2005 Honda FatCat 450R :)

[Mr Bracket]

What do you get when you combine a Honda CRF450R, Yamaha Rhino wheels, and a lot of fabrication???

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat00.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat01.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat02.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat03.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat08.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat10.jpg

I've ridden it now with just the wide front tire and it is INSANE!! I love it. Should have waited to post it until after I got the rear end done, but I was to excited to wait to share... I'll keep you posted with new pics as I finish the rear end.

[SYKO]

I think...I think... thats going to be....








































FREAKIN AWESOME!!!

[AutoXer]

now put a trike rear end on there!!!
guess if the baddest fat cat on the block is your thing thats cool too. Great work

[Billy Golightly]

This is a really sweet custom project, I'm gonna move it to the Mad Scientists Lair even though its not really a trike project, its still a custom build and cool as hell.

[rdlsz24]

Sweet I love Fat Cats / BW's.

Rob

[dcreel]

Awesome. Keep up the good work.

[outtaline]

that is sick I can't even imagine how it rides the factory fatcats were a blast and they had no power

[The Goat]

I'm trying to imagine of the traction it's going to have while being light....crazy

[MonroeMike]

Mr. Bracket, we really need a vid of this beast in action, if possible.

[Mr Bracket]

Wow, thanks for all the support guys! I got a little scared when I found my post had been moved from the 2wheeled section, but I'll take it as a compliment that this project is cool enough to be in the 3wheeled section ;)

As you can see, I had to move the radiators to give room for the wide triple clamps to turn.

I plan on making some progress on the rear end this weekend. I'll be sure and take some pics.

I'll try and get some video next time I take it out. That may be a while though as I want to get the rear end done first. I ride mostly in the sand, obvious with the paddle tire and such. The front end floats beautifully now, but the rear end still sinks at lower speeds and makes for an interesting ride.

I'm doing my best to keep the weight additions to a minimum, I love how light the CRF is. However, I've already added about 10 pounds to the front of it. The rear will be a little worse with the jackshaft and all. Still much lighter than my old BW350.

I started this project because my BW350 wouldn't make it up the steeper dunes here in Oregon. This 450R is basically a point and shoot machine, I'm blown away by the power it has. This bike actually has the Athena 487cc kit on it as well, so it has more torque than a stocker, LOVE IT!!!!

Here a couple more pics to keep you satisfied til I get some rear end shots for you.

Thanks again,
Mike

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat05.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat09a.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/fatcat09b.jpg

[MonroeMike]

"Point and shoot machine" :twisted:

[outtaline]

how much for a set of those tripples they are sick

[Dirtcrasher]

Real nice work Mike!!

Thats gonna be one nasty BW!!

What type of Mill is that? obviously CNC, do you write the programs also??

[harryredtrike]

that is sick.so f n cool.gonna be sweet.pics when done or video would be better

[atctim]

did we just find a new supplier for custom triples or what?

[Mr Bracket]

How much for a set of triple clamps?? I don't know, I really didn't keep track of my time since it was for myself. If I had to guess, around $500 for the set. Many hours on my little CNC.

I use a ShopTask CNC machine. Yes, I do the programming myself. I draw in a program called Cadkey and do my machine paths in BobCad. It's a great home shop machine, I build bicycles for a living so it's perfectly sized for what I normally make. Hey, a motorcycle is simply a bicycle with a bigger engine right??? LOL...

If anyone wanted a custom set of triple clamps, we'd have to figure out something we both felt good about. These are the first set I've ever made, they turned out great but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject by any means!

Thanks again for all the positive words! I'll keep you posted with pics as the rear end takes shape.

Here are a couple CAD screen shots for you to see what the rear end will be like...

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/s1.gif

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/s3.gif

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/s2.gif

Obviously I don't have it all figured out yet, but getting close. For reference, the two bent tubes that create the swingarm are 1-1/4 x .058" CroMo tubing.

