developed differently. With respect to the vaccinations, if 2,000,000 people get a jab of Moderna then the virus needs to mutate only once in a Moderna vaccinated host to be able to access the remaining 1,999,999 people. It would be like having one key that fit every padlock on the planet.

Of course the example of above only considers that the virus needs to be able to get past the Moderna vaccine, but the reality is that we still have natural defenses which are very different amongst us, so the virus still has work to do in order to survive long enough to mutate.

At the end of it all I suspect that we will never know exactly how and why the viruses mutate simply because no one‘s ever figured it out up to now. The AIDS virus mutates, so fast that I read years ago some scientist said there was no way they could ever develop a vaccine for it, only a treatment. How has this changed for Corona? The reality is that we’ve never ended a virus with vaccinations, only bacterial diseases.

Conclusion (in my uneducated mind) The virus is going to continue to mutate no matter what until such time as it mutates into something that is highly contagious, but has a lower mortality rate, like the common cold. Depending on who you want to believe in the news right now, this might already be happening.

Excellent post!!

Here's another take I have:

What if there are in actuality NO VARIANTS? These SARS based viruses come and go thru-out the year, just like the flu and the common cold. So, IIRC this time of year is typically when these viruses show up for another run.

Claim it's a "new variant" to keep the public scared and taking the booster shots they need to battle the "new variant".


FWIW, in the last couple of months I've had 3 aquaintences come down with the 'vid:

1 neighbor lady who works at the local elementary school, pretty sure she caught it there. Vaxxed, felt like crap for 2 weeks but not bedridden.

2nd neighbor lady, not sure where she picked it up. Not vaxxed, felt super crappy for 2 weeks, then took another 2 weeks to finish recovery.

3rd is recent. Buddy of mine came down with it last week, not vaxxed, tested positive on Wednesday, talked to him Sunday night, he sounded tired, said he was doing OK but really tired. They took him to the doc on Monday(?) to try to get the monoclonal antibody treatment but his oxy was too low. They put him on oxy, just the nasal lines, (cannular?). He went unconscious Tue night, they said they didn't expect him to make it thru yesterday. His wife somehow got them to let her take him home last night (He didn't want to die in the hospital without his family around him), not sure of the whole deal but they took him off of the meds and oxy and he seemed to improve. They brought him home last night, and I have yet to hear anything negative today.

[El Camexican]

Damn, thoughts and prayers for your buddy, buddy. Let’s us know how it works out. God bless.

[fabiodriven]

Starting off by saying it’s more fitting to put the letters DF in front of my name instead of Dr. I’d like to take a shot at answering your question.

First and foremost I don’t think anyone at any level of science can definitively state that the variances are originating solely in unvaccinated people. The word vaccine shouldn’t even be used for these products. They probably would’ve had a much better chance of convincing everyone to take them at the onset if they would’ve simply called them immune system enhancers which is what I perceive them to be. Had they been called this right from the beginning then people wouldn’t be freaking out about these so-called breakthrough cases.

So anyway, I guess those who are claiming these variants are originating from the unvaccinated are making the assumption that when someone is vaccinated the virus dies within their body prior to escaping to the next host in a mutated state, but with breakthrough cases admittedly being common (if not the norm by now) it would make sense to me that the virus is more likely to mutate in vaccinated body before moving on to another host.

Why do I think this? Well let’s look at antibiotics. If there was no such thing as antibiotics bacteria probably wouldn’t need to mutate as much in order to survive, but we do have antibiotics and it is within the body of someone who has taken them, usually improperly, that bacteria are given the chance to mutate and develop a resistance against the antibiotic. I’m not suggesting that bacteria would not mutate within the body of someone who had not taken an antibiotic as our natural defenses are are in a never ending war with certain bacteria, but antibiotics are the nuclear bombs of bacteria warfare and whatever survives the explosion becomes stronger. If this is true, and knowing that breakthrough cases exist, does it not make sense that the virus is more likely to mutate when battling and enhanced immune system?

