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Dirtcrasher
06-25-2003, 07:34 AM
My god I have pondered this question for years and finally yesterday a vision came to me and read aloud to me "they discontinued it because they knew it would be at least 10 years before anyone could even come close to it's joint tearing, bone jarring, teeth grinding sheer acceleration and gobs of useable power" LOL!!


Well, it's the best I can think of anyway. Can I have one now, please?

I'll take a stock 89 with low miles thank you.

Kilborg
06-25-2003, 01:04 PM
I dunno about you man, but I think stock 250r's are pretty tame. Mine runs good and strong, but its not quite what you described...maybe cause I'm just used to open class bikes...

Dirtcrasher
06-25-2003, 01:46 PM
I'm just teasin! Thats always been my favorite quad since one of my friends got one for graduation back in 89 - he refuses to part with it. I just remember that it had great power and handling and that I'd be so happy to own a nice one someday. All around I just think they had a fantastic design they chose to discontinue :? Besides that, it sure fit me alot better than the Blaster.

Coty
06-25-2003, 02:41 PM
hey dirt crasher, i am not sure if i remember this right, but in one of my dirtwheels issues, i think Honda is putting a CR250 engine on the 400ex chassis, and will be selling it for like $4500, but like i said i am not sure if that is completely accurate or not, if i could find tha magazine i would let tell you more.

86waterpumper
06-25-2003, 03:19 PM
Coty that is the Service Honda trx250r...they not only make this, but they still will sell you a new cr500 dirtbike based on the cr250 aluminum frame as well. Cool stuff if you've got deep pockets. Read about them here

http://www.servicehonda.com/TRX250r.html

http://www.servicehonda.com/CR500AF.html

Coty
06-25-2003, 03:23 PM
hey i really appreciate that, it looks better in red....also where in the hell is the price..they always leave that out.

NOS_350X
06-25-2003, 04:16 PM
the shop i go to all the time had a 89 trx250r there was no tred worn down on the back tires no crack in plastic it was rode for about a total of 5-10 hours they wanted 7,000 for it

PowerTrike
06-25-2003, 08:24 PM
I passed up a decent 87 for under $2,000. Or atleast I thought about it too long and it was sold. :shock: I highly regret my error.

ATC crazy
06-25-2003, 08:35 PM
I LOVE the 1988-1989 TRX250R's....I would die for one (but then I wouldn't be able to ride it :( )

To me, They were the best ATV EVER made in history

Dynofox
06-25-2003, 09:43 PM
I agree the 250r was a sweet quad, although i've never ridden one. It looks like it might be taking a back seat to the new yamie 450 though. :?

skippy
06-25-2003, 10:54 PM
i got a sweet trx.. and ride w a few other guys that ride trx's and i tell ya they cant be beat! but this should be over in the quad central section?

Dirtcrasher
06-26-2003, 07:43 AM
WOW, those things are sweet. Wonder whats better an 89 hopped up or a SH 2004 - I bet Service is right on.

I'll bet there a tad more than 4500$ though, probably like 7000$.

86waterpumper
06-26-2003, 09:23 AM
When the service honda bikes first came out, the price that was floating around was right around 8. Don't know if that's gone up or down. It would be pretty hard to beat the motor in the service honda one, since it's as far as I know a new model cr250 motor. Obviously it has power valves, and other refinements and puts out a ton more hp than the old school motors did. Whether or not the 400ex chassis weighs about the same as the 250r one I don't know.

ATC crazy
06-26-2003, 06:07 PM
I would think that the chassis weigh close to the same weight. The EX chassis was based on the R's.

YTZ250#1
06-26-2003, 08:55 PM
According to the article I read about service honda's 250r quad,the price
is around $8,000.

ATCRYDER
06-26-2003, 10:42 PM
Yep, The Legendary 250R now has a new competitor in the Best Race Quad of all time Category: The Yamaha YZF450.

ATC crazy
06-27-2003, 08:17 PM
Ya...but it still takes 450cc's for a 4-stroke to even compete with a 250cc 2-stroke (stock of course)

ATCRYDER
06-27-2003, 08:19 PM
Not at all. Maybe years ago: yes, but these new Lightweight Piston, High-Revving 4 strokes are replacing 2 strokes at the track one by one.