[Dirtcrasher]

^ Fantastic!! Thanks for sharing. I knew you weren't a NOOB :D

ESP, when I saw the steering stops on the lower clamp. It's one thing to deal with one plane, but to cut that out is a whole other level :)

Nice stuff and thats great that it all rolls into your buisness/hobby anyhow....

[tri-Z ripper]

excellent build look forward to seeing your progress and excellent machining done in your garage!

[Mr Bracket]

I've made some progress on the rear end, here are some pics to prove I've not been sittin on my a**... LOL...

I bent two Cro-Mo tubes and cut out some dropouts to hold the rear axle/hub assembly. I also started the rear hub and have the flange to hold the wheel in place. Still need to make the flange to hold the rear sprocket and disk rotor. I will create brackets to attach this swing arm to the pivot point on the frame of the motorcycle and brackets to hold the jackshaft assembly.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing01.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing02.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing03.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing04.jpg

[MonroeMike]

Nice fab work (wish my beads looked that good too).

[dcreel]

Keep it up, awesome work. Are you keeping the measurements/plans for this? So you can make another one? ;)

[vincy]

Need Top End Enginge Yt60 Trizinger

[SYKO]

this thing is going to be SIC!

[Russell 350X]

That thing is RADICAL! Definitely one of a kind.

[Mr Bracket]

More Progress!!! :) :) It's coming along nicely..

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing01-1.jpg

Tearing down the rear end of the bike....

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing02-1.jpg

Compare those swingarms....

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing03-1.jpg

Swingarm Pivots to fit stock bearings and seals..

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing04-1.jpg

Swingarm with Pivots tacked in place.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing05.jpg

Swingarm in place.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing06.jpg

Just had to throw the wheel on there to see what it looks like!! :)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing07.jpg

Working on the shock linkage mount.

I'm sooo addicted to this project, who needs sleep anyways right??? LOL....

[MonroeMike]

^ I'm addicted to it and it's not even mine...

[SYKO]

your fab work is sex homie.....

[coldfuzion76]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

All I can say.

[Mr Bracket]

Well, I got some more done this weekend. Jackshaft and rear sprocket mounted!!! :)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/jack01.jpg

Jackshaft made.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/jack02.jpg

Rear sprocket mount made.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/jack03.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/jack04.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/jack05.jpg

Now things are going slower, it's always the little details that take the longest!!

[BigGreenMachine]

Beautiful fabrication Mr.Bracket!

[cr480r]

Excellent fab work!! but those plates that attach to the pivot tubes dont appear to offer much lateral strength

[factoryX]

I dont think he is done yet...

[250rfan]

Holy Brackets batman!!,


Awesome piece of workmanship, this is excellent work.


And i was impressed with TEAM HEAT & BEAT!!:naughty:

[Mr Bracket]

Excellent fab work!! but those plates that attach to the pivot tubes dont appear to offer much lateral strength

Hey cr480r, you are correct, the plates I'm using don't offer much in the way of support for a side load. They are 3/8" thick and are about six inches apart so they are stronger than you might think. However, they may not be strong enough for the side loads a 3wheeler encounters while turning. A 2wheeler on the other hand, has to lean to make it around a corner or it will fall over. The leaning transfers that side load into a force that is perpindicular to the pivot of the swingarm and therefore, in a direction that these plates are very strong. The 2wheeler may encounter a large side load in a crash situation, but if the plates bent instead of my aluminum frame cracking, I'd be a happy camper!

[bigpimpin]

outstanding. when will the new missile kits be available?

[Tri-Z 250]

I can't wait for a full roostin report on this build. Good stuff right there Mr Bracket...Sure to be a dune head turnner.

[Billy Golightly]

Man, freaking awesome work. Definitely one of the best fab projects I've ever seen here. Phenomenal.

[Name Brand]

WOW! That looks top notch; very cool idea and great fab work!

