Saw it on ford-trucks.com
14 ppmillion is enough to kill,
tetra whatever turns into a one shot deal
What an easy mistake to make.
Saw it on ford-trucks.com
14 ppmillion is enough to kill,
tetra whatever turns into a one shot deal
What an easy mistake to make.
Thanks for posting this. Here is a link to a guys story:
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
Nice find riverrat.
That should cover it.
Thanks
A contestant for the Darwin awards.
ADMIRIN' BOOBS AND BLASTIN' NEWBS
indeed, but I do feel sorry for the guy, one little slip up.
This is my trike. There are many like it but this one is mine. My trike is my best friend, and it is my life. I must master it as I must master myself. My trike without me is useless. Without my trike, I am useless. I must ride my trike true. My trike and I know that what counts is not the amount of miles we ride, but the time we ride together. My trike is human in it's own ways, therefore I will learn it as my brother. I will learn it's weaknesses, it's strengths, it's parts, and it's soul.
Is it the same with the chlorinated and non-chlorinated? I tend to stick with the non-flammable non-chlorinated just to prevent fire issues.
Holy crap! He's lucky.
85 Big Red 250ES
01 Scrambler 90 (Sons')
Past Machines:
96 Yamaha V-Max 600, 86 200x, 84 200es, 82 70, 82 200, 03 Bombardier DS650, 93 Ski-doo Formula Plus, 87 Ski-doo Stratos, 83 Yamaha XT550, 82 Kawasaki KDX175. 84 Tecate, 86 Tri-Z, 91 CR250.
Holy crap! That is a mistake I could easily make! Thanks a lot for posting this Dr. Joe.
85 Tri-Zinger 60
85 ATC250SX
86 ATC250SX
87 ATC250SX
02 XR650L conversion
84 ATC 480R
wow thats scary im sure ive welded in the past with brakleened stuff but my old welder didnt have argon. good post saved me from ever using brakleen for welding projects again
ACT NOW THINK LATER!
current trikes owned
minty 86 250sx my rider
pauter flat track framed 110-123cc with custom goodies
pauter mx framed 110-123cc with aftermarket goodies
joker framed 90-108cc with front suspension
2007 artic cat DVX 400
dickson sprint framed 73 green us90 with 110 engine
I basically swim in (have been for 25 years) brake/carb cleaner, actetone, lacquer thinner, WD40, PB blaster etc. I've never worn gloves and I'm sure I've heated a part that had brake cleaner on it. The other day I was torching red off my frame and it hit the paint stripper; MAN was that a horrible smell!!!!!!!!!!!!
All our government does is distract us while they steal from us, misspend our tax $ and ruin our country
Its scary to think about all the stuff we've exposed ourselfs to out in the garage!
Stacey on the Gearz show on Speed Channel mentioned this before
Rob
Phosgene is bad stuff...I always use carb cleaner before I weld stuff.
Hello tri again
Just thought I’d add some additional info to this topic to help clear some things up for you and any others that are interested in it.
No.
AIR LEAK TESTS, BRAKE CLEANER AND PHOSGENE
If one feels it necessary to do an air leak test one suggestion is to test by gently spraying [using the long narrow nozzle] FLAMMABLE [not water base or chlorinated] brake cleaner around the intake boot at the head and carb mount while the bike is idling. If the idle goes up noticeably you have an intake air leak. It is more volatile than flammable carb cleaner and therefore detects small leaks more easily.
I still use brake cleaner but only the flammable kind [since I don’t see much point in spraying non flammable substances into a motor to check for an intake leak], just don’t spray it on ex pipes anyway and be careful NOT to inhale fumes of ANY cleaners. Flammable Carburetor cleaner may produce more harmful fumes than NON chlorinated flammable brake cleaner however I don’t know, further research is needed by someone to determine this if one wants to know.
Here’s one type of chlorinated [no tetrachloroethylene], flammable brake cleaner one can use when testing for intake leaks without the fear of creating phosgene.
http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/prod....aspx?id=05084
[QUOTE=tri again;1227182]Hi Not sure I read everything correctly but I remember a thread about using brakleen to clean stuff that will be torched or welded. I personally can't seem to live without it.Apparently it turns into phosgene gas in the presence of flame which can cause permanent lung damage with the smallest of exposure. I've heard that carb cleaner can work to check for intake leaks but not sure about that either. I read the can after I read that article and the warning is very vague.
Flame is not required to break down tetrachloroethylene to a point at which it will produce a very small percentage of phosogene as a byproduct only heat is.
Thermal decomposition of Tetrachloroethylene creates phosgene ie heat + UV + TCE => some phosgene.
“Tetrachloroethylene began to decompose near 400°C and vigorous pyrolysis occurred over 600°C. Complete decomposition was observed at 800°C. Hydrogen chloride and phosgene were detected as decomposition products, presumably because chemical reaction occurs between tetrachloroethylene and water contained in tetrachloroethylene.
Chemosphere
Volume 26, Issue 8, April 1993, Pages 1507-1512”
Tetrachloroethylene is NON flammable and is used in NON flammable CHLORINATED brake cleaner.
Flammable brake cleaners are NON chlorinated [no tetrachloroethylene].