302,351w/351c??

[MTS]

Alright folks....need some help Decidin Witch motor im gona run in the 81 Ford f150 i just picked up, It has a Blown up 351W in it right now...for cost sake I would just like to drop another motor in and go....But I cant decide what to run.....i wana build a nice street motor out of it Eventually.....So i was thinkin 302....But Can you build the 351W up nice? or are they pretty much boat anchor's?

Holllaaarrr
Josh:beer

[200x Basket]

a 351w is the big brother to the 302. stick with the 351w.

[MTS]

a 351w is the big brother to the 302. stick with the 351w.
Well thats what i figured, Im not much of a ford Guy, but Been Told the 351w is nothin but Junk? Told 302 or Cleveland would be a better choice, I can get a nice 351C off a Buddy of mine with a Sfx? tran's For relitivly Cheap.....1972 i belive....Pretty much Zilcho hours on it, we pulled it out of a Track machine, but thenagain Cant you Get some Nice heads for the Windsor Too? Id like to build it into the 350-450 Hp on Pump gas Range,,,,,I dunno, I should pull the windsor apart in it......Gots a NASTY knock.....:crazy:

[firehart]

If you run a 351c, you'll need to get a different bell housing. My 95 F150 has a 351 Windsor. My 89 F150 had a 302. I'm not a hard driver but to me both the 302 and 351 Windsor seem about the same.

[200x Basket]

my 351 is now at 438 inches and makes about 700HP. now that is not what you wnat in a truck but it shows what you can do with a 351w.

[MisterFurious]

The Windsor is a better choice for what you want to do. And no, they are not boat anchors, see the above post!

[nate b]

they are all good motors, and all of them can be built to make awesome power. Also they all use the same belhousing.

[Banage]

drop a 302 in it, build a nice 460 or 429

[Banage]

they are all good motors, and all of them can be built to make awesome power. Also they all use the same belhousing.


no, a 351w is small block and 351c is a big block.

[ATC crazy]

The 351C is not a big block.

My trike sucks, Stick with the 351W. It is very capable, and there are endless aftermarket parts for it. Hell...it's the same block NASCAR uses in the Fords. Stock for stock, it will make more power and torque than the 302. The Ford Lightening used the 351W before the 5.4L came out. Plus, for your application, it's a bolt in and plug up engine.

[ATC crazy]

Oh yeah...FTE is the #1 site when it comes to Ford trucks:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum9/

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php

[MTS]

drop a 302 in it, build a nice 460 or 429
Id like to drop a BB in it, But MY Pockets arent bottmel less when it comes to fuel.....:lol: Looks like i gota get the Old motor Pulled and tear it down see what's making the wonderful Noise's....Stroker Crank anyone.....? :beer :w00t:

[SWIGIN]

what mpg did the 351 give you?

i get 10-11mpg out of my built 460 and its tons of fun!! (425hp 500tq)

[MTS]

what mpg did the 351 give you?

i get 10-11mpg out of my built 460 and its tons of fun!! (425hp 500tq)
All's i know is it is a pig on gas, i never Drove it when it was running....got it for Free.....whoooooo Im thinkin when im done its gona be in the 10-11MpG Range.....:lol:

[oldsking86]

I remember a 351c we did at my shop for a fella.. had a mild cam, worked heads and a solid bottem end.. That motor sure had a nice sound and a pretty good pull.. the 302's are also nice, high revers compared to the 351's.. Always remeber though, the more cubic inches the more power you can achieve.. At least in GM's that I've worked on and own that's the case.. Ford shouldn't be far behind either lol

[dwolf8u]

the 351c "cleveland" engine was considered a big block.the 302 and 351w have the same size blocks.the only diff is bore and stroke.good luck even finding a cleveland to build and if you do,better have a fat wallet.i would just stay with the 302, it's cheaper to build and there's plenty of performance parts available anywhere there's a auto parts store.the 302 has been produced for about 30 years.there's a reason for that!!!!!!!! :beer

[russell56443]

My 88 F250 SD 4x4 extended cab long bed gets about 12 mpg on the best day it ever had lol!!
Usually more around 9 but from what I hear it's good for the truck!
I have a F150 with a 302 also and it get closer to 16,OD tranny though.
I cant afford to drive my 250 much and am thinking of selling it because of the mpg,
I know I dont it for my daily driver lol!!!

[SWIGIN]

i have no idea why everyone thinks the 351c is a big block...just because the valve covers are big dont make it a big block.

it has the small block bolt pattern

its a 4 inch bore (like all small blocks)

ford even called it a small block...i mean what else do people need to understand

sorry for the rant im a long time cleveland fan and i cant understand the confusion

[nate b]

I love the clevelands myself. Had one in a '70 cougar, put one in a '78 Granada with a 4 speed, and one in a 76 bronco.

