blaster mods

[Big red 200es]

I wand to mod my blaster.
The 240 kit L.A sleeve or vito's it is good or just mod the 200cc is better.

I want to pur reed valve but which one is better boysen or v-force.(maybe a boost bottle)

What carb to put on that thing.

I want to do some porting also.

Now I have an FMF fatty and a powercore2 silencer and 18inch tire(I dont have alot of top speed and I want more:mad: ).

Here a video of my blaster now http://youtube.com/watch?v=jdc4mKoA06E

Thanks Nick

[Ryan.]

www.projectblaster.com they have the BEST cylinders for Blasters... also one of the best pipes, check them out. there a ton better than vitos

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks but vito'S big bore it is better then L.A sleeve

[Big red 200es]

Maybe a crank stroker

[Ryan.]

ok thanks but vito'S big bore it is better then L.A sleeve

no, vitos is plain junk, and there cranks arnt that beefy

[lndy650]

vito's is far from junk unless you have the knowledge to understand a 2 stroke you shouldnt talk *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*

[lndy650]

vitos or la sleeve would be a good choice for a big bore imo vitos makes a little more power. the Toomey pipe is the best and a 36-38mm flatslide carb would work good. open up the reed cage exhaust, and exchange ports and raise your ports .030 with a cylinder spacer and cut the head accordingly.you can take a little extra off the head depending if you want to run race fuel or not.

[ATC70DUDE]

VITO's IS JUNK, You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing of dude!

Vito's does NON of thier own parts, they are built by the LOWEST BIDDER, yes, the lowest bidder, and then sold with phony HP. gains.
Be my guest if you are to stupid to do ANY research and want shabby parts on your ride! Vito's does not do any dyno runs on thier parts, they are just built and sold, try calling and asking for a tech to help you and you will see the light!

L.A. Sleeve builds ALL thier own stuff and they do a GREAT job. They ARE the best running 240 out there but the 270's will kill them!

Milled head (.070), PORT, (I mean raise the exhaust 2mm, widen it 1mm, raise all the transfer ports a mm at least, widen everthing you can and SMOOTH the exhaust port, glass beading gives the best atomization for the intake and transfer ports,) put a 38 flat on her, Reeds are about the same either way so no fuss there, and CPI has a KILLER blaster pipe if you want something with a little more rev than the toomey! You will have a hell of a runner at 200cc still. If you want to go big, skip the 240's and go 270 on alky!

[SYKO]

VITO's IS JUNK, You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing of dude!

Vito's does NON of thier own parts, they are built by the LOWEST BIDDER, yes, the lowest bidder, and then sold with phony HP. gains.
Be my guest if you are to stupid to do ANY research and want shabby parts on your ride! Vito's does not do any dyno runs on thier parts, they are just built and sold, try calling and asking for a tech to help you and you will see the light!

L.A. Sleeve builds ALL thier own stuff and they do a GREAT job. They ARE the best running 240 out there but the 270's will kill them!

Milled head (.070), PORT, (I mean raise the exhaust 2mm, widen it 1mm, raise all the transfer ports a mm at least, widen everthing you can and SMOOTH the exhaust port, glass beading gives the best atomization for the intake and transfer ports,) put a 38 flat on her, Reeds are about the same either way so no fuss there, and CPI has a KILLER blaster pipe if you want something with a little more rev than the toomey! You will have a hell of a runner at 200cc still. If you want to go big, skip the 240's and go 270 on alky!



STFU! vitos kicks ass! I got a vitos stroker crank thats been turning for 3 years in a blaster I built and its been run like HELL!
in fact today I ripped up a bunch of 400 sport quads on this little turd!
also its got more then just the crank as well!

[ATC70DUDE]

Hey, I 've seen Vito's run for years, I'm not saying they wont, they are just inferior parts, and I WONT run them on anything. If you choose to go ahead. Why do you think they have the cheapest cranks out there? What tolerances do they hold them to? Call and ask a little, do a little research, they cant answer a damn thing I asked them for years, that tells me about all I need to know!

Just look at the 85-86 lt250r, a pile of crap they call a motor but I've seen them run as reliable as anything out there! IMO Vito's crap is along the same lines.

[lndy650]

you acually think vitos dosent dyno their stuff??? what about the super stock pistons you think they cut the piston for better port timing and then sell them without any testing? by the way they are not made by the lowest bidder they are made by Wiseco.

[Ryan.]

you acually think vitos dosent dyno their stuff??? what about the super stock pistons you think they cut the piston for better port timing and then sell them without any testing? by the way they are not made by the lowest bidder they are made by Wiseco.

they machine all the "thick" part off making them more vanurable to shattering... i ran vitos, and had nothing but trouble from them. iv seen many vitos shatter and fry pistons...