That front radiator/handguard looks impressive too; any pics of that?

[cr480r]

They are 3/8" thick and are about six inches apart so they are stronger than you might think.

but they are also somewhat long and have a big hole cut in the center.. but I guess if they flex too much you could always add a gusset to tie them together


A 2wheeler on the other hand, has to lean to make it around a corner or it will fall over. The leaning transfers that side load into a force that is perpindicular to the pivot of the swingarm and therefore, in a direction that these plates are very strong. The 2wheeler may encounter a large side load in a crash situation, but if the plates bent instead of my aluminum frame cracking, I'd be a happy camper!

I understand the loads being applied, but do you plan to ever jump or bang through any whoops? motorcycles dont always fly straight... the oem swingarm is a very stout peice for a reason... yours may appear like a fatcat, but its still a crf450 and should be quite a performer..

[Mr Bracket]

Well, I've given some thought to this whole swingarm strength issue. I've come to the realization that it does not matter if I'm right or wrong about it's strength. Although it seems unfathomable at the moment, I might one day want to sell this creation. It wont' matter if indeed the swingarm is strong or not, what matters is that the potential customer thinks it is. Rather than argue the point, I'd like to make something people think is cool and safe. Hopefully I'll not get stuck with something I can't get rid of should I ever decide to sell it.

So, I'm gonna add some gussets to the swingarm and beef it up a little.

Stay tuned for more pics. I plan on spending some time on the beast this weekend!!! :)

Mike

[cr480r]

well I think what you are doing here is great and your fab skills are second to none.. I have wanted to see or build one of these for quite some time.. Thank you for sharing your progress.. cant wait to hear the ride report!!!

[300rman]

i know companies are out there making cr500 and kx500 conversions for the fat tires.

Good to see you are going to add more meat to the swingarm. Better overbuilt than Underbuilt!

[Atc GuY]

Like this???

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php?topic=5192.0

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748541

[Mr Bracket]

Like this???

http://www.kxriders.com/forums/index.php?topic=5192.0

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748541

WOW, a bike after my own heart!!!! :) What happened to the guy tho?? Seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I'd love to go riding with him!

[tecat-z]

Amazing fab skills.:drool: I wish i had the ability to engineer and execute such things. I applaude this project and can't wait to see it's completion. Seems you work in a very efficient manor, and major fabricated components come together very quickly. ( swingarm, linkage, tripples, jackshaft) One question though....... Will the rear tire clear the exhaust can?:beer

[Mr Bracket]

Amazing fab skills.:drool: I wish i had the ability to engineer and execute such things. I applaude this project and can't wait to see it's completion. Seems you work in a very efficient manor, and major fabricated components come together very quickly. ( swingarm, linkage, tripples, jackshaft) One question though....... Will the rear tire clear the exhaust can?:beer

Nope, tire hits it! Already got it off and trying to figure out how to stuff it under the fender. That or???? Any ideas?

[Atc GuY]

WOW, a bike after my own heart!!!! :) What happened to the guy tho?? Seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I'd love to go riding with him!

No clue what happened to him, I bumped the thread so we'll see... he had said he was making the kits :wondering though I bet it's a bunch of trailpro

EDIT: Just read your post above,,, I vote strait pipe! :w00t:

[Atc GuY]

But in all seriousness, how much is it not clearing by? Do you have a pic?

[dcreel]

What about an under and up pipe? Like the old XR's had?

http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/01/16/bikepics-1540812-800.jpg
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/01/16/bikepics-1540813-800.jpg

[Mr Bracket]

Don't have a pic of the exhaust and I've already removed it. Here are my choices:
1) move it outboard 4"
2) tuck it under the fender
3) something I've not thought of yet...

I'm leaning towards tucking it under the fender, but I don't like the idea of it getting plastered with with mud and sand....

