What's so special about riding dunes?

[chris200x]

Even though I never rode them what's the big deal? Some hills the rest is flat and boring. I would think the type of riding up in these parts is better. Trails (lots of them) all kinds of obstacles and diffrent types of terrian And lots of hills. Any thoughts?

[chris200x]

When I see pics of some places it seems like there are always a ton of people. Is that because there is no where else to ride or it is just that popular. I bet the sand softens impact when wrecking. lol

I'm not trying to bash it or anything but I just don't understand.

Up here we have some silt pits. I guess thats from the coal companies washing coal years ago. And they seem to be the more popular riding areas.

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

most people that trail ride out our way want to ride the dunes, just like the people out west would like to ride the gncc's out here

[chris200x]

You are right shee. I would also like to try it someday. But I like the chalenge of trail riding. dune riding does not seem that challenging to me exept for a huge dune or two. Maybe I'd have a change of heart if I got to try it. I guess climbimg a silt bank is the same as a sand dune.

[smokinwrench]

When I goto little sahara or beaver dunes I spend most of my time on the trails. The dune parks have many many trails also. I think it just seems you always see pictures of the open dunes, because that is where people usually do all the jumping at. My self I agree the open dunes get boring very fast, but this is the terain I have to ride in so I enjoy every minute of it.

[chris200x]

See, I didn't even know there were "trails" it just seemed to me like a huge wide open space...kinda dull don't you think?

If anyone has some pics post them (sand trails) I cannot grasp this concept. Is it just tire tracks in the sand that you follow? :confused:

[smokinwrench]

We are going to Beaver Dunes tomarrow I'll post some pictures when I get home. You'll be amazed, this time of year there will be hills that 4x4 500 scramblers with paddles won't be able to climb ( we have spent hours getting bigger and bigger runs trying to climb them), by the end of the summer the hills will get worn down.

It is massive areas of overran brush that people have cut trails through.

[chris200x]

i'll be anxious to see them. Brush??? See, I've got desert pictured in my head. maybe the occasional tumbleweed. lol

[Dammit!]

I'm going for the first time in the morning so I'll let you know. I'm hoping I'll be able use my R's speed and power out there. The desert trails around here force me to ride slower than I'd like. I grew up riding trails in Ohio and have done just about every type of riding except dunes so it should be fun.

[Red Rider]

I would think the type of riding up in these parts is better. Trails (lots of them) all kinds of obstacles and diffrent types of terrian And lots of hills.
The beauty of riding the wide open dunes is that you make your own trails. You don't let a trail dictate where you go. If you ride the same trails over & over, eventually they will get boring & less challenging as you become familiar with them. On the dunes, you can zig-zag every which way you want to and make trails with infinite possibilities. Plus, the sand is soft & offers a smooth ride, when recently wind blown, & there are no rocks to ding your wheels on. It may not seem challenging, but believe me it is.

[1984kxtTECATE]

Dunes are just as challenging as trails the oregon dunes have trails in them. Pics.
This is what all of winchester bay looks, just hills all over
http://home.comcast.net/~xislandzstylezx/hill.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~xislandzstylezx/jadejump.JPG
Sand lake duners, poker run
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/wagonwheel/Picture045.jpg
Florence
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/AgentOrange51/brian.jpg
Trails through the trees
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Bjerke/100_1105.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Bjerke/100_1098.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/chadnmel/spring%20clean%20up/DSC02098.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/chadnmel/spring%20clean%20up/DSC02095.jpg
Tight trails
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/tinydapimp/SL%203-11-05/Mitch-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/tinydapimp/SL%203-11-05/Josh-1.jpg
I have a lot more if you want to see them.

[chris200x]

Ok, 84 that does look fun. Ok I'll admit it really FUN!!! Keep those pics coming boys I need more convincing. :D

[1984kxtTECATE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/Bjerke/100_1143.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/argentinafan89/Picture008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/argentinafan89/Picture011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/DuneJunkie/Hauser%2012%20Mar%202005/Jayhillclimbing.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/DuneJunkie/Hauser%2012%20Mar%202005/HauserScenery.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/DuneJunkie/Hauser%2012%20Mar%202005/ErinonthehilltopHauser.jpg

[1984kxtTECATE]

I couldnt put all these in one post,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/wagonwheel/avatarpic.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/bigford84/monday016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/bigford84/monday019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0257.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0253.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0251.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0248.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0246.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Bansheegy/PICT0217.jpg
I still have more lol.