[lndy650]

if your shattering and burning pistons check your piston to cylinder clearance its usually not the pistons fault i know tons of people who run or have ran vitos with great results including me...

[Big red 200es]

Did Put a big bore does make a good difference?
or Just mods the 200 is better.

[SYKO]

the big bore DOES make a difference, but a finaly tuned and ported stroker 200 is wicked as well. my GFs blaster has the vitos 3mm stroker, a 80 over bore no portwork boysen reeds FMF pipe ct silencer and a keihn 32mm honda carb with open airbox, this past weekend it was killing a piped 400ex and im 250lbs, not bad for a blaster, and its not even tuned in well. That stroker crank was the best mod Ive ever have done to this machine, it gave it alot more bottom end, the clutch is even slipping like hell in this thing and it rips! also you can add a tri-z axle for more width to it (use the tri-z brake hub as well)

[Big red 200es]

So I think I will keep my stock bore and put a hot rod stroker crank, ported, boysen reed valve, a 32mm carb like yours syko (It is a 250r carb), Uni air filter and keep my FMF pipe.

And the frame mods will come later because now I dont have a lot of cash for my blaster.

Thanks
Nick

[cody2]

ok thanks but vito'S big bore it is better then L.A sleeve

Vito's are garbage, i know Mike the lad around here who thought he was a big hot shot on his 240 vito's blaster recently got his ass handed to him by a piped and ported and all that 200cc blaster.

[Ryan.]

id say get project blasters 200 airasal cylinder, with a 4mm stroker crank and a 32 or 34mm carb. the cylinders have a aluminum sleeve thats nikisil coated and dissipates the heat alot better than the average iron sleeve

[cody2]

Project blaster makes real good parts, im not bashing Vito's to clear things up, but from what i heard, and performance wise they look like crap but if they run fine for you then good.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks guy

Now boyrsen or v-force reed?

[evand]

v-force all the way.


and i built a 240 blaster for a friend with a vito's kit, bike had a toomey pipe vito's kit v-forces, read spacer, boost botle. it was dead nuts with my piped and ported lt 250r. yes my bike was fresh and runing great.


i say vito' kicks ass:beer

[scooterroo]

project blaster is hands down the best when it comes to the blaster. i have been dealing with kurt and the guys a vcatv for sometime now. great guys, and they know their sh!t when it comes to the blaster. however, the VITO'S bigbore kit is also a great cylinder kit as well. of course you are going to get your 12 year old retards like atc70whatever his name is thinking he knows everything about anything, random strike!!, and have to bad mouth things they probablty never even used. vito's is the number one selling big bore kit for the blaster in the country, goes to say something about their parts i think. i have owned and have modified a few blasters, my current one is definately no slouch and i will line up against any 400cc fourstroke, and i even bang tires with the bigger 250 2 strokes on it. i have a complete Vito's cylinder kit on mine. the head has been shaved, i run an fmf fatty pipe and silencer, because i didnt like the phantom one i got from project blaster, i also run a 30mm carb right now, but will be slapping on a 34mm in a few weeks with v-force 3 reeds and cage. open airbox with outerwears and k&n filter, nology hotwire and coil, and a few other tweaks here and there. blasters are one hell of a fun quad to ride. and like i said, with the mods i have i have no problems running with the bigger 250 2 strokes on the local mx track, and have handed warriors, 300ex's 400ex's and even the z400's their pride when they got to the finish line cuz they couldnt keep up. i get alot of the, damn i thought that thing was a trx250r, and when i tell em its a blaster, they just stand there in awe.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/scooterroo/DSCF3084.jpg

"before the comments are made...yes there is no footpegs, lol. broke a bolt on the leftside, tapping and drilling and a nice new set with tipped up ends is going on it!!!"

[Big red 200es]

Thanks scooterroo You give me some good idea!! Like beat a 400 4stroke!! (Because all my friend said 2 stoke is crap)

Scooterroo do you have the sleeve big bore kit or all the cylinder and head kit ?
And does it have a difference between the sleeve kit and the big kit ?
Do you have the stock suspension, axle and tabs ?

Ps- You have a very good looking Blasty!!

[Big red 200es]

And Scooterroo do you run 18 inch tire or 20 inch?

[scooterroo]

20's up front on 10" rims, 18's on the back on 8"rims, 14/40 gearing for more top end speed, +3+1 ameristar a-arms with works shocks, +2 swinger with an 05 honda 450r rear shock, with a +4 adjustable g-force axle in a rad billet carrier with dual row bearings. i run the complete cylinder and head kit. was gonna go with the sleeve, but i have heard that sleeve jobs can be botched and the sometimes the porting is a hack job, but i am sure that only depends on who you send it to to get the sleeve done. do some research and i am sure you can find a reputable sleever to do it. frame was smoothened, meaning i cut all unneeded tabs off, like for the oil reservior, the healguard mounts, and whatever else i could cut and grind off with out hindering the bikes structural integrity. before winter i am going to be stripping it down again and having the frame gussetted to strengthen it up a bit more, jumping this thing is a riot, and i have been getting more and more airtime getting higher and higher with every jump on it. i tell yah the bike puts up with the abuse i put it thru, and i cant really complain at all.

