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    '83 185s decompression recoil fix HOOK PLATE, RUBBER... UPDATE w/ PICS

    OK, so ive torn into my recoil... pretty much have it torn down and put back...

    automatic compression release stuff:
    when installing the friction spring, the hook plate case (yellow ring) and the hook plate...
    there is a hook plate cushion or also called hook plate rubber... (manual vs. oem parts list)
    of course mine is gone

    does anyone have a picture of this hook plate rubber (part# 623499 )... or can you tell me its location
    or function... and please dont tell me it cushions the hook plate... : )

    UPDATE: SEE BELOW
    Last edited by sammiefish; 11-14-2012 at 11:50 PM.
    Thanks,
    Chris

    84 125m
    83 185s
    83 185s
    83 185s
    84 200es

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    UPDATE: PLEASE READ TO BOTTOM.... thats where my trouble is....

    Below I have CAPITALIZED the Honda OEM part names as I find them described

    first... the recoil, reassembled without the decompression ring assy called the: RING, HOOK CASE
    you see it to the R side....
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    place the SPRING, FRICTION over the PULLEY
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    leave the top tab of the SPRING, FRICTION up above the top of the PULLEY for later engagement with the RING, HOOK CASE
    It does not matter which side of the SPRING, FRICTION is up or down... either way gives the correct orientation
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    then, you see the RING, HOOK CASE with the PLATE, HOOK ; the decompression cable end is visible at its keeper
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    you need to place the PLATE HOOK groove over the tab in the RING, HOOK CASE
    you can see the yellow plastic RING, HOOK CASE tab in the groove of the PLATE, HOOK
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    when you insert the RING, HOOK CASE into the assembly you get the SPRING, FRICTION tab you pulled up earlier
    into the groove of the RING, HOOK CASE
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    now it is in ... BUT, dont try to test the decompression system (or pull the cord) until you have secured the PLATE, RECOIL GASKET
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    NOW, this is all fine and good... but Im missing a part....
    part #22, the HOOK PLATE, RUBBER

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    What is this thing, what does it do, where does it go, does anyone know ANYTHING about it???
    I think it was the decomp system that jammed me up to begin with...
    when took the recoil off the motor it wound back up fast and the handle whacked me in the head!!
    Last edited by sammiefish; 11-14-2012 at 11:59 PM. Reason: more info
    Thanks,
    Chris

    84 125m
    83 185s
    83 185s
    83 185s
    84 200es

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    I wondered what it was as well. My entire decompression system was missing in the recoil when I obught my ATC200. I bought a used recoil off of ebay with all of the parts intact, except for the rubber. Is it possible that the rubber referred to in the exploded parts list is the grommet that surrounds the cable that goes into the recoil housing? By the way, my recoil functions perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldsguru View Post
    Is it possible that the rubber referred to in the exploded parts list is the grommet that surrounds the cable that goes into the recoil housing?
    I think it is an actual part as the rendering does not look at all like the cable boot and you also observe the boot as part of the CABLE, DECOMPRESSION
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    Im getting the feeling that this part is like the old question...
    "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop"..........
    "The world may never know"

    I did, however, get 'er in... she's workin' but I think I'd like to replace the 2 parts the dawgs hit... just a little to ragged for me...
    but hey... that's an easy job for sure now...
    Last edited by sammiefish; 11-19-2012 at 09:18 PM.
    Thanks,
    Chris

    84 125m
    83 185s
    83 185s
    83 185s
    84 200es

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    The parts # 5 and 7 take quite a bit of abuse.

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    I cant speak to my spring #5 but I can say #7 and #17 are in line for replacement!!
    Thanks,
    Chris

    84 125m
    83 185s
    83 185s
    83 185s
    84 200es

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    I've been trying to find a rubber hook plate recently and it's been a pain. . Everywhere I look there no longer available.

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