[chris200x]

Awesome pics...I love it. Is it absolutly necessary to run paddles in the sand? Regular knobbies seem to work just fine in the deep silt around here.

I think those guys are lost in those pics....Shouldn't they be on the golf coarse!!! :D

[1984kxtTECATE]

lol, this is a local forum/group i ride with, you dont have to run paddles, but if you want to climb steep hills then you are going to want too. Paddles make a world of difference.

[chris200x]

Well it sure is a beautiful place. Is it large? Do you have to pay? Thats something else I was wondering...how much to ride a place like that or the ones in Ca.

Keep those pics coming guys I can't get enough!!! :w00t:

[jenndnn3]

The cost is 10.50 permit. 10 to park your truck one time fee. And 15 for a flag. Then add gas.

Dunes, what is so great. Well technical is there, you avoid steep dropoffs ie razorbacks. Some crazy folks do this at high speed. The hills are not little. My daughter will not go down some, heck I have a hard time as well. Try getting out of soft sand. The only thing that barely makes that is a nicely built machine. These are called 2 stroke holes, I believe. You can line up and go full out to see whom is the fastest, on flat, or hill. Your machine stays clean. Yes the sand is very forgiving. The roosts or rooster tails are extremely large. There are trails, they just have sand in em.

[ATC crazy]

Your machine stays clean. Yes the sand is very forgiving.

Its not too forgiving on your bearings or brake pads though... :eek:

[vartiak15]

what state are the sand lake dunes in? are there any near IL besides the badlands? and does the badlands have stuff like in these pics?

[jenndnn3]

Its not too forgiving on your bearings or brake pads though... :eek:


If your not useing your brakes, your not riding hard enough. :p ;)

[4cylinders]

hey, glamis is a little different, more open, a little choppier, looser sand. you really need paddles to appreciate it, get up the hills a lot easier. when you're in an ocean, you need a boat with paddles.

[TimSr]

and does the badlands have stuff like in these pics?

Use the thread in my signature for Badlands pictures.

[1984kxtTECATE]

what state are the sand lake dunes in? are there any near IL besides the badlands? and does the badlands have stuff like in these pics?

Sand lake is Oregon, it is tiny compared to Florence, Winchester bay, Coos bay, and others, it is just close to home.

[chris200x]

I would of never guessed there was dunes in Indiana? Looks like a fun place. Is it very big?

84Tecate do you have any pics of those other places?

[1984kxtTECATE]

They are in the pics I posted, I just didnt label them.

[Red Rider]

Here's a satellite pic of Dumont Dunes that I took back when I was a Maytag satellite repairman. :rolleyes:

The second pic is another one that I took while flying over the Great Sand Dunes National Park. They're located on the west side of the Sangre De Cristo mountain range, about 25 miles north of Alamosa, Colorado. http://sangres.com/sanddunes.htm

[BLAZERONE22]

Awesome pics...I love it. Is it absolutly necessary to run paddles in the sand? Regular knobbies seem to work just fine in the deep silt around here.

I think those guys are lost in those pics....Shouldn't they be on the golf coarse!!! :D


I ride both the dunes and trails, I don't care where I ride as long as I'm riding, You can get around pretty good on knobbies, most of the time.

http://images.snapfish.com/3435797923232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2324%3D589%3D656%3DXRO QDF%3E232356752%3B6%3A6ot1lsi

Trolls bike...Stuck in the sand....

[mymint87]

Even though I never rode them what's the big deal? Some hills the rest is flat and boring. I would think the type of riding up in these parts is better. Trails (lots of them) all kinds of obstacles and diffrent types of terrian And lots of hills. Any thoughts?

riding the dunes is like being on GODs rollercoaster...which is far better than any thing man made..

theirs nothing like shooting up a big dune towards what looks like the edge of the world only to turn and ride along the razor when you reach the top.. fast forward momentum speed must be maintained...reactions must be made quickly and decisively...then and only then can you determine whats on the other side and make your choice what direction to ride next...sometimes when you reach the razor you realize its a straght drop to the bottom on the otherside......you never know til your on the edge..whew.....total undescribable adrenaline rush....

as far as the ride...sand is smoooooooth....nothing bone jarring about it unless of course its damp, then it beats you to death....like trail riding

as far as a comparison between hardpack dirt and sand..you cant compare them... two totally different worlds...each with different skills needed

and something can be said about sand...different densities and moisture make the difference between junk and the real McCoy......

there is nothing that tops riding on pure perfect sand...smoooth, fast, and adrenaline dumping scary hanging off into space razorbacks...

when a fresh wind blows and the drifts become soft, it's very easy to go over the front on a trike...I've done it a few times and had the 350x come right on top of me only to bounce up with minor or no injuries...yes my fellow triker, sand also has the potential of being kind in accidents...

