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Manny55
05-07-2003, 08:43 AM
One of my friend were having a discusion and he has a 400ex 2001 and i haave a 1982 250r and we were getting into who would win in a race from top end to acceleration etc. I just wanted your guyz opinion of who would win

84250r
05-07-2003, 01:17 PM
Just go out there and race him. And remember to get pics! ;)

ATC crazy
05-07-2003, 06:19 PM
Theres only one way to find out....RACE 'EM

Wickedfinger
05-07-2003, 07:25 PM
Another this vs that - well I don't know - It always depends on the riders really, but the tale of the tape says stock vs stock - 400EX: 28hp, 375lbs, 4 valve A/C thumper, 4 wheels - '82 ATC250R: 18hp, 300lbs, A/C pinger. As much as I love the Air-cooled R's, I'd have to give it to the EX, in a drag or especially on the track.

84250r
05-07-2003, 08:07 PM
An 82 atc 250R has 18 hp....That cant be right. As the R is much more lighter it would have a good jump on the EX. Maybe it would give a run for its money in a short drag race.

350Xccelerator
05-07-2003, 09:48 PM
how much horsepower do the z400 and kfx400 have?

ATCRYDER
05-07-2003, 10:24 PM
<~~~ Pulls out hair and slams face on table.

Wickedfinger
05-08-2003, 02:59 PM
/me slaps Ryder in the face with a large brown trout to help him out with his agony ....

Wickedfinger
05-08-2003, 03:19 PM
81/82 ATC250R, 6.6/1 compression, PE23A carb, 18hp - 83 ATC250R 6.6/1 compression, revised port timing, PE30A carb, 23hp - 84 ATC250R 6.7/1 Compression, revised intake/exhaust port timing, PE30A carb, 24hp

84250r
05-08-2003, 04:19 PM
Where did you get your specs?

Wickedfinger
05-09-2003, 12:33 AM
Let me preface this with, while I suck at math, I love statistics, so I collect bits and pieces of information regarding ATV's. Now for the Hondas, I've told this story a few times on here allready but here it goes again. My old co-worker Bubba Bryner used to race gocarts competitively back in the day and was actually New Jersey State champion a couple of times before he turned his attention to ATV's. I believe he was sponsored in some way by Yamaha and campaigned a Tri-Z for a year then switched to Hondas. He has a friend Brian he used to race with who was sponsored by Honda back in the day and now has a small shop here in Pa and runs his own river guide/fishing company off the Delaware. Anyway, on the way home from a job we stopped by Brians shop for a while just to shoot the trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro and I was looking around at some of his old magazines and memorabilia when I picked up a copy of an old ATV tuning book with Marty Hart on the cover. It was like finding the holy grail of ATV spec's. The best thing about it was that it gave horsepower ratings on all of the Honda ATV's. I immediately offered to buy it from him - and he promptly refused. He did however let me photocopy a few pages out of it on his crapy fax machine, mainly of spec. charts. Now for the bad news, I never got the full name of the book and all my copies are missing the title of the book from the top. also, all the copies are on that crappy old style fax paper and have faded to the point where they are almost non-readable. I only copied a few pages - I missed a whole lot of info that included head to head comparisons of ATC250R's against Tecates and the Tri-Z that included their horsepower ratings as well as I recall. I did however write the info down so I still have most of it. Worst of all, after countless searches on the internet and eBay, I have yet to find this book. All I know is that it had the words "Marty Hart" and probably "inside secrets" in the title and it must be from 1985/6 because all the spec info ends on 1985.

mymint87
05-14-2003, 12:57 AM
heres a pic....little help w/ identifying the 250r as to what year

J.D.
05-14-2003, 10:52 AM
Hey Wickedfinger, still have the horsepower specs on an '85 Tri-Z? I'm curious to see that.

YTZ250#1
05-14-2003, 09:16 PM
I raced my 01 400ex aginst my old 85 tri-z and by the time the 400 hits
2nd gear it pulls away hard.tried this race riding the Z then the 400 same
results both times .but the R is faster than the Z so it would be a better
race for sure.

trikeman
05-15-2003, 10:34 AM
how do you guys think an 84 r 60 over, and other mods would do vs. a 400ex?