Now consider that your immune system is probably different from mine due to genetics as well as the climates we’ve grown up in and that you may have had a viral illness in your childhood that I didn’t and vice versa, so our immune systems have developed differently. With respect to the vaccinations, if 2,000,000 people get a jab of Moderna then the virus needs to mutate only once in a Moderna vaccinated host to be able to access the remaining 1,999,999 people. It would be like having one key that fit every padlock on the planet.

Of course the example of above only considers that the virus needs to be able to get past the Moderna vaccine, but the reality is that we still have natural defenses which are very different amongst us, so the virus still has work to do in order to survive long enough to mutate.

At the end of it all I suspect that we will never know exactly how and why the viruses mutate simply because no one‘s ever figured it out up to now. The AIDS virus mutates, so fast that I read years ago some scientist said there was no way they could ever develop a vaccine for it, only a treatment. How has this changed for Corona? The reality is that we’ve never ended a virus with vaccinations, only bacterial diseases.

Conclusion (in my uneducated mind) The virus is going to continue to mutate no matter what until such time as it mutates into something that is highly contagious, but has a lower mortality rate, like the common cold. Depending on who you want to believe in the news right now, this might already be happening.

Why would you consider the jab an "immune system booster" when statistically the places that have the most people jabbed have the highest number of cases and the places with the least amount jabbed have the least cases?

I realize you're just speculating. I feel like if this were an "immune system booster" it would have been much more successful to market it as such.

[fabiodriven]

My personal opinion is simple. This is not a vaccine by the very definition of the word, we know that, but it's labeled as one regardless of that fact. That alone is highly suspect. The world has gone insane when people are allowing something pushed in such questionable ways (putting it lightly) to be injected into their bodies when the entire point of taking that injection is to be protected against something it doesn't protect you from. Seriously it blows my mind people don't see this happening in front of their faces.

It's so simple. "Vaccine" -best case scenario it supposedly protects you against hospitalization, a metric that is humanly impossible to prove either way because you don't have any results without a jab to contrast against. That's the biggest plus this "treatment" has in the "pro" column, and it's a claim that can never be proven on anyone, ever.

Worst case scenario, death, with no recourse. Convenient the drug companies have absolved themselves of any responsibility. As if it weren't bad enough the drug doesn't protect against what they claim it's supposed to, if that wasn't enough to stop you, you're also risking bells palsy and other muscular injuries which can be permanent.

And let's say the likelihood of these adverse events were extremely low, which they aren't, but for the sake of discussion let's say they were. Even if the chances of adverse events were extremely low, that's still a risk. Risk vs reward. What's the reward here? Even a near non-existent risk is not worth no reward, never mind the massive risk involved with this drug.

Add into that all the bad stigma behind this, the medical tyranny, the lawlessness, the lack of studies showing any positive results, and the blatant dismissal of science... How on earth could anyone not see what this is?

But it's all worth it! Because you get the benefit of..... Ummm...

[El Camexican]

Why would you consider the jab an "immune system booster" when statistically the places that have the most people jabbed have the highest number of cases and the places with the least amount jabbed have the least cases?

I realize you're just speculating. I feel like if this were an "immune system booster" it would have been much more successful to market it as such.

You’re right, I’m absolutely speculating. Not as much as Dr. Fauci seems to be, but yes, speculating.

Why would I call it an immune system enhancer? Well, I think we can both agree it’s not a vaccine and from there I base my beliefs on the comments of some of the so called vaccine experts who have said that what the jabs do is trigger a response to a benign spike protein similar to the Covid protein which supposedly gets your body’s immune system ready to take on the real thing. Like taking Advil before to going to bed after a drunk instead of waiting till morning when you already have a hangover.

I’m not entirely convinced of the stats that are showing that more vaccinated people are dying are as clear, cut and dried as they might appear. Consider that it was the elderly that were first vaccinated in most countries, so two things were sure to happen statistically, especially if the protective properties of the vaccines diminish with time.