[Big red 200es]

But I have only the cash for a crank stroker or a vito's big bore .(The 2 possibilities including v-force,bigger carb,poring) Which one of the 2 option will be a better choice ?

Thanks Nick

[SYKO]

off the batthe big bore will make you more power, but it works better with a larger carb and everything else, the stoker gives the little blasty some low down tourqe wich in my opinion is highly needed on that stingy motor, if you go stroker, you can take solice in the fact that the bottom end is fresh (new bearings and seals) and that later when you add a big bore top end it ill be all out, with a stroker and a big bore I think you acheive 250 status then. I wont ever put a big bore on my blaster, as I dont think it needs it.

[cody2]

Scooteroo your blaster looks sick, is that a carbon fiber hood? how much do those things go for, sick i want one

[lndy650]

deciding on a big bore or stroker depends on where you like your power. a stroker will give you sick bottom end but a big bore will make it a high rpm screamer

[Big red 200es]

Is not a mod question but what kind of oil I need to put in the botom end of a 2 stroke ? (I know its a dumb question but its my first 2 stroke except snowmobile)

Thanks Nick

[SYKO]

I use bellray gearsaver in my gf's blaster, it works well

also here is a vid of my GF's blaster with a worn out clutch hauling my ass up a vertical hillclimb over and over again



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJRL_9DTgT8


the mods done to this machine make it a strong quad

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks

ANd good video

[Big red 200es]

Now with the money I have I will buy V-force reed.

And I will keep my stock carb but my cousin is machinist so I can bore my carb.
Do you think is good to bore my carb ? How many mm I can get in the stock carb ?

Thanks
Nick

[SYKO]

just pic up a stock carb from a 83-84 atc 250r, its a great and cheap mod, thats what im running on mine. that little blaster carb is junk even if you gold plate it and bore it out to 40mm its still junk.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks.

How many mm is a 83-84 atc 250r carb ?

Nick

[Big red 200es]

Here in quebec atc 250r parts is rare and on ebay I see only one atc 250r carb.

So if I dont find one do you think a yz 125 carb will be good ?

Here is the v-force I will buy: http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-V-FORCE-DELTA-3-REED-VALVES-CAGE-YAMAHA-BLASTER_W0QQitemZ200234558274QQihZ010QQcategoryZ43 979QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

He came with the manifold and I want the carb to fit this.

Thanks

I need some carb idea I very dont know what buy.

[Big red 200es]

Now I have a little problem with my clutch.
When I am in neutral and I pull the clutch and shift to first the blaster stall or foward a little.

My adjustement on the cable is at the end and the adjustement in the clutch cover also.

Does it mean my clutch is finish ?

Thanks
Nick

[SYKO]

toast........

[scooterroo]

simple to change the clutch on the blaster, quick and painless.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks I will buy a clutch kit.

EBC it is a good clutch ?

[Ryan.]

ok thanks I will buy a clutch kit.

EBC it is a good clutch ?

worked for me:beer

[Big red 200es]

A cr125 will it be good and how many mm can I put without change the manifold.

Thanks nick

[Big red 200es]

Anyone know.

[Big red 200es]

I just buy an ebc clutch kit.

Do I have special thing to do when I will change the clutch.

Thanks Nick

[Big red 200es]

Does the 83-84 atc 250r carb fit in the stock manifold ?

[scooterroo]

no. you would need a bigger intake boot. the better 250r carbs to use on the blaster would be the 85-86atc or any of them off the trx250r. you can buy bigger intake boots thru dennis kirk, projectblaster.com, but do a search, i think the trx intake might work, not 100% sure on it though.

[Big red 200es]

Ok thanks and what the difference between the v-force3 and the v-force delta ?

Which one is better ?

Do I need a reed spacer ?

[scooterroo]

v-force delta being older then the 3, newer technology i guess? and no you shouldnt need a spacer, but you can add one if you want.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks scooterroo your very helpful for me.

This week I will order a set of V-force 3 on ebay.

My last question is do I need to rejet when I put V-force and reed spacer ?

Thanks
Nick

[scooterroo]

yeah probably. might wanna get a few different sizes, both bigger ones and smaller ones, and do some plug chops till you get the right color on the plug.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks for the information

[Big red 200es]

I just buy my v-force and reed spacer of ebay.

Scooterroo how did you fit a 450r rear shock in your blaster ?

Because blaster don't have swing arm linkage.

