Honda HRC 450RR

[250rfan]

Thanks for the inspirational build and excelent coverage in your thread Gordon. After seeing some of your earlier posts i went and did a full 06 450R swinger, link and shock conversion on my 250R. I'm just finishing it off now but as you mentioned it is amazing how much hasn't changed in 30 years.

Your tripples that Jason has had made for you were obviously cnc machined. Does this mean there is a file somewhere and these can be duplicated for others to do the same conversion?:naughty:

Also, what is the model of the USD forks you are using?

Cheers Brett.



Brett,

Cool,,,:Bounce ,this is what i was hoping for, am glad my post has helped you in some way to ease the hassle of upgrading/converting your 85/86 to the new technology that is out there.:welcome:

Question - did you find my info/pics detailed enough?

Here is the link to the shocks i have, these were shortened to the same length as the Honda OEM shocks, as you can see in the last pic post i posted.

http://www.marzocchi.co.uk/moto/45legsx.html :twisted:

As for the blue print/ template for the CNC machining - am not sure, i have'nt asked Jason this question but i have ment to, hopefully he will chime in and let us know if infact his machinist made a proper drawing :wondering .

Well, am glad i could help you.

Cheers,

G.:w00t: :w00t:

Ps, say hi to Tony for me.

[johnny's X]

Those tripples turned out real nice. Cant wait to see what the finished product will look like. Nice work Gordon.

[Russell 350X]

Wow, I can't belive I missed this thread. Looking good man, can't wait to see it done!

[BC250R]

Gordon,
"Question - did you find my info/pics detailed enough?"

Your pics and detail have been great, i hope you dont mind but i have saved them all in a file for future reference. probelm i had that was as your frame was moded a lot of different factors applied to me. For instance where you lowered your top shock mount, i wish mine was higher as it jacked up the back of the bike somewhat. This was solved by lenghthening the rear most link 45mm. Bike sits nice and low where i had it with the original set up.

i would be very interested in the tripples if they are available and thanks for the link on the forks.

I only really dune ride here and i have no troubles sticking it to the 450 quads on smooth sand but the 30 year old suspension technology (and one less wheel) lets them get away in bumpy corners. I'm thinking this is the answer:naughty:

I'll say hi to Tony for you. He has been keen to see the results of the 450R rear end conversion.
Cheers, Brett

[johnny's X]

OK lets see this thing rolling, its been 3 weeks since the tripples got to you so we are ready for a roller

[super90]

I dont know how he can hold off so long! I would whip that thing together in 5 mins just to take it for a spin!

[250rfan]

Okay, i have the triples,,,,but i've decided to get the handle bar clamp placements machined, and the clamps fitted and handle bars on, before posting more pics.

I'm hoping it will just be a few more days, i'll get some pics posted before i send the triples for anodising...

i could post a couple of pics showing the bike in it's present state if anyones interested.

[RedRider_AK]

YES. We're all interested! Those are some very nice billet triples by the way. Should be stronger than the stock OEM unit as well (not that I've heard anyone breaking a triple tree, but who knows).

Pics please!

[Custom200]

Yes it be great to see some pics along time since any were posted

[250rfan]

HONDA HRC 450RR

Here ye go guys,,,,getting near the finish now.....:Bounce


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[Nick_R_23]

I cannot even begin to find words to describe that.....I gotta say that is the best looking machine I have EVER laid my eyes on!!! Excellent job!!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Dirtcrasher]

Unbelievable......

Looks even better every time I see it. I'm entirely jealous, wish I had the funds for something like this!!

Is there honestly even one thing you would have changed or done differently??

[brapp]

thats just awesome but to me the 250r's handle funny and i am actualy more comfortable on a 350x so its what i built my 450 out of but that is definitly a sweet trike. but did you have the atc450r decals made if so anychances of gettign another set made?

[200x Basket]

250rfan

I sent you a PM :)

[Billy Golightly]

Damn that thing is AWESOME. 250rfan, ya know that entire rear end came from about 10 miles where I live? :D

[RedRider_AK]

250rFan, I am going to send you a bill for a new computer, seeing as how I just ruined this one by drooling all over the screen and keyboard. That is the most beautiful trike I have ever seen, bar none. You are truly a man with a vision (and lots of funds).

Long live the trike!

[Eric250R]

I am truly speechless, a true work of art. You sir, win Trike of the year honors:w00t: :beer

[scrawny]

yep yep...good stuff!!

i would love to ride that thing at its absolute limit!!!

[250rfan]

Unbelievable......

Looks even better every time I see it. I'm entirely jealous, wish I had the funds for something like this!!

Is there honestly even one thing you would have changed or done differently??

Hey DC,

Truthfully - NO,,,,,,, i cant think of anything i would change except a specially built cromoly frame.

Do you think i could impove on anything? :)

[250rfan]

thats just awesome but to me the 250r's handle funny and i am actualy more comfortable on a 350x so its what i built my 450 out of but that is definitly a sweet trike. but did you have the atc450r decals made if so anychances of gettign another set made?

Send me your address, i'll send you some..:welcome:

[Bryan Raffa]

thats stupidly sick! the graphics are Killer...you got my vote for trike of the year!.:p

[luke]

That's an awsome machine :drool: :drool: :drool: What colour insert's you gona put in the rear fenders ?

