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Thread: Mr_Gixxer's 200es build

  1. #16
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    New rims should be here tomorrow, new exhaust on Thursday and wheels should show up on Tuesday next week. Had a couple of good days and started painting up some of the parts I have. I've decided not to powder coat the rims though, not sure if I want to subject them to the heat treating processes involved in it. I've done plenty of painting in the past both for work and for myself so I am pretty confident I can do a nice job with it.

    Here is what she looks like right now, waiting for her facelift...
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    I'll snap some pictures of the parts I've finished so far tomorrow when it's daylight, man its gonna look snazzy!
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  2. #17
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    New shoes came today WOOT! Wasn't expecting the tires to come until next week so +1 Amazon!!! Now, when it decides to stop raining outside I can get these rims painted. Thought I snapped a few pictures of the parts I have finished so far but I can't seem to find it. I'll get some more photos up when I get the chance. Here's one for now...

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    Exhaust tomorrow, then paint, then reassembly.
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  3. #18
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    Got the exhaust today, Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	192909installation was a breeze. I wasn't too sure the head pipe was going to work or not, didn't seem to be in the correct shape in the pictures but fit just right. I wonder if the tailpipe will work its way off though? I think they should have included a clamp or something maybe. It did fit VERY tight though so maybe my concerns are unfounded. New gasket in, all bolts tight I gave her a fire. Adjusted the screw a little on the carb and got it running pretty smooth with only a small adjustment. Might have to play with it some more later once I get the top end work done and bigger carb.

    Here she is so far. Mounting rubber tomorrow...
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  4. #19
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    Powder coating the rims would hold up a lot longer then paint, and as far as heating of the rims 325 degrees is as hot as the rims will get and its only for about 20 to 25 minutes.

  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutcase67 View Post
    Powder coating the rims would hold up a lot longer then paint, and as far as heating of the rims 325 degrees is as hot as the rims will get and its only for about 20 to 25 minutes.
    Well I guess I can always powdercoat them later if I want to. Paint is already done now. One nice thing about paint is it's easy to touch up. Gonna look good either way, better than rusty rims that's for sure!
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  6. #21
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    anything look better than rusty rims, over the winter tore down my 200es and powder coated the frame, rims, racks everything turned out great

  7. #22
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    Once I have an actual garage to work in here on the farm I'll probably start a more extensive project like that. My main concern was to first and foremost fix the front so I didn't have to pump up the tire every day. This is what it's grown into. Some small performance mods for now, new rims and shoes and a good maintenance tune/lube up and clean up. The next step in this build will be bored/ported and carb. Probably run a 67mm piston, maybe cammed. We'll see. She needs the top end refreshed anyway so might as well give her a little extra.
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  8. #23
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    like so many of the project on this site it always starts with just a few things and then turns into a complete rebuild

  9. #24
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    Wanted to replace the ugly aftermarket grips that were on this trike so I stopped at a honda shop in state college pa and wouldn't you know they wound up finding some old OEM grips for her?!?! AWESOME!
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    Dropped off the rims and tires this morning to get mounted, hopefully I'll have her all cleaned up and back together tonight!...
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  10. #25
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    So I got her all back together. I wanted to do more but I'm getting sick of not being out wheelin'! Saw a really nice 200es sitting in the service bay at the honda shop when I picked up my wheels. Wonder who they are! Still having issues with the front tire not holding air. This is getting very frustrating. I bought some of that green slime stuff, I'm going to try that tomorrow. (The honda shop is gonna love ME next time I take wheels in to be mounted ) Worse case scenario I buy a new front tire, that has to be the problem. The rim that's on it now held air when it was on the rear. Can't find any punctures or cracks or anything, even checked the bead twice on each side and still can't figure out where it's leaking from. That tire was new when I got the trike too. IDK.

    Made some more adjustments to the carb after the sun went down because she was still popping pretty bad and bogging down when I would give it throttle. I adjusted it leaner probably a whole turn in. Does this sound about right? Seems fine now. Adjusted the idle down too. Doesn't bog down under load or backfire as much now. Didn't read the plug but I figure it's a futile endeavor until I can get the top end worked on.

    Seems a lot snappier with the 22 inch rears and exhaust. Doesn't sit much wider than before even with the 3+6 rims. Gained 3 inches with the rims but lost an inch with the tires so it's really only 2 inches wider overall.

    Pictures tomorrow, it got too late to snap any. I'll show a before and after in regards to the rear footprint as well...
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  11. #26
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    Here's some before and after pics. Still lots of work to do but I'm impatient. When I get antsy I'll be straightening the cargo racks and probably rhino line them as well as the sissy bar. Got some other NOS odds and ends coming from partzilla like taillight cover, fuel cap etc too. Didn't have a chance to scrub her down real well either but here goes...

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  12. #27
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    Ok. I think I got the front tire fixed up now.

    New problem. BIG problem. Took the es down the road to see how much the slime throws off the balance. Well, the front end wobbles worse than yer old aunt Bertha's REAR end in a 1960's belt wobble machine.

    Think the slime did it?

    Nope!

    Looked down at the rears and they are all OVER the place. Checked the lug nuts, tight. Jacked the rear end up and ran the rears in 2nd gear and sure nuff wobbling all over the place. Took the wheels off and notice that the holes may be slightly too big for the 8mm-1.25 studs and aren't centering correctly with the flat lug nuts.

    My question.

    What do I do now? I can't seem to find any 8-1.25 tapered lug nuts to save my life! Any other options?

    I can't ride again...
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  13. #28
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    Soooo...it seems I may have overlooked something. The hub rings. Problem is they do not fit inside the new rims at least on the outside, I think they are extremely tight on the inside, I will have to check again. What in the h3ll do I do? This is the reason they aren't centering on the hubs isn't it.
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  14. #29
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    Had a big setback in the 200es project. Some of you may have seen my other thread about it. The new rims I installed immediately showed big problems for me. These rims in fact do not fit the 200es perfectly and the center hole measures 3.5" and doesn't mount onto the stock hubs like they should. They come in contact with the four raised areas on the hub surface and I think this is the root of the problem. The very noticeable issue is a severe wobble the rears have when mounted on the stock hubs. Not cool. Thought I was done for but with the help of DohcBikes I think I might have found a solution. The new rims have a dual bolt pattern, 4/150 and 4/130. 200s hubs have the same axle splines as the 200es but have a 4/130 bolt pattern and the raised surfaces on these hubs measure 3-3/8" across. Perfection!!!

    Just going on a hunch here that this will fix the wobble, cross your fingers! New hubs are on their way!

    Anyone else looking at adding these rims to their 200es beware!!! You probably will have the same issues!
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  15. #30
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    Old 24 spline 4/150 bolt pattern 200es hubs are off. Waiting for the 24 spline 4/130 bolt pattern 200s hubs to arrive.
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    In case anyone was wondering how the new 23x11x9 Kenda Klaw tires compare to the old 25x12x9 Wooly Booger tires, here's a side by side mounted on 9x9 rims with 3 pounds of air...
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