The first is that a lot of these people were going to die soon no matter what. A 90 year old person gets a jab and dies a month later, hard to blame the jab when in reality the person already had one foot on a banana peel and the other over a hole, so that statistic is iffy. The other is that if the efficacy of the vaccines diminishes over time, it stands to reason that the first people that got vaccinated are the first ones that lost the protection the vaccines offered making them more vulnerable, especially if the Covid strain they contracted differed from the original.

The point I’m trying to make is that unless the age, weight and underlying conditions are included in the stats of those who are reported to be dying of Covid, it’s hard to prove that being vaccinated makes someone more susceptible to dying.

Just my $0.02

[fabiodriven]

If you can handle this, you're a better man than I am. As time passes, more information is collected obviously. This is more information than I can handle right now, lol. It's late and I'm tired. I got a couple pages in and they started addressing the odd patterns the graphs were showing, which I was curious about, but I bailed there. I'll go back to it.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356756711_Latest_statistics_on_England_mortality_d ata_suggest_systematic_mis-categorisation_of_vaccine_status_and_uncertain_eff ectiveness_of_Covid-19_vaccination

[El Camexican]

I read the whole thing, but please don’t tell me there will be a test :lol:

Very interesting. My takeaways were that if you get vaccinated you’d better be very cautious for the next month till they kick in and that there are variables like lifestyle that we will probably never be able to account for when trying to conclude how effective (or not) the so called vaccines are.

It also reinforced that we’re very much living in the experimental stage of this mess.

[Scootertrash]

Damn, thoughts and prayers for your buddy, buddy. Let’s us know how it works out. God bless.

Well, so far we haven't heard much updated info, so we are all assuming "no news is good news"

[ATC King]

Regardless of what is and isn't, if anyone feels like they may have it, immediately get tested and start treatment. That's whatever treatment a person is comfortable with.

Quick identification and treatment is always best for ANY illness. Numbers aren't going to be correct, but I'd bet the flu is going to kill a whole lot more people than it historically has.

In the US, local urgent care centers have been poping up in more places and they're typically a much bettter choice than hospitals for the rapid onset of seasonal illnesses.

[fabiodriven]

Regardless of what is and isn't, if anyone feels like they may have it, immediately get tested and start treatment. That's whatever treatment a person is comfortable with.

Quick identification and treatment is always best for ANY illness. Numbers aren't going to be correct, but I'd bet the flu is going to kill a whole lot more people than it historically has.

In the US, local urgent care centers have been poping up in more places and they're typically a much bettter choice than hospitals for the rapid onset of seasonal illnesses.

This is so important. A lot of doctors now are telling covid patients to sit and wait, then if it gets bad enough go to the hospital. This is asenine. DO NOT WAIT! You can treat this at home but it is imperative that you begin treating right away. I swear to God the health care system is trying to kill us now.

I'm not going to bother posting the treatment protocol my very intelligent nurse friend has shared with me, but I'm more than willing to share if anyone is interested. Specht saw it, I sent it to him. I personally didn't use her full protocol, I just used vitimin D3, vitimin C, zinc, and ivermectin. That worked well enough for me but the protocol I have involves things above my paygrade.

[ATC King]

A lot of doctors now are telling covid patients to sit and wait, then if it gets bad enough go to the hospital. This is asenine.


No doubt. A good doctor wouldn't suggest avoiding treatment until near death.

US hospitals are now like US nursing homes. They're both places where family is sent to suffer and die while the top administration makes bank.

[fabiodriven]

No doubt. A good doctor wouldn't suggest avoiding treatment until near death.

US hospitals are now like US nursing homes. They're both places where family is sent to suffer and die while the top administration makes bank.

That's exactly right. They've been killing people since this started instead of treating people.

[oldskool83]

Killing people, raising prices, less of us to pay taxes so everything ever higher now, seems like it's all set up somehow.