[Russell 350X]

Thats beutiful man, loving the graphics and plastics. Can't wait to see the completion!

[WLL]

good gowd that trike is sooooo friggin sweet!!!!

[WaimakRydah]

that is crazy thats the meanest bike ive ever seen

[Dynofox]

I've been away from the forum for awhile so I'm late to seeing this build...250rfan, all I can say is WOW!! You've built yourself a gorgeous machine!

[250rfan]

HONDA HRC 450RR


Right guys, (especially Johnny's X ) here's the fitted triples.:) :) :)

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[250rfan]

HONDA HRC 450RR

IT ROLLS!!,,,,:Bounce ,,,,AT LAST,,,,:w00t: :w00t: :) :)


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Nearly finished, just the front brake caliper to mount up and a few other bits n pieces, then thats it done,,,,:w00t: :w00t:

[Eric250R]

I just licked my computer screen:drool: :drool: :drool:

[Custom200]

Ive been waiting a while to see this completed and it is sick. Youve created one of the sickest trike and have extraordinary abilties. I want it:drool: :drool: :drool:

[Billy Golightly]

Wow, I actually said "Oh My God" to myself out loud when I seen that, holy cow man that is an awesome awesome AWESOME build. I think I'm gonna have to nominate that one for best trike build in the history of 3WW. Fantastic craftsmanship and outcome. :pics: out in the sun, Please :D

[BigGreenMachine]

Hot! That is all.

[Bryan Raffa]

you got me SOOOOOO.... Pumped for my next Build! people like you are makeing 3 wheeling evolve where it left off in 87...just proveing we can make it this Hobby/sport/ the love of trikes,,,what we want it to turn into.:)

hat's off and high wheelie's to you!

[honda250sx]

I cant stop crying... tops anything i've seen or would care to see from here on out. screw the tigers and and factory racers. This is what its about. CONTINUING THE SPORT. You sir are a true craftsman and I commend you. Finish and start the next one!!!

[edog]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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[Bigbore]

:w00t: That's the NICEST work I've seen! :w00t:

[oOGoFastOo]

That is the nicest three wheler I have ever seen!!! How much do you have into it total? I want one.

[Dammit!]

Now go get it dirty and report back (with action pics). :D

[bp739]

I just licked my computer screen:drool: :drool: :drool:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ....now thats funny.....:lol: :lol: ...

OUTSTANDING WORK.....

[Jason Hall]

WOW Gordon, that thing Is BAADDD I love It. I see you angled the bar mounts back, that was a great Idea. I sooo love the color combo. You are the MAN.

I agree with Billy, we Need to see It outside LOL.

[johnny's X]

It cant be done, You would be better off with a 350x frame, Motor will never fit in the 250r cradle,way to many mods to make it work. O crap thats what everyone said in the begging of this build. Totaly amazing work Gordon. Hands down no exspense spared build here. This is exactly what a 2008 Honda ATC would look like.


Whats next on the build plans?

[johnny's X]

Hey Gordon did I see a fly fishing rod hanging there. Um when is my invite to go fly fishing and take that 450 for a tool around the lawn

[atctim]

Major Chub-On here - roll it out into the daylight and get some pics.

Gets my vote for trike of the Century!

[250rfan]

HONDA HRC 450RR


Hey Gordon did I see a fly fishing rod hanging there. Um when is my invite to go fly fishing and take that 450 for a tool around the lawn

:lol: :lol: ,,, well a 'tight line' i can't guarantee,,,,but a tool around on the 450 - no probs,,:welcome:

Thanks, for the compliments guys, as you can see there's still a bit to do before final completion, but here's a few outdoor shots i manage to take just now, before the rain started.

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Thats, it for the moment guys.........

[SYKO]

nice! thats the only 4 stroke racer I would like to have!! top notch!

[thefox]

That is just amazing, fantastic job! Now in a week we should have a poll to see how many people have it set as there desktop background.

[Tri-Z 250]

Super nice! to bad your across the pond. I love to race against that machine any Sunday. GET ER OUT THERE!

[oldsking86]

my dear heavens that thing is INSANE!!! the stance, the color scheme and the sheer power that thing must have haha please go out ride it, dirty it and have some videos of it :) Got my vote as the most wicked trike out there, spared no expense

[Custom200]

I love it. I have it as my background and have every picture saved from this thread in a folder on desktop..lol great job..Love to see it ridden

[Kintore]

Delicious is the correct term I think!

[JohnBeton]

WOW !!! Man, this trike is sick !!!
I really have to say, NICE JOB !

[250rJAMIE]

holly *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*,what a niice machine...good work!!!

[luke]

That is pure trike sex. I want one, but i'd be happy just to see it in the flesh !! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

I dont supose you built two, to keep one as new to look at ? Or sell :naughty:

[Paul C.]

Hey Gordon, How about some Video footage?
Lets here that baby run.:Bounce :beer :Bounce

[84honda200s]

that has to be one of the nicest trikes ive ever seen man !!!!! great work and great fab skillz.


can i put pics of it on my piczo site ?