[Dammit!]

Just got home. Sand dunes rule. More later. :D

[smokinwrench]

Here is a link to pictures I took at Beaver Dunes in Beaver Ok today. Picutres just don't do justice to the steepness of the hills. This place barely has enough room for dragsters like chainsaws to run and get shutdown. It is a great place to ride because it never has very many people.

http://www.midwesttrikers.com/forum/read.php?TID=964

[mymint87]

Just got home. Sand dunes rule. More later. :D

Your Killing Me!!!....I'm dying to hear how you liked it.....

[Dammit!]

Your Killing Me!!!....I'm dying to hear how you liked it.....

I liked it quite a bit. (http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=33845) :D

[TrikeKid]

The only problem I have with riding in sand is that it gets into everything, bearings, chain, engine. It isnt worth it to me to have to tear my bike apart after a ride. I'll stick to riding Great North Wet style trails.

[Dammit!]

If you think sand does more damage than mud, you're nuts. For the most part sand just falls off of whatever it hits. Mud clings and because it's wet it penetrates far more than sand could.

[Mr. Sandman]

Even though I never rode them what's the big deal? Some hills the rest is flat and boring. I would think the type of riding up in these parts is better. Trails (lots of them) all kinds of obstacles and diffrent types of terrian And lots of hills. Any thoughts?

Until you've been at the base of a 500 foot tall sand dune looking straight up at a 45 degree angle and you drop the clutch and pin it, WOT, throwing sand everywhere and your bike is using every drop of horsepower it has to get up to speed to make it to the top and then you turn around and head back down WOT, you won't understand.

Mymint87 pretty much summed it up with his roller coaster comparison, but I'll add to it. If you snow ski, it's like fresh powder. If you water ski, it's like when the lake is glass. If you ride sand dunes, there's nothing like smooth and trackless virgin sand.

[AZ250R]

One more anomaly that I can only find out in the SAND...
Where else can ya go up a 300ft + hill, then down the next & so on (rollercoasterish like MyMint said) "WOT in 4th gear" for AS LONG AS YOU CAN HOLD ON!!! :naughty:
Its A SAND THING! :beer

[Dammit!]

My arms feel like they're gonna fall off right now. It's a blast but it definitely works you out.

Flying up a dune WOT in 4th is unreal. Especially when there's a bunch of fairly deep whoops at the bottom that you have to tackle without losing speed. It's intense. Next time I'll take the camera back where we were racing up the hill. The one I have pics and vids of is a small one. I wish I had a helmet cam though. Just surfing the various dunes going from one valley to another with all the extreme height changes... It's just unlike anything I've ever seen.

[TrikeKid]

If you think sand does more damage than mud, you're nuts. For the most part sand just falls off of whatever it hits. Mud clings and because it's wet it penetrates far more than sand could.
I ride almost no mud and one of my riding buddies had to replace the wheel bearings in his CR after riding Sand Lake, He'd ridden about for about a year before that without a problem and has ridden for nearly as long after and hasnt had to touch it. My bearings are older than his and ive ridden more than he has and my bearings are as good as when the bike was new. My advice is to get a beater bike that you dont have to worry about to ride sand with. Mud doesnt work into stuff the way sand does unless your muddin non stop.

[Dammit!]

That must be why all these southwest trikes are so ragged out and why so many mint trikes can be found back east and not out here. It all makes sense now.

[jenndnn3]

I have a 250r and a kxt 250. One was clearly ridden in mudd the other, clearly sand. Would you care to see what damages what??

[mymint87]

I ride almost no mud and one of my riding buddies had to replace the wheel bearings in his CR after riding Sand Lake, He'd ridden about for about a year before that without a problem and has ridden for nearly as long after and hasnt had to touch it. My bearings are older than his and ive ridden more than he has and my bearings are as good as when the bike was new. My advice is to get a beater bike that you dont have to worry about to ride sand with. Mud doesnt work into stuff the way sand does unless your muddin non stop.

nothing personal, but i dont think thats good advice..i say get a cherry, chromed out, custom painted, 500r to ride in the sand with..... :w00t:


the only thing i have to do is repaint my frame every so often right near my footpegs, it tends to get sandblasted from the sand coming off my front tire as it carves thru the DUNES... :D :D :D :D :D

[Dammit!]