[Scootertrash]

This is so important. A lot of doctors now are telling covid patients to sit and wait, then if it gets bad enough go to the hospital. This is asenine. DO NOT WAIT! You can treat this at home but it is imperative that you begin treating right away. I swear to God the health care system is trying to kill us now.

I'm not going to bother posting the treatment protocol my very intelligent nurse friend has shared with me, but I'm more than willing to share if anyone is interested. Specht saw it, I sent it to him. I personally didn't use her full protocol, I just used vitimin D3, vitimin C, zinc, and ivermectin. That worked well enough for me but the protocol I have involves things above my paygrade.

Fabs, Sent you a IM :naughty:

[Scootertrash]

if anyone feels like they may have it, immediately get tested and start treatment. That's whatever treatment a person is comfortable with.

Quick identification and treatment is always best for ANY illness.

The wife of the person I mentioned above thinks he should have gone in sooner, I wasn't there so I can't verify how bad he was. Still haven't heard anything bad, so he must be fairly stable. I'll be making some calls tonight.

I highly recommend that EVERYBODY have a thermometer and an Oximeter (One of those little things that goes on your finger for pulse and oxy level) handy at home, and stay on top of your stats!


ETA: Here's a prevention Protocol and an Early Treatment protocol, might be the close to the same thing mentioned above:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

[Scootertrash]

I'm just gonna leave this here.......


Senior doctors in London say Britain faces a time-bomb of up to 300,000 new patients with heart conditions – which they attribute to “post-pandemic stress disorder”.


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/12/07/doctors-uk-faces-up-to-300000-new-heart-condition-cases-due-to-post-pandemic-stress-disorder/

From the article:


“I’ve seen a big increase in thrombotic-related vascular conditions in my practice. Far younger patients are being admitted and requiring surgical and medical intervention than prior to the pandemic,” said senior vascular surgeon Tahir Hussain

From the internet:

Thrombosis:Thrombosis occurs when blood clots block veins or arteries. Symptoms include pain and swelling in one leg, chest pain, or numbness on one side of the body. Complications of thrombosis can be life-threatening, such as a stroke or heart attack

From the article:


“We also have evidence that some patients have died at home from conditions such as pulmonary embolism and myocardial infarction.

Pulmonary Embolism:Pulmonary embolism is a blockage in one of the pulmonary arteries in your lungs. In most cases, pulmonary embolism is caused by blood clots that travel to the lungs from deep veins in the legs or, rarely, from veins in other parts of the body (deep vein thrombosis).

Myocardial Infarction: A heart attack (myocardial infarction) happens when one or more areas of the heart muscle don't get enough oxygen. This happens when blood flow to the heart muscle is blocked.


ETA: Good thing there are no clotting issues related to medicating to prevent this virus:shiftyeyes:

[Scootertrash]

A little more info from Fraudci:

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1470469062698414090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/i/status/1470469062698414090


In my mind he's basically admitting that they are using the public as guinea pigs.

[Shep1970]

I just think it's so odd that "they" even today are claiming the unvaccinated are the one's filling the hospitals/getting sick and i've even heard on multiple occasions that "we are" well u know the un vaxxed are the one's causing the virus mutations. What a crock of do-do.
In my and wifes personnel circle of fam/friends/work related people and even related to a few hospital staff in the area. We know lots of folks and i'm not saying we know more than anyone else but from what we've personally seen with our own two eyes completely contradicts what "they" say is happening.
Over the last few months and longer just about all covid cases we've heard of it has been a person that has had the so-called vax and/or even a booster shot.
My brothers wife had it recently (shes good now) but when she got better she was so thankful that she got vaxxed even though at one point she felt like she was gonna die, i said to her well maybe if u didn't get "vaxxed" it wouldnt have been as bad.......oh yup that was a mistake (she's in the media tells the truth bubble)
Welp life goes on.....I do however take my Flintstone's vitamins every day:rolleyes:

