KHAOS 500R built by TEAM HEAT AND BEAT

[SYKO]

well I finaly started the assymbly of some of my partsof my flat tracker (not racing any longer:cry: ) for the 08 season, first off the frame is 2 inches longer to better suit my ginormous size its painted in House Of Kolor candy apple tangerine with tons of HOK red micro flake and HOK red Ice pearl, also are a few peices that I had pc'ed chrome from FULL SPECTRUM POWDER COATING (dreadhed) also is the trx 450R swinger I will be using since this is the early model it is -1, also I set my oem short track tank I picked up for a song while back on there, I wil be reusing my black frnt fender and rear fender, but will redo all the stickers with new ones, yet to be finished is my motor wich will be done in the next 2 weeks. still have a ways to go, but its started now!!


:p


EDIT: since Im not going to start a new thread im just going to continue this one

I have since sold all my short track tanks and a bunch of other minor parts, this is what it looked like before



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[steven 250sx]

looking good hurry up so we can see it in action with pictures

[SYKO]

it will be a month or so before its running or the first of the year. lol who am I kiddin!? it will be ready 30 mins before the first race of the season! lmfao!

[mdskinner731]

yaa.. thats what im talkin about... keep us informed.. more pics also im starting to like it

[factoryX]

I was wonder why you don't put a cr 500 in there for flat tracking? lol

[chris200x]

I spy a tri z in the back ground there.. who dat? and what freaky color is that frame?:confused:

Yours aint lookin too bad either! :naughty:

[SYKO]

I was wonder why you don't put a cr 500 in there for flat tracking? lol


becouse to keep the class all together I dont want to go big bore, and chriss thats My freind Dereck who will be racing that Z next year in flat track, the color on the frame is some wierd tangerine gold, that sucks!! he thought it would look good I told him it sucked and to paint it yellow or else!

[chris200x]

I thought it was that chrome illusion stuff that chages color depending on what angle you see it at. come to think of it.. that would be pretty cool!

What are you doing to the motor?

[SYKO]

the tri-z motor? is getting all new bearings and seals the trans needs a few parts, and the whole thing is getting ported to the max by my engine builder, piped and carbed, shoudl be potent! just worried about the clutch situation right now (baskets)

[chris200x]

well actually I was wondering about your R motor. you sent it out to be rebuilt?

Dont wanna turn this honda thread into a yamaha discussion.. but I think cory is making baskits for the z pretty soon.

[NINJA]

That's a sweetazz frame syko!

[SYKO]

well actually I was wondering about your R motor. you sent it out to be rebuilt?

Dont wanna turn this honda thread into a yamaha discussion.. but I think cory is making baskits for the z pretty soon.

oh yea my motor is fresh from top to bottome got some serious sickly porting done to it as well and when I mean fresh EVERYTHING has been replaced!! except the gears! Yea im hoping he will jump on those tri-z baskets soon!!

oh yea thanx NINJA!!!

[james9r9r]

Ok did you use house of color spray paint or did you use house of color with a compressor and paint gun ?

[SYKO]

spray gun... I do custom paint jobs, no fizz can here freind

[james9r9r]

I want to paint my frame and have it look professional and good but also, do I have to buy a $3,000 paint gun and compressor ?

[SYKO]

you can do it with some practice with a cheap 50 dollar gun and a 100 dollar compressor, but if you mess up with kandy paint then your out some bucks.

[james9r9r]

I love your paint work...

Can I just use a big air compressor that I have here ?

and then buy a spray gun



and will it turn out good ?

[torker]

James: Just have it done by a pro...It will look just the way you want and you'll save yourself a lot of work and pro'lly some bucks too. Just my humble opinion.
Been there, done that!
But then again, we just like to do stuff...

And Sykolincoln, that R is looking good, Keep it up and keep the pics coming!!!
I just love Flattrackers. Something about being low, wide and mean.

TORKER.

[Huffa]

Looking good sykolincoln but I think it would really look sharp with black shrouds and tank, being that you have black fenders. The shrouds you could paint but there is no such thing as a black plastic tank for your R , is there ?

[SYKO]

there is but I like the red tank, unless someone wants to trade there black short track tank for my red short track tank, im game for that, except im keeping my shrouds

[SYKO]

picked up my machine from Southern Machine today, I had some cuting and welding done to my nerf bars to make them fit better to my machine, awesome work! this is also the place that makes my 10 inch front wheels!

also my engine builder called me today and said my engine is DONE, now all I need is my rear shock back and im ready!



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[1upfront]

Thats gonna be one sweet azz mofo!!!

[Billy Golightly]

Lookin good man!

[Bryan Raffa]

I like that idea.. Im gonna be lookin at mine now tomorrow...

[200x Basket]

i like the nerfs but they need some silver PC

[SYKO]

no pc, the way I race, I will scar them up on the first lap, I take no prisners when I race! ask billy! or better yet ask the other guy! lol!

[scrawny]

looking good!!

ever weigh the difference between the steel "era" swingarm and the newer cast aluminum 450R one? i bet its quite a bit ;)

[SYKO]

actually the aluminum one is barely lighter then the old steal one, as its thick!

[evand]

looking good man, love the color of the frame!

[Mosh]

Looking good.I like the frame color.
Get that part up here that you need done!

[money89tractors]

I spy a 3WW sticker!!

Nice lookin trike so far, love the colors.

-Phil

[iamschme]

thats a sweet lookin paint syko, bet its blinding in the sun light. once the plastics and tank are on it should really be hard to miss on the track.

[Aka_am]

What nerfbars where those from originally>?

[250rfreak]

400ex aka am they are 400ex tusk nerfs

[Aka_am]

Thank you! That's what I figured they where but i wasn't for sure.

[SYKO]

OK since im no longer racing any more, I got to have somethig to ride right? well im tired of bogarting my fiance's blaster so I finaly decided to put my 250R back together

first things first I had to have off road tires.. no biggie I got some 20x11x9 fast trackers for the rear and a 22x7x10 bear tracker for the front

lifted the forks back up

added a 400ex rear shock wich feels great!

I have no choice but to keep the nerfs even though I really dont like them for off roading

remember my frame is still 2 inches longer, but now I have to modd it again I need to add some bracing so it will be stronger becouse instead of going in circles it will most likely be going in circles in the air, through trees, up hills... etc...etc...

I need of course a few extra parts for this machine wich im trying to get going by OCT 18 so I can ride it again

this is how it looks as of RIGHT NOW!




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/000_02621.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/000_02641.jpg


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http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/000_02671.jpg




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/000_02712.jpg






there are a few things still in the works.. the frame isnt going to stay candy red any more its going another color I got The mosh's doing a seat for me, I will hopefully have it all together the way I plan on keeping it by the end of the year.

[fla 2-stroke]

damn al.you do great work.I need some paint work done on my truck and one my jet skis.we have to make a deal.

[SYKO]

thanx Curt!! I cant wait to have a rider again! its been to long! when I get done with this is will look like no other! TRUST ME!