[Red Rider]

250rfan, great job on the build & staying focused on the outcome! How much travel are your Marzochi forks providing? Were they custom built to your specs, or an off-the-shelf replacement for a current bike?

[SmurfanCoke]

My oh my... G, I had'nt checked *Edited**Edited* thread for a couple of weeks, but DAMN man it is looking fantastic...

I may have to take another trip up your road shortly...;)

This is undeniably one of the finest pieces of modern trike machinery out there....

:beer :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :beer

[travis712]

Hope it's possible for you to get some videos uploaded, would be cool to see that machine go.

[johnny's X]

Well Gordon you did it, you got an enite section on 3WW. HAHA you deserve it man.

[wad]

If honda made those today i would sell anything i had to buy one, thats simply superb dude!!!!!!!!!!!

[WaimakRydah]

u could mass produce them and make millions

[200x newby]

u could mass produce them and make millions

Or just make a kit. All the parts that needed to be custom fabbed to get the 450r stuff to fit. for example. Frame, tripple trees, thermostat housing... That would be awsome but only in my dreams!

[The Goat]

it is most certainly pure sex. lol.

do you know the total weight of it by chance? I'm curious as to what the power to weight ratio is.

[Brockey]

I havnt looked at this tread in weeks. But Holy wow. That thing is sexy. I want one. So how much you figure she cost you too build? Wish I had a money and patience to build one aswell.

[NESC104]

That is amazing, simply unbelievable....Well worth the wait.

I think i need a cigarette.

[Mosh]

I am glad I was able to see this build come full circle.
You have the sickest machines on this site.

It is absolutely stunning,and I doubt that this can be topped.

Maybe duplicated, or equaled, but will be near impossible to go beyond.

Give yourself a good pat on the back,and enjoy that machine.
Truley, the best build ever, in my eyes.

[atc110RED]

Great work, you must be very proud its a stunning build. Would it be possible to get a pic of it with the rest of your trikes?

[WLL]

Great work, you must be very proud its a stunning build. Would it be possible to get a pic of it with the rest of your trikes?thats what im talkin about:drool:

[The Goat]

i just noticed something while looking at my desktop background....where's your kicker? lol.

[NOS_350X]

i just noticed something while looking at my desktop background....where's your kicker? lol.


No need for one when you can just pus a button:beer

[bigred1]

Very nice work:beer

But hey I bet you already knew that:D

[250rfan]

I am glad I was able to see this build come full circle.
You have the sickest machines on this site.

It is absolutely stunning,and I doubt that this can be topped.

Maybe duplicated, or equaled, but will be near impossible to go beyond.

Give yourself a good pat on the back,and enjoy that machine.
Truley, the best build ever, in my eyes.



High praise indeed Mosh,,,, :Bounce ,,very high praise indeed.....:D

Thanks dude,

G.

[250rfan]

250rfan, great job on the build & staying focused on the outcome! How much travel are your Marzochi forks providing? Were they custom built to your specs, or an off-the-shelf replacement for a current bike?

Hi Red Rider,

if memory serves me correctly the shocks are producing 8" of travel, i cannot measure them at the moment as i'm overseas working. But i will give you exact
measurements on my return to the UK. I feel that i could get away with the bike sitting slightly higher at the front so i may lengthen the forks by another 2" i'll see how the bike perfoms on test.

The shocks are custom built, they were lowered using different springs to give me the same overall length as OEM forks. the shocks are an aftermarket RACE replacement for the CRF 450. http://www.marzocchi.co.uk/moto/45legsx.html

As you have modified your triples allready to accept USD forks, then you will have no problem in fitting these to you R the same as i have.

Some people may not be aware that the upper triple has a smaller ID than the lower triple, because the USD forks have a tappered outer housing.

The upper triple has an id of 53mm to clamp around the upper od of the fork housing.

While the lower triple has an id of 58.5mm to clamp around the widest part of the fork housing.

[snakemaster]

what a job you have done its tops (if carlsburg made a trike this would be it):naughty: its a beer thing mite not get the add in the US :D

[SpeedyTide]

This trike is SICK!!! :twisted:


Now this thread is looooong, so I didn't search it.....;) , but did you make those forks, or what are they from?

Awesome job, and CONGRATS on the masterpiece! :beer

[250rfan]

This trike is SICK!!! :twisted:


Now this thread is looooong, so I didn't search it.....;) , but did you make those forks, or what are they from?

Awesome job, and CONGRATS on the masterpiece! :beer


Cheers Dude,

I think i may have answered your question in my reply to Red Rider, 3 posts back.

:beer :beer

[250rfan]

i just noticed something while looking at my desktop background....where's your kicker? lol.


Glad i could supply you with a new desktop background dude,,,your :welcome: .
ye, no need for one of those kicker thingy's or a GOKI! :D :D

Not sure what the dry weight is dude, but i'll try and find out. :beer

[oldsking86]

Ok now get on this thing and ride it and report back :)

[Custom200]

How about those pics of this and your other trikes.. when are you goning to ride it?