Moving it out from where it normally would mount means cutting the number plate off of the air cleaner cover. Which isn't so bad I guess. I've added more weight on the left side of the bike with the jackshaft, so maybe, moving the exhaust further out on the rights side is the better option???

I've got time to decide, plenty of work left on the swingarm this weekend! :)

[Atc GuY]

Man,, I like the option of running it under the bike so it's out of the way, but that would obviously sacrifice ground clearance, plus you'd have to fabricate a brand new exhaust...
I was thinking something like Buell uses: :confused:
http://www.moto-madness.com/Product%20Pictures/Jardine/1125R%20RT5.JPG
http://www.moto-madness.com/Product%20Pictures/Jardine/XB%20GP-1.JPG

Or their stock exhaust: (the flat one)
http://bcrider.com/photos/onbikecomp.jpg

[factoryX]

I think it would look wierd with it hanging around below the bike, I mean he is riding it every where at dunes right? I think moving it out 4 inches or tucking it under the fender is the way to go....

[brapp]

what abotu liek the ct outlaw pipe on the lt500 that has the bend and swings 180 and then turns down to the ground

[Atc GuY]

I think it would look wierd with it hanging around below the bike, I mean he is riding it every where at dunes right? I think moving it out 4 inches or tucking it under the fender is the way to go....
I know what you mean. But how can he move 4 inches to the right? His side panel right now clears by like 3/4 of an inch. He cant bend it so he's have to take the side panel off... I think under the fender might be the only option (Mr Bracket, will the exhaust can you have clear the top of the tire and the fender when the suspension is fully compressed? I don't own a 450 but friends/cousins have them...
We need :pics:

[cr480r]

if he put those forks and swingarm on a cheap CR250 he would have much more silencer clearance...lol..

[factoryX]

if he put those forks and swingarm on a cheap CR250 he would have much more silencer clearance...lol..

..........:drool:

[Atc GuY]

if he put those forks and swingarm on a cheap CR250 he would have much more silencer clearance...lol..
Agreed....... :lol:

[step child]

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/swing06.jpg

OK glad I could help fund your new project :drool: ..


But i think we'll have to race to see which bike will be King of the Hill.














:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :crazy: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Just give me a little ~ maybe a big head start :naughty: .





That build is awsome!!!

J.

[Mr Bracket]

Weekend Updates.....

didn't get to spend as much time on the project as I would have liked this weekend. I did get a couple things done.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear01.jpg

Re-worked the rear hub to make room for the disk brake caliper.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear02.jpg

Got that assembly all put together.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear07.jpg

Looks good when all put together, but I have so little room for the caliper, I have to loosen the bolts holding the disk rotor in place to remove the wheel. Sucks, but don't really want the swingarm any wider!!!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear06.jpg

Made a chain guard to protect my leg.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear05.jpg

Made some gussets to beef up swingarm.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear03.jpg

Loosened shock spring and compressed suspension to check clearances.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/rear04.jpg

No room to stuff muffler under fender.... gonna move it out our build a custom shapped muffler....

[dcreel]

You do the most amazing work. Keep up the great work. I can't wait to see it finished.

[factoryX]

lol with the pipe there won't it melt the fender?

[MonroeMike]

lol with the pipe there won't it melt the fender?

He is showing that he doesn't have room for it there.

[SYKO]

lol with the pipe there won't it melt the fender?


your not very observant are you? read mmuch lately?:crazy:

[factoryX]

I already knew it was not going to work there even if it did...

[Mr Bracket]

now now guys, let's keep this friendly!! I appreciate all the feedback. I'm gonna get all the swingarm fab done, then tackle the exhaust issue. Gives me some time to develop a plan....... I'm honestly mulling over some custom shapped cans that might make the under the fender option a reality. Yes, I'll need to consider the heat factor and make sure I don't melt anything. Gonna go take an internet class on muffler design...LOL.... aka: search the internet for info!!!