[edog]

You need to paint it those cool 350X colors.:D

[Brockey]

You need to paint it those cool 350X colors.:D

ROFLMAO
Ouch that one was good edog. I am sure Skylo will have a sweet machine when done.

[SYKO]

You need to paint it those cool 350X colors.:D



whatever color I decide you can damn sure bet it will be with 10 million times better paint then you have ever used!:welcome:


:w00t:

[The Goat]

You need to paint it those cool 350X colors.:D

I'm afraid my X still looks better in the sun that your R does in the garage buddy.

Though I will be having it powdercoated a slightly brighter shade of green in the near future.

[SYKO]

lmfao!! brighter?! diiizzaaammm!!! is that the sun rising in the distance?.....nope! thats Goat comming over a hill!

[atctim]

Alan - hurry up and buy my 4 gallon desert tank for your 250R. That red tank with black fenders is killing me. You need it to match Hombre. My desert tank is black!!!!

[SYKO]

I know I wanted it remember? geez im broke like a joke right now! send it to me on good favor! lol!!

[edog]

I'm afraid my X still looks better in the sun that your R does in the garage buddy.

Though I will be having it powdercoated a slightly brighter shade of green in the near future.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mosh]

It is a shame you have to change that paint on the frame.That stuff is awesome!!!

As far as the nerf bars...Did you ever think of taking a saw to them and just leaving the pegs bolted up? That would be good... no?

[SYKO]

I thought about that, but nerfs arnt cheap and I would rather be able to use them, then just junk them. Plus now all the places we ride dont have to many stumped up trails any more so snaggin on them wont be a problem, im more worried about the extended axle hitting stuff then the nerf bars now.

as for the paint, somehting like that is no problem for me of course, I miss the days when my 250R was just black with a red frame and some smaller red parts.




sorry the pics are chopped but I dont have any other pics unless someone else took some


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those where the days there.:w00t:

[SYKO]

well had like half a second free time today so I decided to finaly make some parts fit,

first shave down the poly bushings in the 450R swinger so it would fit into the engine/frame area

trim the rear fenders to fit above the heel guards

put in my short springs in the fork finally

and just piddled around on it adding and taking off parts as needed

nothing it tightend down yet just stuck on for the time being.





http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_0432.jpg



front tire size



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_0433.jpg



damn this beast is wide!!!!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_0435.jpg




and tall!!! this thing is going to be a handfull!




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_0436.jpg




here is the difference over stock, my subframe is extended 2 inches longer to better suit my riding style so the seat pan and seat will have to be modded as well.. this seat right here is just my bobo seat the mosh's have my secrete seat:naughty:




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_0434.jpg



thats it for now!:beer

[edog]

What size topend are you using?

[SYKO]

oh I took off my racing top end and put back on my 85 top end, its only 20 over with a few little mods... nothing spectacular.. but good enough I won three races and kept everyone playing catch up!

I may spring for a ESR big bore kit next year I dont know yet

[Andrew_250R]

what are you planning on doing for a air filter now that the 450R shock is in there?

[SYKO]

Oh I have a custom tube that leeds to a open element K&N... I havnt had an air box on this thing in years.. I plan though to build a aluminum box after a while, just got to get around to doign that.

[longbedGTs]

Everything looks good except those nerf bars. :beer

[SYKO]

Everything looks good except those nerf bars. :beer

well ya know what they say about opinions....... everyone has one...:beer

[200x newby]

what kind of pipe is that? and did you have to modify the frame the clear the 450r shock resivore? i had to on mine.

[Saul]

ONE SICK TRIKE!! Congrats!! Cant wait to see it all finished!

[SYKO]

what kind of pipe is that? and did you have to modify the frame the clear the 450r shock resivore? i had to on mine.


the crazy pipe on my original pics? its a backyard hack job from a husky 250 bike

I have a 400ex rear shock and I had to trim a bit of the down toube to fit... no biggie

[fire1]

did you use the 250r shock linkage or the 450r i have got the 450r swing arm installed on my 250r with no problem.i have a just rebuilt 250r shock i was wanting to use.i have it mocked with with the 250r linkage and looks like it all will work.just wanting to know what you tried.

[atcman77]

did you use the 250r shock linkage or the 450r i have got the 450r swing arm installed on my 250r with no problem.i have a just rebuilt 250r shock i was wanting to use.i have it mocked with with the 250r linkage and looks like it all will work.just wanting to know what you tried.

I done a 07 450R swingarm swap on an 85 model R and run into problems trying to re-install the 250R linkage... You might want to check your own set-up but the R linkage will hit the swingarm well before the suspension ever bottoms out. With it mocked up on my build I only had around 3 inches of rear suspension travel and then it would hit... Ended up using the 450R linkage with an adjustable strut and a 300EX shock... The 450R shock will work but it is one rough ride for a 200 pound person!!

[SYKO]

nope I have no problems.. with my custom adjustable link and 400ex shock along with the fact that I remounted the under linkage that mounts to the frame in a slightly rear ward mount (all redone) it goes through fu suspension travel easily and dosnt get close to anything.

[SYKO]

not a whole lot of progress money has been tight so I only got a few things... been doing some horse trading and that has moved things along.. I wil show a few pics of new stuff for now untill I complet the whole trike and show full finished pics then

heres my motor making a good paperwiehgt right now.. I still need to get a new wrist pin bearing new rings and circlips then tighten every thing down and hop it runs! lol

also got a sweet package in the mail from the HEYRONRACING! the man him self sweet stuff! thanx Ronnie!!:beer



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[SYKO]

Thanx to Itrike I got my new front tire in today!!:w00t: :beer looks great! I bet it handles awesome! I cant wait to pic up my wheels this weekend for my R that way it can be a roller again!



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[SYKO]

well a deal was struck some parts were shipped back and forth across the country and I ended up with a new heart of my 85!





http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/100_1621.jpg

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YAMAHONDAMAN


now i need to clean it up and getting it looking all pretty!

the 85 is back to roller status ready for a quick trip into northern FL for the frankenstien treatment

[NewfieBish]

is that 500 motor ready to just bolt in? how hard is it to find a motor like that?

[SYKO]

its not ready to bolt in, not hard to find a motor just got to keep your eyes open and keep up with good members and good deals!

[NewfieBish]

im defenitely havin a 500 next year.. 250's are nuts, but it leaves ya thinkin! haha loves the stroker racers though man, so what is that motor you got, is it from a cr500 and what year?

[SYKO]

well I would have to let the old owner chime in and tell all its secrets.

[The Goat]

you son of a b.... That is all.

Hmmm. But i know other things about this project. It's about time considering you sold your two bikes to us so you could build this thing.

Hmm... So it has more than 60hp? Porting? Or punched out to 580?

Either way, don't kill yourself.

