Toyotas major problem with there cars.

[Dirtcrasher]

inv3ctiv3 they are so JUNK!

C'mon, quit the crap. There all just opinions, leave it with that......

Share with us your choice of ideal vehicle?!

[Trimotomike]

I agree Toyota isnt junk , having some problems right now , but I wouldnt say theyre junk

[dcreel]

The 20R/22R was definitely a bulletproof motor. I had an 1980 4X4 with a 22R that had 200K miles on it. We put JB weld on a crack at the rear of the block and I ran it another 100K miles. I used to pull all of the stuck Chevy's and Ford's out of the mudhole back in the day. It was stolen from Costa Mesa, CA in 1990.
Here is a picture:


Here is the 1984 Toyota 4X4 I bought a couple of years ago. It's now an inch and a half taller in the front due to longer shackles.

[MTS]

I gota agree with dcreel here, the 18-22r's are Tough as nails and can spin 35's without a problem...Me and my buddy have put them through the mill...there is No better trail truck, bang for the buck. im not a guy to buy anything new....a yota would be on the top of the list.

[big yeller]

well yall can say toyota is junk i hate seing brand wars on forums. BUT ITS STILL NOT A AMERICAN COMPANY!!! i dont care if it was down to 2 companys that i could purchase a truck from...chevy and toyota i would pick the chevy even though i hate them. why...because my money is going back into this country supporting the american auto industry. plus the parts are easy to find and cheap and fairly easy to work on. im not going to go on a rant, ill stop now. why would you not buy american, i have yet to figure it out. i dont want to hear that sales pitch either "most reliable car in america". also is toyotas fly by wire throttle like most newer cars and trucks or does it actually have a cable.

[NINJA]

Funny YammerHammer, how the company you so adore in your forum name, is in fact the company (YAMAHA) who designs and tunes Toyota's engines. Believe me, if you buy a Toyota, you are supporting this country's economy far more than say GM or Chrysler. The reason those company's had to take bailouts (which come from your tax dollars), was because they continued to produce inferior products, waste money, and mismanage everything. If they hadn't been so greedy and constantly pulling the wool over the public's eye, and had just tried a little harder to care about making quality products, they wouldn't be in the dire straits they're in now.
Stop being ignorant and start doing research on your own, instead of slamming something you only know about because of media induced hype and paranoia.

[NINJA]

"Toyota Motor North America headquarters is located in New York City and operates at a holding company level in North America. Its manufacturing headquarters is located in Hebron, Kentucky, and is known as Toyota Motor Engineering and Manufacturing North America, or TEMA.


A Toyota dealership in Fremont, California.Toyota Canada Inc. has been in production in Canada since 1983 with an aluminium wheel plant in Delta, British Columbia which currently employs a workforce of roughly 260. Its first vehicle assembly plant, in Cambridge, Ontario since 1988, now produces Corolla compact cars, Matrix crossover vehicles and Lexus RX 350 luxury SUVs, with a workforce of 4,300 workers. Its second assembly operation in Woodstock, Ontario began manufacturing the RAV4 late in 2008.[50] In 2006, Toyota's subsidiary Hino Motors opened a heavy duty truck plant, also in Woodstock, employing 45 people and producing 2000 trucks annually.[51]

Toyota has a large presence in the United States with five major assembly plants in Huntsville, Alabama; Georgetown, Kentucky; Princeton, Indiana; San Antonio, Texas; Buffalo, West Virginia. A new plant slated to be built in Blue Springs, Mississippi has been put on hold owing to the financial crisis that erupted in late 2008. Toyota had a joint-venture operation with General Motors at New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. (NUMMI), in Fremont, California, which began in 1984 and ended in 2009.[52] It still has a joint-venture with Subaru at Subaru of Indiana Automotive, Inc. (SIA), in Lafayette, Indiana, which started in 2006. Production on a new manufacturing plant in Tupelo, Mississippi was scheduled for completion in 2010 but is currently on indefinite hold. North America is a major automobile market for Toyota. In these assembly plants, the Camry and the Tundra are manufactured, among others.

Toyota marketing, sales, and distribution in the U.S. are conducted through a separate subsidiary, Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. Toyota uses a number of slogans in its American TV commercials such as It's time to move forward, Smart way to keep moving forward, or Moving forward. It has started producing larger trucks, such as the new Tundra, to go after the large truck market in the United States. Toyota is also pushing hybrid vehicles in the US such as the Prius, Camry Hybrid, Highlander Hybrid, and various Lexus products.

Toyota has sold more hybrid vehicles in the country than any other manufacturer. Toyota is a public corporation and the company's shares are traded on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, New York Stock Exchange and the London Stock Exchange. Toyota also sponsors Club Deportivo Guadalajara."

I rest my case.

[Kintore]

If Toyota is so junk then tell me why the Camry was the best selling car last year in the US? Also you fail to mention that Toyota does not manufacture the problem part. A company based here in the USA manufactured the problem part. Toyota will pull through this and they won't even need any bailout money to do so. By you saying Toyota are junk tells any one that knows anything about cars that you know nothing about cars!

couldnt have said it better!