[tanks350x]

Well, I don't know where I've been during this build, just call me johnny come lately I guess. What an awesome job:w00t: Your fab skills, and checkbook are amazing:lol: You should send some pictures to Honda directly, if you already haven't,, Pat youself on the back, and know that you did a job very, very, very, well done

[UlsterATCFan]

Hey 250r fan, just wondering what the scoop is with this one? Have you got a ride report for us and some final pics? Theres not alot more I can add to the compliments you've already received except to say effing well done big man, you've built THE most amazing looking and soundly engineered race ATC on the face of the planet. Inspirational.

[Bad Karma]

For some reason I never looked at this thread, but I just spent the last 2 hours (at work, no less!) reading every page.

Awesome, absolutely awesome.

I would love to see more on the builds of your other trikes. I am amazed at the detail and at the hard-to-find parts you have been able to acquire.

Congratulations, it is a beautiful machine.

[p500r]

how can i build one like that? do u have any measurements i need to know.
email me what i need to start with.
that is one bad badass trike! i always wonder if it could be done.

[p500r]

my email is kwdesignz@hotmail.com

[250rfan]

how can i build one like that? do u have any measurements i need to know.
email me what i need to start with.
that is one bad badass trike! i always wonder if it could be done.

Ye, your right it is BADASS

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Well dude, i thought i had covered most of the measurements at the begining of
this thread :wondering ,,,,,did you checkout the thread from the begining?.
let me know how i can help :)

Ohh,,buy the way, it not finished yet, still got the front brake caliper to mount and a few little bits n pieces.

[350Xhilaration]

I started reading this thread when it started and thought "This is going to be a super build. The guy knows what he wants to do and will get it done."

I have been busy with other things and haven't checked back in a while. Do you know how difficult it was for me to see the small pic in your sig and not jump to the last page to see the finished build? I went through each page and fought the urge to click "last" and am glad I did. Thanks for the great thread. It was worth it.

I think it's great that you were able to collaborate with fellow builders across the pond to get this finished. That's what makes this community so great.

Congratulations on setting the bar for future builds (and building one nice machine).

[p500r]

can u make another set of tripples and how much would that cost?
and also the forks, how much? or can i use crf 125 forks?

[Louis Mielke]

Trust me bud, you gota have deep pockets for those triples and forks. You'll have $1000 invested easy if not more. A lot of these questions are best left to private messages, I'm sure he'd be happy to answer your questions with out the need to litter up his thread.

[250rfan]

For some reason I never looked at this thread, but I just spent the last 2 hours (at work, no less!) reading every page.

Awesome, absolutely awesome.

I would love to see more on the builds of your other trikes. I am amazed at the detail and at the hard-to-find parts you have been able to acquire.

Congratulations, it is a beautiful machine.


Thank you Bad Karma,

At the moment am working on this bike, and an 85 250r flat tracker, and two 86 250r's,
am a bit busy at the moment, i still have the front wheel spacers to fit to this bike on my return to the UK, then i can concentrate on the front brake caliper mount.

But rest assured my trike'ing friend, i will be posting my collection as soon as i get the collection finished, due to the fact am very particular when it comes to detail and quality, things take a bit longer.

Having one mint trike takes some doing, try six,,,,,,,:wondering ,,,all 100% mechanicaly and visually.

"ITS NAE EASY", as we say in Scotland.


Ps, thanks also 350exh.

[steven 250sx]

you are hands down a very hard working man. I can't remember whose sig quote this is but "work like hell and feel like heaven". And i for one think your bike is a peice of heaven , be very proud of what you have done.

[the great gazoo]

I followed your build for a good while & was really impressed with your attention to detail, but the thread got away from me. As a matter of fact, I was looking at another thread & I saw the 450R in your sig. I thought for a second & remembered your build.I checked out the entire thread again from the start & Wow. I was blown away when I viewed the full size pics. Incredible, unreal,beautiful. Thank you for all the pics & info, 250RFan, that's one nice machine!

[tiggger]

Beautiful work!

Could you do the next one in Red and Gold, just like a factory original? ;)

[Russell 350X]

That looks awsome man, turned out pretty sweet. Hows the ride?

[SmurfOnAGixxer]

Excellent top notch craftsmanship right there ladies and gentlemen.

That machine will be featured in a magazine, or many magazines in the near future, no questions asked.

Excellent job!

[yamaha225dr]

Man that build right there just made me wish that I had never sold my trike's! All I can say is WOW! That build has surpassed any four wheeler or trike that has ever been built! I put a picture as the background on my computer. I can't wait to finally hear that thing run. Sir you have a brain on your shoulder's and deserve alot of props for the engineering you have put together on that three wheeler. Great job! Please excuse me while I make love to my computer!

[Hoosier_Daddy]

That is just jaw dropping beautiful. Great job. If I was forced to give criticism, the only thing I could come up with is that you labeled a four stroke a 450R. Maybe it should be 450RF? I guess 450X wouldn't do it justice. Never the less, this is exactly what i would expect to see if I was going to walk into a showroom and buy a brand new 2008 trike.

[yamaha225dr]

That is just jaw dropping beautiful. Great job. If I was forced to give criticism, the only thing I could come up with is that you labeled a four stroke a 450R. Maybe it should be 450RF? I guess 450X wouldn't do it justice. Never the less, this is exactly what i would expect to see if I was going to walk into a showroom and buy a brand new 2008 trike.

I'm guessing the reason he called it 450R is because the Honda 450 atv has the R at the end and the motor he used is the one off of the atv!