Also have to add that most of the people i know that got the shot- they will not be be getting the so-called booster after now knowing what their body went through the first time around.
shep

[ironchop]

I just think it's so odd that "they" even today are claiming the unvaccinated are the one's filling the hospitals/getting sick and i've even heard on multiple occasions that "we are" well u know the un vaxxed are the one's causing the virus mutations. What a crock of do-do.
In my and wifes personnel circle of fam/friends/work related people and even related to a few hospital staff in the area. We know lots of folks and i'm not saying we know more than anyone else but from what we've personally seen with our own two eyes completely contradicts what "they" say is happening.
Over the last few months and longer just about all covid cases we've heard of it has been a person that has had the so-called vax and/or even a booster shot.
My brothers wife had it recently (shes good now) but when she got better she was so thankful that she got vaxxed even though at one point she felt like she was gonna die, i said to her well maybe if u didn't get "vaxxed" it wouldnt have been as bad.......oh yup that was a mistake (she's in the media tells the truth bubble)
Welp life goes on.....I do however take my Flintstone's vitamins every day:rolleyes:

Also have to add that most of the people i know that got the shot- they will not be be getting the so-called booster after now knowing what their body went through the first time around.
shep

Hey Shep! Good to see you.

Hey, funny you mentioned the unvaccinated.......

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/cornell-partially-shuts-down-its-campus-due-to-nearly-500-covid-19-cases-in-possible-omicron-outbreak-11639514565?mod=mw_more_headlines

There's a few good gems of Truth and some "narrative busters" in that article above

Also, I thought Cornell ordered everyone on the property to be vaxxed.... So who are the 3% and how do they exist on campus? I'll bet they don't exist at all. I'll bet that they just don't want to admit a massive "omicron outbreak" within a body of completely vaccinated people

Also Shep...... Lots of medical pros in my friends and family and it's the same thing here as it is there. I don't read much on the virus anymore. I don't have to. I don't need anecdotal evidence to convince me because I have so much first-person and personally witnessed events to assure you that from where I'm at, the vaxxed account for most of our hospitalisations and deaths locally. It's f******scary because i have so many vaxxed loved ones. Out of four people I knew that died, three were vaxxed fully, to please their employers. Two of them waited a very long time to get treatment because they BELIEVED they were gonna be ok that "the symptoms will be much lesser and you won't die" like those lying POSs told the public. One local company who sponsored a vaccine drive in their parking lot, lost 65% of their workforce earlier this year to a massive covid outbreak. Then half the other 35% were sent home, having no symptoms, for "exposure" to others who had it. That company was where I caught Covid myself. Two of the four people I know that died, both worked there. They lost about a month of production in a 1,000 employee plant

[ironchop]

Oh......... And the "Fever Test" is f***in bullshit. Several people including myself and my wife got covid and never had a fever not even once. You'll catch maybe 60% of potential infected, according to my pro medical friends and wow a few of them express serious doubt in the efficacy of the covid tests (not just that PCR debacle)

The CDC are useless idiots. Population Control agendas should begin and end in their offices. That alone, would save the world from so much pain, suffering and death

"Test for fever!". FAIL

"Wear masks!". ANOTHER FAIL

(didn't put much effort into hand washing as they did masks, despite hands being the number one way of spreading coronavirus). FAIL

Made Viruses more deadly "to study how to keep people from dying of viruses". ANOTHER FAIL

Lied about making deadlier viruses, then lied about who funded it. CRIMINAL FAIL

Called Trumps VERY EARLY Chinese travel ban "racist" and had Pelosi tour Chinatown for PR. EPIC FAIL

Immediately BLAMED Trump for not shutting down international travel when it was THEY who tried to impede travel bans....... FAILED

"SOCIAL DISTANCING".......... This one was even dumber than t-shirt masks. Honestly, if you believe in social distancing as a viable threat reduction method, you should totally social distance yourself from my Constitutional Republic because you're making all of us look like idiots to the rest of the world........ ALMOST THE BIGGEST FAIL