[SYKO]

Yea after a long time I finaly got to this point, its not punched out does have the long rod later crank conversion, hence the spacer plate on the cylinder, but it does have some serious porting done to it... I think the last owner said 89mph in 3rd? and it was geared low? sounds like it can tote its weight well enough!

[bad350]

what kind of tire is that, looks sharp

[SYKO]

dunlop kt 151 22x7x11

a bit lower then the old style tires cant wait to use it!

[SYKO]

been trolling away in hakensteins lair down in north fl for the last two days on my project

in the operating device!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_1698.jpg

starting surgery


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_1699.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_1700.jpg

making trick custom parts like insane madmen!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_1701.jpg

here is an EDOG veiw of the same part

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20riding%20and%20racing/100_1702.jpg





OK hit a minor snag... WTF is up with the out put shaft? why is it 12 spline over the regular 6 spline like other cr500's??? help?! inquiring minds want to know!



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any help on this?






:welcome:

[factoryX]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Honda-CR500-CR-500-Front-Sprocket_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el 1116QQitemZ300199970382QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5f Accessories

[SYKO]

yea im a tool apparently, so the 87 up had a 12 spline shaft i supose... ok

[WIkid500]

Syko that going to be one hell of a beast when you are done. Lookin good! Keep us updated on the project!

[SYKO]

its been a long time in the making! thats for sure.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

That looks sweet!

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12830Custom.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12831Custom.jpg


:lol: :lol:


Heres what I'm considering doing on Syko's 500R:


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12839Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12852Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12851Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12845Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12844Custom.jpg


This would pretty much totaly eliminate the need for notching and putting the angle iron in to the fill the original frame cross member. I got a way doing it like that on my 500R, but its a flat tracker only. Syko's a big ole dude as you can see and I know hes going to be POUNDING on this thing so its got to be extra tough. Him and I are talking and we'll see what route we end going on it. In the bottom of the bent piece of tube I'd either use another piece of tube to run a gusset across to fill the bottom, or use a piece of plate and box it in sort of. Tabs would be welded on to the back and have the shock linkage mount end up being in the exact same location it is right now. The positioning in the pictures is of course just to get an idea. If the other original cross member is cut out it will fit down in there and be moved further ahead, as far as I can without having to notch it any to fit around the motor or the shock linkage itself.

[SYKO]

looks good, I say chop away!

[chris200x]

wtf is wrong with you?:rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That pic cracked me up! LMAO!!!!:lock:

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12873Custom.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12874Custom.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12879Custom.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC12884Custom.jpg


Hand fitting that tube has been/is a pain in the ass to get it to fit right. If theres any gap at all it will weld together like ass so Its very time consuming to file the high places down and get everything where it fits good and tight. I need to get a chain and sprocket on it to check how that tube will lay for sure but it appears like its going to work out really well, and look pretty sweet too.

[honda250sx]

Alan thank you for providing me with my new desktop backround!

[SYKO]

Alan thank you for providing me with my new desktop backround!


chris200x- wtf is wrong with you?

That pic cracked me up! LMAO!!!!


hell you think thats funny? im just acting normal!:welcome: :lol: :naughty:






:crazy:

[honda250sx]

I have spent enough time here now to know that Alan. Just another day in the neighborhood.

[The Goat]

"dude you killed a rabbit just now!"

:looks at fur on tire: "NO, it was already dead..."

looks like it's coming together...I've always been curious, what's the strength of these welded frames compared to the stock frame?

[SYKO]

The Goat ,dude you killed a rabbit just now!"

:looks at fur on tire: "NO, it was already dead..."






:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

poor little bun bun.... LMFAO!!


if welded correctly any frame is just as strong as original if not stronger

hopefully by next week sometime the frame mods will be complete, then its a rough put together to test it out before full breakdown for paint and spit.:twisted:

[sand slinger]

Damn man that looks great. I wish You lived closer to California. Watching your progress is great motivation for me and all the pictures are really going to help me. Only difference is that it seems you guys just started the project and mine has been cut up for months now. I guess I need to buy a pipe bender.

[200x newby]

Looks to be a nice project syko! looks like me and you are the only 2 crazy mother F'ers to run a -1 swinger on a 500r!

[Billy Golightly]

Damn man that looks great. I wish You lived closer to California. Watching your progress is great motivation for me and all the pictures are really going to help me. Only difference is that it seems you guys just started the project and mine has been cut up for months now. I guess I need to buy a pipe bender.

The bender with the applicable dies really does make or break how some of these fab projects like this are done. It truly adds a whole new level of professional "factory" look to em.

[SYKO]

Looks to be a nice project syko! looks like me and you are the only 2 crazy mother F'ers to run a -1 swinger on a 500r!



to short of swingers + 500cc 2 strokes + three wheeler

go hand and hand like


peanut butter and pickles samichez!!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/crap/1.jpg



ITS AWESOME!!!


:w00t:

[NOS_350X]

Hmm intresting. You eastern boyz dont mess around.

I fogot to send the other stuff i got for ya. HMM post office hasnt closed yet.

51.50HP at the wheels in 3rd gear at 89mph in the quad chassis also a stingy dyno. thats the 5th highest number that dyno has ever put out from a quad. Drag banshees normaly run in the high 40's.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/NOS_350x/S5031434.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/NOS_350x/S5031436.jpg

After we dynoed it the next day i rod it about 3 minutes of riding it the crank went, uppon tearing it appart the piston skirt was broke to. So it got a new piston, bore and long rod crank. It really makes me think what would it have done if everything was good.

[NOS_350X]

I shipped the pipe, Spare cyl, and a few other things...

They should help keep you clean and std free when you rape everyone with my engine.

[SYKO]

Rape!! Yessssss!!!!

[SYKO]

no major advances in anything yet, waiting on a few parts to arrive so we can set the motor exactly where it needs to be to finish up the frame work, also got some more custom plans for theframe as well.

ordered a set of these the other night for the forks, got them cheap enought so I went for it, they are 98 KTM 250 exc fork guards, since that modle bike has conventional forks just like the 250R's I wanted a little updated look to the forks then the old style fork boots.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/ktmforkguards.jpg




also got a few ideas about the forks as well, only me and billy know about that idea though! I may jump head first into that one! warning it will be trick as hell though!

[sand slinger]

Every day I am waiting on the progress. I cant wait to see how you guys end up making your suspension link mount. When you are finished I am going to show my fabricator the pictures of different ways you guys have made the mount and let him decide the best way to do it. Of the ones I have seen on here the curved round tube seems like it will be the strongest, but will it clear the engine?

[SYKO]

yes everything will clear, we got a few other frame mods instore for it as well, it will be a wicked looker when complete, hopefully some more cuts and some more welding will be done this week.