[250rfan]

I'm guessing the reason he called it 450R is because the Honda 450 atv has the R at the end and the motor he used is the one off of the atv!


That's correct, the reason for the HRC is due to the engine being fitted with the Honda oem HRC power up kit, and the reason i went with the RR is because the bike is a modified 250R- So thats the first R, and because the engine is from a 2006 TRX 450eR - there's the second R.:)

Glad you like my build Hoosier, i'll be posting some pics of the recent progress tomorrow.:D :D .......well i will be if it's sunny.:naughty:

[Hoosier_Daddy]

That's correct, the reason for the HRC is due to the engine being fitted with the Honda oem HRC power up kit, and the reason i went with the RR is because the bike is a modified 250R- So thats the first R, and because the engine is from a 2006 TRX 450eR - there's the second R.:)

Glad you like my build Hoosier, i'll be posting some pics of the recent progress tomorrow.:D :D .......well i will be if it's sunny.:naughty:
Awesome! Can't wait to see 'em!

[250rfan]

Well, i took the 450 out today for the first proper test run since the build began, and am disappointed,,,,,,:( ,,,,disappointed i never took it out SOONER!!!!:D

Well i still have to fit the front brake caliper, but i just had to try the bike out, and am very very pleased with the end result:Bounce :Bounce .

I had the front forks modified originally as i thought the forks in there original state would be to firm for the 3 wheeler, but after i instaled the wheel spacers i realised the forks were to short and the donner springs were to soft & short.

So the front shocks have been restored to there original factory spec (265mm travel):D , i had to mount the ignition system and a few other little bits n pieces, but thats it running now - and running well. :D

When i bought this trx 450 i never rode it ,as it arrived in a crate from the states sort of partially dissmantled, so i never rode the engine as a quad, i found out today the bike only has 5 gears,WTF, am ripping up the trails and wondering WTF, i think the bike needs another gear but thats just me.

So as far as the ride report, the bike rides really smooth, the front suspension is fantastic:Bounce , the factory works Marzocchi shocks just soak up the bumps and ruts, the rear suspension feels really smooth although the rear tires am using are hard and heavy, you can feel the hardness of the ride coming from the tires and not the rear shock. I have the original 450 rear tires and lots of others like turf tamers, holeshots ect, so i'll experiment a little and see what rear tires i like best.

Like any of you know that have a trx 450, the bike pulls hard from low revs up.

I have'nt tried it on grass/mud yet only on hard packed gravel forest trails, so traction could have been better, but the bike handles great, it's by no means a wheelie machine - unless you want it to be:D, possibly due to the extended swinger. But considering i built this bike practically single handed, i am really happy with the end result.

I'll post some action shots soon.

Thanks, again to the 3WW members who assisted me with this project.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/HRC450-TESTING003.jpg

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[SeaBass8]

Absolutely amazing build. The whole trike really looks awesome. And I really like the look of the front end with the inverted forks. I had to put that first pic there as my desktop.

Great job!

Nice sticker on the back fender too. :beer

SeaBass8

[Aka_am]

awesome! this is now my dream bike, a 250r converted to 450 :D

So since you have ridden it, do you like the 450 better then the 250? cons and adv?

[SmurfanCoke]

Still looks amazin m8, can't wait to get up an see it again...

[KillerBox]

Do you have one of these trikes for sale?

[Hoosier_Daddy]

I missed how you got those triples that will accept inverted forks. Did you make them yourself?

[250rfan]

Do you have one of these trikes for sale?

Sorry dude, this bad boy is a bespoke one off,,,,,:D





I missed how you got those triples that will accept inverted forks. Did you make them yourself?

No, the triples were kindly made by Jason hall here on the board, myself, Jason and the machinist - a friend of Jasons collaborated in the fabrication.

I told Jason what i wanted, we talked, came up with the best offset while still sticking to OEM angle, then worked with the machinist to achieve the end goal.

The triples are one of the best pieces on the bike IMHO,,,,:D

Glad you like them Hoosier.

Cheers G.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Sorry dude, this bad boy is a bespoke one off,,,,,:D






No, the triples were kindly made by Jason hall here on the board, myself, Jason and the machinist - a friend of Jasons collaborated in the fabrication.

I told Jason what i wanted, we talked, came up with the best offset while still sticking to OEM angle, then worked with the machinist to achieve the end goal.

The triples are one of the best pieces on the bike IMHO,,,,:D

Glad you like them Hoosier.

Cheers G.
Love them. I wish I had the money to get some triples like that made for my trike.

[350xrider911]

did you paint the plastics?

[scooterroo]

wondering about the front forks... where did you get them from, how much where they, did you need to do any mods to them or do they come the way you see them in the pics?

[scooterroo]

nevermind, i found the answers i was looking for. awesome thread man. very detailed and informative.

[250rfan]

Hi 350xrider911

Yes the plastics were painted.




nevermind, i found the answers i was looking for. awesome thread man. very detailed and informative.


Sorry scooterroo, have'nt looked at the site this afternoon.

Okay i did modifiy the forks originally, but after fitting i realised they were to short and soft, so i had them put back to original factory spec(so the forks have not been modified).:D

The front brake caliper mounting bracket has just been modified, and the engineer is presently working on the new mounting points for the front fork guards.

