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LonesomeTriZ
07-31-2005, 08:13 PM
I found this when A guy I met recently told me had had a 250R he wouls like to sell. I found it under a tarp in his shop. Apperently it belonged to Daon Garletts. There is a marking that looks as though it was done at the facory that read one of two with the model number.

TravEX
07-31-2005, 09:03 PM
looks pretty cool,,,does the lid come off the storage space? is it still running, looks to be. is it for sale too?

LonesomeTriZ
07-31-2005, 09:05 PM
The back opens up for storage. The owner knows the history and does not really want to come off it, but I am trying. ;)

hrc85250r
07-31-2005, 10:05 PM
what the hell is it called?

LonesomeTriZ
07-31-2005, 10:11 PM
It says TRX 200 on the side. But that is nothing like the TRX 200 I once had.

Cody
07-31-2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah, maybe an import?

Howdy
08-01-2005, 12:13 PM
For a couple years Honda made this style TRX200. They didn't sell quite as good as Honda had hoped. They are sorta ugly at first, but they grow on ya.
I have owned one like this one. It was a good runner until some idiot tried to bypass the starter switch.
Howdy

wheelie king
08-01-2005, 02:15 PM
Never seen one of those in person. That is rare. Where at in FL, Louis?

Leeme know if you do not buy it :p :p

nouseforaname90
08-01-2005, 02:21 PM
Sorry.. I'm kinda stupid.. who is Daon Garletts?

LonesomeTriZ
08-01-2005, 02:25 PM
There is more to the trike that the trunk. Big Daddy don has a unique machine for all of his straight liners. This one had a unique pulling device to move them around. I will try and get some better photographs the next time I am over there.

Don Garletts is drag racing legend from Florida. He has is own misium in Ocala. You can also see some neat ATV's up there that he used in the pits.

Lomax
08-01-2005, 06:07 PM
You see those alot around here, nicknamed the "trunk moblie". Its the same basic top-end as an 86-87 200X just de-tuned. The potenial is there to make the thing scoot around good and there tough as nails.

LonesomeTriZ
08-01-2005, 07:28 PM
This one here has some special stuff that you will not find on a standard issue trunk modile. I tried getting some more photographs today, but my buddy left the keys to his shop at work.

jostephy8
08-05-2005, 09:53 AM
That model is called the TYPE II. We had about 8 of them in an orange grove I worked at in Florida. I am pretty sure that they didn't make them very long as stated before.

LonesomeTriZ
08-05-2005, 12:05 PM
That model is called the TYPE II. We had about 8 of them in an orange grove I worked at in Florida. I am pretty sure that they didn't make them very long as stated before.


Where in Florida did you work?

corndawg
08-05-2005, 04:40 PM
That model is called the TYPE II. We had about 8 of them in an orange grove I worked at in Florida. I am pretty sure that they didn't make them very long as stated before.
my mom has a '98 type II and it dosnt have the trunk.... the rear plastic underneath the rack looks like its removable for one tho :wondering

BLAZERONE22
08-05-2005, 06:03 PM
My daughters is a 95 200type II, Just add gas and it goes. We upgraded it with a bigger carb.

http://images.snapfish.com/34464%3A%3B523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2324%3D589%3D656%3 DXROQDF%3E2323782%3B54%3A83ot1lsi

jostephy8
08-26-2005, 09:32 AM
Where in Florida did you work?
I worked in Hobe Sound FL. Just N of West Palm on the E coast.

LonesomeTriZ
08-26-2005, 10:22 AM
Hey, I know exactly where that is. it was nice at one time. now the over develpment is getting pretty bad.

LonesomeTriZ
09-06-2005, 09:12 PM
Sorry it look me a whhile to get more photographs. I tried to get a shot of the tag that reads two of two ever made.

LonesomeTriZ
09-06-2005, 09:19 PM
Check out the molded plastic on the handle bars.

smackkk
11-25-2005, 02:21 AM
man there are 3 of those down the road from my house.....and older couple own them and they are like new...

