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Jason T
01-23-2007, 04:57 PM
Hers some pics from some offroading we did last weekend. The first few are of my dads Pinzgauer which he recently finished rebuilding. He actually managed to cause some minor damage to it by getting carried away, so hes not to happy at the min:(
The last 2 are of my girlfreind looking scared in a freinds Haflinger lol:welcome:

Jason

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super90
01-23-2007, 05:20 PM
Thoes things are awesome! I've never seen one over here before? They look like lifted RV's.

ATC-Eric
01-23-2007, 05:44 PM
Dude, that Pinzgauer thing rocks!!!! :w00t:


Any other action shots?

Jason T
01-24-2007, 05:16 PM
I haven't got any other action pics with me, got some non action though:pics:

Jason

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/General/DSC00794.jpg
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firehart
01-24-2007, 05:23 PM
What do they have for power? Are they built by Rover? How do they compare to a Unimog?

ceaserthethird
01-25-2007, 01:27 PM
Look's Good I Like It , Kinda Remind's me of the VW Bus ...

russell56443
01-25-2007, 03:06 PM
Yeah it does kinda look like a VW Vanagon LOL!!!

84honda200s
01-25-2007, 03:23 PM
its a vw on steroids lol it is a beast. i want one. its not a jeep but i would drive one for sure.

dizasterzrfun69
01-25-2007, 03:38 PM
the poor guy just wanted to show us some offroading pics and now all these silly americans are bothering him about a vehicle he probablly sees a couple of everyday :lol: :lol: :lol: it is pretty cool though, i wouldnt mind havin one. :D

random-strike
01-25-2007, 04:10 PM
lol

http://www.midwestmonsters.com/photos/old%20school/Allentown/uf2.jpg

Jason T
01-25-2007, 05:38 PM
It uses a Volkswagen 2.5 litre straight six diesel for power, not the best engine in the world, but it copes;)
Rather than explain the history I stole this from the website:

History

1971 Originally designed and built by Steyr-Daimler-Puch of Austria the first Pinzgauer rolled off production in 1971. The design concept evolved from the much smaller, but equally agile Haflinger and the first prototypes were produced in 1965.

1993 The company, Automotive Technik was founded by David Findlay and Alan Mawer as the UK agent for Steyr-Daimler-Puch. They imported the Puch Super G which they introduced to the Fire Service and the Pinzgauer which they sold into both the UK military and Fire Services.

2000 Automotive Technik Holdings Limited (ATL) took over the production rights for the Pinzgauer offering full manufacturing capability at its sites in the south of England.

2005 Automotive Technik Holdings Ltd is acquired by Stewart & Stevenson Services Inc. One of the world’s leading manufacturers of military tactical vehicle systems and a key supplier to the US Army.

March 2006 To maximise the awareness of the Pinzgauer brand Automotive Technik Ltd was re-named Pinzgauer Ltd

May 2006 Pinzgauer Ltd and Stewart & Stevenson became subsidiaries of the leading aerospace and defence group Armor Holdings Inc., manufacturer of security products for vehicle armoring and soldier protection capabilities.

Today The Pinzgauer is produced exclusively in the United Kingdom and is generally regarded as the most advanced and mobile off-road light utility vehicle in its class. More than 26,000 vehicles have been supplied to 28 Defence Forces Worldwide. Built in 4 x 4 and 6 x 6 versions, it is offered in a number of standard variants and the versatility of its platform enables the vehicle to be adapted to almost any configuration a customer might require, for example, armoured, waterproofed or a trauma unit.

In addition to the United Kingdom Ministry of Defence, Pinzgauer has an international customer base and is actively pursuing a number of programs Worldwide.

Check out the website:

http://www.pinzgauer.uk.com/default.php

My dad is proud to say that ours is the only one in the world with this specification (Right hand drive, Civilian specification, Diesel). They are now only produced for military use. He spent seven years (on and off) rebuilding it, I had better not tell him you think it looks like a VW Camper, he might cry lol lol:crazy:

Jason

firefirefire90
01-25-2007, 07:59 PM
So is that like a Unimog mixed in with a Land Rover Forward Control? NICE Defender!

Jason T
01-26-2007, 02:11 PM
I guess it does look a bit like a Forward Control Land Rover, thats where the similarities end lol:eek:
The Defender in the pic came with us, I'll try and find some better pics of it.:pics:

Jason

84honda200s
01-26-2007, 02:43 PM
"It uses a Volkswagen 2.5 litre straight six diesel for power"


nice isnt that the engine they use in the jetta too? i dont know maybe not. but none the less its got nut. i like it man nice rig

mark38090
01-27-2007, 11:11 AM
We do some of that here in the south...

monstertruckr81
01-28-2007, 10:55 PM
i try to do that too

ScottZJ
01-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Looks like fun, too bad I sold my Jeep cuz I do miss it sometimes.