The engineer has also modified the fuel spiggot on the carb, so i only have the front light to wire up and that should be the bike totally finished.:Bounce :Bounce :D

Thanks for your kind comments.

G.

[big_daddy124]

I just read this whole thread and all i have to say is WOW. I noticed the "reds" some guy was wearing in one of the pictures. Halliburton also maybe?

[250rfan]

I just read this whole thread and all i have to say is WOW. I noticed the "reds" some guy was wearing in one of the pictures. Halliburton also maybe?


Thanks:w00t: ,,,,,,na not Halliburton but Baker,,,,,,,and i work for Weatherford.:welcome:

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Thanks:w00t: ,,,,,,na not Halliburton but Baker,,,,,,,and i work for Weatherford.:welcome:If you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living?

[johnny's X]

Gordon works on 3 wheelers for a living....haha. I already asked to get adopted and he is now calling me his son and dad is building me a new 3 wheeler.

[AML Racing]

We need more details on how you built this trike....I think every one who likes 3 wheelers love this trike.

[Dirtcrasher]

We need more details on how you built this trike....I think every one who likes 3 wheelers love this trike.




Details? :rolleyes: Unless Gordon edited his thread, there are pages and pages of pretty clear information on this build.

I didn't think he left too many stones unturned....

Yep, we ALL love this baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great build (again) Gordo!!

[250rfan]

If you don't mind my asking, what do you do for a living?


Well Hoosier, mainly surfing ebay and building LC 250r/450rr trikes:D :w00t: , and in my spare time I'm a TT fishing supv:naughty:


Gordon works on 3 wheelers for a living....haha. I already asked to get adopted and he is now calling me his son and dad is building me a new 3 wheeler.

LOL,,,,:welcome: ,,,,Hey Johnny,,,,,pity you stay Sooooooo far away SON, would build you a trike no problem,,,,although your very accomplished in that department yourself :w00t:


We need more details on how you built this trike....I think every one who likes 3 wheelers love this trike.

Well, as DC says i think i have covered almost every part of the build, if there is anything specific you wish to know please pm me.
I'm glad you love my build :w00t: :w00t: :welcome: .



Details? :rolleyes: Unless Gordon edited his thread, there are pages and pages of pretty clear information on this build.

I didn't think he left too many stones unturned....

Yep, we ALL love this baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great build (again) Gordo!!

Hey thanks DC,,,,,here's a couple of recent pics for you and Johnny,,front brakes are now mounted,,,,,while still keeping the forks as trailing axel the same as 85/86 OEM:w00t: :w00t:,,,just the front light a kill switch to wire up and thats the BAD BOY finished :w00t:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/HRC450RR003.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/HRC450RR004.jpg

[Red Rider]

250rfan, the front brake setup came out very nice. How about a close up photo so we can see the details? Also, do your fork guards have enough room to slide behind your front fender? I know on my inverted fork conversion, I needed to move the front fender forward a bit so they would clear, should I happen to bottom them out. I just don't want to see you waste your fender or fork guards. ;)

[250rfan]

250rfan, the front brake setup came out very nice. How about a close up photo so we can see the details? Also, do your fork guards have enough room to slide behind your front fender? I know on my inverted fork conversion, I needed to move the front fender forward a bit so they would clear, should I happen to bottom them out. I just don't want to see you waste your fender or fork guards. ;)


Hey Red Rider,,, gee,,,,,,,thanks for the heads up, i never thought of that:rolleyes: , i'll do some measuring tonight. Do you know how much distance is left when the forks are fully compressed from the bottom of the fork leg to the end of the slider?.

As for the close up's, ye no problem, i was actually going to pm you and show you how it was done, but i forgot to take step by step pics when we first began the alteration so i'll need to disassemble the complete assembly (which is in 3 parts), which is no problem, but this is really the first time i have used the bike with all brakes operational & the bike complete so i want to take it out a few more times and just enjoy it before i start taking bits of again.

I'm going to change the front caliper to an 85 black one, so i'll take the pics then and update you.

cheers,

G.

[Red Rider]

Do you know how much distance is left when the forks are fully compressed from the bottom of the fork leg to the end of the slider?.

...so i'll need to disassemble the complete assembly (which is in 3 parts), which is no problem,I would imagine the measurements would be different since we're both using different forks. I never thought of the clearance issues myself, until I had the springs out & the forks collapsed, so I could put in the heavier springs.

No need to disassemble your bike to take pics of the front brake setup. I just wanted a closer-up pic to see how beautiful it came out. We've all grown accustomed to your attention to detail, and the front brake setup is typical 250rfan work. :w00t: Me likey!

With respect to the PM, thanks for thinking of me though. :D

[250rfan]

Here ye go RR,

The mounting assembly comes in 3 parts, and bolts onto the fork tube lower housing utilising the existing guard mounts and the front axel.
The mounting bracket is fabricated from aluminium and was hand machined and polished by my engineer friend. Like the rest of the parts he makes for me the workmanship is top notch. He also machined & fitted new mountings for the guards.