YTZ250#1
06-27-2003, 08:59 PM
The only problem with the new 4 strokes is they wont last as long as the old ones.they rev so high they need reringed as much as a 2 stroke.
sure they run great and are fast ,but they just need to much upkeep.
Although I have been looking for a nice trail bike and have had my eye on
the DRZ 400.what do you guys think of them?I would rather the WR 400
or 450 but there is about a $1,500 price jump.

md1985250r
06-28-2003, 06:55 AM
you wont be disappointed with drz 400....a friend has 2 and loves them....they are quick too...good luck

md1985250r
06-28-2003, 06:56 AM
I dunno about you man, but I think stock 250r's are pretty tame. Mine runs good and strong, but its not quite what you described...maybe cause I'm just used to open class bikes...



250r tame? LMFAO

TimSr
06-28-2003, 11:13 AM
The 250R was discontinued because the engineers at Honda said the "400 will be ready next spring" but it took 10 years to work the bugs out!

I think you guys are couple years behind. The heyday of the 250r in competition is on the decline and has been since the 400EX when Honda finally replaced it with something nearly its equal. Since that time Ive watched the amateur MX 2 stroke classes decline to almost nothing, and the 4 stroke classes grow to dominance. In MX competition, the 250R has the edge (other than front suspension) but the 400EX covers the riders mistakes better, so less than perfect riders tend to get better lap times on the 400EX. Since that time, a handful of production quads have proven to be superior to the 250R in all aspects other than off the line, which is still pretty close. The stock Z400 will eat a stock 250R for lunch and spit it out on an MX track. Even the holeshot is too close to predict. Same with the Cannondale unless you want to get techincal and say its no longer a production quad. The Polaris Predator that I skeptically watched come in has proven itself, and left me amazed. The only major MFG which (until now) has nothing superior to the 250R was Yamaha. The R isnt moving out of first place. Its moving into last place. This becomes really obvious if you hang around the local track for a little while, and even more convincing with some price comparisions.

Well, Im off to the races with my 250R dinosaur!

rippn250R
07-01-2003, 12:16 AM
well it took 15 years for the atv manufacturers to produce an atv to compete with the old 250r. So what if the new stuff is better then the 250r, its just funny that it took this long. you cant compare a stock 250r to any other new stock quad out there because its hard to find a stock R is mint comdition.Anyway, its the aftermarket companies that make a quad great, without them the R wouldnt be as domanant as it is. I think the trx 250r is the greatest atv ever made (next to the atc) and it will never die!!!!

To bad they didnt make trikes anymore, they would probably be dirt bikes with 3 wheels. Then they would kick the crap out of the quads!!

AirManCam
07-13-2003, 12:19 AM
in one of my dirtwheel mags there is a section on a yamaha 450 warrior that looks pretty bad trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro. and pretty fast

stonehedge
07-13-2003, 04:07 PM
TimSr, you nailed it! Perfect. Great points and all very true. The day is here and its more than over, just have to say it LOUDER, you 250R folks have trouble hearing, must be all that noise those bikes make. 8)

AirManCam
07-13-2003, 07:09 PM
i like the noise the 250r makes lol

MR ATC
07-14-2003, 01:21 AM
The 250R was discontinued because the engineers at Honda said the "400 will be ready next spring" but it took 10 years to work the bugs out!

I think you guys are couple years behind. The heyday of the 250r in competition is on the decline and has been since the 400EX when Honda finally replaced it with something nearly its equal. Since that time Ive watched the amateur MX 2 stroke classes decline to almost nothing, and the 4 stroke classes grow to dominance. In MX competition, the 250R has the edge (other than front suspension) but the 400EX covers the riders mistakes better, The stock Z400 will eat a stock 250R for lunch and spit it out on an MX track. The R isnt moving out of first place. Its moving into last place. This becomes really obvious if you hang around the local track for a little while, and even more convincing with some price comparisions.

Well, Im off to the races with my 250R dinosaur!

Honda stopped making the 250R because of the consent decree act (a little known fact Honda was the main one involved with the government the other manufactures just played "follow the leader" Honda sacraficed Trikes and performance quads for a lighter tax tarrif on there automobiles being brought into America.) thats why 10 yrs later the 400ex came out. that and the fact the other manufactures were 15 years behind Honda.