[Billy Golightly]

It'll clear the motor for sure :) What I've been worried about was wether it would clear the chain slack, because of how the bend in it is. We didn't have a sprocket to put on it to try it out and see....Syko's sent me back home Sat with an old worn out 200x sprocket, and we tried to chuck it up in the lathe here to bore the center out where it'd fit over his sprocket shaft but the thing was hardned like a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro and ate 2 carbine boring bar inserts before it was done, even AFTER I heated it up to red hot 3 different times and let it cool to try and take the hardness out of it. I'll be checking out the chain alignment, making the alignment bushing for the swingarm and hopefully getting the head stay mount done tomorrow...I got a group of riders (Like Creamer, Gibson, Natalie, and Downen :)) coming to my track tomorrow so I might not get to do all of that.

[Billy Golightly]

A little bit slow going...but here it is at the moment. Took a long time to get that spacer bushing made without having a battery in my digital calipers :rolleyes: The motor is siting in the frame and has finally got the chain alignment setup right. Syko has a modified TRX450R swingarm that made getting the chain alignment a little bit more difficult since its slightly different then the regular 250R swinger.

The motor is hanging WAY low, you can see how much exactly in the last picture, but that is how much room we gained by doing that linkage bar that way with the bend. It has been tacked into place now and As soon as the headstay brackets are done I'll go back and finish weld it in. The chain is pretty close to slapping the linkage bar, but it will clear even when its unloaded all the way like it is now even up to a 14 tooth sprocket. A bigger one could be run without much issue, it'd just need a slight little indentation there. You can also see that when the motor is lifted back up to the correct level height there will be plenty of room around the shifting shaft which was an area of issue when I did mine with the angle iron setup.

I've also got a cardboard template cut for nice little gusset to go down in the bottom of that linkage bar that will fit sweet.

Its cold as trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro over at the shop right now but I Might go back over and finish up those head stay brackets tonight.

[The Goat]

I want a 500 so0000 BAD...damnit

nice looking work there billy, I'll get you those pics soon, I've been stuck at work and school for 19 hours a day the last few days.

[SYKO]

I want a 500 so0000 BAD...damnit

nice looking work there billy, I'll get you those pics soon, I've been stuck at work and school for 19 hours a day the last few days.



naaa naa naaa naaaaa naaaaa:p

[The Goat]

oooooh you big mother ....

I was all set to buy one and I got hit with a puppy as a present, had to get new tires, a tuneup, alignment, and brakes all on the same damned day. so kiss 1200 of that stash goodbye.

one day... I'll get it.

[jeffatc250r]

Hey billy. I just used the stock 250r head stay brackets in mine, they work perfectly. I hung the motor off of them, stuck the swingarm bolt through and built the frame rails and the rest of the motor mounts from there. Might save you a little time and aggrivation lining things up.

[SYKO]

FMF fatty pipe showed up today along with the right sproket, need to get that crap down to billy now.

[Billy Golightly]

Head stay bracket is done. I didn't get anything else done because Doug Gust, John Natalie, Jeremy Lawson, Cody Gibson, and a few other guys decided they wanted to come ride over here for a couple hours :D


jeff, thats VERY Interesting about the 250R head stay brackets, i've never tried tht mainly because I never had a set to use :lol: But I'll check that out.


I can only work on it about a half a day tomorrow but I plan to finish welding in the bottom linkage tube, and getting all the tabs and associated bracketry for it figured out and maybe even welded onthere.

[Billy Golightly]

So heres a couple shots of the linkage tabs tacked into place. THe motor has to come back out for this to be finish welded. Also a picture of my headstay bracket, and a gusset I'm going to weld into the bottom of that linkage tube. The brackets for the linkage bolt itself are also going to have some gussets cut and welded into it on both sides sort of a triangle shape to brace it from the inside between the two and not just from the outsides like it is now. Nice and plenty enough room to get the shifter on and off around it too.

Looks pretty sweet doesnt it!

[SYKO]

that looks good and tough as hell man! hey you forgot the chain roller here! I may bring it down monday or something we'll see.

[Billy Golightly]

Doh!

That subframe mod we were talking about will get started soon :)

[Billy Golightly]

S'more updates for you guys. I've been really slow to get much stuff done on this thing at one time, I've got so much stuff going on at the moment. Lots of Pro riders down for winter right now and I try not to miss out on to many chances to meet and hang out with them in addition to still trying to do all the prep work and stuff for my track hearing come up next Thursday night. Hopefully sometime or another I'll get a nice full day I can actually work on it and get a bunch of stuff banged out on it. Now that the linkage bar and its tabs are finish welded on, I've got to cap off the holes left from the original engine cradle tubes, and then it'll be time to get those bent up and fitted in a long with the bottom motor mount.

I also switched over to a 1/16th Green band tungsten for the welding from the 3/32 I normally run and I feel like I got *much* better results with that than what I had. So anyways, heres some :pics:


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Frame1.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Frame2.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Frame3.jpg

Just some nice overview shots of how the new circular linkage bar tube fits in the frame and how it looks. You can see the tab placement and the angle of it better in some of the pictures. It really does looks slick in person and its kinda to bad it'll be covered up all the time :lol:


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Linkagebarandtabs1.jpg

This is a little bit more of a closeup of the linkage bar and the tabs. You can see some of the weld beads on the sides where it connects to the frame. I do plan on adding some additional gussets when the engine cradle rails are on it just as a safety pre-caution but I wouldn't hesitate riding it all the way it is right now and I think its actually VERY tough the way that it is.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Linkagebarandtabs2.jpg

Another closeup of the tabs. You can also see where I added on the little flat washer type pieces to re-inforce the holes on the tabs to keep them from being potentially being wollered out oval shaped from the constant back and fourth forces it will have applied to it.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Weldcloseup.jpg

And heres just a nice close up of the weld bead on the left side where the linkage bar attaches back into the original part of the frame. Got a pretty nice uniform, flat, and narrow bead which is what I'm looking for :)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/Weldcloseup2.jpg

And the last one. This one shows the weld bead on the right side where the linkage bar attaches, and also gets a nice shot of what the top bead for the linkage tabs look like.

[SYKO]

that looks awesome man!!

[Billy Golightly]

Ya like that huh? Kinda got me itchin to try building a whole frame :naughty:

[oldsking86]

Very slick welds billy, looks real nice.. ha just cause yall got 500's doesn't mean i'm scared though haha

[250rfan]

Looking good Billy!!

[SYKO]

Very slick welds billy, looks real nice.. ha just cause yall got 500's doesn't mean i'm scared though haha



ya gotta ride to even have the chance to be scared!! lol!:welcome:

[oldsking86]

HA! it's because mine is in pieces now waiting for PC and TLC but I'll be ready again

[jeffatc250r]

Looks good! That should be bomb-proof.

[250rfan]

Any progress here guys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:wondering

[SYKO]

naw billys got some important things going on right now, so its chillin lika villan, the mosh's have my seat pan so I dont have a seat for it anyway its all good.

[sand slinger]

Whats going on guys. Did you lose your steam. I am paitently waiting.

[Billy Golightly]

I've had the aftermath of my zoning hearing for my track permit getting denied to deal with...I'll be getting back on this fairly soon and will post my progress when I do.