I have a 250r and a kxt 250. One was clearly ridden in mudd the other, clearly sand. Would you care to see what damages what??

Should be interesting. Post away.

[TrikeKid]

I'm basing what I say on my experience, I rode a harescramble in basicly non stop gooey disgusting mud and when I pulled my back end apart there was nothing in the bearings. I'm sure that if you dont wash your bikes and let stuff go that it may be diffrent but I dont know.

[Mr. Sandman]

I ride almost no mud and one of my riding buddies had to replace the wheel bearings in his CR after riding Sand Lake, He'd ridden about for about a year before that without a problem and has ridden for nearly as long after and hasnt had to touch it. My bearings are older than his and ive ridden more than he has and my bearings are as good as when the bike was new. My advice is to get a beater bike that you dont have to worry about to ride sand with. Mud doesnt work into stuff the way sand does unless your muddin non stop.

Granted I don't know anything about Sand Lake (it sounds wet), but I've ridden my 250R in sand for the majority of the 20+ years I've owned it and have never had to replace a bearing because of sand getting into it. I have replaced my swing arm bearings due to them freezing up with rust that was caused by mud and water from riding in the wet, muddy stuff when I didn't really care about keeping my bike clean and pristine.

As for getting a beater bike to ride in the sand, they're hard to come by out west here unless they're imported from the east. :rolleyes:

[TrikeKid]

Yeah sandlake has a few wet areas being along the beach where the majority of the racing goes on. Another guy we used to ride with has a Z400 that has only been ridden there for a year or 2 and has never been taken apart, I hope he doesnt treat the YFZ that he just droped $10,500 on the same way.

[AZ250R]

My trike has been almost solely duned for the last 5 years, no bearing wear noticable as of yet (all joints TIGHT).

Now one last thing for you who haven't, yet want ride the dunes... its possibly like sell'n your sole... cause its all I'd like to ride ever since that first trip. Everything else is just mess'n around to me now. :cool:

[Dammit!]

Now one last thing for you who haven't, yet want ride the dunes... its possibly like sell'n your sole... cause its all I'd like to ride ever since that first trip. Everything else is just mess'n around to me now. :cool:

I second that. I didn't care much for riding my R on the slow desert trails around here to begin with but now I think I'd hate it even more. I think a 200x or 350x would be fun on those slower trails but the R... it feels like a Corvette on a go-kart track.

[Pigga]

if you want to go fast or climb hills you have to have them i live in Utah and i allways go down to sand mountain, you have to have a really power full machine and paddles to even make it to the top its about a 1/2 mile climb and it gets steeper the higher you go my buddys raptor barley pulls it in 2nd when he gets to the top

[Darius1502]

I love dune riding because my trikes stay clean!!

[AZ250R]

Check this site out for the "sand thing"
http://www.sandbros.com/
Well their images anyway, no real new ones but you'll get the point.
Best Dune Pics "Free site yet"!

[chris200x]

Ok, now I'm starting to get a little jealous. I would think the closest sand to me would be someplace along the jersey shore...How far you think I'd make it on the atlantic city beach on my trike?

[Dammit!]

Seems like it would be pretty flat which would probably defeat the purpose. The huge hills are what made it fun for me.

[Merriman]

Here is a picture of the ISDRA (I am standing right above test hill at Gordons Well looking north towards Glamis (glamis is 19 miles of sand dunes away) in Socal) This is why I ride the dunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a ton of sand dunes pictures if you want me to post more. (Unfortunately most are quads :o )


http://www.yfzcentral.com/merriman/cgi-bin/2.jpg

My 250R and my friends Z400

http://www.yfzcentral.com/merriman/cgi-bin/DSC00064.JPG


Me and My YFZ

http://www.yfzcentral.com/merriman/cgi-bin/Levi%20Jump%2031.jpg

[1984kxtTECATE]

I love our 300 ft hill climbs at winchester bay, it is quite an experince, there is nothing like riding on dunes, awesome pics.

[Dammit!]

Merriman: got any pics of the big hill at pattons valley?

[smokinwrench]

Looking at those pictures makes me realize how small little sahara really is

[chris200x]

Merriman...PLEASE post your pics.

[3 weelin geezer]

Why do you use those little fags on your trike? How can someone see it to warn them that you are riding under it if it is almost even with your head while riding? why not watch out for helmets instead?