[300rman]

problem with moving it out, as soon as you drop the bike to that side, its going to smash inward, creating a clearance issue out in the middle of a dune.

[Billy Golightly]

for someone with your fab skills I'm sure the exhaust wont be to much of a problem :naughty:


You might checkinto the stock silencers off of the LTR450R Suzuki quads...they are sort of an oval shape, they are flat and wide and fit under the seat/subframe center mount. Dunno if it'll help you out any, but check it out. One of those would look SWEEEEEEEEEEET on that bike when it was done if it would work.

[Atc GuY]

Go dual so you can use smaller silencers and use the extra room to spread them apart so your tire will clear...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/baconcrf/IMG_0528.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/baconcrf/IMG_0526.jpg
This is a CRF250F but the left side panel is a from an exhaust kit. This one is made to accommodate the extra exhaust, I'm sure you could get one of those side-panels and make it bolt up, it would give you some extra room to play with...

[DIRTRYDER]

[QUOTE=Mr Bracket;748185]What do you get when you combine a Honda CRF450R, Yamaha Rhino wheels, and a lot of fabrication???

That looks sick man. Way nicer than the old school fat cats. Can't wait 'til you post final pics.:D :beer :w00t:

[300rman]

Cant believe this hasnt been mentioned yet, WTF is up with the radiators on the number plate?

PLEASE tell me they are going to be put back in the original location.........or something different be devised.....

[Mr Bracket]

Cant believe this hasnt been mentioned yet, WTF is up with the radiators on the number plate?

PLEASE tell me they are going to be put back in the original location.........or something different be devised.....

With the wider triple clamps they had to be moved....

[Mr Bracket]

Ok, finally got it ready for it's maiden voyage!! Heading to South Jetty in the morning....

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone01.jpg

Got the exhaust figured out.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone02.jpg

Re-worked the radiator guard and powder coated it white.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone03.jpg

Finished front end.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone04.jpg

Swingarm and rear hub all welded.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone05.jpg

Powder coating the swingarm.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone06.jpg

Johnny 5 Silver!!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone07.jpg

Powder coated rear hub.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zdone08.jpg

All ready to throw some sand around tomorrow!!!! Wish me luck!!

[bigpimpin]

looks great. take some pics when you go riding

[300rman]

Try getting a radiator that mounts in the center of the bike, under the steering neck.

there's always a solution :)

other than the rads, the rest of the bike is sex in my mouth :drool:

[dcreel]

It looks great.. I second the pics of it running. A question about the radiators.. Could you have moved them down the front frame rail to clear the forks? Or was the bottom triple contacting them as well. Not to second guess you because it looks aweome.

[Mr Bracket]

All I can say is "I don't miss my old BW350 anymore!" This thing is Freakin Amazing on the dunes!!! I am so pleased with it. :w00t:

Here are a couple pics for now, I got some video, gonna try editing them a little first.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zride01.jpg

In the morning before I loaded it up.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zride02.jpg

Finally at the dunes!!!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zride03.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/zride04.jpg

Stands up on it's own....LOL.. if the wind had blown a little it would have fallen over.

I'll get the videos up in an hour or so I hope, gotta go learn some editing.

[jeddy]

I thought the early aluminum frame two stroke CR250s used a single center mounted radiator. Don't know if it would be any better, but maybe something to try or think about. Seems to me like your setup would be just fine, sort of like the first gen tecates. The dunes pictures look pretty nice, how does it trail compared to a 'skinny' tire bike in the dunes? I used to have a BW200, and it was fun at the dunes but totally gutless. Been thinking about a missle kit on one of my Tri-Z's...
-Jeddy

[Russell 350X]

Purely awesome, very nice job man!

[brapp]

thats wild man wish i was set up to build soem stuf fliek that still.

[Mr Bracket]

Here's a video:

http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat 450R/?action=view&current=FirstRide.flv

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/th_FirstRide.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/?action=view&current=FirstRide.flv)

Now you can't hunt me down and kill me....LOL.