[NOS_350X]

Syco, Got that mount, If i wasnt going to the supercross race i would be riding it this weekend.

[SYKO]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/el_boxer/mccoyDeadThread.jpg

[The Goat]

That's not logical.

[250rfan]

Any update guys?

[Billy Golightly]

The engine cradle tubing is bent. Waiting to be final fitted and welded, and then I'll get onto the 2 motor mounts and pipe.

[NOS_350X]

Billy how is that pipe going to work?? its got a really diffrent bend from normal 500 pipes. it dosent hug the tank nearly as much. Will that make things easyer?

[SYKO]

hopefully billy will have the majority of the frame work welded up this week, I may shoot down there saturday and do some of my own work on some of the parts to get it together somewhat to finish. theres going to be a few differnt things done to it then most builds I can tell you this much! And I can guarenty (sp?) that NO other 500 build will be any where close to looking like this machine when done!

[Billy Golightly]

Nos I haven't really paid a whole lot of attention to the pipe yet. I did notice that its the newer style 89+. Hopefully it wont need much for mods to fit, but we'll just have to wait and see.

[Billy Golightly]

Heres a couple of updated pictures. Pretty much ready to set the motor back in it and get everything setup for the 2 final motor mounts.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13098-Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13092Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13073Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13071Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13082-Custom.jpg

[Billy Golightly]

The second picture is deceiving, its just the angle I was standing and the fact it wasnt setting level in my chassis holder. The cradle tube was bent up in-house by me this time. It is 1 1/8th Chromoly 4130 tubing, .083 wall thickness. Welded using 1/16th Greenband tungsten and 1/16th ER702-S (I think thats it) filler rod. Camera was having a hard time with closeups, I'll try and get some tomorrow when the lighting is better.

[SYKO]

LIES... that metal tubing you got looks like spray painted conduit!!! my machines going to fold in on itself! you want to kill me?























































naw man shyts tyt yo!

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13107Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13108Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13109Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13110Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13112Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13114Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13119Custom.jpg

[SYKO]

hey! whered my trick oil drain plug go? you betta not have lost that!!

[jeffatc250r]

Lookin good! I like the new oil plug better :lol:

[Jason Hall]

Looks good guys, Nice welds Billy :beer

Syko, what are you useing this bike for? Everyday riding, jumping, flat track? You might wanna take that spring off the shock to see If the 250r linkage hits the inside of the 450r swinger before the shock hits bottom.

[Billy Golightly]

That chromoly really doesn't like being melted in with that old trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro the Honda frames are made out of, but it melts together with itself like true butter.

[SYKO]

dont worry jason I have checked the full stroke of the suspension travel, and its not hitting no wear plus its sprung like a locamotive! just ask billy! lol

[Billy Golightly]

Yeah...it actually needs to be softened up a bit so theres atleast a little bit of sag in it. It'll ride a lot better in the small rough stuff that way.

[TexFest]

That's a sweet project

Billy you sure are a serious madman when it comes to fab work.

[Billy Golightly]

Thanks Man, I try anyways.


I'm throwing around the idea of putting one of these (500R conversion frames) on ebay, with a TITLE, and see what might happen. Some of the guys out west that have a hard time getting titles for the sand country riding might appreciate having a fully titled ATC500R machine...




Jason, I think syko's main plan is just to use it as an all arounder. I've increased the wall thickness of the tubing from what I had used on my flat tracker which was .065 to the .083 for this machine. I'm also going to put in some additional gussets and will somehow utilize the front motor mount under the exhaust port which I left off of mine. Alans a big dude and I want this thing to hold up to even him pounding on it.

[The Goat]

alan is the only person who managed to start my 350x when I first got it....

pulling it at 40mph and dropping it into gear, it still had to roll for 500 feet or so before it would fire.

he did it in 7 kicks or so. lol.


Looking really good billy... get really good with that tubing bender and start making chromoly frames?

[Jason Hall]

Billy When I modded the frame on Atctims / 3leggeddog's 500 I used the front motor mount to help reinforce the splice In the 2 front tube's. That bike also had a skid plate for more strength. I know what you mean, I seem to overkill sometime's because I worry about stuff breaking :lol:

[NOS_350X]

I cant wait to see that Stroker 500 run in a trike. I know it hauled in a quad.

[TriMotoMan]

wow this build is awesome, i cant wait to see it when its all put back together

[SYKO]

I think right now were waiting on some more tubing to finish up some "other" frame mods, I think once we get that all we need to do is mock up the pipe and put a few new mounting tabs in and its ready for a test fire.. NOS what type of fuel were you using? I think you saif VP and maxima927 right?

[NOS_350X]

Yes maxima, with C12,

110 should be fine,

I also ran av, mixxed with 91
3 gal av, 2 gal 91

Suprizingly those 2 (c12 and the mix) required the same jetting. I belive the jetting on a 41.5pwk 178main, 62 pilot, at sea level.

[Billy Golightly]

I'm gonna get the tubing to finish up the subframe this week. The front motor mount has been a bit tricky to figure and do. I left that part off on mine and figuring out exactly how I wanted it has taken a little time, and for some reason I couldn't find anyone with a freakin 8x1.25 tap here in town for like 2 days, ridiculous!

[1BFC]

Hey Billy,

Were you looking for an M8x1.25 Tap still? If so, I can bring my tap/die set with me in a couple weeks....Not sure if you can postpone working on the part that needs the tap that long though.

Anyway, just throwing that out there. Let me know whenever!

[SYKO]

I think we got that figured out a while back homie! but thanx for the help! HEY BILLY POST SOME DAMN PICS ALLREADY!! IM ABOUT TO FREAK!

[SYKO]

hey! if I was holding my breath I would have been dead along time ago!!!! lmfao!!

[Billy Golightly]

Updates incoming...

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13136Custom.jpg

These are the threaded bushings that will be welded into the frame for one of the front motor mounts to bolt into. You'll notice the one isn't exactly in the center of the frame...it does look weird, and I wish it was. The problem I was facing though was with the way the bend was in the frame, that one had to be in that position for the motor mount plate to stay somewhat in the same plane as the other. You'd think it would work just the opposite, but it doesnt.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13152Custom.jpg

Heres the ones that are sunken inside teh frame rail, welded permanently into place now. You can look across the exhaust flange to the other rail and see where the othersides pieces are going in. Those will actually be welded onto the exterior of the frame, pointed inside. Its odd how the motor mounts are casted on these CR500 engines, everything is offset.

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13160Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13161Custom.jpg

So heres just a couple pictures of the bottom cross rail and mounting tabs, plus the front mounts now that the motor is out of the way. I'm getting ready to go around and weld everything into place all the way around.


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13173Custom.jpg
Overview of the whole frame after I just finished welding it. Some closeups coming up next.