[1984kxtTECATE]

Flags are required by law.

[smokinwrench]

The flags work very well. A lot of times it is the only thing you'll be able to see when someone is around a corner or over a hill.

[mymint87]

or behind a bush :rolleyes:

[AZ250R]

Merriman: got any pics of the big hill at pattons valley?
This is ontop of the main PV hill.

[mymint87]

cool pic ...THE "R" LOOKS SIC!

the sand looks damp....you've had to have taken the picture this season....(it was a wet one).....WHEW!

It would be a RAD picture if you pulled the flunks and the quads out of the background......LOL j/k :beer

[AZ250R]

It would be a RAD picture if you pulled the flunks and the quads out of the background......LOL j/k :beer
Yah, them Foos are just OGELING my trike... Mind Rape I say, but they'd never get anywhere if it weren't for following me! :p

[Rex Karz]

Hey Guys, I went to Dumont with NOS 350X last weekend. Pics and posts at 3wheeler.org and at www.rexkarz.com/ridepix

[chris200x]

Wow, I forgot about this thread. I wanna see more pics guys!

[1984kxtTECATE]

I will post more up this week.

[Troll 2]

Wow, I forgot about this thread. I wanna see more pics guys!

I just found this pic from last years trike get together at the Oregon dunes.

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10251

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[chris200x]

Hey, How well did you get around with those knobbies?

[Troll 2]

Hey, How well did you get around with those knobbies?

They're spider-trac's and did really well. The sand was good that week-end. Too much fun. Here's a link for a pic of the trike and tires. http://www.bmi.net/magoos/revived1.jpg
Will be trying out tamers on the air R at the same place in june......... :D

[BLAZERONE22]

Here's a link to Kaseys little page he put together... http://hometown.aol.com/klm91/page1.html

[mywifeknowseverything]

Here is some pictures of our last Trip to Pismo CA....

There were .ORG members as well as 3ww members

From the pictures that I have seen of the Dumont and Glamis area these dunes pale in comparison..I have also rode the Oregon dunes and I have to say that they are Better also...I Love Pismo just because Ive been going for 30 yrs now and love to camp on the Beach... :Bounce :w00t:

Me.....
http://rexkarz.com/ridepix/Pismo05_MWKE.jpg

NOS_350X...
http://rexkarz.com/ridepix/Pismo05_NOS_3sR.jpg

Camp ...
http://images.snapfish.com/342%3A379923232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E232376542%3B749ot1lsi

[mywifeknowseverything]

My 3yr old and my 9 yr old sons.... :naughty:
http://images.snapfish.com/342%3A379923232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3239%3E%3A%3B3%3E873% 3EWSNRCG%3D3232856338353nu0mrj

NOS eating a Wheelie :D
http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=125893

AND the MONEY SHOT!!!! :beer
http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=125892

[mymint87]

and of course there's nothing like jumping off a pristine razorback in your socks

[mywifeknowseverything]

You wont be able to figure out that until you actually ride in it ;)

Hey Mymint....Any word on the July Pismo thing....I need to get my name on the Board at work before its too late... :naughty:

[Enigma]

Here is a pic of me on the T3 for news years at Buttercup.

[Yardbird]

I've posted these before but here's a few boring dune pics. :Bounce

http://forums.atvconnection.com/i/GalleryImages/33614/freedom.jpg
http://forums.atvconnection.com/i/GalleryImages/33614/meagain.jpg
http://forums.atvconnection.com/i/GalleryImages/33614/sideways.jpg

[Dammit!]

Which dunes are those?

[Yardbird]

Glamis :D

[NOS_350X]

I may have ate that one but I am probably one of the better wheelie riders there is.

[mymint87]

I dig those pics of Yardbird at Glamis.....why did you show them now while desert season is so far away??....

THANKS ALOT, Now i have to walk around for 4 months in a constant state of tunnelvision :cry:

[Yardbird]

Hey man that's what friends are for hehe! :naughty: At least you got to ride this past season. Around December I had to look out the window of my house and see SNOW and PRETEND it was SAND!!!

[jenndnn3]

Nos I think Craig has a nose for wrecks! He always manages to get em on camara. Love the picts! I really want to get out now.

[chris200x]

I dig those pics of Yardbird at Glamis.....why did you show them now while desert season is so far away??....

THANKS ALOT, Now i have to walk around for 4 months in a constant state of tunnelvision :cry:

Not to sound stupid but what do you mean by riding season? Aren't those dunes open year round? Too hot or something during summer?