[cr480r]

thats sweet!! It looks like alot of fun.. So how much do the handling characteristics differ from a regular motorcycle?

[leevarnado]

man that's awsome.

[outtaline]

Monster props :w00t: that thing is sick.

[Billy Golightly]

awesome work, truly awesome.

[MonroeMike]

Looks great. Sweet vid.

[maggiesboy]

that is just nasty .... I want one!

[Mr Bracket]

I posted a video on YouTube!!! Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Eckdqybvw

Mike

[tecat-z]

All i can say is you work amazingly fast and turned out a superb one off product! Or..... is this gonna be a kit?:naughty:

[brapp]

dude that thing is insane!!!!!!!!!! i love it !!!!

[Mr Bracket]

Went down to Coos Bay/North Bend and Winchester Bay over the weekend. Here's a video from Banshee Hill at Winchester:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udCBpQRq0rk

[300rman]

If only that was a CR500 in that frame :drool:

it would only run away from everything at the dunes even faster.

when the 450 blows up, you should consider the conversion.
bannedcr500riders.com has all the info to tell you exactly what you would have to overcome fitting the motor in there.

[factoryX]

If only that was a CR500 in that frame :drool:

it would only run away from everything at the dunes even faster.

when the 450 blows up, you should consider the conversion.
bannedcr500riders.com has all the info to tell you exactly what you would have to overcome fitting the motor in there.

lol when it blows up..:lol:

[Mr Bracket]

So, I tried it out in the dirt for the first time this past weekend and was very impressed! I was afraid I had created a dune only bike when I did this conversion, but it proved to ride just fine in the dirt too! I found a set of used stock Rhino tires and threw them on. I need to find a softer compound tire as these were so stiff I had to run them down to 5psi to get any traction out of them. The thing climbed hills like a billy goat! big rocks and root wads were no problem. Luckily these tires (25" tall) are taller than quad tires so I didn't fall too far into ruts and holes. I'll probably put a 26" or 27" on the front though just to make it even better. I also want to find a tread pattern that more closely resembles a dirt bike tire. The bike is definately heavier, I wouldn't ever try running a MX moto on it or anything. But, I did not ruin it for bombing through the woods!!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/dirt01.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/FatCat%20450R/dirt02.jpg

Fun Fun Fun!!!

[85_250_SX]

I would love to have that as a kit, this weekend i will take photos of my 2005 crf450 it has a full yoshi exhaust titanium header procircuit can,engine built by cernics out of Perry Ga it was a pro's practice bike, factory connection suspension showa forks, 1/4 twist throttle, countless goodies, it was sitting in a garage at my buddies he quit racing it sold it for $1,100 only runs race fuel

[atctim]

THat is some amazing work - have you thought about putting a trike front fender on there?

[Mr Bracket]

I would love to have that as a kit, this weekend i will take photos of my 2005 crf450 it has a full yoshi exhaust titanium header procircuit can,engine built by cernics out of Perry Ga it was a pro's practice bike, factory connection suspension showa forks, 1/4 twist throttle, countless goodies, it was sitting in a garage at my buddies he quit racing it sold it for $1,100 only runs race fuel

Given your bike is also a 2005, I could build a kit for that! I'd love to build you one!!! Sounds like it would be insane on that bike!!!!

[Mr Bracket]

THat is some amazing work - have you thought about putting a trike front fender on there?

It would probably work great on there! The skinny one doesn't bother me though.

[Mr Bracket]

I just started making a web page for this bike. I'm dubbing it a "Fat Bottom Dune Bike." I really enjoyed building this bike and would love to build more of them! If you are interested let me know.

I don't want to sell this one, but if someone gave me $7000 for it, I'd let it go and buy two more dirtbikes to convert.......