We have many toyotas, 4runners, camry, corona's, used them as daily drivers or field cars.

We had over 600 thous KM on our 97' 2.7 4cly 4x4 4runner. Finally the clutch was starting to go, so we bought the exact same thing in black with only 180 thous on it now.


NINJA- you are right! we have 2 massive ass plants within 45 mins from me!

I always see that bumper sticker and laugh-
"Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign!" Funny when applied to cars most of the imports are made here in North America!

[dcreel]

ALEXANDRIA, VA April 30, 2009; The American International Automobile Dealers Association today responded to a speech in which President Barack Obama asked Americans to buy "American" vehicles as part of our economic recovery.

"AIADA objects to President Obama's 'buy American' solution for the auto sector," said AIADA President Cody Lusk. "In today's globalized economy 'buying American' can mean anything from buying a Chevy Avalanche
built by Mexican workers in Silao, Mexico to buying a Toyota Camry built by Americans in Georgetown, Kentucky."

"The real issue is that every car purchased in America today is a shot in the arm for our economy, a boost for car dealers, who are the cornerstones of communities all across this country, and a win for American consumers who have the opportunity to choose the vehicles that best meet their driving needs. President Obama must recognize that protectionist policies and statements like "buy American" have no place in America's economic recovery."

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/458986.html

The Chevy Aveo is made in Korea.

[Trimotomike]

The Chevy Aveo is a p.o.s. that you couldnt pay me to drive . GM is trash and it makes me mad that Chrysler let themselves partake in the bailout that they didnt need but they took what they could get , being mostly a Mercedes owned product my Ram has Mercedes emblems on more than a couple parts .


Dcreel those are sweet trucks , i would love to find an 80-82 yota like the 1st one , they look cool and are ultimate mudders .

[hancadam]

Its amazing how much wrong info is being spewed on both sides of this argument. They both have your pros and cons. Buy what you like.

[Dammit!]

The whole buy american thing is a Joke. So many "american" cars are built on foreign soil with foreign made parts now it's ridiculous. In 2008 when I was working a Dodge lot, EVERY single Ram on our lot was made in freaking Mexico. All of them. My Ram luckily is a 2007 that was built in Louisiana (if I remember right). Fast forward to 2009 when I was working a Nissan lot. EVERY single Titan was made in Tennessee.

[hancadam]

Here is the North American Content as of 2009:
GM: 69%
Ford Motor Co.: 64%
Chrysler Corp.: 60%
Honda/Acura: 58%
Toyota/Lexus/Scion: 44%
Nissan/Infiniti: 31%
Mitsubishi: 25%
Subaru: 20%
Mercedes-Benz: 16%
Suzuki: 12%
Mazda: 11%
Volkswagen/Audi: 9%
BMW/Mini: 5%
Jaguar/Land Rover: 3%
Porsche: 3%

This is parts content, as in where the parts are made for the entire lineup for said manufacturer. Its easy to single out the one off model like the Aveo and say Chevy is made in Korea. Or say Toyota is the most America just because the Camry has the most domestic content.

But when you look at each company's entire lineup, the Domestics are by far the most "American". Also per law domestic content includes Canada, but not Mexico.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...utomakers.html

[Mosh]

We're most of the "throttle problems" in the past traced to space between the steering wheel and the seat?

Best post in this thread.

The problem usually is found to be "loose nut behind the wheel" syndrome.

I am not sure what the problem is.
I have heard the floor mats are getting pushed into the pedal acclerating the vehicle.That is no new news.That happened before on many vehicles.
I would have a hard time thinking it is a Fly by wire problem, as most systems I have seen, are a 4 circuit rendundant system.
In other words, if one circuit fails, it defualts to a limp in mode of only 20 MPH. Corvettes have been running these systems for 10 years with no issues like this.
It would take a massive control module issue, or all 4 circuits to fail at the same time with the correct voltage values to cause these accidents.

There was a state trooper with his family that just died in one of these accidents. HE is on the cell phone with 911 during the problem.
I know when people get in a panic problem, they sometimes freeze up, but why didnt he throw the car into neutral? If he had enough focus to call 911 and talk on the phone for 30 seconds, he could have thrown the car into neutral.
Put the phone down and shift the car into neutral.

Nothing ever built will be totally " people proof ".

And this is just one more instance of things being made too complicated. We drove cars for years with a traditional cable design, with very little problems.These cars dont need all this crap.
Congratulations engineers.You took a system that was controlled by a 15$ part, made it more complicated,and now has a repair cost that can reach 1000$ depending on what part fails.

[hancadam]

Nothing ever built will be totally " people proof ".

This is what people need to remember.

Ford, GM, and Honda also have NHSTA investigations going on right now as well. I am not a fan of Toyota, but I am smart enough to see whats going on here, the administration is returning a favor to the UAW. Which is sickening.