LonesomeTriZ
11-25-2005, 02:23 AM
See if you can grab them up.

hrc85250r
11-25-2005, 11:28 PM
i dont belive you until you have pics....i mean, seriously..lonesome said there is a tag that says 1 of 2 ever made.

LonesomeTriZ
11-25-2005, 11:32 PM
There my be others that are similar. But I know for a fact this particular combination of options (what ever they might be) have only been made twice.

MTS
11-26-2005, 12:35 AM
There my be others that are similar. But I know for a fact this particular combination of options (what ever they might be) have only been made twice.
And what would be that perticular combination of options?

69HemiGTX
11-26-2005, 05:26 AM
Sorry.. I'm kinda stupid.. who is Daon Garletts?

Actually, it's Don Garlits, and like Lonesome said, he is a drag racing legend. He was the first driver to have a rear-engined dragster built after he nearly severed his foot when a driveshaft let go in his old slingshot dragster. He is known as "Big Daddy," and his cars were always named Swamp Rat (1 through 34) and the majority were Mopar powered. Big Daddy doesn't play with little boys' toys, so only Mopar will do. He holds numerous records, and he was also the first driver to experience a blow-over in 1987. Here is a link to his drag racing museum in Ocala. There is a lot of really cool stuff here:

http://www.garlits.com/ :w00t:

LonesomeTriZ
11-26-2005, 10:02 AM
And what would be that perticular combination of options?


Notice I said "what ever they might be". I have no idea what the option combination is. All I know is there is a tag that clearly states how many were made and it is clearly a Honda tag. Special ordering an ATV is a lot like ordering a car. Mopar nuts will back me on this. Think about this, is some ordered a Hemi Cuda convertible with a four speed they would have a cool car, but not all that unique. That one car may be 1 of 50. Now, if that person ordered a Hemi four speed with a bench seat stripe package and some other options then the unique rarity changes and it becomes a 1 of 1 car. Say Chrysler back then thinks, hey that is a nice combination and decides to build a few more to see how they do. That 1 of 1 car has now become 1 of 10 or 15. The point is the vehicle is self is not necessarily what makes up the rare factor, but rather the condition and what the vehicle has.

blue27
12-05-2005, 10:23 AM
Honda did make these and I sold them back when I worked at the dealership, we called them the "turtle", they did not sell well. There was a version with a rack and this one with the trunk.

LonesomeTriZ
12-05-2005, 10:28 AM
If there any way you can help identify what options these might have? The tag claerly states how many were made. But I have no idea how to find the rest of the information.

200xcellent
12-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Notice I said "what ever they might be". I have no idea what the option combination is. All I know is there is a tag that clearly states how many were made and it is clearly a Honda tag. Special ordering an ATV is a lot like ordering a car. Mopar nuts will back me on this. Think about this, is some ordered a Hemi Cuda convertible with a four speed they would have a cool car, but not all that unique. That one car may be 1 of 50. Now, if that person ordered a Hemi four speed with a bench seat stripe package and some other options then the unique rarity changes and it becomes a 1 of 1 car. Say Chrysler back then thinks, hey that is a nice combination and decides to build a few more to see how they do. That 1 of 1 car has now become 1 of 10 or 15. The point is the vehicle is self is not necessarily what makes up the rare factor, but rather the condition and what the vehicle has.

What if someone special orders the car you described and he gets it and it says 1 of 1, but shortly after someone happens to order the exact same thing after the other one was already shipped and received? Is the first one still 1 of 1 and the second one 1 of 2 or 1 of 1 also? I'm not trying to argue or make someone look dumb, I'm just curious.:wondering

LonesomeTriZ
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
There is no way to know if that happened or not. I have no idea how to answer that questiion. I have presentened all I know about this quad, and what little I know about the way vehicle numbers are tracked.

xd 200x
12-06-2005, 11:01 PM
That may have pulled the swamp rat. It is priceless

Tri-ZNate
12-15-2005, 10:51 PM
Well I got my Honda motorcycle guide today and I was looking at these things. Says that they were made for 2 years (1990-1991) with the trunk and the vin#s go from 478TE170LA000001 to 478TE170MA100001 and up.