"WALMART, Costco, Amazon warehouse are ESSENTIAL and OK, however CHURCH and Small Business is NOT ESSENTIAL! and not OK"......... MORE FAIL.

please add to this list of CDC/WHO/NIH/HHS phukkery. The FDA useless idiot stuff deserves it's own thread dedicated to the abject failure of that institution to protect the American consumer

[Shep1970]

Hey chop, sorry it sounds like you've had a tough year- atleast you and your wife are still here (it could be worse)......
Its been so quiet around here lately- Dont you and fabio have motorcycles to get running? Or something to rebuild....c'mon we need something to get our minds off this covid crap.

shep

[Scootertrash]

Hey chop, sorry it sounds like you've had a tough year- atleast you and your wife are still here (it could be worse)......
Its been so quiet around here lately- Dont you and fabio have motorcycles to get running? Or something to rebuild....c'mon we need something to get our minds off this covid crap.

shep

I think we all keep working on our projects.

I just like to keep an eye on all the bullshit, the more we spread the truth the better, but it doesn't have to take over our lives.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer....;):naughty:

[Scootertrash]

Well, according to the COVID-19 response team all the unvaccinated are going to die IN A WINTER OF SEVERE ILLNESS AND DEATH!!!!


https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1472776500453728256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

:lol::naughty::lol:

In other developments TODAY:

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1472926002082889731

Right before this TOMORROW:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/18/politics/joe-biden-omicron-tuesday-speech/index.html


President Joe Biden will give an Omicron variant-focused speech on Tuesday as the nation contends with higher case numbers, deaths and hospitalizations from the coronavirus heading into the holidays.

How convenient :rolleyes:....I mean what a coincidence:rolleyes:....SHOCKING!!

[El Camexican]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10335289/Il-Divos-star-Carlos-Marin-jabbed-Janssen-vaccine-dying-Covid.html

Various versions going around, this is the latest I could find.

[ironchop]

I have been working on the old Fatboy here and there. I'm trying to go over it with a fine tooth comb and find everything it needs replaced because at some point when it's done, I'm going to get on this bike and not come home for 3-4 months.

I had rebuilt the entire topend, installed a new TwinTec programmable ignition, new oil pump. I'm trying to get the carb dialed in, but the bike has Samson Legend street pipes on it with no baffles and they suck trying to dial in the carb with open pipes. I'm looking at putting a thunderheader 2-1 on it. This Andrews EV27 has alot of lobe overlap compared to the stock unit, so I could use the increased torque in the bottom. I ended up rebuilding the front brake caliper and replaced rotor as well day before yesterday

[ironchop]

Maybe I'll ride it to visit Fabs and then go visit Scootertrash.

I'm a big fan of Scotty Kerekes (Scooter tramp Scotty) on YouTube so I can get schooled on what to do when you're riding to live, living to ride(lol) on the road

[ATC King]

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, the CDC is recomending against the J&J jab because of heart complications.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/16/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-new-data-blood-clots-/

https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2021/COCA-Call-4-27-2021-final.pdf

Maybe everyone at the CDC who rushed to approve it should be charged with negligent homicide?

[fabiodriven]

Maybe I'll ride it to visit Fabs and then go visit Scootertrash.

I'm a big fan of Scotty Kerekes (Scooter tramp Scotty) on YouTube so I can get schooled on what to do when you're riding to live, living to ride(lol) on the road

You should. I have guest quarters.

[fabiodriven]

Hey chop, sorry it sounds like you've had a tough year- atleast you and your wife are still here (it could be worse)......
Its been so quiet around here lately- Dont you and fabio have motorcycles to get running? Or something to rebuild....c'mon we need something to get our minds off this covid crap.

shep

Shep this stuff is going to destroy the planet. I'm actually going out to the garage right now to work on my SX, but if everyone just pretended this world isn't what it is, well, then you'd end up exactly where we are now because that's precisely how we got to this point.