[AZ250R]

Not to sound stupid but what do you mean by riding season? Aren't those dunes open year round? Too hot or something during summer?
It's around 90 @ those dunes right now, with the possiblity of going over 100 any day. Once it does that, it will stay around 100 for a few months. :mad: So yep'r its like "pure HELL", great place to ride but too uncomfortable for me. You could go for night rides if ya had a good air conditioned trailer to sleep in all day. ;)

I went once last season around now & it was 95 out, my 85R didn't like it. Puked up half a tank of coolent on a 1/2 hour ride, lacking real top end power the whole time too. The surface temps on the sand must get well over 120, ya can't even keep bare skin on it for more than a few seconds. :rolleyes:

It's wide open for buisness though, feel free to go "melt your cares away". :beer

[mymint87]

It's wide open for buisness though, feel free to go "melt your cares away". :beer


ROFLMAO......I AGREE :D :D :D :D

the only thing I might be able to add to that is "the season" starts in Fall and goes to Late Spring...... :welcome:

[chris200x]

so when the dunes are closed what do you guys do? Isn't there trails and other places to tear up? I would guess that it could well be over 100. But not all of Ca. and Az.?

[NOS_350X]

Well i'm in a perfect spot of cali, 2 hours from pismo (nice and cool in the summer) 4 hours from Dumont (way too hot in the summer) 5or 6 from Glamis, (never traveled down there) an hour from the mountains (gota get some trairiding in) and 2 hours from the Desert. Where i live there is no off season, we ride year around.

[mywifeknowseverything]

Well There IS PISMO!!!! Never really Gets over 80 whenever Ive gone....But looking at the Glamis Pics....Pismo Just doesnt Compare :)

[AZ250R]

so when the dunes are closed what do you guys do? Isn't there trails and other places to tear up? I would guess that it could well be over 100. But not all of Ca. and Az.?
All the other dunes north of the Imperial Sand Dunes will still be going strong. Like Pismo, the beach is still cool. There are some in Utah, Idaho, & Oregon that don't get so hot temp wise too.

As for me, I'll be head'n to the "moon rover training grounds" of Cinders Offroad Vehicle area.

[chris200x]

Hey AZ250R, that place in the picture looks awesome! what is that a volcano??? Looks like an awesome hillclimb whatever it is.

[Yardbird]

Hey AZ250R, that place in the picture looks awesome! what is that a volcano??? Looks like an awesome hillclimb whatever it is.

That's the Cinders I believe. That is an awesome shot AZ250R......NICE!!! :w00t:
Is that near Flagstaff? The only other place I would rather go other than the Cinders is St. Anthony's in Idaho......someday hopefully!!! :D

[chris200x]

Got anymore pics of that place? I don't know that Cinders place looks like it would be alot better than the dunes.

[Mr. Sandman]

Red Rider & I usually go to Dumont (which is practically in Death Valley) in the middle of July for a couple of days. Summer is the best time to hit the dunes. No crowds & fast virgin sand. It is HOT, but you can hang out, eat, sleep & drink inside the air conditioned trailer during the day and ride in the early morning, evening and nightime hours. Two months and counting and I can't wait!

[Rex Karz]

Dumont-My favorite place to ride. Flat out. Sometimes the sand is hard to read at certain hours of the day because it is so smooth. Anyone ever try to night ride that place? That sounds hairy, not like Pismo. Pismo dunes don't have razorbacks, so You can go WFO there at night. The great thing about that is trying to go to sleep after a night ride, you close your eyes and it's like you're on a sand roller coaster all over again.
http://www.rexkarz.com/ridepix/desert-.jpg

[chris200x]

These razorbacks that your talking about? Is that the blind side of the dune that drops striaght off? what creates this phenomenon? Wind perhaps.

[Mr. Sandman]

Exactly! See the attached pic, razorbacks/knife edges galore.

[85 250sx]

lol that little shed looks tiny. So how long do does it take a razor back to form like could you ride a huge hill one day come back next week and the wind turned it into a razorback or vise versa? I bet people get hurt all the time flying up some hill and not checking whats on the other side first.

[Mr. Sandman]

lol that little shed looks tiny. So how long do does it take a razor back to form like could you ride a huge hill one day come back next week and the wind turned it into a razorback or vise versa? I bet people get hurt all the time flying up some hill and not checking whats on the other side first.
Fortunately, things don't change drastically, that quickly. I've been riding there for over 25 years and the dunes are pretty much the same now as they were back then. What changes are the shadows as the sun moves across the sky. Sometimes you'll hit a knife edge or razorback because you don't even see it. They tend to blend in and look like one smooth dune, and then all of a sudden it's, OH S..T, hang on!