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13174Custom.jpg

Just another angle of pretty much the same thing. Just finished welding everything in


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13176Custom.jpg

Heres about the best overall closeup view I could get of the cross member TIGed in, and the bottom motor mount tabs as well. The look like their up pretty high, but thats about the only way it can be and still get the bolt in and out without a bunch of crap. Got some pretty nice consitent beads, and you can see the penetration through the backside of the tabs that shows it was fusing together well.

[Billy Golightly]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13178Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13182Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13184Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13185Custom.jpg
Showin off my weld beads... :lol: Next up will be a preview of the new subframe style the frame will sport.



http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13186Custom.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/syko500r/SDC13191Custom.jpg

And there they are. This was SYKOs idea, mostly for aesthetic purposes. He had already lengthened the sub frame how he liked it for his size, and he mentioned trying to do this for a little bit of an alternative look and style thats not really seen elsewhere. Routing the exhaust and muffler around it might end up being slightly challenging.




And....thats pretty much where I'm at right now. Finish up the subframe, and its ready to make a roller out of, start working on the exhaust.

[Louis Mielke]

Nice! Any more gussets on the bottom side of that frame? Also, are you guys at all worried that if it takes a hard hit to the tail of the subframe, IE looping it out that there may not be enough strength in the angle of the dangle to take the blow?

[Billy Golightly]

I do plan outside gussets from where the pro-peg mounts are to the cradle tubes. I'd like to do inside ones as well, but that is going to be tricky with the fitment of the motor down in there.

As far as the subframe, yes, I'm a little concerned about it. The biggest thing I think is how it might be able to twist. As far as just bending down, I think it'll be ok for that.

[SYKO]

I think........I think.......I just skeeted all over my keyboard!!



thats sickness X a million!!

[AutoXer]

Wow amazing work that this is going to be too nice to tear up........ or so nice your not going to ...... nope still not it...... hmmm what am I looking for????? WoW I can't wait to see that thing ripping it up!!!!!

[Billy Golightly]

Welp this is a roller now and pretty much waiting for syko to come down and us do up the exhaust on it.

[Russell 350X]

That looks like its gonna be AWSOME! Those a some freakin awsome welds Billy.

[plastikosmd]

nice welds, how do you contort yourself to make it look so even going around. do you flip the frame at all to weld from the top? very nice

[SYKO]

Welp this is a roller now and pretty much waiting for syko to come down and us do up the exhaust on it.


I may call you in a bit, my server for my internet service is underwater so I wont have net/phone/cable for maybe a week! I may swing down that way after lunch, but dunno just yet I will hit you up from the cell later.

[Billy Golightly]

Thanks guys. I wish I could find a way to do this for a living...I enjoy putting together and building stuff like this a lot. Therapeutic and relaxing actually, which is really hard for me to find now-a-days.

In most of the welding positions, I actually go about 3/4 of the way around the joints before I stop. Its when I get to the very bottom or wherever it is that I can't see ANYTHING that I stop and restart. The sides of the joints though and going around, with a little bit of practice, you learn to kind of track where your pool has been going around the joint, and you just kind of twist the tig torch around as you go and you can feed the filler rod in from the top and kind of carry it down to where you need. I've definitely gotten a lot better in the last year or two then I use to be, for sure. I've love to try a new inverter machine like a Dynasty or something and see how I done.

[plastikosmd]

ya i have the 200dx. I can only get it to look that good for 1/2 the weld. The other half, when i'm out of position looks like I welded it using my feet

[SYKO]

updates!

went down to the LAIR yesturday to mock up my pipe for my five oh oh

it was a intersting day to say the lease....(very iside JOKE) lol

so after nearly 12 hours.... me and billy mocked up my pipe....this is a temp pipe for now I will either buy a new one and mod it or contact a few companies and see if any are offerd any more.




only did 4 cuts on the pipe to make it work

89 FMF fatty


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck496.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck498.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck499.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck501.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck502.jpg

[1BFC]

Looking good bro! That thing is going to be a fricken hand full when you are done :acr :w00t:

:beer

-Russ

[NOS_350X]

Looks like that pipe fit fairly easily.

You owe me sucka.

[SYKO]

hard to see but that pipe dosnt have a whole bunch of clearence around the motor... but it has enough though... im happy with the fact that we managed to make it work with only 3 cuts to the pipe.

just wish the pipe was in just alittle bit better shape..but were trying to get EVERYTHING mocked up complete to fire it up and to ride some shake down runs to test everything out then its tear down time for paint and finishing.

[Red Rider]

Looking good guys! I've always loved how the 500 (and some 250) pipes wrap all around the left side of the engine, very sexy.

[SYKO]

Hey BillyBob I got a pipe headed your way!! hopefully it will be there in a few days!

[Billy Golightly]

Syko heres some pics of that Bills.

[Louis Mielke]

That pipe looks like it auta make good power!

[The Goat]

I was just looking...and if you were to wrap and then gusset where the new subframe is attached to the old portion...you could distribute that stress to entire portion of the frame rather that just that one point.

it's just something to think about.

It's looking great.

are you going to be running an airbox or no?

[SYKO]

an airbox will come last it will be a full aluminum with aluminum portion to the carb as well.

man billy I like that pipe!!! oooooweeee!! should run real good with that! im glad I lucked up on that bad boy!

[SYKO]

mocked u the bills pipe a bit better tonight im going to have to cut it alittle to make it work but no biggie! should make nice power!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck922.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck923.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck924.jpg

[NOS_350X]

Brings a tear to my eye seeing that motor. It was SOOO fast.

Ill also be the first to say this, I think that pipe is ugly. I hate the way it comes back.

[SYKO]

well I personaly love this pipe, and the fact that it was built for a 500 that wasnt in the motorcycle frame makes it all the better in my eyes it wont be modded much from its original form so its function should still be intact. its getting closer once I weld up the pipe and put on the hangers then its all down hill for a test!

[1BFC]

Hard to tell from the pictures...So I have a question.

Is the front wheel going to be able to hit the pipe when the suspension compresses fully? From the pictures, it appears that the pipe is protruding into an area that most pipes I've seen stay out of.

The pipe certainly appears different from others and I bet it does make a ton of power. Kind of a mix of out of frame and in frame design really.

[SYKO]

well I lucked up on the pipe off ebay it was built for a cr500 in a tecate4 chassis....so I knew it was going to be a tight wound pipe. It appears from the pics that the tire will be all over the pipe when the suspension compresses but it hugs the frame tightly and nearly full compress the tire dosnt get close to it, I should be in even better shape with the 22 inch tire installed later. I have to email the seller and see what kind of power this pipe made, but judging by the work put into building this pipe and the fact that they had bills pipes do it, it should be a wicked pipe.

[SYKO]

ok got the mounts and the stinger welded up on the pipe and fitted to the correct finished spot that its going to stay at, now I need to make the stinger for the silencer and put some pipe mount tabs on and get a few rubber exhaust mounts and the pipe will be finished all the way. Im happy with the way it turned out and to me it looks SIC!




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/Copyofmytruck966.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck968.jpg
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http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck974.jpg

[NOS_350X]

I wish i had the Trx250r here.