[84honda200s]

u want ballz drop a 427 in it lol or do wat my buddy did and build a 383 stroker and put it in. i know chevy engine in a ford? well its a good truck. ford body with chevy soul dont get any better.

[OldSchoolin86]

the 351c "cleveland" engine was considered a big block.the 302 and 351w have the same size blocks.the only diff is bore and stroke.good luck even finding a cleveland to build and if you do,better have a fat wallet.

All kinds of wrong here! LOL

First of all Ford doesn't even have big and small blocks they have families. BB and SB is a chevy thing and a 351c is from the 335 family. Second the 302 and the 351w do not share the same block. The deck hight is different on the two and they can not be interchanged. Lastly Cleavelands aren't that hard to find and you won't go broke building one.

[MTS]

All kinds of wrong here! LOL

First of all Ford doesn't even have big and small blocks they have families. BB and SB is a chevy thing and a 351c is from the 335 family. Second the 302 and the 351w do not share the same block. The deck hight is different on the two and they can not be interchanged. Lastly Cleavelands aren't that hard to find and you won't go broke building one.
Thats pretty much where im at, I can get a Hardly Run 72 351C that dosnt need rebuilt....or Rebuild the windsor, Hard decesion........might pop for it, port the heads, drop a roller cam in, Intake, headers, Nice Shiney new Carb........i dunno...choice's choice's choice's....

[200x Basket]

i have built about 10 ford race engines in the last 5 years. I can tell you that the winsor family has the most aftermarket parts. the 351w deck is 1" higher then the 260,289, and 302, but the heads and bellhousing still interchange. the intake and distributor are the only parts that will not fit on the 260-302. the 351w will make more torque then the 302 and torque is what you want in a truck.

screw the roller cam and junk. find you a set of GT40 heads, a edelbrock rpm intake, and a 650 vacuum seconday carb. put in a small cam and have fun. or jsut rebuild it stock. a truck will never be able to beat any sports car anyway. well it may beat a 3rd gen camaro.

one more thing. a 3 wheeler page is NOT the place to get info a ford truck engine. This post is proof of that.

[MTS]

screw the roller cam and junk. find you a set of GT40 heads, a edelbrock rpm intake, and a 650 vacuum seconday carb. put in a small cam and have fun. or jsut rebuild it stock. a truck will never be able to beat any sports car anyway. well it may beat a 3rd gen camaro.

one more thing. a 3 wheeler page is NOT the place to get info a ford truck engine. This post is proof of that.

GT40 Heads? Info? Dont plan on beating toomany Sports car's....Might throw a bottle on it for a little fun.....Most my buddie's drive trucks so We got our own Bracket.....heheh

[200x Basket]

those are the heads that came on 1st gen lightenings and 302 cobras. they also came on some early v8 explorers.

[crazy3wheeler82]

if i was you go with the 351w and if ya don't want to spend alot or just lookin for a little but of more go put some 302 heads on it cam it do what the ford motr builder said and bottle feed it. get a good c6 for it to. i have a 1975 F250 that i smoke the 6.0 chevy gas truck with so there is a start for ya but its all your choice.

[Name Brand]

351w would be my choice; for lots of the same reasons as have been stated already.

However I would not use that particular truck. In the early eighties Ford was trying to reduce overall weight of thier vehicles for better fuel mileage. Kneel down about twenty feet from the side of your truck and look at the frame rails. Down most of the length of them there are large round holes; about 4-6 inches in diameter. This makes for a rather weak frame when compared to later years when they went back to the solid design. I would get a later truck (mid 80's or newer) or at least a later frame to swap the body onto.

[cr480r]

I would stay with the 351, so you could re-use all the accessories. A 302 is a step in the wrong direction and the cleveland swap is more than likely more hassle than its worth. I am a chevy guy, but I drive a f250 with a 351w daily. Its the only ford engine i would run besides a 429/460 or a diesel...

[Banage]

new answer, throw it all out and get a 351m

[200x Basket]

that is a boat anchor

[oldsking86]

::cough:: chevy! ::cough::

[crazy3wheeler82]

just go BB 513

[MTS]

::cough:: chevy! ::cough::
I wish.......Dang cheby's are all rusted out BADD tho.....

[ATC crazy]

Oh come on! Do not turn this into a Ford vs. chevy thread!

[crazy3wheeler82]

cough 513 cough cough

[firefirefire90]

Oh come on! Do not turn this into a Ford vs. chevy thread!



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We all know ford is best anyways! :welcome:

[MTS]

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We all know ford is best anyways! :welcome:
K now you gon don said it.......I may be buildin a FORD....but Chev...Rules...:w00t: :beer