People do get hurt all the time and a few are killed every year, but it's usually from a collision with another vehicle, or from mixing alcohol and gasoline, not from riding off a razorback. As with any type of riding you must use good judgement and not get in over your head. :beer

[Kintore]

Exactly! See the attached pic, razorbacks/knife edges galore.


I am so jealous! Anything even close to that around here is a little 50x75 foot little sand place. lol And its manmade! I think I would really like to take the Z out there. Looks awesome, and the cinders place. Looks very dusty?

[AZ250R]

Looks awesome, and the cinders place. Looks very dusty?
The Cinders, which is 15 or so miles north of Flagstaff AZ, is dusty. I'll wear a mask like this (its a dormant volcanic area, this pic is look'n right down one of them):

Heres another good link to see more photos of the Cinders & the other dunes we've been talking about:
http://www.dunereview.com/cinders.htm
http://www.dunereview.com/

[NOS_350X]

Rex, I think we will have to join redrider and Mr Sandman on one of there trips.

[250r'en +TCB]

:TrikesOwn I live in NH so I have never riden dunes. But dear god does it look like a blast! I own a 250r atc so its kinda my dream! Hwen you see those guys powering up hills full throttle, you just get plain envious!!

[Red Rider]

NOS & Rex, lets do it! Mr. Sandman & I will have to let you guys know when we are going next time, or vice versa. We get tired of seeing only quads out there, so it would be a blast to meet some forum members out at the dunes for a day or two of riding. I'm sure that Mr. Sandman feels the same way.

[chris200x]

The Cinders, which is 15 or so miles north of Flagstaff AZ, is dusty. I'll wear a mask like this (its a dormant volcanic area, this pic is look'n right down one of them):

Heres another good link to see more photos of the Cinders & the other dunes we've been talking about:
http://www.dunereview.com/cinders.htm
http://www.dunereview.com/


Thank you for those links... They're awesome :Bounce

[Pigga]

THE SAND DUNES (http://www.alticity.com/alticity.aspx?custom=2)

[chris200x]

THE SAND DUNES (http://www.alticity.com/alticity.aspx?custom=2)


Well, after taking half a day to download that I'm still not impressed. ;) :D

[NOS_350X]

Well then take half a day and fly out here to cali. We can go to dumot, but that little 200x isnt going to cut it, you have to get somthin bigger than that.

[chris200x]

Careful, I may just take you up on that offer. lol I think my next little getaway will be trikefest next year. But I would love to take a trip out west. Oh and by the way I said I wasn't impressed in that last post hoping maybe one of you duner dudes would post some more pics. :w00t: I really love those pics but what's with all the golfcarts??? don't any of you ride trikes out there anymore? :D

[1984kxtTECATE]

Careful, I may just take you up on that offer. lol I think my next little getaway will be trikefest next year. But I would love to take a trip out west. Oh and by the way I said I wasn't impressed in that last post hoping maybe one of you duner dudes would post some more pics. :w00t: I really love those pics but what's with all the golfcarts??? don't any of you ride trikes out there anymore? :D

When your dad is poor and you dont go to the dunes much it is kinda hard to take pics, so I take them from my group website just to give you an idea. Wait till net monday after the florence ride and check for pics.

[chris200x]

LMAO... Don't feel bad dude I'm Poor too. Be sure to post them up! I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Hey! Dont any of you duners wonder what we ride over here in redneck country? Hmmmm... Maybe I'll have to go riding, take some pics and start a new thread. :rolleyes: :D Terrian around here actually takes some skill to get around :Bounce And yes it hurts when you fall :rolleyes: LMAO :w00t:

[mywifeknowseverything]

Pics....Ill post ya some when I get back from the DUNES and the .org Ride next week.... ;)

[chris200x]

where are you guys going?

[mywifeknowseverything]

Florence Oregon.....
http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B752323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E2323642435556ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B752323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E232364242%3A7%3B5ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B752323232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E2323642435584ot1lsi
http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B752323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E232364242%3A787ot1lsi

Here is KASEY on his Yamaha
http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B752323232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3A%3D%3B%3A4%3D9 64%3DXROQDF%3E2323642435572ot1lsi

Nothing Real Action wise but Ill get some next week.... :beer

[chris200x]

Looks like a ton of fun. Finally some pics with trikes. Have fun, Be safe, and take lots of pics. I'll look forward to your posts

[NOS_350X]

LMAO... Don't feel bad dude I'm Poor too. Be sure to post them up! I'll keep my eyes peeled.
:


I think thats why alot of us ride trikes, because where poor. At least thats why i do. If Ya ever head out west drop me a line, we can setup a ride and there are plunty of loner bikes around.