Im holding on the exhaust by a zip tie too. But mine is the FAT 1/2 ones, like what the cops use, THey dont melt as fast.

[300rman]

i agree, the FMF pipe was much better looking the way it came up the right side.


and i also afree, most 250's and the 500's have sexxy pipes.........
2 strokes have absolutely gorgeous exhaust pipes.....another reason to ride a 2 stroke!

[Billy Golightly]

I think that thing looks sweet now that you turned it a little bit and it comes up a bit higher then it did.

[Autophysn]

WoW Guys! That was some great reading! I love the idea of dropping a 500 in a 250, but the info on all the mods it takes to do it is very priceless.
Billy, You do some great work and you are a great welder! Syko, That bike is gonna be some Psycho chit bro! Congrats so far! Can't wait to see it when she is done. Or his it a He? LOL! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0010.gif

[Billy Golightly]

Alan I worked on trying to fit that pro-circuit pipe I got a bit earlier this evening, not working out real well :( I might still be able to make it fit without sectioning it like a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro like I had to on the other one, but I'm not sure. it doesnt fit anything near how that FMF we worked on did.

[1BFC]

Be sure to hang on to these pipes you guys are cutting up...Going to need one for mine in the future! :naughty:

[SYKO]

Alan I worked on trying to fit that pro-circuit pipe I got a bit earlier this evening, not working out real well :( I might still be able to make it fit without sectioning it like a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro like I had to on the other one, but I'm not sure. it doesnt fit anything near how that FMF we worked on did.

mght have to pick you up an FMF or better yet just use that FMF and see how it runs!

[cr480r]

I like the fmf... the bills pipe looks like it was made for a quad... I an curious to hear they perform.. the fatty is known to work well with ported motors..

[200x Basket]

my FMF performs great and looks great. it only took two cuts not counting the stinger. i used a 180* mandrel bent pipe to make the bends in the stinger. I like to keep it simple.

i have removed the dings since these pics.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/LuvNStarGazn/3wheeler/2-1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/LuvNStarGazn/3wheeler/4.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/LuvNStarGazn/3wheeler/3.jpg

in action. it is not a drag pipe but it gets the job done :w00t:
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr98/Doc86R/LSOK%20Rampage%2009/MWTrikeRampage09048.jpg

[SYKO]

new forks for the trike....


be a bit as the tripples are being made to fit so... next pic of the forks will be on the trike


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck1135.jpg

[SYKO]

put some gusests in, jsut getting started ran out of sheilding gas my work on it some sunday.




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck1190.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck1192.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Nice :cool:

[cr500=3wheeler]

http://www.cpiracing.com/Products/Honda%20Exhaust/HCR5T/Default.aspx

and another option develops i sent an email but i havent gotten a response yet. i asked if it was for 500 in 250r frame or if it is for cr500 converted to a trike

[NOS_350X]

Chase(3wheelergod) over on 3wheeler.org works for CPI, thats his auction on ebay right now. You can go through him too.

[SYKO]

tore it down the other day in a rare free moment I had and started cleaning the frame up and getting it ready to finish the gussets so I can powder the frame. sometime later this week I should be able to get all the gussets in and other mods I plan on doing as well.





http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1603.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1604.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1605.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1606.jpg

[Russell 350X]

Looking good there man.

[Billy Golightly]

Lookin sweet dude! I wanna see that hoss together!

[SYKO]

yea me to!! the frame will be all done this weekend then im going to blast it up! im going to polish the frame as best I can so when its powderd its super smooth!

[SYKO]

is there lighting circuits avail for the 500 motor? just woundering.

[dcreel]

is there lighting circuits avail for the 500 motor? just woundering.

A friend of mine has a KX500 with a single Cibie headlight on it. He runs a Tecate stator and lighting coil. If I remember correctly Ricky Stator sold it.

[p500r]

is the 450r swingarm shorter?does the line up straight with the frame? cause onthe pic the rear end looked off centered

[SYKO]

yea its -1 over stock and it lines up perfect nothing is off centered trust me neither me or billy would allow something like that to happen.

[Red Rider]

is there lighting circuits avail for the 500 motor? just woundering.A simple internet search revealed these results. Everything is looking good so far guys. Nice fab work Billy!
http://www.servicehonda.com/parts/ignition.html

http://www.rickystator.com/pages/Honda_CR500_lighting_Coil.html

http://www.electrosport.com/products/product-detail-520.php

http://www.procycle.us/main/lightcoils.htm

[300rman]

Hmm intresting. Drag banshees normaly run in the high 40's.


A drag banshee in the high 40's??? thats one hell a stingy dyno, or he doesnt ever get a real banshee on that thing. its NOTHING for a shee to push out 60-70 HP.





I was all set to buy one and I got hit with a puppy as a present,

screw that......if anyone ever gives me a pet without prior discussing it with me, the gift-giver will be the proud new owner of a pet.

[SYKO]

well I got laid off so I have a bit of free time...unfortunatly Im out of argon so I cant finish weld anything so im just going along taking all the stuff in right now going to try to take it tomorow to my shop and use the big welder to finish this up.


cut and modded the propeg mount for 450R pegs that I cut apart

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1621.jpg

like a glove!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1622.jpg


started to modify the rear brake pedel... without my argon I stoped its close but no were near done


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1623.jpg




rear gussets added in


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1624.jpg

[Autophysn]

Sorry to hear that bro, good to see you keep your spirits up with a Trike

[SYKO]

well since ive had so much down time with no job and or working part time to just pay my bills I tinkered with my 500 with stuff I allready had on hand so here is a bit of an update:



I had the frame blasted by a freind of mine (free if you really wanted to know) I had to add a few more welded tabs and finish some welding after wards... since I dont have the money for PC now... I just happed to have some color left over from a job so I sprayed it up


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1794.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1793.jpg


oh dont worry thats just flash rust I whipped it all off before epoxy sealing it


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1795.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1797.jpg



then onto the color... I was going to make this a big surprise and wait till it was all finished to "unveil" it... but I dont have much to be proud of at this time so here it is!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1799.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1802.jpg



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1807.jpg



:beer

[SYKO]

here is is as a roller most everything is just barely tightend




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1808.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1810.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1809.jpg


its really close to being a runner, but still needs a few things those will have to wait untill I can afford them and take care of other business first... I jsut managed to get this far with what I had allready on hand.:idea:

[SYKO]

and here how it sits in my carport untill I get money:cry:




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/000_35141.jpg

[Yamaha_Rules69]

That looks sick for sure! That thing is going to ba a beast no doubt. Nice color choice, it really pops out at ya. Good work, and keep us posted, and dont forget to give us a ride report!

[Brockey]

Cool beans man, nice to just throw something together and it be sweet outta stuff you have kicking around. Question tho, what are those foot guards from. I like them. Any pics of them with a rear fender on?