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InfamyKustomz
01-29-2007, 06:54 PM
Random-Strike is that your tractor tire truck?
I LOVE the mud haha...heres some pictures from us jersey boys...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/Trucks28/my%20truck%20pics/5004.jpg
http://myspace-927.vo.llnwd.net/00740/72/97/740697927_l.jpg
http://a7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_92d00ba3ae7d2a06269cdaaca86ef756.jpg
http://a349.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/43/l_fd548767c01093dcd96a0f6e1d8483fc.jpg

Wish i had one of those things you have over in the UK to tow around the mud trucks, but i guess ill have to settle on buyin a deuce and a half because i doubt theres many of them in the U.S.

mad_max
01-29-2007, 07:49 PM
Hers some pics from some offroading we did last weekend. The first few are of my dads Pinzgauer...


Kinda reminds me of a Mercedes G-Class (I think that stands for "Glendelwagen")
on Steroids!

Pretty cool vehicle. Definitely doin' some serious muddin' there!:beer

chris200x
01-29-2007, 07:55 PM
Great pics guys. I just love the mud.

Jsaon, what's the price tag on somethig like that?

monstertruckr81
01-29-2007, 10:17 PM
man infamy all u guys have rockwells under your trucks thats not fair
mine will be that big somday (hopfully sooner than later)
all i need is MONEY

Jason T
01-30-2007, 04:12 PM
Theres a good reason the G-Class looks simialr, Steyr designed and built the G-class for Mercedes:D
There are a fair few of the early petrol versions around, and they are popular over in the US, most have been imported directly from Switzerland!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pinzgauer-712M-6x6-Ultimate-Offroad-Machine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80765QQihZ007QQ itemZ170075742363QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

The latest military specification Pinzgauer is rumoured to be £60000 + VAT, that works out to about $125000:lol:
Its a good job the military have a large budget:welcome:

Jason

InfamyKustomz
01-30-2007, 05:54 PM
man infamy all u guys have rockwells under your trucks thats not fair
mine will be that big somday (hopfully sooner than later)
all i need is MONEY

haha yah, theres a few with 5 ton rears too... the truck im building now(for myself) im putting Lorain Payloader rears under it which are for backhoes and the like, they have planetary hubs and are supposed to be incredibly strong... we'll see how they stack up against the rockwells
the nice things with rockwells is you dont reaally need too much motor since theyre 6.73 gears...so even with the tractors it turns em good witha stock 350 chevy...

And i dont know about the $125,000 price tag of one of those things :wondering , id rather spen $20,000 and make a sick VW bus on 2.5 tons :lol: , you guys payed that for the one pictured, or is that just the new retail on the ones sold to the miliatary?

Jason T
02-01-2007, 04:55 PM
Thats how much the new ones are for the military, we didn't pay anywhere near that much:D
They are built in really low volumes, I guess thats why they are expensive:wondering
Found a funny picture of refitting the engine, good job it has big doors lol :beer

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/General/DSCN0217.jpg

Jason

ATC crazy
02-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Nice ride Jason. I would like to have one someday...but it would be impractical to have one over here. Parts are hard to come by and are expensive if you do find them. The portal axles dont handle big tires and HP very well either...and the axles are even harder to find.




Anyways...Here's how we do it down here:






http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f25/Crazy-ATC/Jeep.jpg

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InfamyKustomz
02-04-2007, 09:34 PM
Nice ride Jason. I would like to have one someday...but it would be impractical to have one over here. Parts are hard to come by and are expensive if you do find them. The portal axles dont handle big tires and HP very well either...and the axles are even harder to find.



What makes you say that? Ive seen people with 700hp motors and tractors run portals...Unimog portals are on the same level as 2.5 tons, even a little stronger, i know people who have switched from 2.5 tons to the unimog portals, but you never hear of anyone switching the other way, especially out west with the rock crawlin...and you cant beat the planetary hubs.
But you do have to pay for them, and your right about the parts bein rare, you break an axle youre gunna spend a fortune(for an axle) to get a new one

I have changed my mind on the truck im currently building, i was going to pick up some rears with planetary hubs as i was gunna make a mud truck out of it, but ive decided on throwin it on those heavy 53" michelins and keepin it on street as a driver/show truck that will rarely see mud...im gunna stick with a small truck to put on tractors, more fun.