[chris200x]

Will do! :Bounce :w00t:

[New2ATC]

Would a dirtbike survive out in them dunes? My fam and I might move down to AZ within the next year or so, and Im briing my 80.. looks like alot of fun.. the riding here is okay, and has some small pits..

[Dammit!]

I haven't ridden a dirtbike in the sand but people do it all the time. Not sure an 80 would have enough power to get up the bigger ones though. You WILL need a paddle tire on it.

[New2ATC]

okay.. just making sure i would survive lol.. I plan on gettong another trike or quad if i can find a good deal on one, for winters here and such.. but having no job its like ugh...

[NOS_350X]

If you like jumping bikes sand is your best friend. I enjoyed riding my 125 just as much as i enjoy riding my x in the dunes.

[1984kxtTECATE]

Would a dirtbike survive out in them dunes? My fam and I might move down to AZ within the next year or so, and Im briing my 80.. looks like alot of fun.. the riding here is okay, and has some small pits..

A 250 is a more desiarable dune bike. The probelm with 2-stroke bikes in the sand is they get less traction thus making the motor constatly turn higher RPM'S there for dirt bike motors die quicker on the dunes. I would not reccomend takin your 80 out there.

[New2ATC]

yeah in the smll pits here its like first second and third in powerband constantly just to get speed for the hills

[MTS]

A 250 is a more desiarable dune bike. The probelm with 2-stroke bikes in the sand is they get less traction thus making the motor constatly turn higher RPM'S there for dirt bike motors die quicker on the dunes. I would not reccomend takin your 80 out there.
500 is a dune bike, we dig hole's with my buddys ...lol

[chris200x]

A 250 is a more desiarable dune bike. The probelm with 2-stroke bikes in the sand is they get less traction thus making the motor constatly turn higher RPM'S there for dirt bike motors die quicker on the dunes. I would not reccomend takin your 80 out there.


Would that not hold true for any 2 stroke trike or quad then?

[mywifeknowseverything]

Trikes and Quads do just fine in the sand.....Bigger and Wider tires verses the Narrow Tall Dirt Bike Tires...Gotta stay on the Gas on a Bike to get around but it isnt too much trouble...

[chris200x]

DOY!!! Never thought of that. I guess tha's what they mean "high flotation tire". Yep in that video someone posted it didn't seem like those guys on the bikes where having much trouble at all. God, that has to be some rush!

[1984kxtTECATE]

Take a dirt bike on a trail in the sand, you will never want to do it agian.

[mywifeknowseverything]

Slap a set of these one and you should have no Problem :welcome:
http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/machines/strange8/5.jpg

[chris200x]

What the??? Are they skis? That hilarious. Maybe I should put some on my son's dirtbike.

[NOS_350X]

It all depends on how good of a rider he is. If hes good enough he can get around he will have fun. One thing with the bike, you let off the gas and its like hitting the brake, you stop fast. It takse some gitting used to but its defently worth it. The 450 would defently be the most desiered dune bike.

[Red Rider]

Here's a decent video of dune riding, from a "helmet cam" perspective. I previewed it and gave it my "unofficial", 3wheelerworld stamp of approval. After all, the person doing the filming is riding an 86-87 Tecate 3, while chasing an 85-86 ATC250R. :w00t:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-25YDG2XY&mode=related&search=

[chris200x]

Holey old threads batman. :eek: :eek: Thanks foe bringin this one back to life!

Cool vid... :beer but what happened to some of the great pics on here?

[The Goat]

this thread is old, but it certainly needs to be checked out. freaking sweet pics

[chris200x]

this thread is old, but it certainly needs to be checked out. freaking sweet pics

:naughty: :welcome: :w00t:

[sandman829]

Going to boys run this weekend. I'll try to get some pics. 3 day all guys and sand.:crazy: :naughty: :twisted:

[JohnR.]

Great pics and vids. A bunch of us went out to Silver Lake Dunes in Michigan a few times. It's been like 5 years since we've been out there but we're hoping to go again this fall. Its small compared to the places out west but its a lot of fun.

John