Does it fit easy and can I have some pics of yours rear shock assembly.

Thanks Nick

[scooterroo]

well first off, you have to remove the rear seat and cut off the mounting tab on the right side for the rear fender, the one closest to the shock, so the ressie will fit. dont worry it doesnt hurt the fenders at all. the airbox lid will need to be modded as well, i just got rid of mine and run an outerwears over the filter. aside from that thats basically the only mods needed. the shock mounts just like the normal one, but your going to need to make a spacer for the bottom mount where it bolts up. i just used a bunch of washers and wrapped em in some black tape, lol. but it worked.

heres a pic to show the bottom mount...

as for the top its pretty self explanitory when you see the shock. the 400ex shock works also and gives yah like an inch more hieght.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks

I think is a good upgrade because is not very expensive.
Does it work good on big jump.

Does the front 450r shock work in my blaster ?

[scooterroo]

not sure on the front 450 shocks, i run works on the front. i get some good air on mine, its so light weight and i can throw it around so good, jumping is just an absolute "blast" on it.

[Big red 200es]

Does anyone order by projectblaster.com ?

I want to know if it is a good place do buy part ( I live in Canada ) ?

I will order a 35mm pwk carb, a pro design intake manifold and a pro motion cable.

I want to be sure that is a good place to order before to buy my things.

Thanks
Nick

[scooterroo]

i have ordered plenty of parts thru them. kurt is a stand up guy, they definately know their stuff when it comes to the blaster. probably the best blaster performance site on the net if you ask me.

[Big red 200es]

Does a 35mm will be to big ?? becauce I only have v-force3, fmf pipe and silencer (4 inches cut), and a reed spacer.

I want a 35mm because in the future I will buy a 240cc kit and crank stroker.


Thanks Nick

[Big red 200es]

anyone know if it will be too big

[cody2]

I dont think it will be too bad, if you plan on boring it out your going to want a bigger carb, how long tell you put the 240 on it?

[Big red 200es]

This winter after decenber I will put a Big bore

[scooterroo]

i would wait till i put the bigbire on it before slapping a 34 or 35mm carb on it. if you want more performance out of the stock bore size, go with 30mm. stock they are 26 so its not to big of a jump in size, but enough to notice an improvement. what kinda pipe and silencer you running?

[Big red 200es]

Fmf fatty and fmf powercore 2

[brapp]

or jut buy the parts and wait till you have allthe go fast goodies before you tear it down and rebuild

[Big red 200es]

but Does it good if run the carb or I have good risk to break my engine

[Big red 200es]

Do you think is good idea if I ride a uni air filter without air box. (Right at the carb)

And what to do If I want to wash my atv whit this setup ?

Thanks nick

[scooterroo]

well, first off i will say i have run a few bikes with the filter right off the carb with no box. but i always use an outerwears if i do. when washing them, i would just put a plastic bag over the filter with a rubber band to stop any water from getting in the filter. best bet is to run the stock blaster airbox thats molded into the rear fenders, and run it open. no lid. but also use an outerwears over the filter too, for the extra added protection. sometime here in the near future i am going with an aluminum airbox and k&n setup, better flow to the carb!!! for now, i just use an outerwears over the k&n i have with no lid on my box.

[Big red 200es]

ok but my new carb I dont Think it will fit the stock airbox . So what to do.

And I would like to have an airbox because I ride a lot in winter.

[scooterroo]

i heated the end of the airbox hose up with a heat gun so it was nice and flexable, stretched it out over the carb and clamped it on. when it cooled it stayed the size of the carb.

[Big red 200es]

ok thanks good idea. I will try this when I receive my carb.

[Big red 200es]

Now I finnaly receive my carb and pro design intake manifold. And my manifold doesn't fit my reed valve (v-force 3) because he has like a little plate in the middle of the manifold. Do I have something to do ?

Thanks

[scooterroo]

snap a pic and post it up, give me a better idea of what your talking about.

[Big red 200es]

ok I will put a pics tomorrow. thanks

[jdhockey2010]

I have a 1990 blaster 200 with 40hp. I have not a big bore 240 but it comming soon. I have FMF fatty pipe sst with power core 2 silencer, K n N p-flow, 34mm carb, boyesen pro-series without spacer, wiseco piston, fire advance, porting and all transfer, exaust polish, exaust open and reed valves too, exaust polish and reed valves transfer polish, planned head. I have 40hp without racing fuel. I don't know how many hp does I have with racing fuel but I follow a honda 250r open on a 350ft drag. I have 18 inch back tire. That's a pretty good setting without a 240. Next week, I will put L.A. sleeve with a 72mm piston and 180lbs of compression. I will also put a 36mm carb for better result. This setting will have approximatly 55hp. I will put a +6 inch swing arm and a drop kit. I will put too VP C14 racing fuel.
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