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/HRC450RRFrontBrake003.jpg

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[Red Rider]

Thanks for the close-ups rfan. Very sano. Top notch work indeed!

[Jason Hall]

Looks great Gordon. Did you end up removing the lower aluminum piece from the chrome tube? Or did you use all bolt on parts so you didn't have to do any welding? I see you bolted the rear section on, was just wondering what you did for the fork gaurd mounting bolts.

[250rfan]

Looks great Gordon. Did you end up removing the lower aluminum piece from the chrome tube? Or did you use all bolt on parts so you didn't have to do any welding? I see you bolted the rear section on, was just wondering what you did for the gork gaurd mounting bolts.


Hey Jason,

Firstly, well done on your win at Smith road :w00t: :w00t: ,

Okay, no i never had to remove the lower housing, the caliper bracket bolts straight on utilising the front axel and the original fork gaurd mounting points. So no welding required.

As for the new fork gaurd mounts, small bushes were made, bonded onto the fork then drilled and tapped after painting you would never tell they are not factory:w00t:

Jason, your prediction on the tank welding was correct, the tank sprung a small leak so rather than p1ss about with plastic welding, am getting a new replica tank made, this will eliminate any future tank problems.

Cheers,

G.

Oh,,,,,and again well done on YOUR WIN at smith road:w00t: :w00t:

[johnny's X]

Well Dad, lol I will be moving back home in a couple of weeks. You have not met my new wife yet and we have 13 kids I still hope my room is empty in the house. hahaha.


Anyway the fork guards are looking good and I like the numbers on the rear.

One of these days I will get my head out of down below and get back in gear on the R. Right now I have a sx torn apart and trying to get done before hunting season so my father can have something to get up in the woods. Parts for this beast are a pain in the arse. Its going to be a suprise for the old man. Hope to get it done

[250rfan]

29,000 views to my thread - :beer

[saleen_n_around]

Gordon, that is a very impressive build, and although I will never be able to duplicate, imitation is the best form of flattery, so I you might recognize some finishing touches on my 250R build whan I am done......

Outstanding work and a great lesson in patience...

[250rfan]

Well Saleen,

As it happens i have'nt used the 450 for a few months now,,,,:(

The fuel tank developed a leak after the last outing pictured here.........

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/AlfordVintagerally2008020.jpg

The plastic welding did'nt hold up as predicted by Jason Hall, but i had to give it a go and see if i could make it work, part of the problem with plastic welding a fuel tank is that you cannot get inside to do a sealing weld.

Also plastic welding unlike normal metal welding does'nt really penetrate the plastic, more like glues it together really.

I scoured the internet trying to find some sort of product that could seal the leak from the inside like you get for the metal tanks, but all products seemed to only cater for the metal fuel tank.

So..........a quick phone call over the pond and a solutions was found,,,,,,,:)

Jason Hall has came to the rescue again with this OEM replica tank made of Aluminium...............:naughty:

Sweeet............

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/250rfantank001.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/250rfantank002.jpg

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As you can see Jason has almost completed the tank, but due to family obligations and other projects it's taken a bit longer than first estimated,,,,by it will be worth the wait.

Thanks,

G. :beer

[this guy]

now that is how it's done!!!! I dig the aluminum forgive me but I am a suzuki fan so I must say that thing is very RMZ looking. Are you going to anodize it?:drool:

[The Goat]

damn jason, I know you do good work...but sonofabitch that thing is perfect.

me thinks black powder is in order....get someone to polish that sucker to a mirror, and then black powder....I'd imagine it'd look like onyx.

[Jason Hall]

Gordon, I will finish the tank this weekend. Here's the secret to building It :beer

http://http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff42/Jasons450r/250rtemplates.jpg

[atctim]

MAD SKILLZ Mr Hall - holy cow - oooops I just crapped my pants! that thing is beautiful. You are the Jesse James of Trikes! Sweet project.

[SYKO]

ANY CHANCE you would send a the copies of your pattern out? im interested in making one of those tanks!!

[Jason Hall]

Come on Syko!!! You really are a syko :lol: :lol: I'll see what I can do about sending you a copy of the pattern!!

This looks real easy, but WOW It wasn't. I hammered on this thing for DAYS trying to get both sides the same. The mounts are being welded on tomorrow. I'll be able to send It out on Monday.

[tw45acp]

Well 250r fan that thing is amazing!!! I joined this site just to see how much info i could find out about my 85 250r. I think i just stumbled into a gold mine of info. What an amazing build. I really would like to put some inverted forks on my 250r. Do you have exact measurements that i could give to my machinist to build a set of those triple clamps or can you have your guy make me a set and for how much $$$?

[250rfan]

Hey Mr Hall,

High wheelies Dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:)

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/250rfan/Trx250vHrc450006-1.jpg


Just spent the afternoon blasting around with my son. shens

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The tank is perfect Jason :beer i had to get the underneath modified a litte more to fit over the top of the engine, but considering i never gave you exact measurements it was almost spot on mate.
After a little prep work and spry job you can see anyone would be hard pressed to tell it from an OEM tank,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:w00t:

Top notch work there Jason.:drool: :drool:

Thanks again.
G.