[Erics350x]

I see you still haven't cleaned the slime off of the rear wheel from back when i was up there. lol

[300rman]

is there lighting circuits avail for the 500 motor? just woundering.

Bomb around on Bannedcr500riders.com, i believe some of the guys there can point you in the direction of a lighting coil.

also a CR250 ignition is knows to really wake these 500's up.

general consensus over on Banned is that the FMF and PC pipes dont really add more power over stock, they just change the where the power is. I'd run that bills pipe a little while and swap back and fourth to see which one makes the best power. my money's on the Bills.

OH, and get the Bills nickel-plated IF you decide to keep it on there, it will look killer.

[SYKO]

Cool beans man, nice to just throw something together and it be sweet outta stuff you have kicking around. Question tho, what are those foot guards from. I like them. Any pics of them with a rear fender on?



the heel guards are 450R along with the foot pegs, no fenders yet im still getting those produced may just slap some junkers on there to ride untill the new ones are made:D

[SYKO]

I see you still haven't cleaned the slime off of the rear wheel from back when i was up there. lol



yea I know!! I have powdercoated wheels... but cant afford to ship them back here!!! arrrggggg!!!!:mad:

[SYKO]

had a few minutes this morning before I had to leave so I made the midpipe silencer to headpipe connection.



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/000_35461.jpg

:p

[johnny's X]

Looking sweet syko. Glad to see you are still with us. Dont let the few idiots on here get under your skin.

[SYKO]

Looking sweet syko. Glad to see you are still with us. Dont let the few idiots on here get under your skin.



yea love the game and not the haters... dont worry... im not the type of person that you would want to get under my skin. :twisted:

[johnny's X]

I will be in Georgia next spring break. We are staying with my wifes uncle for two days while we travel to disney. I will find out were he lives and maybe we can get together.

[johnny's X]

Senoia Gerogia.

[SYKO]

I will be in Georgia next spring break. We are staying with my wifes uncle for two days while we travel to disney. I will find out were he lives and maybe we can get together.


that would be cool!



on the build... sucks I have nearly everything to make this beast run.... unfortunatly I cant even afford the gas and oil for this thing as it is:cry:

hopefully things will pan out soon and ill be riding this thing!!:naughty:

[johnny's X]

yeah get it done so I can take it for a whip!

[NewfieBish]

that is gonna be off the HOOK :P

[Saleenster]

all these great looking fast 500R trikes...but your all out on the East Coast or Midwest....

Some very nice handy work in this build. :beer

[trikerooster]

You think you would take the paint resporator off. You look cool holding a paint gun!

[SYKO]

You think you would take the paint resporator off. You look cool holding a paint gun!



yea and that made alot of sense.....did your mom help you think that up?:wondering

[NOS_350X]

SOO, have you riden it yet? and what did you think?

[SYKO]

nope no ride! my electrical is in another state (deedadeee) the carb is only jetted for a 250 motor and I got no seat lol so im just being pateint I may actually go down to billys sunday and mess with it we will see.

[code200k]

any updates syko??

[SYKO]

any updates syko??



waiting on a few important things to button it up thats all:beer

hopefully as a christmass present to myself Ill take it for a ride!:w00t:

[Hurricane635]

Here are some pics of my act250/500R. If you want to see more go to http://s573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/Hurricane635/
If you have any questions, or comments feel free.

[tecat-z]

Beautiful machine Hurricane......Love the clean, somewhat unassuming look.:naughty: But under that pretty skin, and nicely done swingarm sits a monster. You've obviously done your homework well.:beer

[SYKO]

have room at my new job to park my 500 so I can tinker on break and lunch


so ive been takeling a few things

first got the kicker situated
I found out that the second gen R kicker will go on the 500 knuckle and with a few welding mods to both work great




tucks in nicely to the engine when not in use



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/11922.jpg




folds out nicely and wide




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/11923.jpg





and then kicks all the way down and clears the frame (just barely) and stops on the swinger bolt tab, I plan on welding a stop on the side of the frame, I will also take and put a brake peddel in to see how it clears wich from the judge of things should clear a stock peddle





http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/11924.jpg







so I kicked it over a few times and with this kicker on it I could get some serious kicks in so it should be fairly easy to start when needed.





also put my (in the mean time ) front wheel/hub/tire on DUNLOP kt 151 22x7x11 wich is VERY nice!!
cant wait to get my new wheels on there!!



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/11921.jpg



and got all my electronics mounted securely




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/11925.jpg




just pluggin away!

[taiterator]

Real nice work guys!!!!! Can't wait to see this thing finished up and ripping it up.

Cheers!

[TriQuad]

that things looking sweet, and your lucky its a cr500 cause i just finished my build with a xr500 and that 4 stroke takes up sooo much space. and thoes welds are amazing i wish mine were that good. sweet job!

[SYKO]

thaNX HOMIES! as it sits all the electrical and cooling system is run all I need is a seat to kinda button it up so me and Billy can finaly start it and tune it in........

[SYKO]

a long awaited update to this saga will be posted tomorow night! cant wait!

[1BFC]

Can't wait to see it bro! You've been working on it for a good while now. It's going to RIP!

[shortline10]

That thing looks like it'll make you pucker up when you crack that throttle LOL . Awesome build .

[SYKO]

well after many MANY moons a somewhat small but signifigant update: I GOT MY SEAT!!! im so freakin happy! and its sick! probably one of the last products from the moshes and it was well worth it! I love it, plus I needed it badly so I can button up the rest of the machine. The subframe is longer to better accomidate my massivness so in turn I made a longer seat... I didnt think trying to ride/tune a 500 would be a good idea without a seat plus a regular seat wouldnt even come close to fitting any more. Sorry for the cellphone pics ill post som high res pics tomorow night.




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00673.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00671.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00672.jpg








:crazy:

[Shorty]

cooool........

[SYKO]

well after many MANY moons a somewhat small but signifigant update: I GOT MY SEAT!!! im so freakin happy! and its sick! probably one of the last products from the moshes and it was well worth it! I love it, plus I needed it badly so I can button up the rest of the machine. The subframe is longer to better accomidate my massivness so in turn I made a longer seat... I didnt think trying to ride/tune a 500 would be a good idea without a seat plus a regular seat wouldnt even come close to fitting any more. Sorry for the cellphone pics ill post som high res pics tomorow night.




http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00673.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00671.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20parts/p_00672.jpg



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[portland250r]

very nice trike.
kill some 450's while your at it

[TexFest]

kickass for sure

[Rm250RF900R]

any updates?

[chavo80]

lookn sweet vato>wish i had a 500r trike.>nerf bars are cool.

[Shorty]

Any updates?

[SYKO]

just sitting my truck is down so I cant haul it to billy shouse to tune it in yet... maybe next weekend it may live.

[Shorty]

just sitting my truck is down so I cant haul it to billy shouse to tune it in yet... maybe next weekend it may live.

Cool.........Post a vid on youtube of it running...Please lol

[NOS_350X]

Any updates??