Now the 400ex may be popular among amature riders and the Z400 may be taking away from the ex but the fastest guys in the world still choose the 250R and other two strokes. they can choose anything they want but have yet to switch. in motocross/supercross two strokes still out number the four strokes and the CR 250R and ATC/TRX 250R are not to far apart.

longlive the parapalegic ATC 250R the TRX


( thats my golf cart post for the year )

TimSr
07-14-2003, 01:56 AM
Hey MrATC, do you know that youre posting in the quad forum??? Glad to see youve come out of the closet!

MR ATC
07-14-2003, 11:30 AM
Hey MrATC, do you know that youre posting in the quad forum??? Glad to see youve come out of the closet!


come out of the closet :shock: hmmm i always thought golf carts were GAY now i know they are if you have to come out of the closet to accept them. :D

Billy Golightly
07-14-2003, 12:09 PM
Hey MrATC, do you know that youre posting in the quad forum??? Glad to see youve come out of the closet!


come out of the closet :shock: hmmm i always thought golf carts were GAY now i know they are if you have to come out of the closet to accept them. :D


LMAO! Hahahaha thats great!

AirManCam
07-14-2003, 08:00 PM
wow lol

JeepTJ
07-16-2003, 07:22 AM
The TRX250R is $9275, if you get a few of their suspension or a-arm upgrades you can push the price well over that. I was going to call them and see what motor is in it, a friend told me it's a CR250 motor but you can still buy the 88' trx250r kit motor from them, so I wonder if that's what they are putting in it.

if Service Honda builds a TRX500R I might actually buy one. I use to own a quadracer 500, to this day I regret selling it, that was the best bike I've ever owned. I've been told a company sells a kit so you can bolt the CR500 motor and radiator into the 400ex frame, I've seached around on the net but I can't find the company

www.eastcoastatv.com will build you anything you want, at a price. Check out the USED quad they have for sale. $18,500 that is not a misprint

http://adcache.atvtraderonline.com/16/2/6/36696726.htm

I've never raced, but I'm sure some of you that race have spent that much or more on a quad before

AirManCam
07-16-2003, 05:25 PM
my friend had a 500 quadracer and that was faster then my banshee well thats stock

mymint87
07-27-2003, 11:15 PM
heck, their still making quads like the 250r...check out how this companies ripping off the trx... AND others


oh btw Messiah, their looking for salesmen with motivation

http://www.ketchum-hurricane.com/lc.htm

AirManCam
07-27-2003, 11:35 PM
I think its a scam deal

250rmanfmf
07-28-2003, 02:09 AM
the TRX 250R's were the best racing quads ever, the setup of suspension and motor would take any quad, Hands down, even the pitaful Banshee, the 250r would take the banshee on corners all day long. motorwise, the R is a beast, stock is fun but the work that can be done to the motor is awsome, its funny that a nice TRX 250R costs just as much as a Brand new banshee.

AGAIN TRX 250R was the Best quad ever was then and still is.

Also I have heard roomers of them introducing the 250r back into production in a couple of years before the bane of 2-strokes but that could be just a roomer and nothing may happen but thats what I have heard from ATV racing buddies.

Billy Golightly
07-28-2003, 12:10 PM
That rumor has been around ever since Honda discontinued the 250R to start with...I will say one thing IF (But it won't happen, Honda is to afraid of lawyers) they reintroduced an IMPROVED TRX250R, People would go nuts and buy them buy the thousands.

ATC crazy
07-28-2003, 12:14 PM
They sure would....I'd sell just about everything I could to have one too. :shock:

kgstooldie
08-20-2003, 07:35 PM
ive owned 250r & 400 ex @ the same time both modifed quite a bit
but neither where grenaids the 2 bikes r totally different.for coming out of a corner ex has it for flat open r wins ex does have better suspension.but
in woops hard motocros 250 r is better.400 ex make u tire quicker.couldnt afford both sold 87 4 trx 4 2000 thats 500 more than i paid 8 yrs ago.

AirManCam
08-20-2003, 11:02 PM
ive owned 250r & 400 ex @ the same time both modifed quite a bit
but neither where grenaids the 2 bikes r totally different.for coming out of a corner ex has it for flat open r wins ex does have better suspension.but
in woops hard motocros 250 r is better.400 ex make u tire quicker.couldnt afford both sold 87 4 trx 4 2000 thats 500 more than i paid 8 yrs ago.
Why would you sell a trx 250R? I would rather the 250R any day then a 400ex! The 250R was the best!