[Lord Letto 20]

:drool: Holy: trailpro trailpro trailpro trailpro ! Nice trailpro trailpro trailpro trailpro in Trike!:TrikesOwn

[BC250R]

I see you found a nice place to stick the old 250R motor!

[Jason Hall]

SWEEET, I'm glad you got everything to fit properly, I was :wondering but just figured you were real busy at work :Bounce :Bounce

Presto chango, I like the 450 with the R engine, your amazing buddy!!!!

[250rfan]

SWEEET, I'm glad you got everything to fit properly, I was :wondering but just figured you were real busy at work :Bounce :Bounce



Ye, been real busy of late, but now she's rollin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D


Thanks again Jason.

[audioworks04]

so did yousteal the 450 out of your sons bike? nice got any build pics of it?

[Tecate250]

Wow. Totaly missed this thread. Great idea and is helping me decide on how I want to build a 500r from a cr and atc 250r.

[Shorty]

I know this bike is finished but is there any updated pics of it? And have you thought of having a chromoly version of this frame made?

[RiJiD-WILL]

someone said this trike is heavenly but I have to disagree that is a demon seed sent straight from HELL to make every trike lover Jealous!!!

Amazing work. you have an obsession!!
My favorite parts are the red accents the sprocket, shifter, levers. very Subtle! I built a MTN bike with the same colors, and can only dream of getting my Tri-Z in those colors, what did you use to paint the plastics and why? I have good black plastic just sun beaten I am wondering what options there are to bring them back to life,
thank you for the attention to detail not only in the build but in your response aswell truely you are a good man..

when you get bored of her go ahead and Anodize the rims and tripples in red, and shes sold!!!

Great work!!

[MrPretty]

This is awesome... That trike looks so fierce!

[nobert2120]

That is just amazing, fantastic job! Now in a week we should have a poll to see how many people have it set as there desktop background.

thats funny i tottally did that right before i read that comment lol hahaha. Great work man couldn't be more perfect its a true work of art and belongs on the cover of a magazine lol Bringin em back!!!! I bet that thing is fast as hell....

[250rfan]

thats funny i tottally did that right before i read that comment lol hahaha. Great work man couldn't be more perfect its a true work of art and belongs on the cover of a magazine lol Bringin em back!!!! I bet that thing is fast as hell....

Thanks for the comments guys!...

[Sick200x]

awesome build...a great read too. Makes me want to build a true custom rather than a hopped up, mostly stock machine. This site and it's members truely are the best, if it's trike related, no need to check anywhere else. well done....

[longbedGTs]

Followed this build in the process but didnt comment? Maybe because I was too busy drooling! Awesome trike Gordon! Never saw the aluminum tank till now, but Jason did a killer job on it. You two are craftsmen for sure!

[Bretmd94]

Read through the thread again today, it is such a beautiful bike. I like it so much better than the rest of the 450 trikes. It is because of the 250r being the starting point rather than going the 450 quad/dirtbike route.

I was never a fan of painting plastic, but it has worked so well. It gives the bike a great OEM look rather than the "im covered in maier poo" look.

The forks, triple clamps, front brakes..... Are Phenomenal.

Even after years, this trike is it. Top notch job you've done.

[ringdingrider]

amazing work man. way to step outside the box and make it so amazing and to such high standards. hit me up if you ever decide to mass produce haha.

[socs28]

Not sure anyone is still watching this thread, but would using the motorcycle top end and carb (or just plain use the whole 450x engine) have allowed the tank and frame to not need to be cut?

[thcowboy]

Wow :pics::drool:

[250rfan]

Wow, been a while since I posted on this thread and to think it's been 7 1/2 years since the thread started - where does the time go?


Well, there's been a few revisions to the bike since the original build so I thought I would take some time out to update the thread for anyone who may be interested.

On the last run out ( end of last year ) on the beach the bike overheated and blew the water hose so on investigation I think the problem was more to do with the rear tyres ( fast trackers) than an engine issue. So I will run the OEM 450 rears on the beach from now on.
While looking into the issue I decided to make some improvements to the water system to hopefully assist in the cooling of the bike. Those in the know will be aware of the fact the engine is from a 2006 TRX 450eR so the engine came from a quad which had a radiator fan installed as standard. Putting the engine into the 250R chassis means I lose the original radiator and radiator fan.

Therefore I decide I would make a 3 stage improvement, mainly to reduce water temp from radiated heat from the exhaust effecting the water hose.

Step 1 - Design Engineering Titanium Exhaust Wrap

Step 2 - Design Engineering Versa Shield

Step 3 - Radiator fan with Digital Temp sensor - http://www.trailtech.net/electrical/digital-fankit

On initial testing (tick over) the fan is working perfectly keeping the temp at -+ 190 DegF , I will see how things transpire.

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Another couple of changes were to the upper top tube, in order to get the OEM carb to fit I removed part of the top tube which can be seen in the first pages of the thread.

On re examing this issue I decided to cut the top of the OEM carb, this made it possible to get it almost under the top tube, but not quite. So I cut of the intake manifold machined an angle to it then welded it back on in situ (couldn't be bothered removing the engine), this put the intake at a more downward angle which helped to put the carb at an angle which made it fit under the top tube.
So, now the carb would fit I returned the top tube back to normal.
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[atc007]

Pleasure as always sir :)