Check out the page: http://www.bikes4cargo.com/UltimateDuneBike.html

Thanks,
Mike

[FATTYFIVE]

Nice site Mike. Too bad we're so far apart. Would be a blast to ride together. I made it out to glamis for new years--07. Maybe I could talk the wife into Oregon sometime soon. Good luck.

[Mr Bracket]

Nice site Mike. Too bad we're so far apart. Would be a blast to ride together. I made it out to glamis for new years--07. Maybe I could talk the wife into Oregon sometime soon. Good luck.

Thanks! Hey! If she'll be game for Glamis again, let's plan a trip there! I've never been down there and want to go later this year!!!

[FATTYFIVE]

I think its over-rated. I'd Much rather check out some Oregon trails or dunes or both!

[Mr Bracket]

I think its over-rated. I'd Much rather check out some Oregon trails or dunes or both!

That works too, I'd be happy to show you around!

[Autophysn]

?????Glamis is over rated?????
Dude, no way! You will never run out of dunes at glamis like you would any other place. It has the largest dune area sq mile per sq mile than any other place.

Now Dumont, if you want to climb a hill, Dumont is the place to go. You get light headed just trying to make it to the top of comp hill LOL!


As I said on Dunercentral, Great build Mike! I love this thing. You definately should make a bussiness out of these things. I would love to have one. I am a three wheeled guy thru and thru, but this bike gives me the chills! LOL!

[fatass]

Hey Mike, Deren here in Coos Bay we chatted last year about your shop and projects for the future, like the Fat X. Man I gotta tell ya dude, the work on your Fatcat 450r just blew me away. You have taken this toy making hobby to a whole new level. I can't wait to see how the jackshaft and swingarm turn out. One a these days I'd like to come up to your shop and see for myself what's goin' thru your mind. Keep up the great work, I think you're on to something.....
Laters, D

[Mr Bracket]

Hey Mike, Deren here in Coos Bay we chatted last year about your shop and projects for the future, like the Fat X. Man I gotta tell ya dude, the work on your Fatcat 450r just blew me away. You have taken this toy making hobby to a whole new level. I can't wait to see how the jackshaft and swingarm turn out. One a these days I'd like to come up to your shop and see for myself what's goin' thru your mind. Keep up the great work, I think you're on to something.....
Laters, D

Thanks Deren! Sounds good, I should come down there and let you ride this thing, then you'll be blown away!!! It turned out amazing, everything I had hoped it would be. I wanna make more! :)

Mike

[dcreel]

Congratulations on getting into Dirt Wheels. I think it may be time to start selling the conversion kits.

[Billy Golightly]

Yup, I seen it in there the other day myself. Looks great, and DirtWheels had nice things to say about it too.

[2hundredx]

some1 should scan this article!

[lndy650]

^^^^^^^X2 what month was it in?

[dcreel]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/450R002.jpg

Sorry about the quality.. I don't really know how to use my scanner.

[step child]

Congratulations for sure, you should send them an email with your web site info so they can print it. Then you will be making those kits for sure :beer ..

again awesome job on the FatCat 450

J.

[Mr Bracket]

Thanks guys! I had no idea it was in Dirt Wheels, I got an email that a post had been made on here and I read dcreel's post saying congrats! I about crapped my pants and ran to the local Safeway store at 11pm to grab a copy!! Needless to say I am pretty stoked :Bounce

I should indeed send them some contact info and perhaps some better pictures! LOL..

Thanks again
Mike

http://www.bikes4cargo.com/UltimateDuneBike.html

[Mr Bracket]

Well I made my first sale! Actually I sold the whole bike a couple weeks ago. Sold it to a great guy up in Washington.

I'm gonna take what I learned on this one and start another one after the first of the year. This one turned out great but I've got a few improvement ideas I want to test out on the next one!!!

Look for a new thread early next year!

Thanks for all the support!
Mike

[dcreel]

Congrats man.. keep us posted on your progress in the future.

[Side Wayz]

Cool bike indeed. Cant wait to see the next 1.