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    83 200e engine runs good then stops.

    well picked me up a 200e cheap. it will run good then just stop running and i have to turn the engine over by hand, like its got a mechanical obstruction after 10 seconds or around there. i have the pullstarter off so i turn it over either by tapping the starter button then it runs for a while and stops again.


    im thinking it could be something in the timing chain, but not sure. took the engine out of the 3 wheeler now, and thought i would ask to see if this is something someone knows about in the 200e engines before i go and start taking it apart.

    also have a 200s i have a good engine in, i was wondering if itll fit in the 200e? then i can have a rider while im working on the E engine, as i want to put that back in after i fix it, it has that cool high low range and electric start!
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    heres some pictures of the motor and the 200e.

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    temp engine donor 200s

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    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    well the 200s engine fits, i got it in and most the bolts in so far! seems the exhaust is different as the big red has battery tray in the way. also the plug that comes out by the front sprocket is 3 wire plug (only 2 wires in it) and the 200s one has only 2 wire plug. so i will have to modify that as i think its the electrical charging or lighting circuit.
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    just swapped harness for temp to run this engine in big red. got her runnin! yee haw!
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    Great work!

    I have a roommate that's moving to Alaska soon, I think the place is called dead man's lake......we have been curious about how well his 200s' will perform in the extreme contitions, if there's any particular modifications that can help make them more useful and capable on a regular basis, or if he should sell these and just go straight to a 250es.

    Any insight is appreciated. Glad you got yours all fixed up, and with no one else's help apparently!

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    heck these 3 wheelers i take them almost anywhere a 4 wheeler will go. the only thing that is sketchy is the brakes dont work to good some comming down large mountains is pretty scary.
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greythorn3 View Post
    heck these 3 wheelers i take them almost anywhere a 4 wheeler will go. the only thing that is sketchy is the brakes dont work to good some comming down large mountains is pretty scary.
    Screw the brakes, hit the gas.
    Congrats on getting it going, at least I and DohcBikes care.


    Hi, my name is Timmy and I live in Alaska too and I was just wonderin if you planned on whackin me in the head with some of those sharp pointy sticks once baby fur seal huntin season opens?


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    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    Screw the brakes, hit the gas.
    Congrats on getting it going, at least I and DohcBikes care.


    Hi, my name is Timmy and I live in Alaska too and I was just wonderin if you planned on whackin me in the head with some of those sharp pointy sticks once baby fur seal huntin season opens?



    still would like to know if anyone else had a 200e engine with these symptoms, before i tear it apart... seems no one has...
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    The only suggestion that I have is: it may be related to the ignition coil. They usually fail when they warm up. Otherwise, not sure what would cause the situation that you are having.
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    Lower crank rod bearing will act like that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortline10 View Post
    Lower crank rod bearing will act like that .


    thats what i was thinking also since they are pressed on like a 2 stroke.. ive had dirt bikes like that... i just wanted to hear it from someone else also before i had to tear the case apart.. dang. and thanks.
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    well took it apart, its the big end of the rod bearing.. just as we all thougt. now i need to find a crank with a good rod on it, since i dont have the tools to split a crank.

    anyone got one laying around for a 200e?
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    i am thinking something internal will cause it to hard lock like that. maybe a chipped or broken gear inside?
    you will need to split the cases and go through it step by step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarmayer View Post
    i am thinking something internal will cause it to hard lock like that. maybe a chipped or broken gear inside?
    you will need to split the cases and go through it step by step.


    its the rod as i can make it bind on the bench, as theres a piece moving around between the rod and the crank journal itself. but that case will be split forsure anyhow to r&r a crank.
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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    got new to me crank with rod in the mail from ebay..WOO HOO. time to get it back togeather.
    1985 big red 250es working good. 1983 200e waiting for new crank and rod. 200x project looking needing everything.

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