LonesomeTriZ
12-16-2005, 09:27 AM
Does it show the available options? I will try and get the vin number off this unit. I try not to talk to this guy any more. He is a drug head and it is very difficult to maintain a conversation with him.

Tri-ZNate
12-16-2005, 09:33 AM
1990 only had the compartment but it shows two '91 200 fourtraxs. One with the dohicky and one with a rack. Neither pic of the turtle things has front racks, only the pic of the trx with the back rack has one.

Also they are the only 2 years that I can see that has a 4 speed tranny.

LonesomeTriZ
12-16-2005, 09:42 AM
I will try and make soem time to go get as much information that I can. Maybe we can figure out what makes this one one of two.

Tri-ZNate
12-16-2005, 09:46 AM
here is some more info. both compartment TRXs are called the TRX200 Fourtrax 200 while the one with the racks is called the TRX200D Fourtrax 200 Type 2. The racks one is the type2 not the turtle.

LonesomeTriZ
12-16-2005, 09:52 AM
Well at least I now know what to call it.:lol:

Howdy
12-16-2005, 10:04 AM
I will try and make soem time to go get as much information that I can. Maybe we can figure out what makes this one one of two.

Here is the identification info. See pictures
Howdy

Tri-ZNate
12-16-2005, 10:16 AM
its a 1990 since the decals are white

Howdy
12-16-2005, 10:29 AM
its a 1990 since the decals are white

From what I see it's a 91. The 90's have the "200" in white. The 91's have the "200" in grey. Looking at the pictures you can see the "200" is grey thus it makes it a 91 model.
You can see it better in this picture:
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16048&d=1126055989

Peace!!
Howdy

Tri-ZNate
12-16-2005, 10:34 AM
yeah. I was looking at the thumbnail and thought it all looked white

Howdy
12-16-2005, 10:37 AM
yeah. I was looking at the thumbnail and thought it all looked white

This picture really does make it look White. hmmm
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16049&d=1126055989

Howdy

Tri-ZNate
12-16-2005, 10:39 AM
:confused: Get the Vin Lonesome :lol:

Howdy
12-16-2005, 10:45 AM
:confused: Get the Vin Lonesome :lol:

Yes, a vin will tell for sure. I wonder if it's a mid year model? They may have used stickers that changed from grey to white by the way you looked at it. lmao J/K

I am willing to bet it's a 91 though. The flash from the camera will cause colors to show different. The pictures taken at a distance won't reflect the flash as much, and this would cause minimal if any color change.

edit: Now why the heck didn't I think of this sooner? I was just thinking about it: The 1 of 2 on the sticker may just be Honda's way of distinguishing ( sp? ) between the Type I and the Type II. They made both styles in 91. This way when you ordered parts you were sure to get the correct parts.

If this theory is correct then we have determined that it is a 91. How is that? Because they only made one style in 90 so they wouldn't have the "1 of 2" on the sticker.
It makes sence when you think about it.
Howdy

Vealmonkey
12-16-2005, 12:38 PM
I guess the question would be, that if you could get the vin number, could you track it through motor vehicles and see if it did belong to Don Garlits. You said this guy was some kind of drughead, might just be some kind of bs story.

LonesomeTriZ
12-17-2005, 10:15 AM
Okay, let's see if I can remember evrything I have to address.

The one of two is actually ingraved on a number tag with (I think) the vin that is reveted to the body.

Yes, I was pretty close when I took the photograph. He does not have a lot of room in his shop. So there is a very strong chance the flash discolored the lettering.

Yes he is a druggy. However, this is a recent accurance. he started getting doped up on pain killers because of his back injury. Now I have no idea what he is on but his thoughts and conversations are very disorganized. I have a hard time getting straight answers out of him now. He really did know Don Garletts. I beleive he biult some of the interior stuff to his mesuem. Don Garletts is a home town boy. My dad knew him very well back before he got real big. He and my dad even biult a bad ass Charger together. So as far as that part being a story, I can say he is telling the truth on that one.