InfamyKustomz
02-04-2007, 09:36 PM
Thats how much the new ones are for the military, we didn't pay anywhere near that much:D
They are built in really low volumes, I guess thats why they are expensive:wondering
Found a funny picture of refitting the engine, good job it has big doors lol :beer

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/General/DSCN0217.jpg

Jason

Looks like its a pain to do that in one of those...did you guys have to rebuild that motor?Doesn't look like it is too easy to work on the motor once its in there:(

Guess there not too rare in the states, theres one on ebay right now for $13,500 BIN

Jason T
02-05-2007, 05:18 PM
The petrol engined ones aren't that rare, the austrian army had a lot and are selling them off now. The later diesel ones are pretty rare, partly down to cost I guess:wondering

You're right, the axles aren't the strongest out there, but with the standard engine they are virtually unbreakable, and they give us good ground clearance:)

We can get parts okay, but they are stupidly expensive. During the rebuild the axles/transmission were completely stripped down to every last nut, bolt and bearing so it could all be powder coated. We checked all the bearings and gears and there was no wear at all, its covered about 60000 miles now. So luckily we didn't have to buy many parts. :D

The engine is prone to cracking the head, and thats exactly what happened to ours. We stripped and checked the engine, and fitted a brand new head. We also fitted an intercooler and upgraded the turbo/fuel system at the same time.
The engine is okay to work on, if you remove all the covers that surround it:p

We've got loads of pictures from the rebuild, I'll see if I can find any more interesting ones:pics:

Jason

ATC crazy
02-07-2007, 11:00 PM
What makes you say that? Ive seen people with 700hp motors and tractors run portals...Unimog portals are on the same level as 2.5 tons, even a little stronger, i know people who have switched from 2.5 tons to the unimog portals, but you never hear of anyone switching the other way, especially out west with the rock crawlin...and you cant beat the planetary hubs.
But you do have to pay for them, and your right about the parts bein rare, you break an axle youre gunna spend a fortune(for an axle) to get a new one

Thoes portals must have been stuffed with chromoly shafts and gears...because a stock 404 (?) axle is not going to stand up to that horsepower. The stock Rockwells are much stronger and can hold up to a lot more HP, abuse, and larger tires.

Jason T
02-08-2007, 04:45 PM
I found some pictures from the rebuild for anyone who's interested, the first few are of the hubs. Luckily we remembered where all the parts went, they turned out well:pics:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/DSCN7579.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/DSCN7808.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/DSCN7590.jpg

I thought this one was funny, how to paint a roof:rolleyes: lol
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g82/hondapilotuk/DSC00492.jpg

Jason

InfamyKustomz
02-08-2007, 09:11 PM
Thoes portals must have been stuffed with chromoly shafts and gears...because a stock 404 (?) axle is not going to stand up to that horsepower. The stock Rockwells are much stronger and can hold up to a lot more HP, abuse, and larger tires.

eh i guess so....i never really looked into them too much so it was kind of stupid for me to argue that, but yah...the guy probly had it packed with top notch stuff because everything else was thats on it, ill ask him next time i see him

Looks like you guys did a full on rebuild/restore type of deal on that thing, did a good job :beer

InfamyKustomz
02-19-2007, 02:22 AM
Random-Strike is that your tractor tire truck?
I LOVE the mud haha...heres some pictures from us jersey boys...
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/Trucks28/my%20truck%20pics/5004.jpg
http://myspace-927.vo.llnwd.net/00740/72/97/740697927_l.jpg
http://a7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_92d00ba3ae7d2a06269cdaaca86ef756.jpg
http://a349.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/43/l_fd548767c01093dcd96a0f6e1d8483fc.jpg

Wish i had one of those things you have over in the UK to tow around the mud trucks, but i guess ill have to settle on buyin a deuce and a half because i doubt theres many of them in the U.S.


The samurai got COMPLETELY totalled, it looks like a soda can someone stepped on, the jeep painted john deere green and yellow got messed up, the 5th wheel trailor they where on got totalled and the ford dually towing them got totalled, they are lucky to be alive, i feel horrible for them
they where coming back from Mudfest in Florida and hit black ice in Fredricksburg, Va. , $4800 just to get them off the highway to the guys shop, they still have to go down and get everything
I feel horrible for them :(

InfamyKustomz
02-19-2007, 08:03 PM
Heres a few pictures to show how bad it was
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/CaptainRPM/mudfestfeb07173.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/CaptainRPM/mudfestfeb07163.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/CaptainRPM/mudfestfeb07169.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/CaptainRPM/mudfestfeb07172.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d55/CaptainRPM/mudfestfeb07160.jpg

Rm250RF900R
02-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Wow that samuri got ruined. The jeep doesnt look to bad though. Did everyone make it out ok?

InfamyKustomz
02-19-2007, 10:20 PM
everyone is okay, but the tub on the jeep is probably twisted, so it will never be perfect again unless they use a different body...they havent gotten them back to NJ but im sure there is a lot more damage to the jeep than you can se in person