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Six Stroke
02-28-2006, 04:19 PM
Here's Cat's "revolutionary" sled for '07.

http://arcticcat.com/snowmobiles/jaguar/

I dunno, but a 1056cc four stroke twin rumored at 120hp paired with an estimated dry weight of 575lbs kinda sounds like a tank. Time will tell, I guess.

200xcellent
02-28-2006, 05:10 PM
I agree. I just want their 440 snopro, I wish they would sell the new ones to the public.

TRI Z Racer
03-05-2006, 01:58 AM
the new 440s arnt worth getting, takes alot of cash, like $1000 dollars in parts before you can trail ride em. but are a quick little ticket.

Six Stroke
03-05-2006, 11:50 AM
Why, oh why would you trail ride a 440 Sno Pro?

TRI Z Racer
03-05-2006, 12:04 PM
Awesome Beefy suspension, reinforced tunnels, tons of lowend, will beat pretty much everything off the line. Until cats new release, its the only fully rider forward design. Lightwieght. There are many advantages to the 440 over the consumer models, its just the fact that the cooling system is not up to snuff with the firecats, its easy to overheat them and you have to convert to 93 octane casue they run on 112. You know its hard to find a 112 pump on the trail.

Six Stroke
03-06-2006, 11:15 AM
Exactly my point. The 440 Sno Pro is the ultimate ditchbanger, but a far cry from a trail sled.

200xcellent
03-06-2006, 05:20 PM
I guess it all depends on how HARD you trail ride. We ride with our right hands in fists and I would want the best suspension.

Six Stroke
03-07-2006, 11:04 AM
True, but any of the 440 race machines from any manufacturer aren't really known for engine longevity. They are wicked fast, but that comes at a price when you have a 440.

TRI Z Racer
03-09-2006, 03:49 PM
two of my friends run the older 440 race sleds converted on the trails, engine longevity isnt really that bad. one has a 2003 with 3 trail seasons on it and the other has an 01 with 5 trail seasons on it. The biggest downfall is the clutching on them. You gotta clutch them to be aggresive on the trial, otherwise they are a tight stop and go machine. And as someone else pointed out.. its all in how you ride. If you ride sitting all the time and like a plush ride then they are not for you. if you stand all the time and ride hard, then they may be your cup of tea.

Six Stroke
03-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Standing up is the only way to ride! :beer

RedRider_AK
03-12-2006, 10:25 PM
1065cc 4-stroke twin? Why haven't they made a quad frame for that thing yet?? :)

brapp
03-13-2006, 01:11 AM
what happened to the 172horsepower thundercat? the ultimate speed deamon. d a mn sob who stole it i wish i coulda cought him i woulda ended up killign him .

Six Stroke
03-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Cat just flat-out quit making triples (well, two stroke triples anyway) a couple of years ago. The T-Cat was replaced with the ZR900.

RedRider_AK
03-15-2006, 06:35 PM
Perhaps they got hit with a copyright-infringement suit? (Bad joke, I know.)

TRI Z Racer
03-15-2006, 07:12 PM
Perhaps they got hit with a copyright-infringement suit? (Bad joke, I know.)

i dont think it was that. I think it was more along the lines of it was more rotating mass which leads to lower peak RPM versus the 2 cylinders, a smaller powerplant leads to a smaller chassis plus a reduction in wieght and rebuild costs. Not to say triples dont have their place, but twins really kinda own them.

Six Stroke
03-16-2006, 06:10 PM
True. I'm sure that the ZR chassis handles better and is more nimble than the ZRII (ZRT, T-Cat) chassis. Big twins also have more pull down low. I just hope that Cat isn't going to try to market this new thumper as a musclesled, although it would probably be a good touring machine if the sheer weight of it doesn't wear you out.

84250r
03-18-2006, 12:51 AM
They retired the Thundercat. I don't know if anything can really ever replace a machine like that.

Cat has the F1000 for 2007. Looks ugly in my opinion.

Six Stroke
03-19-2006, 01:30 PM
Ick, you're right. I just saw pics of the new F sleds. They look like a Fusion.

TRI Z Racer
03-20-2006, 01:23 AM
yeah, but i garentee they will grow on you. 162hp seems low for a 1000cc 2 stroke, well have to see what happens once they line em up. ill stick with my 780sx

RedRider_AK
03-22-2006, 12:50 AM
yeah, but i garentee they will grow on you. 162hp seems low for a 1000cc 2 stroke, well have to see what happens once they line em up. ill stick with my 780sx

I still can't figure out why people crave so much horsepower. I mean, are you REALLY going to use all 100-odd horses your machine puts out... like, ever? Give me a good reliable 440 or 500 and I'm happy.

TRI Z Racer
03-22-2006, 02:12 AM
you gotta ride a machine thats cranking out the higher 170-180#s to appreciate it. when your riding rough trail and you can just get on it and stand it up bump after bump, ... its an indescribable feeling.

i mean even an f7 is hell of a fun ride for what it is, so so fast for a 700.

Six Stroke
03-23-2006, 03:17 AM
It's all about the rush. Sure, you may never use all 140hp that an F7 has, but it's nice to know it's there. Better to have too much than not enough, especially when it comes to sleds.