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Thread: 84 ATC 200ES Big Red Progress. /Questions

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    Alright , thanks Dave sounds good to me ...appreciate it
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    I saw some pictures a while back where a guy slaved some shocks onto the forks, by that i mean he left the stock shock and spring inside but put a shock on the outside with mounting points added to the forks and the tubes. Seems like it worked well but i lost track of the guy that did it and the pictures i had in an email over the years. I always thought about trying that with mine. Maybe leave the shock and spring inside as the shock is needed to keep it all aligned, but disable the stock shock by drilling a hole in it to let out any pressure remaining? Then the added external shock and the internal spring does the work. I don't know still a work in progress in my mind. Since the original style ones aren't made any more we don't have much for options.

    They are about the size of some hood support shocks, though they don't have the correct mounting on either end, could be made to work with a little fabrication though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_D View Post
    I have a few people interested in itger parts already aswell. Don't know where to start with values

    Dave
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    Make sure you know what you have. Talk to tiger guys that aren't looking to buy anything and ask values. As much as I love this site, there are people here that will gladly take the parts for less than they are worth with no intention of letting you know what you have.

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    Haven't had time to sort parts out or decide what I want to keep and not keep shawn77 parts you mentioned are still yours if interested were currently living at father in laws and I got stuff kinda scattered everywhere I'm sorry but its kinda ill get to it when I get to it. Sounds kinda blunt but not really left with a choice :s

    We did get to go up the mountain with the family today and me and my brother last minute decided to bring the trike

    Here's the only pic I took of it today

    It still needs work but we wanted to ride it. Surprisingly quick in low range. Dident try it in high or reverse since the shifter is stuck
    Pops wheelies on demand lol

    Had fun with it. First real kinda run with it since we had it

    That's all for now

    Dave

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    Doesnt look to bad! Surprised the Hi/Lo shifter didnt loosen up with some use, will it pull up to shift or won't it move at all?
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    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    It will pull up. But to go forward and back between gears takes all my strength.
    We're at father in laws to save a down payment. The goal is to buy a house with a shop/garage so we have space to store and work on the toys.
    Right now the trikes are somewhat scattered about under tarps so there a bit of a pain to get to

    Big red fired on first pull yesterday after sitting for quite some time
    Need to see if this battery will take a charge or just replace it.

    Dave

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    Ok, it shouldnt take that much force, one question though. Are you trying to shift the sub trans with the main shifter in neutral? The best way i have found on the 200ES is with it running and in first gear, not moving just idling, then the sub trans meshes back and forth like butter.
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    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    Yea I've tryed neutral and in first to shift it
    My parts trike it shifts smooth as butter

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    Well we got to go out again yesterday. My mom took our daughter and we got to have some adult time up the mountain lol
    Not many pics or action shots. But if anyone else is like me pics are good

    It was 5 degrees out and pissing rain almost decided not to go cause of it. But decided we had a babysitter for the day we'd hit the road anyways

    Not even 10 min up the logging road and the rain turned to snow


    Stopped a little further up to wait for others






    We took the trike out to play for an hour or so. But mostly stayed in the trucks. Further up it was getting close to 2 feet deep

    All in all was a good day and was worth heading up even though it was pissing rain to start

    Dave

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    Well this thing has needed a air filter since I got it. Has one in it but I'm not happy enough with its condition
    I found this one on eBay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200775466068
    It's cheaper then ones that come up when I search "200es air filter"
    But from what I've read this should be the same

    Opinions ?

    Thanks

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    Don't use that filter... Tried it myself, didn't fit. What you need is the foam one that goes on the air filter frame that sits in the airbox.

    The UNI filter is the best in my opinion, perfect fit, has the hole in the end for the bracket to screw in. The Moose one is ok though and a little cheaper, but its hit or miss on the hole though you can carefully make it yourself.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/84-ATC-200ES...206d70&vxp=mtr

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-ATC-20...39023c&vxp=mtr
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    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    Thanks for the reply. My first choice was the uni but price seemed alright on that other
    went ahead and ordered http://www.ebay.ca/itm/290932807400

    Thanks

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    As I usually say lol an update is an update as minimal as it is.
    Plus I enjoy pics regardless what they are



    It's here came a lot quicker then I expected

    Now filter oil question should I use proper air filter oil
    Or is like 90w gear oil ok ?

    Thanks
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_D View Post
    As I usually say lol an update is an update as minimal as it is.
    Plus I enjoy pics regardless what they are



    It's here came a lot quicker then I expected

    Now filter oil question should I use proper air filter oil
    Or is like 90w gear oil ok ?

    Thanks
    Dave
    i use air filter oil or engine oil on 4 strokes, no gear oil. the newer plant based air filter oils like NO TOIL are good.


    air filter oil article.

    http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/N...-OIL-8132.aspx

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    The uni filters usually recommend 80w gear lube but i find that makes them too gooey in cold weather so to speak. I usually just soak in some good 5w-30 and squeeze out the excess and its good to go. When it comes time to clean it a bucket of hot water with some dawn dish soap and wringing it out like a sponge til clean gets the job done for me, then soak in oil and squeeze out again before installing. After letting it air dry a few hours of course.
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