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    27's on '85 250ES Big Red!

    The wheels for my new Vampires finally came today, so I got them all mounted up and on my Big Red! The tires are 27-12-11 Vampire TSL's that I got directly from Interco for $22 each, because they are "blems". (Can you see what's wrong with them?...Me neither!) Wheels are ITP steel's, 11x7 with a 2+5 offset. It's still slighty off on the front, enough for the side lugs to slightly rub the fork boot, but I have a plan to remedy that. (More details later...) Anyway, here are the pics!











    When I got done sadly it was dark so I didn't get to test their full potential, but the 250 engine pulled them with no problem at all!
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    You have some killer ground clearance with those tires! Looks Good!!!

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    Looks mean! Is there a specific reason to run the front tire backwards? How is your rear tire clearence at full up suspension travel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolpool View Post
    Looks mean! Is there a specific reason to run the front tire backwards? How is your rear tire clearence at full up suspension travel?
    LOL, here is my responce to the same question from a different thread:

    When running a directional tread tire on a free-wheeling application the tread should be facing backwards to help it shed mud better. It's kinda hard to explain, but here goes: The driven tires push against the ground when going foreward, so the point of the V pushes the dirt/mud toward the sides so that the tire cleans out to keep digging. When the same tire is free-wheeled, the force is opposite; ergo the ground pushes the tire. The tire is mounted backwards so that the force is still pushing against the V (the V points foreward where it touches the ground.) and the tires clean out instead of balling up.

    I see a lot of pictures where people have their front tire mounted the same direction as their rears. If you think about how the front tire actully drags, mounting the tread this way has a scooping effect. This will allow the tires to ball up much easier.
    You can read more here:http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...es-Build/page4

    I havn't taken a tape measure to it, but I stood my 250lb ass on the rear rack and jumped on it, and it bottomed out and didn't hit the tires, so that's good enough for me!
    1974 Honda ATC 70
    1985 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    1986 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    2008 Honda Rancher 420
    1983 Hustler 945-HK 6x6 - Fire Breathing 627cc V-Twin Monster
    2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 LT
    1983 GMC K10 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Liter Diesel

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    BEAST! What's the depth of the lug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85twofiftyES View Post
    BEAST! What's the depth of the lug?
    Specs say 39/32".



    Looks more like 1+3/8" to me.
    1974 Honda ATC 70
    1985 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    1986 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    2008 Honda Rancher 420
    1983 Hustler 945-HK 6x6 - Fire Breathing 627cc V-Twin Monster
    2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 LT
    1983 GMC K10 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Liter Diesel

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    Needs bigger balls to match that foot print! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tattool23 View Post
    Needs bigger balls to match that foot print! Lol
    Lol, they already smack against the hitch when the suspension compresses! Next time I'm in Spencer's I'm going to pick up a few pair of the giant chrome ones, I need a set for my truck.

    I origionally bought that set and put them under my grandad's truck without him knowing....It took him about 2 weeks to notice. Everyone got a big kick out of that.
    1974 Honda ATC 70
    1985 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    1986 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    2008 Honda Rancher 420
    1983 Hustler 945-HK 6x6 - Fire Breathing 627cc V-Twin Monster
    2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 LT
    1983 GMC K10 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Liter Diesel

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    There is no Z in Diesel!!!

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    Nice! and yeah. Your front tire is on correct. Either way however, you will be fine with traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
    LOL, here is my responce to the same question from a different thread:



    You can read more here:http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...es-Build/page4

    I havn't taken a tape measure to it, but I stood my 250lb ass on the rear rack and jumped on it, and it bottomed out and didn't hit the tires, so that's good enough for me!
    Thanks for the insight. My BR had a less agressive directional front tire on backwards when I bought it. I switched it around because I thought it was mounted that way by mistake; and folks pointed it out on here. Oh well what's done is done! Again, great looking machine!
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    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1977 ATC 90 w/83 110 motor (Fugly)
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

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    1978 Honda XL75

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    Looks great!
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    Looks like you got clearance by the hair on your sack though!! Not sure I would have gone quite that big..I would want a little more breathing room myself.

    I see rubbing issues when you are out riding..

    Still not totally with you on the tire reversal thing..be concerned about highspeed stability. I know you believe in what you're doing, but I could see that causing the machine to 'wander' a bit at higher speed as the weight/contact point changes from one side of the tread to the other.

    Just the same, nice ride. I know it will take those deep mud pits like a champ..some advice though. Take your trailer hitch off(and the balls)..I put mine thru the paces this past weekend and found the extension of my trailer hitch cause me just enough clearance issue to hang me up on some of the deep rutted trails left by the other riders. Mine is definitely gone for the next ride!!

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    I went with 25" Bear Claws..love the extreme grip!!
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    It doesn't rub anywhere on the rear fenders! I'm not sure what my shock is set on actully (I've never checked...) but I bottomed it out and it still didn't touch the tires. When you brake really hard on the front brake, it will rub the back side of the front fender a little bit.

    You don't need any kind of lift kit for 26's either....


    [EDIT]: I went and had a look, and the shock is all the way in the bottom notch! I think I will crank it up a bit...
    Last edited by Stonewall; 10-26-2011 at 12:32 PM.
    1974 Honda ATC 70
    1985 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    1986 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    2008 Honda Rancher 420
    1983 Hustler 945-HK 6x6 - Fire Breathing 627cc V-Twin Monster
    2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 LT
    1983 GMC K10 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Liter Diesel

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    Looks Nuts!! (no pun intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    Looks like you got clearance by the hair on your sack though!! Not sure I would have gone quite that big..I would want a little more breathing room myself.

    I see rubbing issues when you are out riding..

    Still not totally with you on the tire reversal thing..be concerned about highspeed stability. I know you believe in what you're doing, but I could see that causing the machine to 'wander' a bit at higher speed as the weight/contact point changes from one side of the tread to the other.

    Just the same, nice ride. I know it will take those deep mud pits like a champ..some advice though. Take your trailer hitch off(and the balls)..I put mine thru the paces this past weekend and found the extension of my trailer hitch cause me just enough clearance issue to hang me up on some of the deep rutted trails left by the other riders. Mine is definitely gone for the next ride!!
    Those 27's do look sweet!

    I agree with Doug...I would lift the rear end a couple inches, not only will it look sick, but then you can gain another inch of two of ground clearance under the skid plate.

    Also, we put our hitches up side down for better clearance in those ruts. You have to cut some of the steel away where the shock mount is to re-bolt it on, but it's not too much work for whats it's worth!
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    '86 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - disc brakes, lifted, spaced and 27" Super Swamper TSL / Vampire (1.22" lugs) all-around
    '86 Honda ATC 250sx - Mud Bugs (1.19" lugs) in the rear
    '85 Honda ATC 250sx - not currently running
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs

    previous:
    '85 Honda ATC 200s
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es

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